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If you dont do what "God" wants you are going to hell... tomato
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pretty much, im tryng to escaps the religion now, the only thing that keeps me hanging on is fear.
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If you dont do what "God" wants you are going to hell... tomato
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"God" in quotations? That is funny.... but I bet you dont get the joke.
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If you dont do what "God" wants you are going to hell... tomato
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You poor thing.
You don't know the true God then.
You believe in some other "god".

Thats not the God I know.
Revelation 1:7 "Behold, He comes with clouds; and every eye shall see Him, and they also which pierced Him: and all kindreds of the earth shall wail because of Him. Even so, Amen."

Zechariah 12:10 "And I will pour on the house of David, and on the inhabitants of Jerusalem, the spirit of grace and of supplications: and they shall look on Me whom they have pierced, and they shall mourn for Him, as one mourns for his only son, and shall be in bitterness for Him, as one that is in bitterness for his firstborn."
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pretty much, im tryng to escaps the religion now, the only thing that keeps me hanging on is fear.
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I am starting to doubt myself...but I cant let fear compromise who I am and what I want to do...

Here is eye opening site...

[link to luciferianliberationfront.org]
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You know we christians got a pretty fucked up view of shit, on one hand we got this wrathful god of israel, on anofher we got the loving father of jEsus, its a real mindfuck, manic depressive, co dependant religion.
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You know we christians got a pretty fucked up view of shit, on one hand we got this wrathful god of israel, on anofher we got the loving father of jEsus, its a real mindfuck, manic depressive, co dependant religion.
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Yeah, you are are a real Christian.
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You know we christians got a pretty fucked up view of shit, on one hand we got this wrathful god of israel, on anofher we got the loving father of jEsus, its a real mindfuck, manic depressive, co dependant religion.
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True. LOL...I have hard time believing bloodthirsty god of old testament is same one as in new testament. Probably some extraterrestrial being playing God.
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pretty much, im tryng to escaps the religion now, the only thing that keeps me hanging on is fear.


I am starting to doubt myself...but I cant let fear compromise who I am and what I want to do...

Here is eye opening site...

[link to luciferianliberationfront.org]
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You are a fucking spammer.
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pretty much, im tryng to escaps the religion now, the only thing that keeps me hanging on is fear.
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Being someone who only recently myself let go of this religion, I can totally understand what you're saying. It is not an easy thing, and sometimes I still have doubts myself. But when it gets hard, ask yourself this: At the end of the day, is the Christian God loving or is He not?

Is it loving to turn one's back on a sinner having humbled himself before you having seen you? Would you if you had a kid do that? Would you punish them forever on top of it?

Is it loving to punish ALL of us for sins we never even committed at all, and make us bear the brunt of mistakes others made long before us, if not for a blood sacrifice (Jesus)?

These are just a couple examples, bottom line is, you know these things aren't loving, you wouldn't be doubting if you didn't. If you know it, wouldn't you think God knows it too?

Further, remember that God cannot be contained by any one religion or book, to be as such He would cease to be unlimited. God is everywhere around us, no one belief system can have God strictly for itself.

Hope that helps. hf
No one is perfect. A babe before walking will first stumble and fall many times but NEVER gives up until he succeeds.

Always remember, ultimately, to never follow any person's belief. Your relationship with God is between you and God.

If nothing else, remember this: religion = subservience, control and conformity, the same template as EVERY government

"Most believers would kill truth if truth threatened their religion." L. K. Washburn

"This crime called blasphemy was invented by priests for the purpose of defending doctrines not able to take care of themselves." Robert Ingersoll

"If anyone wants to know how God feels, it's a warm light as if the sun is poking through dark clouds and lifting your spirits with pure joy."
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Re: Christian God rules with fear...
pretty much, im tryng to escaps the religion now, the only thing that keeps me hanging on is fear.


I am starting to doubt myself...but I cant let fear compromise who I am and what I want to do...

Here is eye opening site...

[link to luciferianliberationfront.org]
 Quoting: Whitehawk


well its fuckin weird. I didnt realize how enslaved i was to the mind fuck until i tried leaving i, thats whEn the fear of hell kicled in, it was in my subconcious wqitong to pop out.. But i am trying to abandon all superstiton, i wqnt my religion to be reality, not a book or philosophy.
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If you dont do what "God" wants you are going to hell... tomato
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Weird, seem's if you don't do what the government wants you to do you're going to prison.

If you don't do what your employer wants you to do you're going to be fired.

If you don't do what your chick wants you to do you're going to be dumped.

If you don't do what your landlord wants you to do you're going to be evicted.

Scary, hunh.

Fucking moron.

Your stupid. Your intelligence is stupid. Your intention's are TRITE and stupid. This thread is stupid. I've lost 3 brain cell's from responding to a stupid kid and I demand restitution! If only your mom didn't spit you wouldn't have been born!
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You know we christians got a pretty fucked up view of shit, on one hand we got this wrathful god of israel, on anofher we got the loving father of jEsus, its a real mindfuck, manic depressive, co dependant religion.


True. LOL...I have hard time believing bloodthirsty god of old testament is same one as in new testament. Probably some extraterrestrial being playing God.
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well if alien means foreign or unaturual , the jewish religions are all unaturual. They go against nature, your reality is based of a fuckin book, how stupid really...
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Re: Christian God rules with fear...
pretty much, im tryng to escaps the religion now, the only thing that keeps me hanging on is fear.


I am starting to doubt myself...but I cant let fear compromise who I am and what I want to do...

Here is eye opening site...

[link to luciferianliberationfront.org]


well its fuckin weird. I didnt realize how enslaved i was to the mind fuck until i tried leaving i, thats whEn the fear of hell kicled in, it was in my subconcious wqitong to pop out.. But i am trying to abandon all superstiton, i wqnt my religion to be reality, not a book or philosophy.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 878407


Don't give up, you are doing the right thing. Don't let anyone tell you you are wrong, cause you're not. It may not be easy to break free, but hold firm to your beliefs, they won't steer you wrong.
No one is perfect. A babe before walking will first stumble and fall many times but NEVER gives up until he succeeds.

Always remember, ultimately, to never follow any person's belief. Your relationship with God is between you and God.

If nothing else, remember this: religion = subservience, control and conformity, the same template as EVERY government

"Most believers would kill truth if truth threatened their religion." L. K. Washburn

"This crime called blasphemy was invented by priests for the purpose of defending doctrines not able to take care of themselves." Robert Ingersoll

"If anyone wants to know how God feels, it's a warm light as if the sun is poking through dark clouds and lifting your spirits with pure joy."
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pretty much, im tryng to escaps the religion now, the only thing that keeps me hanging on is fear.


Being someone who only recently myself let go of this religion, I can totally understand what you're saying. It is not an easy thing, and sometimes I still have doubts myself. But when it gets hard, ask yourself this: At the end of the day, is the Christian God loving or is He not?

Is it loving to turn one's back on a sinner having humbled himself before you having seen you? Would you if you had a kid do that? Would you punish them forever on top of it?

Is it loving to punish ALL of us for sins we never even committed at all, and make us bear the brunt of mistakes others made long before us, if not for a blood sacrifice (Jesus)?

These are just a couple examples, bottom line is, you know these things aren't loving, you wouldn't be doubting if you didn't. If you know it, wouldn't you think God knows it too?

Further, remember that God cannot be contained by any one religion or book, to be as such He would cease to be unlimited. God is everywhere around us, no one belief system can have God strictly for itself.

Hope that helps. hf
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This bitch is as stupid as you are, fucking idiot's.
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This is because incomplete intelligence (of the kind characterizing serial sinners) only reacts to the prospect of physical distress.
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You know we christians got a pretty fucked up view of shit, on one hand we got this wrathful god of israel, on anofher we got the loving father of jEsus, its a real mindfuck, manic depressive, co dependant religion.


Yeah, you are are a real Christian.
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sincerely i was, and i learned some good stuff as far as morals qre concerned, like the golden rule, from the teachings of jesus. But reality kicked in and i realized beyond the moral fortitude of jesus, the religipn is basically stupid, its like buying this whole stupid story lineto gp tp heqven rather than deaping with reality.
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pretty much, im tryng to escaps the religion now, the only thing that keeps me hanging on is fear.
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For God has not given us a spirit of fear, but of power and of love and of a sound mind - 2 Timothy 1:7.
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sincerely i was, and i learned some good stuff as far as morals qre concerned, like the golden rule, from the teachings of jesus. But reality kicked in and i realized beyond the moral fortitude of jesus, the religipn is basically stupid, its like buying this whole stupid story lineto gp tp heqven rather than deaping with reality.
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blink

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Well... Actually, all people who don't live to see the Lord return, will be going to "hell", unless they are cremated. "Hell" is simply an old English word translated from the original Greek word Hades, with simply means "the grave".

I think what YOU are referring to, is the Lake of Fire, which is where the unrepentant wicked will be cast, after the judgment.

And if you ask anyone with a true understanding of the scriptures, the Lake of Fire will be a just, and fitting end, for those who refuse to abide by the rules of a Holy God. After all, it IS His universe, and HE reserves the absolute right to determine who, and who does not, deserve to live in HIS universe.

Everybody is given a choice. Either accept Gods plan to restore mans relationship with Him, or reject it and persih. I've got NO problem with that. Especially considering what it COST God to make it possible to satisfy His own justice, and FAIRNESS to all those angels who remained loyal.

Hey, if you actually feel that it's a good thing for wicked people to continue to ply their trade in this universe indefinitely, then I submit that YOU are wicked, and I'm glad that your time is limited.


G'nite.
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Well... Actually, all people who don't live to see the Lord return, will be going to "hell", unless they are cremated. "Hell" is simply an old English word translated from the original Greek word Hades, with simply means "the grave".

I think what YOU are referring to, is the Lake of Fire, which is where the unrepentant wicked will be cast, after the judgment.

And if you ask anyone with a true understanding of the scriptures, the Lake of Fire will be a just, and fitting end, for those who refuse to abide by the rules of a Holy God. After all, it IS His universe, and HE reserves the absolute right to determine who, and who does not, deserve to live in HIS universe.

Everybody is given a choice. Either accept Gods plan to restore mans relationship with Him, or reject it and perish. I've got NO problem with that. Especially considering what it COST God to make it possible to satisfy His own justice, and FAIRNESS to all those angels who remained loyal.

Hey, if you actually feel that it's a good thing for wicked people to continue to ply their trade in this universe indefinitely, then I submit that YOU are wicked, and I'm glad that your time is limited.


G'nite.
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Re: Christian God rules with fear...
pretty much, im tryng to escaps the religion now, the only thing that keeps me hanging on is fear.


I am starting to doubt myself...but I cant let fear compromise who I am and what I want to do...

Here is eye opening site...

[link to luciferianliberationfront.org]


well its fuckin weird. I didnt realize how enslaved i was to the mind fuck until i tried leaving i, thats whEn the fear of hell kicled in, it was in my subconcious wqitong to pop out.. But i am trying to abandon all superstiton, i wqnt my religion to be reality, not a book or philosophy.


Don't give up, you are doing the right thing. Don't let anyone tell you you are wrong, cause you're not. It may not be easy to break free, but hold firm to your beliefs, they won't steer you wrong.
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Hey seriously thankS for the encouragenent! I know i am smarter than "it" but its really hard to let it all go, its a weird brain addiction, i dint realize i was hooked until i tried to quit, lol, but thx again! Merry festivus! Hahahaha!!!!
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Well... Actually, all people who don't live to see the Lord return, will be going to "hell", unless they are cremated. "Hell" is simply an old English word translated from the original Greek word Hades, with simply means "the grave".

I think what YOU are referring to, is the Lake of Fire, which is where the unrepentant wicked will be cast, after the judgment.

And if you ask anyone with a true understanding of the scriptures, the Lake of Fire will be a just, and fitting end, for those who refuse to abide by the rules of a Holy God. After all, it IS His universe, and HE reserves the absolute right to determine who, and who does not, deserve to live in HIS universe.

Everybody is given a choice. Either accept Gods plan to restore mans relationship with Him, or reject it and persih. I've got NO problem with that. Especially considering what it COST God to make it possible to satisfy His own justice, and FAIRNESS to all those angels who remained loyal.

Hey, if you actually feel that it's a good thing for wicked people to continue to ply their trade in this universe indefinitely, then I submit that YOU are wicked, and I'm glad that your time is limited.


G'nite.
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See this is the thing right here, I think it is US who are bloodthirsty and demand punishment for people, not God. Your comment is a prime example of that. You have no idea as to the mind of God.

Last Edited by ajk on 12/26/2010 05:42 AM
No one is perfect. A babe before walking will first stumble and fall many times but NEVER gives up until he succeeds.

Always remember, ultimately, to never follow any person's belief. Your relationship with God is between you and God.

If nothing else, remember this: religion = subservience, control and conformity, the same template as EVERY government

"Most believers would kill truth if truth threatened their religion." L. K. Washburn

"This crime called blasphemy was invented by priests for the purpose of defending doctrines not able to take care of themselves." Robert Ingersoll

"If anyone wants to know how God feels, it's a warm light as if the sun is poking through dark clouds and lifting your spirits with pure joy."
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pretty much, im tryng to escaps the religion now, the only thing that keeps me hanging on is fear.


I am starting to doubt myself...but I cant let fear compromise who I am and what I want to do...

Here is eye opening site...

[link to luciferianliberationfront.org]


well its fuckin weird. I didnt realize how enslaved i was to the mind fuck until i tried leaving i, thats whEn the fear of hell kicled in, it was in my subconcious wqitong to pop out.. But i am trying to abandon all superstiton, i wqnt my religion to be reality, not a book or philosophy.


Don't give up, you are doing the right thing. Don't let anyone tell you you are wrong, cause you're not. It may not be easy to break free, but hold firm to your beliefs, they won't steer you wrong.



Hey seriously thankS for the encouragenent! I know i am smarter than "it" but its really hard to let it all go, its a weird brain addiction, i dint realize i was hooked until i tried to quit, lol, but thx again! Merry festivus! Hahahaha!!!!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 878407


You're welcome, you're going in the right direction, just keep going, try not to look back. God is always there, you need not a book or religion to feel Him. That's why so many think their ways are right, because they all feel God, but they don't recognize that it's simply Him and not the religion.

Merry Festivus to you too lol. hf
No one is perfect. A babe before walking will first stumble and fall many times but NEVER gives up until he succeeds.

Always remember, ultimately, to never follow any person's belief. Your relationship with God is between you and God.

If nothing else, remember this: religion = subservience, control and conformity, the same template as EVERY government

"Most believers would kill truth if truth threatened their religion." L. K. Washburn

"This crime called blasphemy was invented by priests for the purpose of defending doctrines not able to take care of themselves." Robert Ingersoll

"If anyone wants to know how God feels, it's a warm light as if the sun is poking through dark clouds and lifting your spirits with pure joy."
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pretty much, im tryng to escaps the religion now, the only thing that keeps me hanging on is fear.


For God has not given us a spirit of fear, but of power and of love and of a sound mind - 2 Timothy 1:7.
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yeah great but this proves my point, its a mind fuck, this verse is telling you if you arent christian you should "fear" cant u see that?
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For God has not given us a spirit of fear, but of power and of love and of a sound mind - 2 Timothy 1:7.


yeah great but this proves my point, its a mind fuck, this verse is telling you if you arent christian you should "fear" cant u see that?
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It's also a contradiction, cause note this from Proverbs 9:10

The fear of the LORD [is] the beginning of wisdom and the knowledge of the holy [is] understanding.

Last Edited by ajk on 12/26/2010 05:45 AM
No one is perfect. A babe before walking will first stumble and fall many times but NEVER gives up until he succeeds.

Always remember, ultimately, to never follow any person's belief. Your relationship with God is between you and God.

If nothing else, remember this: religion = subservience, control and conformity, the same template as EVERY government

"Most believers would kill truth if truth threatened their religion." L. K. Washburn

"This crime called blasphemy was invented by priests for the purpose of defending doctrines not able to take care of themselves." Robert Ingersoll

"If anyone wants to know how God feels, it's a warm light as if the sun is poking through dark clouds and lifting your spirits with pure joy."
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At least you are asking and you are searching.
Your thread is a good sign.
Do you want to really KNOW the One true God?

Ephesians 2:8
"For by grace are you saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God".

Acts 15:11
"No! We believe it is through the grace of our Lord Jesus that we are saved, just as they are."

Romans 3:24
"and are justified freely by his grace through the redemption that came by Christ Jesus."

Romans 9:16
"It does not, therefore, depend on man's desire or effort, but on God's mercy."

Ephesians 2:5
"made us alive with Christ even when we were dead in transgressions--it is by grace you have been saved."

Galatians 2:16
"nevertheless knowing that a man is not justified by the works of the Law but through faith in Christ Jesus, even we have believed in Christ Jesus, so that we may be justified by faith in Christ and not by the works of the Law; since by the works of the Law no flesh will be justified."

Romans 5:8
"But God demonstrates His own love toward us, in that while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us."


So what does all of this lead to?
Gods goodness and kindness, His love and mercy for us, even in our state of hatred toward Him, causes us to turn toward Him.

Romans 2:4
"Or do you think lightly of the riches of His kindness and tolerance and patience, not knowing that it is the kindness of God leads you to repentance?"
Revelation 1:7 "Behold, He comes with clouds; and every eye shall see Him, and they also which pierced Him: and all kindreds of the earth shall wail because of Him. Even so, Amen."

Zechariah 12:10 "And I will pour on the house of David, and on the inhabitants of Jerusalem, the spirit of grace and of supplications: and they shall look on Me whom they have pierced, and they shall mourn for Him, as one mourns for his only son, and shall be in bitterness for Him, as one that is in bitterness for his firstborn."
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Hey whats up, yeah i mean the whole thing right now is i believe in a creator but not at all in the judeo way, its hard to describe, but its just like naturual, like this it, love while you can, dont fear, free the mind, to the point where i dont even like the word god, like lets disattach ourselves from descriptive fantasy and look at what is in front of us.

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