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US WANTS Egypt to attack Israel

 
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12/29/2010 05:06 PM
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STATE DEPARTMENT SEEKS TO PROVOKE EGYPT TO ATTACK ISRAEL? BY EVE WINEGLASS,
A cable from the US Ambassador in Egypt to the US State Department revealed by Wikileaks this week reveals at best incompetence, at worst a vicious plot to destroy Israel.

In a confidential memo dated December 21, 2008, US Ambassador to Egypt Margaret Scobey complains that a Minister in the Egyptian government is a “Chief impediment in the face of US efforts to transform the Egyptian’s military mission to meet emerging security threats”.

The only “threat” Egypt faces is…Israel. Adjacent Libya does not have a military force of substance (though they are quite good at Terrorism). Who else is an “emerging security threat”? Adjacent Sudan? Nearby Chad? Iran is some 4,000 miles and several countries away.

The US has built the Egyptian military into an unwieldy colossus that threatens the stability of the “moderate” Mubarak regime. America has pumped vast sums – more than $70 Billion American taxpayers’ dollars of the latest US military equipment – tanks, planes and missiles into Egypt. Everything that will encourage Egypt to start a war with Israel.

According to another memo from Ambassador Scobey dated September 23, 2008 President Mubarak of Egypt “may well be trying to weaken the military” – built up to unwieldy proportions by US diplomats, to insure that Mubarak’s successor will be his “moderate” son – a former banker. An Army several orders of magnitude bigger than anything Egypt could use threatens the civilian leadership of Egypt, and the Egyptians seem to know it.

Of course, the prospects that Egypt will be taken over the radical Muslim Brotherhood is not at all unlikely. What do you imagine this radical Islamic group will then do with the vast military colossus that the US has built up over the years?

What “role” is Egypt being groomed for? The target in sight is Israel. Why on earth would American diplomats want to encourage Egypt to start a war with Israel? Particularly in light of the damage that will accrue to both countries?

The nefarious answer can be found in the US State Department doctrine as formed by Henry Kissinger. The historical record strongly indicates (awaiting confirmation from Wikileaks) that Kissinger encouraged President Sadat of Egypt to mount a secret attack on October 6, 1973 – Yom Kippur, declaring war on Israel. Kissinger then sought to delay American resupply of weapons, ammunition and spare parts to Israel. Kissinger is on record having said he wanted “Israel to be ‘bloodied’ so they would be more receptive to Kissinger’s grandiose Machiavellian “peace plans”. It is known that in the early days of the 1973 “Yom Kippur” war, Secretary of State Kissinger told Defense Secretary James Schlesinger “the best result would be that Israel would come out a “little” ahead but get “bloodied in the process”.

Israel lost thousands of lives and subsequently surrendered the strategic buffer zone of the Sinai Peninsula – in exchange for a “cold peace” with an Egypt that has been rearming itself to the teeth.

(The fact that Kissinger is ‘genetically’ Jewish is irrelevant. The interesting psychological phenomenon of “self-hating” Jews is well-known. These sorts of Jews are so traumatized by anti-Semitism that they actually become anti-Semitic themselves – known psychologically as “identification with the aggressor”. These Jews can turn on their own people in a most vicious, sometimes lethal manner. The recently released batch of tapes from the Nixon White House, as reported by the New York Times, report Henry Kissinger – an erstwhile Jew saying: “If they put Jews into gas chambers in the Soviet Union, it is not an American concern”. A classic case of self-hate.)

Apparently the US State Department, with its well known pro-Arab/Muslim, anti-Israel leanings, very much liked this idea of Israel getting “bloodied”. They may try to explain it as some kind of warped diplomacy – but is just vicious Jew-hatred in another guise.

Other officials can also join in Jew-hatred. Why do you think Secretary of Defense Caspar Weinberger was so upset with Jonathan Pollard when Pollard let the Israelis know that Iraq was planning on hitting them with poison gas? Weinberger also wanted Israel to get “bloodied” (or gassed in this case). On the first night of the 1991 Iraq War, Desert Storm, Saddam Hussein bombed Israel with SCUD missiles and the Israelis sat with their children in plastic-sealed rooms with gas masks. At 3:59 AM Caspar Weinberger was interviewed on Israeli radio saying: “What a shame that Saddam is bombing Israel with nerve gas.” How did he know Saddam had SCUDs with poison gas?

Now we see that the US is trying to set up a situation where Egypt attacks Israel. How many would die on both sides? 10,000? 100,000? The diplomats don’t really care. Nor do they care if the Muslim Brotherhood takes over in Egypt. Imagine how bad that would be for US global interests. A huge Muslim/Arab country with a massive US built military goes over to radical Islam. Iran would seem mild by comparison. Yet, the diplomats behave as if they don’t care! They want to be free to connive their megalomaniacal plans and they still want to see Israel “bloodied”.

The people of the US, led by the American Congress should join with the Egyptians and Israelis to thwart this malevolent scheme. Egypt’s military should be pared down to only what it really needs for defense. Why hasn’t the annual $2Billion worth of needless military aid to Egypt been converted into civilian food aid so that Egypt stays stable, particularly in light of the devastating food riots they have experienced? Because these US diplomats still want Egypt to attack Israel – no matter how much damage Egypt will cause Israel and incur by Israel’s retaliatory defense. These diplomats are reckless despite the damage to America’s interests.
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12/29/2010 05:07 PM
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Hopefully they do join Hezbollah, Syria and Iran and wipe out Israel.
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12/29/2010 05:12 PM
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It will never happen
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12/29/2010 05:13 PM
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It will never happen
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 297520


I would not shed a tear if it did.
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12/29/2010 05:14 PM
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Hopefully they do join Hezbollah, Syria and Iran and wipe out Israel.
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Israel's Military can wipe all of them off the map at the same time.
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12/29/2010 05:14 PM
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Re: US WANTS Egypt to attack Israel
I want Madagascar to attack Lichtenstein
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12/29/2010 05:15 PM
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I not a fan of Israel, but remember what happend the last time Egypt did that ?
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12/29/2010 05:17 PM
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you know this is bsflag when you see the word "wikileaks"


sooooo

what we know is that Israel would like the world to believe that the US is trying to provoke Egypt into attacking Israel.

Why?
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I not a fan of Israel, but remember what happend the last time Egypt did that ?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1198592

This time they have US military hardware.
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12/29/2010 05:19 PM
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I not a fan of Israel, but remember what happend the last time Egypt did that ?

This time they have US military hardware.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1210762


And American help to make sure that Israel's free American war toys won't work?
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One of the signs of a pending Messianic Era is an Egyptian civil war:

"The burden against Egypt. Behold, the Lord rides on a swift cloud, and will come into Egypt; the idols of Egypt will totter at His presence, and the heart of Egypt will melt in its midst. “I will set Egyptians against Egyptians; everyone will fight against his brother, and everyone against his neighbor, city against city, kingdom against kingdom. The spirit of Egypt will fail in its midst; I will destroy their counsel, and they will consult the idols and the charmers, the mediums and the sorcerers. And the Egyptians I will give into the hand of a cruel master, and a fierce king will rule over them,” says the Lord, the Lord of hosts." (Isaiah 19)

followed by Egypt joining Gog and Magog to attack Israel:

"This is the plague with which the LORD will strike all the nations that fought against Jerusalem: Their flesh will rot while they are still standing on their feet, their eyes will rot in their sockets, and their tongues will rot in their mouths. On that day people will be stricken by the LORD with great panic. They will seize each other by the hand and attack one another. 14 Judah too will fight at Jerusalem. The wealth of all the surrounding nations will be collected—great quantities of gold and silver and clothing. A similar plague will strike the horses and mules, the camels and donkeys, and all the animals in those camps. Then the survivors from all the nations that have attacked Jerusalem will go up year after year to worship the King, the LORD Almighty, and to celebrate the Festival of Tabernacles. If any of the peoples of the earth do not go up to Jerusalem to worship the King, the LORD Almighty, they will have no rain. If the Egyptian people do not go up and take part, they will have no rain. The LORD will bring on them the plague he inflicts on the nations that do not go up to celebrate the Festival of Tabernacles. This will be the punishment of Egypt and the punishment of all the nations that do not go up to celebrate the Festival of Tabernacles." (Zechariah 14)
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Why is it, that anything that goes off around the world; Israel automatically gets the blame. Just to remind everyone. Israel has a lot of enemies in the Middle East, and Israel is the only Democracy within the Middle East.

With Israel having a Mediterranean coastline, technically should make it eligible to join the European Union and NATO for its protection and security.
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12/29/2010 07:18 PM
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Why is it, that anything that goes off around the world; Israel automatically gets the blame. Just to remind everyone. Israel has a lot of enemies in the Middle East, and Israel is the only Democracy within the Middle East.

With Israel having a Mediterranean coastline, technically should make it eligible to join the European Union and NATO for its protection and security.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1060442

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It's DO:OM o'clock. WAKE UP!
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Why is it, that anything that goes off around the world; Israel automatically gets the blame. Just to remind everyone. Israel has a lot of enemies in the Middle East, and Israel is the only Democracy within the Middle East.

With Israel having a Mediterranean coastline, technically should make it eligible to join the European Union and NATO for its protection and security.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1060442


Lebanon, Syria, Egypt, Libya, and a bunch of other places have a Mediterranean coastline too.

So the EU and NATO should be defending them as well, right?
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12/29/2010 07:32 PM
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Reporting from Cairo — — Egypt's decision Tuesday to open its border with the Gaza Strip after Israel's deadly raid on an aid flotilla highlights the difficult position Cairo faces in its uncomfortable relationship with the coastal enclave.

The government of President Hosni Mubarak had closed the border for all but a few days each month in an effort to weaken the militant group Hamas, which controls the strip. Much of the Arab world assails that policy as capitulation to U.S. and Israeli interest at the expense of Gaza's 1.5 million long-suffering residents.

[link to articles.latimes.com]

The US and Israel are always complaining that Egypt is too soft on the Palestinians and needs to completely blockade anything from crossing over their shared border.

So the emerging security threat is Hamas. Which I could say more about but I fear the audience is too entrenched in groupthink to be able to assimilate the information.
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bump
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Why is it, that anything that goes off around the world; Israel automatically gets the blame. Just to remind everyone. Israel has a lot of enemies in the Middle East, and Israel is the only Democracy within the Middle East.

With Israel having a Mediterranean coastline, technically should make it eligible to join the European Union and NATO for its protection and security.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1060442


Lebanon, Syria, Egypt, Libya, and a bunch of other places have a Mediterranean coastline too.

So the EU and NATO should be defending them as well, right?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1210357


Sounds perfectly reasonable to me. Goofy Thum

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