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Kiesha (Little Grandmother) crowther.. EXPOSED.... both sides here...

 
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no body mentioned race. although it is good you feel strongly about your ancestral heritage, something that is to be protected and cherished.


YOU DID.

"cultures"

You live under a rock? Where do you think different cultures come from? A laboratory?
 Quoting: Sigyn


READ what i originaly said, DO NOT take my words out of context.

my comment stands firm, "you cannot mix cultures and teaching".

nothing rasist there.
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The whites have already done enough stealing from The Sioux.



Oh stop! My mothers family is directly descended from the Souix. My mother is 3rd generation. Not even the elders in my family bitch about the white man. Most of the tribes simply want peace and to follow their traditions undisturbed. Sooo sick of the racist card on ALL FRONTS. FFS.
I'm a pale ass Native American- Italian, the only 'pale face' on either side of the family let me go cry on something... FFS

lmao
 Quoting: Opeth


I'm sorry you are truly short sited in this matter, it had nothing to do with race, it had to do with dominator cultures.

Starting with the Romans treating their occupied peoples as chattel.

This wonderful teaching came from Europe along with our wonderful European settlers.

They decided to "Help" these savages, by introducing them to their culture. I don't need to go any further, it is all undeniably true.

These Natives have incredible rates of suicide an alcoholism on their reservations.

The biggest continued threat are these new agers and progressive Professors proclaiming they way of the native culture.

I read the above from a Sioux website while investigating Native American Child rearing practices. I never continued the research or wrote the paper, not wanting to contribute to the bastardization of the Native American Culture.

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Re: Kiesha (Little Grandmother) crowther.. EXPOSED.... both sides here...
no body mentioned race. although it is good you feel strongly about your ancestral heritage, something that is to be protected and cherished.


YOU DID.

"cultures"

You live under a rock? Where do you think different cultures come from? A laboratory?


READ what i originaly said, DO NOT take my words out of context.

my comment stands firm, "you cannot mix cultures and teaching".

nothing rasist there.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1207521



before you 'miss-label'culture , culture was intended as a belief systems for the purpose of that comment.
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12/28/2010 09:58 PM
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Glad to see the truth of her lies.

But will she stop now? Or find a new scam?

Maybe she should have called herself Little ScamMother.
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Their argument against those of us that are Native was that we were RACIST. Utter horse crap.

Thanks, my AV is a visual of me, before I got on GLP and after GLP.


Yes complete bullshit. I don't know what generation or tribe your family is but I'm sure you would agree with what I just posted.

(I dig the animation, hella cute)


I'm a member of the Yavapai-Apache nation. My mom was full NA. However I do agree with the thought that blaming the white man is a useless sentiment. It brings us nothing but bitterness and keeps us from being whole in spirit.

(thanks, I thought I'd have some fun with my pictures)
 Quoting: ^^Azul^^


Cool...My gramps is Apache! txwito
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Cool...My gramps is Apache! txwito
 Quoting: TXGal4Truth


I can totally see it in your bone structure. We seem to have a similar race mix.
:OMFGZombie:

~i categorically deny all accusations~
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I URGE YOU ALL TO READ THE COMMENTS LEFT ON THE YOUTUBE VIDEO
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12/28/2010 11:05 PM

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I think she was close to getting caught so she decided to tell people herself. New Age Cult, we had a thread about a month ago ,pro's and con's about her, something was said the the Hawaiians had been waiting 200 years for a blond woman to come and dig up the some crystal , I said bull crap, 200 yrs ago the Hawaiians were killing white folk and really still dont like them to this day, Hardly waiting for a mystic white woman who had magic. But there was a lady poster who argured , the Hawaiians were waiting on Little Gramother.
KINGDOMS, NATIONS AND KINGS HAVE BEEN BROUGHT DOWN TO THEIR KNEES WITH ONE GLANCE FROM A WOMAN.

I WEAR MY SKIN OF ARMOR SO NO ONE CAN GET IN AND NO ONE CAN GET OUT.

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I wrote about her thievery weeks ago. But no one listened. Said I was being mean. Said I was rude. Said things about my mother.


I had the same thing happened to me. In that long thread about her. I was called all sorts of names.
 Quoting: ^^Azul^^


Girl you are hot did you get called names like buetifull? princess? sexy?

Did anyone see the video of Kiesha crowther crying about the animals?

I swear I have never been so sick lol.
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I wrote about her thievery weeks ago. But no one listened. Said I was being mean. Said I was rude. Said things about my mother.


I had the same thing happened to me. In that long thread about her. I was called all sorts of names.


Girl you are hot did you get called names like buetifull? princess? sexy?

Did anyone see the video of Kiesha crowther crying about the animals?

I swear I have never been so sick lol.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1209372


No, the Keishaettes were not so complimentary. I find Ms Fauxthers whole demeanor vomit inducing.
:OMFGZombie:

~i categorically deny all accusations~
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But, but....who will I bow to now???


[link to littlegrandmother.net]






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another one bites the dust. im sure there will be another 10 to fill her place.
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12/29/2010 06:46 AM
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*sigh* NOOBS!

Read the damn sauce

'Today Kiesha’s work and wisdom is directed by her spirit guides, ancestors, living elders, spirit guides from the South American people and Great Spirit. Her intent is to remain true to the universal nature of the message she has been asked to share while clearly not representing any Native American people or traditions. Kiesha continues public speaking and healing ceremonies as requested for the benefit of Mother Earth. And, despite her heritage, she will conduct all work without Native American regalia, Native American sacred implements or specific rituals.

Her sincere hope is to honor the global nature of the work she has been asked to do while, to the extent possible, preventing misunderstandings among any tribal members.

With deep respect for indigenous people and their wisdom, she will continue to work with indigenous peoples all over the world and with the Continental Council of Indigenous Elders to perform sacred work to which she is called.'

[link to www.tribeofmanycolors.net]

OP knows how to select things that benefit him. Keisha is still doing her thing with the support of the tribes.
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*sigh* NOOBS!

Read the damn sauce


 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1190019


read the damn thread and it contents, perticularly mine NOOB!..
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 Quoting: darkhorse 1207521
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*sigh* NOOBS!

Read the damn sauce

'Today Kiesha’s work and wisdom is directed by her spirit guides, ancestors, living elders, spirit guides from the South American people and Great Spirit. Her intent is to remain true to the universal nature of the message she has been asked to share while clearly not representing any Native American people or traditions. Kiesha continues public speaking and healing ceremonies as requested for the benefit of Mother Earth. And, despite her heritage, she will conduct all work without Native American regalia, Native American sacred implements or specific rituals.

Her sincere hope is to honor the global nature of the work she has been asked to do while, to the extent possible, preventing misunderstandings among any tribal members.

With deep respect for indigenous people and their wisdom, she will continue to work with indigenous peoples all over the world and with the Continental Council of Indigenous Elders to perform sacred work to which she is called.'

[link to www.tribeofmanycolors.net]

OP knows how to select things that benefit him. Keisha is still doing her thing with the support of the tribes.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1190019


I love the semantics - press releases like this indicate that the organisation/s [i.e. CSKT] have indicated if the perp continues to make these claims, they'll land themselves in court for false representation.....

and who exactly is the "Continental Council of Indigenous Elders"???

They've got no reps here with our indigenous....
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addenum - brain kicked in!
continental means not this continent, hence no recognition

however the query still stands on who they are.
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Fuck dude, she works in Sedona. What more do you need to know?
The storm is closing in to begin again from the beginning. Never sitting through my waking life oblivious. The ignorance running rampant through the city is indicative of something worse; this picture isn't pretty.
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12/29/2010 08:14 AM
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BOTTOM LINE:
IS SHE HELPING TO AWAKEN IN PEOPLE A GREATER AWARENESS AND LOVE FOR THE EARTH AND ALL CREATURES ?
IS THAT NOT SUPPOSED TO BE THE MOST NOBLE GIFT THAT ONE CAN OFFER< ACCORDING TO THE RED MAN'S OWN CREED ?
WHAT IS MORE IMPORTANT THEN< WHO SERVES AS THE CHANNEL FOR THIS AWAKENING,
OR THE FACT THAT THE AWAKENING IS STIRRED ?

STOP BEING HATERS, I DOUBT THAT THAT'S WHAT THE ELDERDS
WHO YOU CLAIM TO MATTER SO MUCH TO YOU<
WOULD WANT FOR YOU TO DO NOW.


CALL IT NEW-AGE IF IT MAKES YOU FEEL BETTER
BUT THE RAINBOW TRIBE IS REAL
AND THE TIME IS NOW FOR AWAKENING AND UNITY...
REMEMBER YOUR PRIME DIRECTIVE


grouphug



peace
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BOTTOM LINE:
IS SHE HELPING TO AWAKEN IN PEOPLE A GREATER AWARENESS AND LOVE FOR THE EARTH AND ALL CREATURES ?
IS THAT NOT SUPPOSED TO BE THE MOST NOBLE GIFT THAT ONE CAN OFFER< ACCORDING TO THE RED MAN'S OWN CREED ?
WHAT IS MORE IMPORTANT THEN< WHO SERVES AS THE CHANNEL FOR THIS AWAKENING,
OR THE FACT THAT THE AWAKENING IS STIRRED ?

STOP BEING HATERS, I DOUBT THAT THAT'S WHAT THE ELDERDS
WHO YOU CLAIM TO MATTER SO MUCH TO YOU<
WOULD WANT FOR YOU TO DO NOW.


CALL IT NEW-AGE IF IT MAKES YOU FEEL BETTER
BUT THE RAINBOW TRIBE IS REAL
AND THE TIME IS NOW FOR AWAKENING AND UNITY...
REMEMBER YOUR PRIME DIRECTIVE


grouphug



peace
 Quoting: MANY COLORS 1086801



so do all these means of subterafuge and misrepresentation of other good folk justify the end then?

the road to hell is paved with good intentions.

As a enthusiast of hermetics and ecognosis for want of better terms, these 'rules of play' leave me shuddering :-(
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BOTTOM LINE:
IS SHE HELPING TO AWAKEN IN PEOPLE A GREATER AWARENESS AND LOVE FOR THE EARTH AND ALL CREATURES ?
IS THAT NOT SUPPOSED TO BE THE MOST NOBLE GIFT THAT ONE CAN OFFER< ACCORDING TO THE RED MAN'S OWN CREED ?
WHAT IS MORE IMPORTANT THEN< WHO SERVES AS THE CHANNEL FOR THIS AWAKENING,
OR THE FACT THAT THE AWAKENING IS STIRRED ?

STOP BEING HATERS, I DOUBT THAT THAT'S WHAT THE ELDERDS
WHO YOU CLAIM TO MATTER SO MUCH TO YOU<
WOULD WANT FOR YOU TO DO NOW.


CALL IT NEW-AGE IF IT MAKES YOU FEEL BETTER
BUT THE RAINBOW TRIBE IS REAL
AND THE TIME IS NOW FOR AWAKENING AND UNITY...
REMEMBER YOUR PRIME DIRECTIVE


grouphug



peace
 Quoting: MANY COLORS 1086801


And YELLING AT US makes you less of a hater?

When you base things on a lie, there is no putting a shiny happy coating over it. GET IT.
:OMFGZombie:

~i categorically deny all accusations~
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12/29/2010 12:23 PM
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thanks for that video. I appreciated

I don't think that this person isn't "bad" person. But when she has to piggyback on, or even steal, the traditions of another culture to lend her credibility that is just not cool



no it is not cool, she has and brought great shame to the Sioux and Salish flat and also head reservation and brought the ways and teachings into disrepute.

how can you mistakenly be named shamen for any tribe?, simple,.. you cannot. its is impossible.


I totally agree.
 Quoting: Bluestone 1178645

Me too. hf
She's con artist plain and simple.

If you haven't seen this yet have a look.

[link to www.newagefraud.org]
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Re: Kiesha (Little Grandmother) crowther.. EXPOSED.... both sides here...
BOTTOM LINE:
IS SHE HELPING TO AWAKEN IN PEOPLE A GREATER AWARENESS AND LOVE FOR THE EARTH AND ALL CREATURES ?
IS THAT NOT SUPPOSED TO BE THE MOST NOBLE GIFT THAT ONE CAN OFFER< ACCORDING TO THE RED MAN'S OWN CREED ?
WHAT IS MORE IMPORTANT THEN< WHO SERVES AS THE CHANNEL FOR THIS AWAKENING,
OR THE FACT THAT THE AWAKENING IS STIRRED ?

STOP BEING HATERS, I DOUBT THAT THAT'S WHAT THE ELDERDS
WHO YOU CLAIM TO MATTER SO MUCH TO YOU<
WOULD WANT FOR YOU TO DO NOW.


CALL IT NEW-AGE IF IT MAKES YOU FEEL BETTER
BUT THE RAINBOW TRIBE IS REAL
AND THE TIME IS NOW FOR AWAKENING AND UNITY...
REMEMBER YOUR PRIME DIRECTIVE


grouphug



peace
 Quoting: MANY COLORS 1086801



There are countless ways to spread awareness and love that DO NOT involve deception, disrespect, dishonesty, and monetary gain.


If the platform from which one wishes to enlighten from is not just and true, than the message will never really find its way into the hearts and minds of the intended.

...only the pocketbooks.

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There are countless ways to spread awareness and love that DO NOT involve deception, disrespect, dishonesty and monetary gain.


If the platform from which one wishes to enlighten from is not just and true, than the message will never really find its way into the hearts and minds of the intended.

...only the pocketbooks.

bump
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Yeah I like her backpedaling there. Oh I didn't know...yeah right.


Yup yup. Many of us, particularly of Native American descent, have been stating her falsity from the beginning. Such things are not to be trifled with, I was pretty stunned with her coming forth to begin with.
FFS

btw, cute new Avie Az flower


Their argument against those of us that are Native was that we were RACIST. Utter horse crap.

Thanks, my AV is a visual of me, before I got on GLP and after GLP.
 Quoting: ^^Azul^^



Damn Azul, I know that I'm having nightmares tonight
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Crowther is a scumbag, pure and simple. And you idiots that are defending her are no better.
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I sure am glad they found out she was a fraud, all the pictures of her not one Native American in her circle, giving love in one hand and wanting money in the other, now she says she is endorsed by the South Americans Mayans, cant scam artists go to jail? of course over in Europe all you have to do is wear some beads and feathers and they think you are real Native American
KINGDOMS, NATIONS AND KINGS HAVE BEEN BROUGHT DOWN TO THEIR KNEES WITH ONE GLANCE FROM A WOMAN.

I WEAR MY SKIN OF ARMOR SO NO ONE CAN GET IN AND NO ONE CAN GET OUT.

HOW CAN I MOURN YOU, WHEN I HAVE NEVER LET YOU GO, monster 1991-2008 RIP
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I sure am glad they found out she was a fraud, all the pictures of her not one Native American in her circle, giving love in one hand and wanting money in the other, now she says she is endorsed by the South Americans Mayans, cant scam artists go to jail? of course over in Europe all you have to do is wear some beads and feathers and they think you are real Native American
 Quoting: MONSTER

Yep, someone comes out of the woodwork like LG the "shame on" and suddenly becomes popular-- and foolish people bowing down to them like they are Messiahs' (I can think of a few others making the rounds too) I am so glad to see them being exposed for what they really are.
hf
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[link to www.newagefraud.org]

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