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The Making of a Feminist

 
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When I was a girl, my father cheated on my mother although she waited on him hand and foot.

When I was 16 my Father-in-law left my Mother-in-law after 39 years of marriage. He had never allowed her to work or drive. He had married her at age 13. So, at 52 she can't drive and has no job experience. She, also, waited on him hand and foot.

So, I decided to have children on my own.

I make enough to support them and I see NO reason to ever date again.

Men take, they do not give much, if anything, in return.

I see no reason besides sex to ever date again and I don't think it is worth the trouble.

I love sex, but there is too much drama with men these days.

I guess you would consider me a feminist although I never really set out to be one.

Men are very much to blame for feminism's success.
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We must not let our rulers load us with perpetual debt. We must make our election between economy and liberty or profusion and servitude. If we run into such debt, as that we must be taxed in our meat and in our drink, in our necessaries and our comforts, in our labors and our amusements, for our calling and our creeds... [we will] have no time to think, no means of calling our miss-managers to account but be glad to obtain subsistence by hiring ourselves to rivet their chains on the necks of our fellow-sufferers... And this is the tendency of all human governments. A departure from principle in one instance becomes a precedent for [another ]... till the bulk of society is reduced to be mere automatons of misery... And the fore-horse of this frightful team is public debt. Taxation follows that, and in its train wretchedness and oppression. - Thomas Jefferson


AND NOW WE ARE BEING BOMBARDED WITH MESSAGES THAT OSAMA BIN LADIN IS PLANNING TO ATTACK THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA. AND I'M TELLING YOU, BE PREPARED FOR A MAJOR ATTACK. BUT IT WON'T BE OSAMA BIN LADEN, IT WILL BE THOSE BEHIND THE NWO. IT IS VERY LIKELY THAT THEY WILL STAGE A TERRORIST ATTACK AND IT IS GOING TO BE BID ENOUGH THAT MARTIAL LAW COULD BE DECLARED. - BILL COOPER 06/28/2001 (3 MONTHS BEFORE 9/11)
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I don't see blaming men for allowing yourself to be rendered incapable of living a full life.

Your Mother in Law should have gotten her license anyway.

But yes, being single is grand.

I wouldn't blame all of the troubles on the men though, they are what they are and don't think like women.

That's why we have to make sure we take care of things our selves and then SHARE a life with them, not hand it over completely.
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I don't see blaming men for allowing yourself to be rendered incapable of living a full life.

Your Mother in Law should have gotten her license anyway.

But yes, being single is grand.

I wouldn't blame all of the troubles on the men though, they are what they are and don't think like women.

That's why we have to make sure we take care of things our selves and then SHARE a life with them, not hand it over completely.
 Quoting: Mia

They seem to think we take them to raise.

My point is that these women did everything that the people that are against feminism think a woman should do and were SCREWED by it.

Why would anyone want to follow their example?
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We must not let our rulers load us with perpetual debt. We must make our election between economy and liberty or profusion and servitude. If we run into such debt, as that we must be taxed in our meat and in our drink, in our necessaries and our comforts, in our labors and our amusements, for our calling and our creeds... [we will] have no time to think, no means of calling our miss-managers to account but be glad to obtain subsistence by hiring ourselves to rivet their chains on the necks of our fellow-sufferers... And this is the tendency of all human governments. A departure from principle in one instance becomes a precedent for [another ]... till the bulk of society is reduced to be mere automatons of misery... And the fore-horse of this frightful team is public debt. Taxation follows that, and in its train wretchedness and oppression. - Thomas Jefferson


AND NOW WE ARE BEING BOMBARDED WITH MESSAGES THAT OSAMA BIN LADIN IS PLANNING TO ATTACK THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA. AND I'M TELLING YOU, BE PREPARED FOR A MAJOR ATTACK. BUT IT WON'T BE OSAMA BIN LADEN, IT WILL BE THOSE BEHIND THE NWO. IT IS VERY LIKELY THAT THEY WILL STAGE A TERRORIST ATTACK AND IT IS GOING TO BE BID ENOUGH THAT MARTIAL LAW COULD BE DECLARED. - BILL COOPER 06/28/2001 (3 MONTHS BEFORE 9/11)
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I don't see blaming men for allowing yourself to be rendered incapable of living a full life.

Your Mother in Law should have gotten her license anyway.

But yes, being single is grand.

I wouldn't blame all of the troubles on the men though, they are what they are and don't think like women.

That's why we have to make sure we take care of things our selves and then SHARE a life with them, not hand it over completely.

They seem to think we take them to raise.

My point is that these women did everything that the people that are against feminism think a woman should do and were SCREWED by it.

Why would anyone want to follow their example?
 Quoting: goodgirl

Agreed.
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I don't see blaming men for allowing yourself to be rendered incapable of living a full life.

Your Mother in Law should have gotten her license anyway.

But yes, being single is grand.

I wouldn't blame all of the troubles on the men though, they are what they are and don't think like women.

That's why we have to make sure we take care of things our selves and then SHARE a life with them, not hand it over completely.

They seem to think we take them to raise.

My point is that these women did everything that the people that are against feminism think a woman should do and were SCREWED by it.

Why would anyone want to follow their example?
 Quoting: goodgirl



I know a few women like that. They think that's how they will keep their man. Then they get so annoying to the man, he cheats or leaves.
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I don't see blaming men for allowing yourself to be rendered incapable of living a full life.

Your Mother in Law should have gotten her license anyway.

But yes, being single is grand.

I wouldn't blame all of the troubles on the men though, they are what they are and don't think like women.

That's why we have to make sure we take care of things our selves and then SHARE a life with them, not hand it over completely.

They seem to think we take them to raise.

My point is that these women did everything that the people that are against feminism think a woman should do and were SCREWED by it.

Why would anyone want to follow their example?



I know a few women like that. They think that's how they will keep their man. Then they get so annoying to the man, he cheats or leaves.
 Quoting: Mia

So, she was annoying him for 39 years? Give me a break, he married a younger woman just like her.
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We must not let our rulers load us with perpetual debt. We must make our election between economy and liberty or profusion and servitude. If we run into such debt, as that we must be taxed in our meat and in our drink, in our necessaries and our comforts, in our labors and our amusements, for our calling and our creeds... [we will] have no time to think, no means of calling our miss-managers to account but be glad to obtain subsistence by hiring ourselves to rivet their chains on the necks of our fellow-sufferers... And this is the tendency of all human governments. A departure from principle in one instance becomes a precedent for [another ]... till the bulk of society is reduced to be mere automatons of misery... And the fore-horse of this frightful team is public debt. Taxation follows that, and in its train wretchedness and oppression. - Thomas Jefferson


AND NOW WE ARE BEING BOMBARDED WITH MESSAGES THAT OSAMA BIN LADIN IS PLANNING TO ATTACK THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA. AND I'M TELLING YOU, BE PREPARED FOR A MAJOR ATTACK. BUT IT WON'T BE OSAMA BIN LADEN, IT WILL BE THOSE BEHIND THE NWO. IT IS VERY LIKELY THAT THEY WILL STAGE A TERRORIST ATTACK AND IT IS GOING TO BE BID ENOUGH THAT MARTIAL LAW COULD BE DECLARED. - BILL COOPER 06/28/2001 (3 MONTHS BEFORE 9/11)
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Your mother was married at 13? And she was your mother in law when she was divorced when you were 16?

Just my opinion, but NO ONE should get married that young. Sounds like some old farts marrying a young girl so they can "raise her" to suit themselves.
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Your mother was married at 13? And she was your mother in law when she was divorced when you were 16?

Just my opinion, but NO ONE should get married that young. Sounds like some old farts marrying a young girl so they can "raise her" to suit themselves.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1199933

No, my mother in law was married at 13. Back then it was the norm. I married at 16, yes, too young but I had to get out of my home situation and they wouldn't let me move out on my own.
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We must not let our rulers load us with perpetual debt. We must make our election between economy and liberty or profusion and servitude. If we run into such debt, as that we must be taxed in our meat and in our drink, in our necessaries and our comforts, in our labors and our amusements, for our calling and our creeds... [we will] have no time to think, no means of calling our miss-managers to account but be glad to obtain subsistence by hiring ourselves to rivet their chains on the necks of our fellow-sufferers... And this is the tendency of all human governments. A departure from principle in one instance becomes a precedent for [another ]... till the bulk of society is reduced to be mere automatons of misery... And the fore-horse of this frightful team is public debt. Taxation follows that, and in its train wretchedness and oppression. - Thomas Jefferson


AND NOW WE ARE BEING BOMBARDED WITH MESSAGES THAT OSAMA BIN LADIN IS PLANNING TO ATTACK THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA. AND I'M TELLING YOU, BE PREPARED FOR A MAJOR ATTACK. BUT IT WON'T BE OSAMA BIN LADEN, IT WILL BE THOSE BEHIND THE NWO. IT IS VERY LIKELY THAT THEY WILL STAGE A TERRORIST ATTACK AND IT IS GOING TO BE BID ENOUGH THAT MARTIAL LAW COULD BE DECLARED. - BILL COOPER 06/28/2001 (3 MONTHS BEFORE 9/11)
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I don't see blaming men for allowing yourself to be rendered incapable of living a full life.

Your Mother in Law should have gotten her license anyway.

But yes, being single is grand.

I wouldn't blame all of the troubles on the men though, they are what they are and don't think like women.

That's why we have to make sure we take care of things our selves and then SHARE a life with them, not hand it over completely.

They seem to think we take them to raise.

My point is that these women did everything that the people that are against feminism think a woman should do and were SCREWED by it.

Why would anyone want to follow their example?



I know a few women like that. They think that's how they will keep their man. Then they get so annoying to the man, he cheats or leaves.
 Quoting: Mia

So, you agree, women should have jobs?
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We must not let our rulers load us with perpetual debt. We must make our election between economy and liberty or profusion and servitude. If we run into such debt, as that we must be taxed in our meat and in our drink, in our necessaries and our comforts, in our labors and our amusements, for our calling and our creeds... [we will] have no time to think, no means of calling our miss-managers to account but be glad to obtain subsistence by hiring ourselves to rivet their chains on the necks of our fellow-sufferers... And this is the tendency of all human governments. A departure from principle in one instance becomes a precedent for [another ]... till the bulk of society is reduced to be mere automatons of misery... And the fore-horse of this frightful team is public debt. Taxation follows that, and in its train wretchedness and oppression. - Thomas Jefferson


AND NOW WE ARE BEING BOMBARDED WITH MESSAGES THAT OSAMA BIN LADIN IS PLANNING TO ATTACK THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA. AND I'M TELLING YOU, BE PREPARED FOR A MAJOR ATTACK. BUT IT WON'T BE OSAMA BIN LADEN, IT WILL BE THOSE BEHIND THE NWO. IT IS VERY LIKELY THAT THEY WILL STAGE A TERRORIST ATTACK AND IT IS GOING TO BE BID ENOUGH THAT MARTIAL LAW COULD BE DECLARED. - BILL COOPER 06/28/2001 (3 MONTHS BEFORE 9/11)
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Your mother was married at 13? And she was your mother in law when she was divorced when you were 16?

Just my opinion, but NO ONE should get married that young. Sounds like some old farts marrying a young girl so they can "raise her" to suit themselves.

No, my mother in law was married at 13. Back then it was the norm. I married at 16, yes, too young but I had to get out of my home situation and they wouldn't let me move out on my own.
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Sorry. I meant mother in law.
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Your mother was married at 13? And she was your mother in law when she was divorced when you were 16?

Just my opinion, but NO ONE should get married that young. Sounds like some old farts marrying a young girl so they can "raise her" to suit themselves.

No, my mother in law was married at 13. Back then it was the norm. I married at 16, yes, too young but I had to get out of my home situation and they wouldn't let me move out on my own.



Sorry. I meant mother in law.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1199933

You are right, they raised them to suit themselves and then dump them.

All I know is, I could see with my own eyes that men are not reliable enough to quit my job and let them be the provider. Too many times I see this held over the woman's head later.
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We must not let our rulers load us with perpetual debt. We must make our election between economy and liberty or profusion and servitude. If we run into such debt, as that we must be taxed in our meat and in our drink, in our necessaries and our comforts, in our labors and our amusements, for our calling and our creeds... [we will] have no time to think, no means of calling our miss-managers to account but be glad to obtain subsistence by hiring ourselves to rivet their chains on the necks of our fellow-sufferers... And this is the tendency of all human governments. A departure from principle in one instance becomes a precedent for [another ]... till the bulk of society is reduced to be mere automatons of misery... And the fore-horse of this frightful team is public debt. Taxation follows that, and in its train wretchedness and oppression. - Thomas Jefferson


AND NOW WE ARE BEING BOMBARDED WITH MESSAGES THAT OSAMA BIN LADIN IS PLANNING TO ATTACK THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA. AND I'M TELLING YOU, BE PREPARED FOR A MAJOR ATTACK. BUT IT WON'T BE OSAMA BIN LADEN, IT WILL BE THOSE BEHIND THE NWO. IT IS VERY LIKELY THAT THEY WILL STAGE A TERRORIST ATTACK AND IT IS GOING TO BE BID ENOUGH THAT MARTIAL LAW COULD BE DECLARED. - BILL COOPER 06/28/2001 (3 MONTHS BEFORE 9/11)
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I don't see blaming men for allowing yourself to be rendered incapable of living a full life.

Your Mother in Law should have gotten her license anyway.

But yes, being single is grand.

I wouldn't blame all of the troubles on the men though, they are what they are and don't think like women.

That's why we have to make sure we take care of things our selves and then SHARE a life with them, not hand it over completely.
 Quoting: Mia

Women can't rely on men to support them. Therefore, they have jobs. Feminism is necessary to our survival.
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i don't see how leaving home at 16 to get married and have kids qualifies as being a feminist....

i appreciate your desire to be self sufficient, but may i ask...are you still with the father?
if not are you getting child support?
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i don't see how leaving home at 16 to get married and have kids qualifies as being a feminist....

i appreciate your desire to be self sufficient, but may i ask...are you still with the father?
if not are you getting child support?
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Surprise, surprise, that marriage didn't work out and only lasted four years.

I waited until I was 33 to have children on my own and no I'm not with the father and do not collect child support.
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We must not let our rulers load us with perpetual debt. We must make our election between economy and liberty or profusion and servitude. If we run into such debt, as that we must be taxed in our meat and in our drink, in our necessaries and our comforts, in our labors and our amusements, for our calling and our creeds... [we will] have no time to think, no means of calling our miss-managers to account but be glad to obtain subsistence by hiring ourselves to rivet their chains on the necks of our fellow-sufferers... And this is the tendency of all human governments. A departure from principle in one instance becomes a precedent for [another ]... till the bulk of society is reduced to be mere automatons of misery... And the fore-horse of this frightful team is public debt. Taxation follows that, and in its train wretchedness and oppression. - Thomas Jefferson


AND NOW WE ARE BEING BOMBARDED WITH MESSAGES THAT OSAMA BIN LADIN IS PLANNING TO ATTACK THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA. AND I'M TELLING YOU, BE PREPARED FOR A MAJOR ATTACK. BUT IT WON'T BE OSAMA BIN LADEN, IT WILL BE THOSE BEHIND THE NWO. IT IS VERY LIKELY THAT THEY WILL STAGE A TERRORIST ATTACK AND IT IS GOING TO BE BID ENOUGH THAT MARTIAL LAW COULD BE DECLARED. - BILL COOPER 06/28/2001 (3 MONTHS BEFORE 9/11)
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Men take, they do not give much, if anything, in return.
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Generalizing isn't good. If You think so You maybe give away your chance to be lucky with a good man.

My POV is that 90 % of men are rude assholes and 90 % of women are materialistic whores.

If you count yourself to the 10 % of women who are ok then you should seek for one of the 10 % men who are ok. Don't expect such men to be wealthy (in this world only assholes can be rich) or extraordinary good-looking (what makes a man narcissistic).
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Men take, they do not give much, if anything, in return.


Generalizing isn't good. If You think so You maybe give away your chance to be lucky with a good man.

My POV is that 90 % of men are rude assholes and 90 % of women are materialistic whores.

If you count yourself to the 10 % of women who are ok then you should seek for one of the 10 % men who are ok. Don't expect such men to be wealthy (in this world only assholes can be rich) or extraordinary good-looking (what makes a man narcissistic).
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1206273

Don't think I would have the patience to date through the 90% to get to the 10%.

I'm not materialistic at all, I would have settled for a man that didn't work as long as he contributed somehow, i.e. housework, etc.
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We must not let our rulers load us with perpetual debt. We must make our election between economy and liberty or profusion and servitude. If we run into such debt, as that we must be taxed in our meat and in our drink, in our necessaries and our comforts, in our labors and our amusements, for our calling and our creeds... [we will] have no time to think, no means of calling our miss-managers to account but be glad to obtain subsistence by hiring ourselves to rivet their chains on the necks of our fellow-sufferers... And this is the tendency of all human governments. A departure from principle in one instance becomes a precedent for [another ]... till the bulk of society is reduced to be mere automatons of misery... And the fore-horse of this frightful team is public debt. Taxation follows that, and in its train wretchedness and oppression. - Thomas Jefferson


AND NOW WE ARE BEING BOMBARDED WITH MESSAGES THAT OSAMA BIN LADIN IS PLANNING TO ATTACK THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA. AND I'M TELLING YOU, BE PREPARED FOR A MAJOR ATTACK. BUT IT WON'T BE OSAMA BIN LADEN, IT WILL BE THOSE BEHIND THE NWO. IT IS VERY LIKELY THAT THEY WILL STAGE A TERRORIST ATTACK AND IT IS GOING TO BE BID ENOUGH THAT MARTIAL LAW COULD BE DECLARED. - BILL COOPER 06/28/2001 (3 MONTHS BEFORE 9/11)
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i don't see how leaving home at 16 to get married and have kids qualifies as being a feminist....

i appreciate your desire to be self sufficient, but may i ask...are you still with the father?
if not are you getting child support?

Surprise, surprise, that marriage didn't work out and only lasted four years.

I waited until I was 33 to have children on my own and no I'm not with the father and do not collect child support.
 Quoting: goodgirl



ok, had me confused for a second there..

i hope that you will not judge all of the male species by what you went through as a child.. no one should be have to be alone to feel validated as a human being.
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i don't see how leaving home at 16 to get married and have kids qualifies as being a feminist....

i appreciate your desire to be self sufficient, but may i ask...are you still with the father?
if not are you getting child support?

Surprise, surprise, that marriage didn't work out and only lasted four years.

I waited until I was 33 to have children on my own and no I'm not with the father and do not collect child support.



ok, had me confused for a second there..

i hope that you will not judge all of the male species by what you went through as a child.. no one should be have to be alone to feel validated as a human being.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1169999

I was married twice and the happiest day of my life besides the days I had my children on, were the day those men finally left.

There is no greater threat to a woman than a man that claims to love her.
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We must not let our rulers load us with perpetual debt. We must make our election between economy and liberty or profusion and servitude. If we run into such debt, as that we must be taxed in our meat and in our drink, in our necessaries and our comforts, in our labors and our amusements, for our calling and our creeds... [we will] have no time to think, no means of calling our miss-managers to account but be glad to obtain subsistence by hiring ourselves to rivet their chains on the necks of our fellow-sufferers... And this is the tendency of all human governments. A departure from principle in one instance becomes a precedent for [another ]... till the bulk of society is reduced to be mere automatons of misery... And the fore-horse of this frightful team is public debt. Taxation follows that, and in its train wretchedness and oppression. - Thomas Jefferson


AND NOW WE ARE BEING BOMBARDED WITH MESSAGES THAT OSAMA BIN LADIN IS PLANNING TO ATTACK THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA. AND I'M TELLING YOU, BE PREPARED FOR A MAJOR ATTACK. BUT IT WON'T BE OSAMA BIN LADEN, IT WILL BE THOSE BEHIND THE NWO. IT IS VERY LIKELY THAT THEY WILL STAGE A TERRORIST ATTACK AND IT IS GOING TO BE BID ENOUGH THAT MARTIAL LAW COULD BE DECLARED. - BILL COOPER 06/28/2001 (3 MONTHS BEFORE 9/11)
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Don't think I would have the patience to date through the 90% to get to the 10%.
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Dating? Forget that. You can't find a good man with dating.

Look around in your social environment and learn to have the right glance to identify those men who are nice and can make you happy. You can't enforce that by dating, you have to wait until fate presents you one and then you must grab him.
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i don't see how leaving home at 16 to get married and have kids qualifies as being a feminist....

i appreciate your desire to be self sufficient, but may i ask...are you still with the father?
if not are you getting child support?

Surprise, surprise, that marriage didn't work out and only lasted four years.

I waited until I was 33 to have children on my own and no I'm not with the father and do not collect child support.



ok, had me confused for a second there..

i hope that you will not judge all of the male species by what you went through as a child.. no one should be have to be alone to feel validated as a human being.

I was married twice and the happiest day of my life besides the days I had my children on, were the day those men finally left.

There is no greater threat to a woman than a man that claims to love her.
 Quoting: goodgirl



ouch!!! have fun with the cats......
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Don't think I would have the patience to date through the 90% to get to the 10%.


Dating? Forget that. You can't find a good man with dating.

Look around in your social environment and learn to have the right glance to identify those men who are nice and can make you happy. You can't enforce that by dating, you have to wait until fate presents you one and then you must grab him.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1206273

I have two children, there is no "social environment". I go to work and home and I wouldn't be with someone I worked with.

I'm happy as I am, men are too much work. I have everything I need and want (except the sex of course).
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We must not let our rulers load us with perpetual debt. We must make our election between economy and liberty or profusion and servitude. If we run into such debt, as that we must be taxed in our meat and in our drink, in our necessaries and our comforts, in our labors and our amusements, for our calling and our creeds... [we will] have no time to think, no means of calling our miss-managers to account but be glad to obtain subsistence by hiring ourselves to rivet their chains on the necks of our fellow-sufferers... And this is the tendency of all human governments. A departure from principle in one instance becomes a precedent for [another ]... till the bulk of society is reduced to be mere automatons of misery... And the fore-horse of this frightful team is public debt. Taxation follows that, and in its train wretchedness and oppression. - Thomas Jefferson


AND NOW WE ARE BEING BOMBARDED WITH MESSAGES THAT OSAMA BIN LADIN IS PLANNING TO ATTACK THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA. AND I'M TELLING YOU, BE PREPARED FOR A MAJOR ATTACK. BUT IT WON'T BE OSAMA BIN LADEN, IT WILL BE THOSE BEHIND THE NWO. IT IS VERY LIKELY THAT THEY WILL STAGE A TERRORIST ATTACK AND IT IS GOING TO BE BID ENOUGH THAT MARTIAL LAW COULD BE DECLARED. - BILL COOPER 06/28/2001 (3 MONTHS BEFORE 9/11)
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i don't see how leaving home at 16 to get married and have kids qualifies as being a feminist....

i appreciate your desire to be self sufficient, but may i ask...are you still with the father?
if not are you getting child support?

Surprise, surprise, that marriage didn't work out and only lasted four years.

I waited until I was 33 to have children on my own and no I'm not with the father and do not collect child support.



ok, had me confused for a second there..

i hope that you will not judge all of the male species by what you went through as a child.. no one should be have to be alone to feel validated as a human being.

I was married twice and the happiest day of my life besides the days I had my children on, were the day those men finally left.

There is no greater threat to a woman than a man that claims to love her.



ouch!!! have fun with the cats......
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We must not let our rulers load us with perpetual debt. We must make our election between economy and liberty or profusion and servitude. If we run into such debt, as that we must be taxed in our meat and in our drink, in our necessaries and our comforts, in our labors and our amusements, for our calling and our creeds... [we will] have no time to think, no means of calling our miss-managers to account but be glad to obtain subsistence by hiring ourselves to rivet their chains on the necks of our fellow-sufferers... And this is the tendency of all human governments. A departure from principle in one instance becomes a precedent for [another ]... till the bulk of society is reduced to be mere automatons of misery... And the fore-horse of this frightful team is public debt. Taxation follows that, and in its train wretchedness and oppression. - Thomas Jefferson


AND NOW WE ARE BEING BOMBARDED WITH MESSAGES THAT OSAMA BIN LADIN IS PLANNING TO ATTACK THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA. AND I'M TELLING YOU, BE PREPARED FOR A MAJOR ATTACK. BUT IT WON'T BE OSAMA BIN LADEN, IT WILL BE THOSE BEHIND THE NWO. IT IS VERY LIKELY THAT THEY WILL STAGE A TERRORIST ATTACK AND IT IS GOING TO BE BID ENOUGH THAT MARTIAL LAW COULD BE DECLARED. - BILL COOPER 06/28/2001 (3 MONTHS BEFORE 9/11)
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i don't see how leaving home at 16 to get married and have kids qualifies as being a feminist....

i appreciate your desire to be self sufficient, but may i ask...are you still with the father?
if not are you getting child support?

Surprise, surprise, that marriage didn't work out and only lasted four years.

I waited until I was 33 to have children on my own and no I'm not with the father and do not collect child support.



ok, had me confused for a second there..

i hope that you will not judge all of the male species by what you went through as a child.. no one should be have to be alone to feel validated as a human being.

I was married twice and the happiest day of my life besides the days I had my children on, were the day those men finally left.

There is no greater threat to a woman than a man that claims to love her.



ouch!!! have fun with the cats......
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Sorry if I seem hostile. My ex-brother in law hit on me today and I am completely disgusted with men at the moment.
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We must not let our rulers load us with perpetual debt. We must make our election between economy and liberty or profusion and servitude. If we run into such debt, as that we must be taxed in our meat and in our drink, in our necessaries and our comforts, in our labors and our amusements, for our calling and our creeds... [we will] have no time to think, no means of calling our miss-managers to account but be glad to obtain subsistence by hiring ourselves to rivet their chains on the necks of our fellow-sufferers... And this is the tendency of all human governments. A departure from principle in one instance becomes a precedent for [another ]... till the bulk of society is reduced to be mere automatons of misery... And the fore-horse of this frightful team is public debt. Taxation follows that, and in its train wretchedness and oppression. - Thomas Jefferson


AND NOW WE ARE BEING BOMBARDED WITH MESSAGES THAT OSAMA BIN LADIN IS PLANNING TO ATTACK THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA. AND I'M TELLING YOU, BE PREPARED FOR A MAJOR ATTACK. BUT IT WON'T BE OSAMA BIN LADEN, IT WILL BE THOSE BEHIND THE NWO. IT IS VERY LIKELY THAT THEY WILL STAGE A TERRORIST ATTACK AND IT IS GOING TO BE BID ENOUGH THAT MARTIAL LAW COULD BE DECLARED. - BILL COOPER 06/28/2001 (3 MONTHS BEFORE 9/11)
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... All I know is, I could see with my own eyes that men are not reliable enough to quit my job and let them be the provider. Too many times I see this held over the woman's head later.
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Fine, don't let them be the provider. Maybe that's a bit unfair to them, making them provide all the money. Why not share in that burden?
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... All I know is, I could see with my own eyes that men are not reliable enough to quit my job and let them be the provider. Too many times I see this held over the woman's head later.

Fine, don't let them be the provider. Maybe that's a bit unfair to them, making them provide all the money. Why not share in that burden?
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I believe in sharing the burden. People on this site are always bashing feminists because they took jobs instead of staying home with the kids.

We don't have a choice in the matter.
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We must not let our rulers load us with perpetual debt. We must make our election between economy and liberty or profusion and servitude. If we run into such debt, as that we must be taxed in our meat and in our drink, in our necessaries and our comforts, in our labors and our amusements, for our calling and our creeds... [we will] have no time to think, no means of calling our miss-managers to account but be glad to obtain subsistence by hiring ourselves to rivet their chains on the necks of our fellow-sufferers... And this is the tendency of all human governments. A departure from principle in one instance becomes a precedent for [another ]... till the bulk of society is reduced to be mere automatons of misery... And the fore-horse of this frightful team is public debt. Taxation follows that, and in its train wretchedness and oppression. - Thomas Jefferson


AND NOW WE ARE BEING BOMBARDED WITH MESSAGES THAT OSAMA BIN LADIN IS PLANNING TO ATTACK THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA. AND I'M TELLING YOU, BE PREPARED FOR A MAJOR ATTACK. BUT IT WON'T BE OSAMA BIN LADEN, IT WILL BE THOSE BEHIND THE NWO. IT IS VERY LIKELY THAT THEY WILL STAGE A TERRORIST ATTACK AND IT IS GOING TO BE BID ENOUGH THAT MARTIAL LAW COULD BE DECLARED. - BILL COOPER 06/28/2001 (3 MONTHS BEFORE 9/11)
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Feminists are desperately anxious to prove that women are as strong and as capable as men. Clearly they are nagged by a fear that women may not be as strong and as capable as men.

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Feminists are desperately anxious to prove that women are as strong and as capable as men. Clearly they are nagged by a fear that women may not be as strong and as capable as men.

flowas
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I don't know one man as strong or as capable as I am. I do not have to wonder.

I am a dedicated mother and provider.
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We must not let our rulers load us with perpetual debt. We must make our election between economy and liberty or profusion and servitude. If we run into such debt, as that we must be taxed in our meat and in our drink, in our necessaries and our comforts, in our labors and our amusements, for our calling and our creeds... [we will] have no time to think, no means of calling our miss-managers to account but be glad to obtain subsistence by hiring ourselves to rivet their chains on the necks of our fellow-sufferers... And this is the tendency of all human governments. A departure from principle in one instance becomes a precedent for [another ]... till the bulk of society is reduced to be mere automatons of misery... And the fore-horse of this frightful team is public debt. Taxation follows that, and in its train wretchedness and oppression. - Thomas Jefferson


AND NOW WE ARE BEING BOMBARDED WITH MESSAGES THAT OSAMA BIN LADIN IS PLANNING TO ATTACK THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA. AND I'M TELLING YOU, BE PREPARED FOR A MAJOR ATTACK. BUT IT WON'T BE OSAMA BIN LADEN, IT WILL BE THOSE BEHIND THE NWO. IT IS VERY LIKELY THAT THEY WILL STAGE A TERRORIST ATTACK AND IT IS GOING TO BE BID ENOUGH THAT MARTIAL LAW COULD BE DECLARED. - BILL COOPER 06/28/2001 (3 MONTHS BEFORE 9/11)
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Sorry if I seem hostile. My ex-brother in law hit on me today and I am completely disgusted with men at the moment.
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We are always the sum of our experiences.
I have to says i feel the same about women.

I think their is no easy solutions. The solution is in mutual understanding. History always repeats. When we reach an extreme it bounce back to the other. That is just the nature of humans i guest. So be careful with that axe.
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I don't see blaming men for allowing yourself to be rendered incapable of living a full life.

Your Mother in Law should have gotten her license anyway.

But yes, being single is grand.

I wouldn't blame all of the troubles on the men though, they are what they are and don't think like women.

That's why we have to make sure we take care of things our selves and then SHARE a life with them, not hand it over completely.

They seem to think we take them to raise.

My point is that these women did everything that the people that are against feminism think a woman should do and were SCREWED by it.

Why would anyone want to follow their example?
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You go girl. You are on the right track! Merry Christmas.
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I have two children, there is no "social environment". I go to work and home and I wouldn't be with someone I worked with.
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Don't you see the problem? Humans are not made to be without social environment, that makes them sad and sick. btw: most relationships are starting at work. You could at least check your neighbours or the men you see while shopping.


I'm happy as I am, men are too much work. I have everything I need and want (except the sex of course).
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If you are happy then why do you write angry threads here?
One day your children will leave you. Will you then still be happy?
It's also easy to say "men are too much work". Same could be said about you. To have a good relationship is naturaly hard work, for both, the woman and the man. Do you think a good man should be a kind of low-maintenance-pet? This is how you sound for me.
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I don't see blaming men for allowing yourself to be rendered incapable of living a full life.

Your Mother in Law should have gotten her license anyway.

But yes, being single is grand.

I wouldn't blame all of the troubles on the men though, they are what they are and don't think like women.

That's why we have to make sure we take care of things our selves and then SHARE a life with them, not hand it over completely.

They seem to think we take them to raise.

My point is that these women did everything that the people that are against feminism think a woman should do and were SCREWED by it.

Why would anyone want to follow their example?


You go girl. You are on the right track! Merry Christmas.
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Merry Christmas!
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We must not let our rulers load us with perpetual debt. We must make our election between economy and liberty or profusion and servitude. If we run into such debt, as that we must be taxed in our meat and in our drink, in our necessaries and our comforts, in our labors and our amusements, for our calling and our creeds... [we will] have no time to think, no means of calling our miss-managers to account but be glad to obtain subsistence by hiring ourselves to rivet their chains on the necks of our fellow-sufferers... And this is the tendency of all human governments. A departure from principle in one instance becomes a precedent for [another ]... till the bulk of society is reduced to be mere automatons of misery... And the fore-horse of this frightful team is public debt. Taxation follows that, and in its train wretchedness and oppression. - Thomas Jefferson


AND NOW WE ARE BEING BOMBARDED WITH MESSAGES THAT OSAMA BIN LADIN IS PLANNING TO ATTACK THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA. AND I'M TELLING YOU, BE PREPARED FOR A MAJOR ATTACK. BUT IT WON'T BE OSAMA BIN LADEN, IT WILL BE THOSE BEHIND THE NWO. IT IS VERY LIKELY THAT THEY WILL STAGE A TERRORIST ATTACK AND IT IS GOING TO BE BID ENOUGH THAT MARTIAL LAW COULD BE DECLARED. - BILL COOPER 06/28/2001 (3 MONTHS BEFORE 9/11)





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