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Fine Material User ID: 1155915 United States 12/29/2010 11:26 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I don't disagree with this. My point is that incorrect statements made by the conspiracy theorists severely damages their credibility. This is basic chemistry, what else do they have wrong? Everything? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1210424Basic chemistry says that the Aluminum in the earth is mostly locked up in forms that do not interact with humanity. Granted, there are some compounds (like poorly made baking soda) that contain aluminum. Aluminum is not a human friendly material. I'm amazed to see it used in cookware and cups. Of course, some people and governments are just fucking stupid. After all, until relatively recently, TPTB were killing people for being "witches". Agreed, I do not own any aluminum pots. But here is a key point I see continually causing confusion. There is a HUGE difference between aluminum and aluminum oxide. Aluminum: reactive metal, can burn, is even used as a rocket fuel. Aluminum Oxide: Inert rock, almost as hard as diamond. |
Virga User ID: 1043598 Netherlands 12/29/2010 11:27 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I just keep taking pics and vids of it....hoping someone will notice if I put them on facebook and u-tube...... Quoting: fillantpre 1210441THEY ARE SO OBVIOUS .............. People just don't know about them............. The belief in chemtrails is only possible with a severe lack of knowledge on subjects like meteorology, aircraft, airlaw & ATC procedures and the scientific method in general. Just because you see something you deem strange in the sky does not mean it is part of some sort of conspiracy. Educate yourself on these subjects first and then look at the data again. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1198782 United States 12/29/2010 11:30 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I don't disagree with this. My point is that incorrect statements made by the conspiracy theorists severely damages their credibility. This is basic chemistry, what else do they have wrong? Everything? Quoting: Fine MaterialBasic chemistry says that the Aluminum in the earth is mostly locked up in forms that do not interact with humanity. Granted, there are some compounds (like poorly made baking soda) that contain aluminum. Aluminum is not a human friendly material. I'm amazed to see it used in cookware and cups. Of course, some people and governments are just fucking stupid. After all, until relatively recently, TPTB were killing people for being "witches". Agreed, I do not own any aluminum pots. But here is a key point I see continually causing confusion. There is a HUGE difference between aluminum and aluminum oxide. Aluminum: reactive metal, can burn, is even used as a rocket fuel. Aluminum Oxide: Inert rock, almost as hard as diamond. Do you work for Spirit AeroSystems? Funny how they took the website down soon after disclosure. |
Fine Material User ID: 1155915 United States 12/29/2010 11:30 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I just keep taking pics and vids of it....hoping someone will notice if I put them on facebook and u-tube...... Quoting: Virga 1043598THEY ARE SO OBVIOUS .............. People just don't know about them............. The belief in chemtrails is only possible with a severe lack of knowledge on subjects like meteorology, aircraft, airlaw & ATC procedures and the scientific method in general. Just because you see something you deem strange in the sky does not mean it is part of some sort of conspiracy. Educate yourself on these subjects first and then look at the data again. This before all other discussion. Another question unanswered in the article: If Arizona bans chemtrails how would they enforce the bans? Who would they contact? Or would the district attorney just roll his eyes at the legislature's idiocy? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1210440 United States 12/29/2010 11:31 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I just keep taking pics and vids of it....hoping someone will notice if I put them on facebook and u-tube...... Quoting: Virga 1043598THEY ARE SO OBVIOUS .............. People just don't know about them............. The belief in chemtrails is only possible with a severe lack of knowledge on subjects like meteorology, aircraft, airlaw & ATC procedures and the scientific method in general. Just because you see something you deem strange in the sky does not mean it is part of some sort of conspiracy. Educate yourself on these subjects first and then look at the data again. Ignoring chemtrails is only possible if you have a severe overabundance of indoctrination. There is no way what I am seeing is an 'atmospheric' phenomenon. I've looked at this data for 10 years and observed spraying all over the US, including Hawaii. Sorry, it's just too obvious for mere taunting to dissuade us from getting to the bottom of this nightmare. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 1210340 United Kingdom 12/29/2010 11:33 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ""The data found from the producers shows that one of the chemicals being sprayed is aluminum oxide which is toxic to all life," said an angry Johnson" Quoting: Fine MaterialLOL! Aluminum Oxide is not toxic. In fact it's in most common rocks. It's in a fine skin on your aluminum foil. It's in your jewelry and you call it ruby or sapphire. Then again, I guess I shouldn't be letting a few facts get in the way of a good conspiracy. Sorry about that!!! Aluminium and aluminium oxide are both dangerous to humans when its in small parts and can get into the skin, lungs, bloodstream.Aluminium is well known to get into the brain and fuck with neural activity, but as you said it's perfectly 100% safe. It isn't safe unless its too large to get into your body and even then there will be loose atoms that can escape. It CAN be found in rubies and saphires, but it isn't "What you call ruby and saphire", that is misleading and just you trying to convince other people of your false "facts". Thank you, have a nice day. |
MONSTER User ID: 1206943 United States 12/29/2010 11:34 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ""The data found from the producers shows that one of the chemicals being sprayed is aluminum oxide which is toxic to all life," said an angry Johnson" Quoting: Fine MaterialLOL! Aluminum Oxide is not toxic. In fact it's in most common rocks. It's in a fine skin on your aluminum foil. It's in your jewelry and you call it ruby or sapphire. Then again, I guess I shouldn't be letting a few facts get in the way of a good conspiracy. Sorry about that!!! Breathing it in jackass, is alot different than spreading it on your skin. RETARD Breathing it in doesn't cause any problems either. It's a cubic crystal the body easily disposes of. And even if it did stay in your lungs there would be no reaction. It's a very stable rock, there is nothing in your body that can break it down. It's called an education, look into it. Retard! What about the the other stuff they found in the air after spraying? what was it like 33 different chemicals, it wasnt just Aluminum Oxide, plus covering the Sun, our bodies need sunshine, mentally and physically. KINGDOMS, NATIONS AND KINGS HAVE BEEN BROUGHT DOWN TO THEIR KNEES WITH ONE GLANCE FROM A WOMAN. I WEAR MY SKIN OF ARMOR SO NO ONE CAN GET IN AND NO ONE CAN GET OUT. HOW CAN I MOURN YOU, WHEN I HAVE NEVER LET YOU GO, monster 1991-2008 RIP |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1143583 United States 12/29/2010 11:35 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | [link to www.wmicentral.com] Quoting: fillantpre 1210441Fair Use..... One of these issues took her on a recent trip back to the state capital to try to bring the subject of chemtrails and geoengineering to her former colleagues, including Governor Jan Brewer and Senator Sylvia Allen who is from Snowflake. Taking several people active in the chemtrail debate with her, Johnson visited the House, the Senate and Governor Brewer's offices, dropping off packets that contain the DVD "What in the World are they spraying," and articles and information on the subject. THIS IS WHERE IT WILL BEGIN THEN, THE BEGINNING OF THE END......unless they come clean why they are doing it and people accept the idea which I do not see why they would with those toxic poisons......... I just keep taking pics and vids of it....hoping someone will notice if I put them on facebook and u-tube...... THEY ARE SO OBVIOUS .............. People just don't know about them............. And this is why they MUST put restraints on what we post on the Internet. They are afraid people like you will educate and sheeple will awaken. Keep posting until they shut it down. |
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Fine Material User ID: 1155915 United States 12/29/2010 11:37 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Aluminium and aluminium oxide are both dangerous to humans when its in small parts and can get into the skin, lungs, bloodstream.Aluminium is well known to get into the brain and fuck with neural activity, but as you said it's perfectly 100% safe. It isn't safe unless its too large to get into your body and even then there will be loose atoms that can escape. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1210340It CAN be found in rubies and saphires, but it isn't "What you call ruby and saphire", that is misleading and just you trying to convince other people of your false "facts". Thank you, have a nice day. You are right, ruby and sapphire are only 99.999+% aluminum oxide. [link to en.wikipedia.org] |
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fillantpre User ID: 1210441 United States 12/29/2010 11:39 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I just keep taking pics and vids of it....hoping someone will notice if I put them on facebook and u-tube...... Quoting: Virga 1043598THEY ARE SO OBVIOUS .............. People just don't know about them............. The belief in chemtrails is only possible with a severe lack of knowledge on subjects like meteorology, aircraft, airlaw & ATC procedures and the scientific method in general. Just because you see something you deem strange in the sky does not mean it is part of some sort of conspiracy. Educate yourself on these subjects first and then look at the data again. I am not ignorant shill arsehole........ CHEMTRAILS ARE SPRAYED, THEY FORM A LOWER CHEMCLOUD LAYER WHEN THEY SPREAD OUT TO KEEP US FROM SEEING THE TOP LAYER, THE REAL LAYER...... THEY REFLECT LIGHT......AND GLOW.....contrails do not glow electric........only metals do that.... you people are running scared because more and more people are finding out about your dirty deeds...and eventually you will have to come clean.......no one believes your bullshite anymore....... I have pics from yesterday of a very abnormal sunset...with tons of chemtrails in it GLOWING NEON.......and pics of chemplanes and spotter jets...... you are not kidding anyone. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 57108 United States 12/29/2010 11:39 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I just keep taking pics and vids of it....hoping someone will notice if I put them on facebook and u-tube...... Quoting: Fine MaterialTHEY ARE SO OBVIOUS .............. People just don't know about them............. The belief in chemtrails is only possible with a severe lack of knowledge on subjects like meteorology, aircraft, airlaw & ATC procedures and the scientific method in general. Just because you see something you deem strange in the sky does not mean it is part of some sort of conspiracy. Educate yourself on these subjects first and then look at the data again. This before all other discussion. Another question unanswered in the article: If Arizona bans chemtrails how would they enforce the bans? Who would they contact? Or would the district attorney just roll his eyes at the legislature's idiocy? Aluminum is a multi purpose weapon in aerosol spraying operations.It acts as a dispersant as well as sterilizing the soil and poisoning the water.You are a stupid fucking shill working for the govt. or one of these companies.Fuck ooff. |
fillantpre User ID: 1210441 United States 12/29/2010 11:41 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I just keep taking pics and vids of it....hoping someone will notice if I put them on facebook and u-tube...... Quoting: Fine MaterialTHEY ARE SO OBVIOUS .............. People just don't know about them............. The belief in chemtrails is only possible with a severe lack of knowledge on subjects like meteorology, aircraft, airlaw & ATC procedures and the scientific method in general. Just because you see something you deem strange in the sky does not mean it is part of some sort of conspiracy. Educate yourself on these subjects first and then look at the data again. This before all other discussion. Another question unanswered in the article: If Arizona bans chemtrails how would they enforce the bans? Who would they contact? Or would the district attorney just roll his eyes at the legislature's idiocy? I hope you and your friends get diarrrhea worrying about it. |
MONSTER User ID: 1206943 United States 12/29/2010 11:41 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Asbestos is a rock but broken down and sprayed in the air is deadly, it has barbs on the end of the rock sliver and hooks in the lung and isnt broken down, so how do we know what these chemicals are doing to our bodies. Why are they spraying anyway? KINGDOMS, NATIONS AND KINGS HAVE BEEN BROUGHT DOWN TO THEIR KNEES WITH ONE GLANCE FROM A WOMAN. I WEAR MY SKIN OF ARMOR SO NO ONE CAN GET IN AND NO ONE CAN GET OUT. HOW CAN I MOURN YOU, WHEN I HAVE NEVER LET YOU GO, monster 1991-2008 RIP |
fillantpre User ID: 1210441 United States 12/29/2010 11:43 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | [link to www.wmicentral.com] Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1143583Fair Use..... One of these issues took her on a recent trip back to the state capital to try to bring the subject of chemtrails and geoengineering to her former colleagues, including Governor Jan Brewer and Senator Sylvia Allen who is from Snowflake. Taking several people active in the chemtrail debate with her, Johnson visited the House, the Senate and Governor Brewer's offices, dropping off packets that contain the DVD "What in the World are they spraying," and articles and information on the subject. THIS IS WHERE IT WILL BEGIN THEN, THE BEGINNING OF THE END......unless they come clean why they are doing it and people accept the idea which I do not see why they would with those toxic poisons......... I just keep taking pics and vids of it....hoping someone will notice if I put them on facebook and u-tube...... THEY ARE SO OBVIOUS .............. People just don't know about them............. And this is why they MUST put restraints on what we post on the Internet. They are afraid people like you will educate and sheeple will awaken. Keep posting until they shut it down. I will trust me..........and the pics I have cannot be argued with..... |
Virga User ID: 1043598 Netherlands 12/29/2010 11:43 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Ignoring chemtrails is only possible if you have a severe overabundance of indoctrination. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1210440There is no way what I am seeing is an 'atmospheric' phenomenon. I've looked at this data for 10 years and observed spraying all over the US, including Hawaii. Sorry, it's just too obvious for mere taunting to dissuade us from getting to the bottom of this nightmare. We both make the same observations: long white streamers that occasionally spread. The difference between you and I is that you don't look at this phenomena in a scientific manner. You just see something you think of strange and therefore assume it is strange and put it in a conspiracy theory. You wrote: "There is no way what I am seeing is an 'atmospheric' phenomenon." Can you explain this in more detail? It is clear that these streamers originate from aircraft, but why do you think it is not possible for them to last long or spread? Contrails are cirriform clouds by definition. Natrural cirriform clouds can last from mere seconds to many hours and even days. So why not when the cloud is not natural but artificial? You wrote: "I've looked at this data for 10 years and observed spraying all over the US, including Hawaii." If that is the case you can obviously give me the aeronautical weather data applicable to those observations and the aircraft types. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1204120 United States 12/29/2010 11:48 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ""The data found from the producers shows that one of the chemicals being sprayed is aluminum oxide which is toxic to all life," said an angry Johnson" Quoting: fillantpre 1210441LOL! Aluminum Oxide is not toxic. In fact it's in most common rocks. It's in a fine skin on your aluminum foil. It's in your jewelry and you call it ruby or sapphire. Then again, I guess I shouldn't be letting a few facts get in the way of a good conspiracy. Sorry about that!!! So do you laugh away the barium, stronium, ethylene dibromide, lead, arsenic and the like also? WOULD YOU CIRCULATE IT INSIDE YOUR HOUSE> ??? IN YOUR CHILDREN'S ROOMS? PEOPLE HAVE ASTHMA AND BRONCHITIS AND this sucks. you left out the carcinogen, hexavalent chromium, which has appeared out of nowhere in the water across the US. |
Virga User ID: 1043598 Netherlands 12/29/2010 11:52 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I am not ignorant shill arsehole........ Quoting: fillantpre 1210441CHEMTRAILS ARE SPRAYED, THEY FORM A LOWER CHEMCLOUD LAYER WHEN THEY SPREAD OUT TO KEEP US FROM SEEING THE TOP LAYER, THE REAL LAYER...... THEY REFLECT LIGHT......AND GLOW.....contrails do not glow electric........only metals do that.... you people are running scared because more and more people are finding out about your dirty deeds...and eventually you will have to come clean.......no one believes your bullshite anymore....... I have pics from yesterday of a very abnormal sunset...with tons of chemtrails in it GLOWING NEON.......and pics of chemplanes and spotter jets...... you are not kidding anyone. Can you explain why you think contrails cannot spread? I also urge you to look at the reflective and refractive properties of ice crystals. [link to cdn-www.airliners.net] All I ask are for explanations on your thoughts. it cannot be that hard to give them. if you cannot you must realize that what you think are just assumptions. how do we know what these chemicals are doing to our bodies. Why are they spraying anyway? Quoting: MONSTERYou might like to take into account the possibility that the streamers you see are just contrails. If chemtrails exist and if they are that toxic, then how is it possible that each time my passengers, my collegues and I do not get deadly ill each time we fly through what you would call a chemtrail? You would expect we inhale untold amounts of the matter then. |
MONSTER User ID: 1206943 United States 12/29/2010 11:53 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Ignoring chemtrails is only possible if you have a severe overabundance of indoctrination. Quoting: Virga 1043598There is no way what I am seeing is an 'atmospheric' phenomenon. I've looked at this data for 10 years and observed spraying all over the US, including Hawaii. Sorry, it's just too obvious for mere taunting to dissuade us from getting to the bottom of this nightmare. We both make the same observations: long white streamers that occasionally spread. The difference between you and I is that you don't look at this phenomena in a scientific manner. You just see something you think of strange and therefore assume it is strange and put it in a conspiracy theory. You wrote: "There is no way what I am seeing is an 'atmospheric' phenomenon." Can you explain this in more detail? It is clear that these streamers originate from aircraft, but why do you think it is not possible for them to last long or spread? Contrails are cirriform clouds by definition. Natrural cirriform clouds can last from mere seconds to many hours and even days. So why not when the cloud is not natural but artificial? You wrote: "I've looked at this data for 10 years and observed spraying all over the US, including Hawaii." If that is the case you can obviously give me the aeronautical weather data applicable to those observations and the aircraft types. Sorry I moved from Ohio which had chemtrails so bad, by afternoon you couldnt see any blue in the sky ,the sky looked like a checkerboard with x's now I live in Hawaii and see no chemtrails, the sky is blue with big cotten ball clouds like Ohio used to have when I was a kid. But no you are wrong I see no chemtrail here and I have been here for 5 yrs KINGDOMS, NATIONS AND KINGS HAVE BEEN BROUGHT DOWN TO THEIR KNEES WITH ONE GLANCE FROM A WOMAN. I WEAR MY SKIN OF ARMOR SO NO ONE CAN GET IN AND NO ONE CAN GET OUT. HOW CAN I MOURN YOU, WHEN I HAVE NEVER LET YOU GO, monster 1991-2008 RIP |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1198782 United States 12/29/2010 12:16 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Ignoring chemtrails is only possible if you have a severe overabundance of indoctrination. Quoting: MONSTERThere is no way what I am seeing is an 'atmospheric' phenomenon. I've looked at this data for 10 years and observed spraying all over the US, including Hawaii. Sorry, it's just too obvious for mere taunting to dissuade us from getting to the bottom of this nightmare. We both make the same observations: long white streamers that occasionally spread. The difference between you and I is that you don't look at this phenomena in a scientific manner. You just see something you think of strange and therefore assume it is strange and put it in a conspiracy theory. You wrote: "There is no way what I am seeing is an 'atmospheric' phenomenon." Can you explain this in more detail? It is clear that these streamers originate from aircraft, but why do you think it is not possible for them to last long or spread? Contrails are cirriform clouds by definition. Natrural cirriform clouds can last from mere seconds to many hours and even days. So why not when the cloud is not natural but artificial? You wrote: "I've looked at this data for 10 years and observed spraying all over the US, including Hawaii." If that is the case you can obviously give me the aeronautical weather data applicable to those observations and the aircraft types. Sorry I moved from Ohio which had chemtrails so bad, by afternoon you couldnt see any blue in the sky ,the sky looked like a checkerboard with x's now I live in Hawaii and see no chemtrails, the sky is blue with big cotten ball clouds like Ohio used to have when I was a kid. But no you are wrong I see no chemtrail here and I have been here for 5 yrs bump |
moksha User ID: 1207703 Canada 12/29/2010 12:17 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | alright. i would suggest for the ones here who do not believe in CHEMTRAILS, and think they are CONTRAILS, to simply go LOOK AT THE GOVERNMENTS OWN DOCUMENTS STATING EXACTLY that aerial dispersments are occuring. Look at the United Nations documentation as well. It's all there, go find it and face it. They admit it, it's the protocol. Oh, and there's some word going around that the U.N. is spraying to protect the planet from global warming (hoax). Then also that it is to protect the planet from solar flare. So, which is it? And when was the last time U.N. EVER DID IT FOR THE BENEFIT OF LIFE? gimme a break, they never have, and they never will. i filmed chemtrails too for a while. there are 2 kinds. "metallic" and plasmic. there are also the kinds that the CIA admits are also dispersed, and you people do not need to get INJECTED WITH RFID for you have already BREATHED THEM IN (and keep your kids away from the coca-cola) as for the arguments going on here, don't waste you time if you have something better to do, such as MOVING ON when you know the other CANNOT HANDLE THE TRUTH OF IT. Move into areas where you will make a difference with those who CAN MAKE A DIFFERENCE. good luck, and on with it. ps- don't ask me where to get the documents, or that you cannot find them (therefore making me a "conspiracy theorist"), you ARE A FULL GROWN ADULT WITH A BRAIN: GO AND GET THEM, I DON'T NEED TO HOLD YOUR HAND FOR YOU. |
Virga User ID: 1043598 Netherlands 12/29/2010 12:24 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | don't ask me where to get the documents, or that you cannot find them (therefore making me a "conspiracy theorist"), you ARE A FULL GROWN ADULT WITH A BRAIN: GO AND GET THEM, I DON'T NEED TO HOLD YOUR HAND FOR YOU. Quoting: moksha 1207703I am afraid I must ask you that question. Because none of the documents brought to my attention by chemtrails believers state a worldwide spraying operation is conducted. they only list possibility studies and local experiments and in many cases they even have nothing to do with the subject. That being said I also see no proof at all of chemtrails while I spend my professional life in and around aircraft. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 1210474 United States 12/29/2010 12:32 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | don't ask me where to get the documents, or that you cannot find them (therefore making me a "conspiracy theorist"), you ARE A FULL GROWN ADULT WITH A BRAIN: GO AND GET THEM, I DON'T NEED TO HOLD YOUR HAND FOR YOU. Quoting: Virga 1043598I am afraid I must ask you that question. Because none of the documents brought to my attention by chemtrails believers state a worldwide spraying operation is conducted. they only list possibility studies and local experiments and in many cases they even have nothing to do with the subject. That being said I also see no proof at all of chemtrails while I spend my professional life in and around aircraft. wow...international internet shill...cool...so who do you work for, may I ask? anyone who "sees no proof" has no fucking eyes, no brain, and no research skills....or else they are lying ass shill... I vote for the latter, in your case! |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1198782 United States 12/29/2010 12:33 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If there was such thing as chemtrails,What the hell could Quoting: Anonymous Coward 711379the Arizona Legislature do about it... They fly out of Marana, Arizona. I guess that would give them a little control over the spraying of their citizens. Putin asshole. |
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