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Here is Matt 7 passage:

21. Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.

22. Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?
23. And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.


24. Therefore whosoever heareth these sayings of mine, and doeth them, I will liken him unto a wise man, which built his house upon a rock:
25. And the rain descended, and the floods came, and the winds blew, and beat upon that house; and it fell not: for it was founded upon a rock.
26. And every one that heareth these sayings of mine, and doeth them not, shall be likened unto a foolish man, which built his house upon the sand:
27. And the rain descended, and the floods came, and the winds blew, and beat upon that house; and it fell: and great was the fall of it.


28. And it came to pass, when Jesus had ended these sayings, the people were astonished at his doctrine:
29. For he taught them as one having authority, and not as the scribes.


Knowledge results from Knowing The Father, being able to witness what you have Seen and Know. Witnessing God's Word conveys authority. Heed or disregard as your carnal-heart pleases. Just know that you have heard that God The Father Will Receive your surrender, if offered from a true and sincere heart. Know too that nothing else matters in the course of your life except that if you Truly Love Christ Jesus, you take action and offer yourself Unto The Father. If you Know and Love Christ Jesus, it is for this purpose you were born...

Praise HIS Name!
Maranatha!!!
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Praise The Holy Of Holy :: The only reason knowledge is expanding so fast is we are funding things we didn't know at a faster rate now !! Just imagine what we don't know yet ! Then exam the smugness of those they think know much !! Praise Jesus for the opportunity to begin to learn from the Master !!Praise The Lamb:: Amen
Holy, holy,holy, Lord God Almighty, which was, and is, and is to come.Praise the one who gives you peace beyond all understanding Yes that scripture still sounds good !
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I thank everyone for their contributions to the thread and for keeping it "clean".... for the most part. hf
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In the "mind" of DNA Prototype, God doesn't exist, and is a non-issue, and yet he is unable to tear himself away threads that hold opportunities for attacking Christian beliefs.

There is another force at work here. One that inspires tenacity, and relentlessness, in pursuing a "non-issue".




* Of course, he'll just tell you it's because he's "bored"... wink...wink. Just like The Guy.
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i find this to be true... any hint of a Christian post and they come in packs to nip at the ankles and foam at the mouth. when i see a thread on something that is far from anything i would subscribe to, the last thing i do is log on there and start bashing everyone in the room.

i don't get it... well, actually i do get it, but it is so interesting to see it in your face.
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In the "mind" of DNA Prototype, God doesn't exist, and is a non-issue, and yet he is unable to tear himself away threads that hold opportunities for attacking Christian beliefs.

There is another force at work here. One that inspires tenacity, and relentlessness, in pursuing a "non-issue".




* Of course, he'll just tell you it's because he's "bored"... wink...wink. Just like The Guy.


i find this to be true... any hint of a Christian post and they come in packs to nip at the ankles and foam at the mouth. when i see a thread on something that is far from anything i would subscribe to, the last thing i do is log on there and start bashing everyone in the room.

i don't get it... well, actually i do get it, but it is so interesting to see it in your face.
 Quoting: Salt & Light

Yep, I get it, too. There is something attractive here, else why would they keep coming back?

(And good morning S/L!)
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with such a short time left you are wasting it on foolishness.
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There is much in life to distract, deceive, and delude, A/C. You no nothing about me, yet, you condemn me. You think your "truth" is the most important thing in the world, yet you spend ALL your time alienating your potential listeners!!

You actions speak loudly for you A/C.
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Religion is the systematic attempt at focusing man’s consciousness. Comparative religion should concern itself less with the exoteric and academic differences and more with studying the different levels of consciousness turned on by each religion.
We see that there are seven approaches employed by the great world religions. Seven dialects of God:
1. Buddhism attempts to transcend life and cellular manifestations and to strive toward the white light of the void, the unitary atomic-electronic flash beyond form.
2. Hinduism is a vegetative jungle of reincarnation imagery. Clearly cellular. Evolutionary. Genetic.
3. Tantra (Tibetan, Bengali) focuses on somatic energy (Kundalini) and chakra consciousness.
4. Zen, Hasidic Judaism, Sufism, and early Christianity used methods for centering sensual energy.
5. Protestantism and Talmudic Judaism are the classic ego religions. Logic, hard work and Main Street practicality will get you to heaven.
6. Middle-class Catholicism and devil-oriented fundamentalist sects are based on the arousal of emotion — fear.
7. Suicide and Death Cults
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8. Learning to live in the Father's affection is so vastly different from the other seven that it is incomprehensible to many.
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with such a short time left you are wasting it on foolishness.

There is much in life to distract, deceive, and delude, A/C. You no nothing about me, yet, you condemn me. You think your "truth" is the most important thing in the world, yet you spend ALL your time alienating your potential listeners!!

You actions speak loudly for you A/C.
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Jesus saved the murderer on the cross at the last moment!
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If you are spiritually minded and a Christ follower...

I don't think you can be spiritually minded and a christ follower. Followers are NOT spiritual. They are followers... believers... in other words, NOT looking into their own inner wonder... but believing what someone else says.

Followers are, sorry to say, just followers.... their spiritual journey has stopped and they are stuck in their beliefs.....


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I will repeat what I said above. You must be speaking of your own experience, because you are not speaking of mine.

If you think you are speaking of mine -- someone who is only a few pixels on a computer screen -- then you have no credibility in what you say and as a consequence have lost all credibility with me on other matters.
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i don't get it... well, actually i do get it, but it is so interesting to see it in your face.

Yep, I get it, too. There is something attractive here, else why would they keep coming back?

(And good morning S/L!)
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good morning to you L/L...

about the topic.... i knew it would end up like this. you have posted a scripture reference, and a perfect one... so we will have to weed through the establishing of the basis for your post first before the topic can be discussed. maybe the topic is obvious enough that it doesn't really merit a deep conversation. so, as we muddle through the attacks, the topic is not being ignored, but established.

thanks for a great thread
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... people are afraid of love ...

I agree. Some will learn to love others, but that's the easy part. The hard part is opening your heart to receive the love of someone else.

When we give love, we remain in control: we decide who to love, when to love, how much to love... and even when to stop loving.

But when we receive love, we have to relinquish control and become vulnerable. That's extremely hard to do.

And if it's hard to do with other people, imagine how difficult it is for someone new to faith to "open up" to receive God's love.
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whoa! got me thinking!
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Thank you A/C. This realization has been one of the most profound of my life.
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Good post, OP!

I see a lot of folks here have missed the real point. Well, maybe I shouldn't say that. As I see it though, God gave us the ability to acquire and retain knowledge. It's the way knowledge is used that makes it right or wrong.
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Thank you CeeJay.

I'm not sure I had any "point" other than to get people thinking, and I believe I succeeded in that.

Knowledge itself is neutral. The fact that knowledge has increased since the Book of Daniel is written istrue.

We have more scriptural knowledge, doctrine, and theology than anyone in Scriptural times ever had, yet, the major of people remain either deceived, distracted, or deluded.
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so you don't think a global emp attack would kill knowledge. Everything we know is on computers. Little modern post 90s technological knowledge is in books. If an emp killed all electronics it would take decades or a century to get back to where we are now. Then as we died offthe newborns would have no knowledge of the tech that was electronic only. It can decrease. It may.
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Time for a technical comment, as you have tapped into my area of expertise:

EMP will definitely not "kill" all electronics. A cell phone in my shirt pocket would probably not be affected by a high altitude electromagnetic pulse. It is when our electronic devices are connected to stuff that acts as low frequency antennas (power lines, phone lines, cable TV, internet, house wiring, etc.) that significant energy is delivered to damage a device... and then it's a statistical thing: some things will be damaged, some only upset that require a restart, and to some nothing will happen at all.
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good morning to you L/L...

about the topic.... i knew it would end up like this. you have posted a scripture reference, and a perfect one... so we will have to weed through the establishing of the basis for your post first before the topic can be discussed. maybe the topic is obvious enough that it doesn't really merit a deep conversation. so, as we muddle through the attacks, the topic is not being ignored, but established.

thanks for a great thread
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You're welcome S/L!

Threads are like ocean waves. We don't create waves, but we can ride them. And we ride them for all they're worth, because we know all waves eventually die out.

Same with threads. They take on a life of their own, and we ride them for all they're worth while we can. We also recognize that they will eventually die, and we go looking for the next one to ride.

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life and love and salt and light, maybe this needs to be addressed
some several thousand years before the existence of the language our bible was written in there existed a belief within every human culture that a male messiah/king would form to return humankind to a lifestyle that was previously universally enjoyed

In the following years a number of scholars, each focusing on different bodies of evidence, reached the same conclusion. The controversial and erratic Gerald Massey, in two large works (The Natural Genesis and Ancient Egypt: The Light of the World), claimed that the religion and mythology of a polar god was first formulated by the priest-astronomers of ancient Egypt and spread from Egypt to the rest of the world.

In a general survey of ancient language, symbolism, and mythology, John O'Neill (Night of the Gods, two volumes) insisted that mankind's oldest religions centered on a god of the celestial pole.

The renowned Mesoamerican authority, Zelia Nuttall, in Fundamental Principles of Old and New World Civilization, undertook an extensive review of New World astronomical themes, concluding that the highest god was polar. From Mexico she shifted to other civilizations, finding the same unexpected role of a polar god.

Reinforcing the surprising conclusions of these researchers was the subsequent work of others, among them the noted Finno-Ugric authority, Uno Holmberg (Der Baum Des Lebens), who documented the preeminence of the polar god in the ritual of Altaic and neighboring peoples, suggesting ancient origins in Hindu and Mesopotamian cosmologies; Léopold de Saussure (Les Origines de l;'Astronomie Chinoise), who showed that primitive Chinese religion and astronomy honor the celestial pole as the home of the supreme "monarch" of the sky; René Guenon (Le Roi du Monde and Le Symbolisme de la Croix), who sought to outline a universal doctrine centering on the polar gods and principles of ancient man.
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i am not sure why i am prompted to say this other than metatron`s demand of it`s manifestation

one way or another
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life and love and salt and light, maybe this needs to be addressed
some several thousand years before the existence of the language our bible was written in there existed a belief within every human culture that a male messiah/king would form to return humankind to a lifestyle that was previously universally enjoyed

In the following years a number of scholars, each focusing on different bodies of evidence, reached the same conclusion. The controversial and erratic Gerald Massey, in two large works (The Natural Genesis and Ancient Egypt: The Light of the World), claimed that the religion and mythology of a polar god was first formulated by the priest-astronomers of ancient Egypt and spread from Egypt to the rest of the world.

In a general survey of ancient language, symbolism, and mythology, John O'Neill (Night of the Gods, two volumes) insisted that mankind's oldest religions centered on a god of the celestial pole.

The renowned Mesoamerican authority, Zelia Nuttall, in Fundamental Principles of Old and New World Civilization, undertook an extensive review of New World astronomical themes, concluding that the highest god was polar. From Mexico she shifted to other civilizations, finding the same unexpected role of a polar god.

Reinforcing the surprising conclusions of these researchers was the subsequent work of others, among them the noted Finno-Ugric authority, Uno Holmberg (Der Baum Des Lebens), who documented the preeminence of the polar god in the ritual of Altaic and neighboring peoples, suggesting ancient origins in Hindu and Mesopotamian cosmologies; Léopold de Saussure (Les Origines de l;'Astronomie Chinoise), who showed that primitive Chinese religion and astronomy honor the celestial pole as the home of the supreme "monarch" of the sky; René Guenon (Le Roi du Monde and Le Symbolisme de la Croix), who sought to outline a universal doctrine centering on the polar gods and principles of ancient man.

i am not sure why i am prompted to say this other than metatron`s demand of it`s manifestation

one way or another
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ty, aether... many prophecies of Jesus came very early on from the ancient religions. Even Buddha spoke in great detail about Jesus' birth, purpose and death.
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... people are afraid of love ...

I agree. Some will learn to love others, but that's the easy part. The hard part is opening your heart to receive the love of someone else.

When we give love, we remain in control: we decide who to love, when to love, how much to love... and even when to stop loving.

But when we receive love, we have to relinquish control and become vulnerable. That's extremely hard to do.

And if it's hard to do with other people, imagine how difficult it is for someone new to faith to "open up" to receive God's love.




whoa! got me thinking!


Thank you A/C. This realization has been one of the most profound of my life.
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What is "surrender"?
Is it not similar to what is described above?
Yet, the poster has no Knowledge of being Born-Again, but states it succinctly. "Open up to receive God". Rather like a virginal matrimonial situation; not Knowing what to expect... Might ask others, read, or decide whatever you choose about the "experience" but until you know; you don't.

Yet, there is no Coming Unto The Father by mental rationalization or "thinking". Can't decide by some Cartesian or Aristotelian examination process that you can Trust God Fully with your life. The carnal-heart defends self; always and in all ways.

Jesus' Witness in Matt ch 13 where HE States That He Employs Parables to prevent people from understanding mentally. It is Heartfelt-Understanding that God seeks to Enable.

God does not want your mind, but rather your heart!

Is "trust" a mentally decided thing, or one that comes to us by instinct and feeling? Why does Jesus Witness, again in Matt 13 about "seeing they see not, hearing they hear not"?
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Yet, the poster has no Knowledge of being Born-Again, but states it succinctly. "Open up to receive God".
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Lester, you're a real piece of work! You really have no idea what Jesus is like, do you?
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Matt ch 13:
13. Therefore speak I to them in parables: because they seeing see not; and hearing they hear not, neither do they understand.
14. And in them is fulfilled the prophecy of Esaias, which saith, By hearing ye shall hear, and shall not understand; and seeing ye shall see, and shall not perceive:

15. For this people's heart is waxed gross, and their ears are dull of hearing, and their eyes they have closed; lest at any time they should see with their eyes, and hear with their ears, and should understand with their heart, and should be converted, and I should heal them.

16. But blessed are your eyes, for they see: and your ears, for they hear.
17. For verily I say unto you, That many prophets and righteous men have desired to see those things which ye see, and have not seen them; and to hear those things which ye hear, and have not heard them.


Jesus Witnesses the above and then explains The Parable of The Sower to HIS Apostles
18. Hear ye therefore the parable of the sower.
19. When any one heareth the word of the kingdom, and understandeth it not, then cometh the wicked one, and catcheth away that which was sown in his heart. This is he which received seed by the way side.
20. But he that received the seed into stony places, the same is he that heareth the word, and anon with joy receiveth it;
21. Yet hath he not root in himself, but dureth for a while: for when tribulation or persecution ariseth because of the word, by and by he is offended.
22. He also that received seed among the thorns is he that heareth the word; and the care of this world, and the deceitfulness of riches, choke the word, and he becometh unfruitful.
23. But he that received seed into the good ground is he that heareth the word, and understandeth it; which also beareth fruit, and bringeth forth, some an hundredfold, some sixty, some thirty.



Not many will Hear The Gospel with their heart, Trust God and Take Action...

The crux of HIS Born-Again Witness to Nicodemus is John 3:14 that we must "Lift Up The Son Of Man".
1. There was a man of the Pharisees, named Nicodemus, a ruler of the Jews:
2. The same came to Jesus by night, and said unto him, Rabbi, we know that thou art a teacher come from God: for no man can do these miracles that thou doest, except God be with him.
3. Jesus answered and said unto him, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God.
4. Nicodemus saith unto him, How can a man be born when he is old? can he enter the second time into his mother's womb, and be born?
5. Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God.
6. That which is born of the flesh is flesh; and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit.
7. Marvel not that I said unto thee, Ye must be born again.
8. The wind bloweth where it listeth, and thou hearest the sound thereof, but canst not tell whence it cometh, and whither it goeth: so is every one that is born of the Spirit.
9. Nicodemus answered and said unto him, How can these things be?
10. Jesus answered and said unto him, Art thou a master of Israel, and knowest not these things?
11. Verily, verily, I say unto thee, We speak that we do know, and testify that we have seen; and ye receive not our witness.
12. If I have told you earthly things, and ye believe not, how shall ye believe, if I tell you of heavenly things?
13. And no man hath ascended up to heaven, but he that came down from heaven, even the Son of man which is in heaven.
14. And as Moses lifted up the serpent in the wilderness, even so must the Son of man be lifted up:



Nicodemus was in Christ Jesus' immediate presence, but rejected HIS Witness. How is that any different from you on this thread who comment about "the smugness of those they think know much"?

Can't witness and testify that you have been In Father's Presence and made your surrender, thereby HE Gave you HIS New Heart and Enabled you to Know, Keep, and Do HIS Will? Then such is comment on your heart having waxed dull and your being unwilling to Trust HIM Fully and Lift Up The Son Of Man....


Can't "understand" this by rumination or philosophical evaluation. There is no philosophical syllogism to "prove" what your heart can only know through Faith.

Why has surrender been called The Leap Of Faith, and not a leap of reason?

If you have ever been in love and married, did you decide you were in-love by weighing the facts or by trusting your heart? You can give you life to another fallible human being through heartfelt trust, but cannot Trust Infallible And Perfect YahWeh, God The Father, Elohim?

How'd marriage work out for you? If you decided to marry based on analysis of facts? Marriage can have a different meaning to each spouse, but Relationship With God entails Trusting HIM to Always Know what is right for you. Figure that sounds right, but you aren't sure????

God's Will IS Always Perfect!

If you cannot Trust HIM Fully, then I liken you to one of those who were invited to The King's Wedding Feast For HIS Son, but who spurned HIS Invitation. Matt ch 25.

Want to study and ruminate on the idea of Trusting God Fully with your life? Seems logical, right? Carnal-heart always rationalizes why today is not the time to surrender...
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Even Buddha spoke in great detail about Jesus' birth, purpose and death.
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Let's see some proof of that.

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Lester, I probably memorized most all those verses before you were even born.

I'm not looking for your scripture knowledge. I just want you to talk to me about Jesus, OK?

Can you do that?

Don't tell me what you know about Him. Tell me how you know Him.

Now THAT would be a Witness in the truest sense of the word.

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ty, aether... many prophecies of Jesus came very early on from the ancient religions. Even Buddha spoke in great detail about Jesus' birth, purpose and death
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Buddhist views of Jesus differ, since Jesus is not mentioned in any Buddhist text.

Parallels between Buddha and Jesus

Numerous scholars have made parallels between Buddha and Jesus

Although the Buddha's birthday is celebrated in most traditions in May, which relates to the Buddha's mother Maya Devi, there is no early textual evidence to validate this birthday. Others, such as the author of The Angel-Messiah of the Buddhist, Essenes, and Christians, claim, that based on the ancient Indian calendar in use around 600 b.c. the new year of the Indians was November 17, and so the author concludes that since the Buddha was said to be born on the eighth day of the second month that the Buddha's birthday was December 25.
This belief held by Buddhists is validated by certain ancient birth accounts of the Buddha, such as in the Asvaghosha-Kirita the Buddha is described as a descendent of solar kings, who was born when the sun retired; "There the sun, even although he had retired, was unable to scorn the moon-like faces of its women which put the lotuses to shame, and as if from the access of passion, hurried towards the western ocean to enter the (cooling)water". This Buddhist text also compares the birth of the Buddha to the constellation of the seven Rishis, which some have compared to the early Christian art depicting "seven-rays" coming out of a white dove. Others have linked this to the Pali text titled Seven Suns.
It has been asserted that the story of the birth of the Buddha was well known in the West, and possibly influenced the story of the birth of Jesus.
Saint Jerome (4th century CE) mentions the birth of the Buddha, who he says "was born from the side of a virgin" (the Buddha was, according to Buddhist tradition, born from the hip of his mother . The story of the birth of the Buddha was also known: a fragment of Archelaos of Carrha (278 CE) mentions the Buddha's virgin-birth.
In the 1893 book, Influence of Buddhism on Primitive Christianity, Arthur Lillie argues that the birth accounts of the Buddha were copied into the gospels listing the following infancy parallels:
The palm-tree bends down to Mary as the Asoka tree to Yashodara.
The story of Simeon, the accounts of the bright light being almost word for word the same.
The idol bending down to the infant Jesus.
The miracle of the sparrows restored to life.
Judas Iscariot in early life attacked Jesus, just as Devadetta, the Judas of Buddhism, attacked Buddha. A violent blow that Jesus received in the left side made a mark that was destined to be the exact spot that received the mortal spear-thrust at the Crucifixion. [199]
The whole story of the disputation with the doctors seems copied servilely from the “Lalita Vistara.”
Buddhism had invaded Persia, and Maitreya, the coming Buddha, was expected 500 years after Buddha’s death. The Persian Buddhists called him Sosiosh. The Gospel of the Infancy explains the presence of the Magi, which in the Canonical Gospels is quite unintelligible. Why should Persians come with hysterical enthusiasm to greet a Messiah whose chief exploit was to be the slaughter of all Persians and all the other nations except Jews? The “Gospel of the Infancy” announces that Zoroaster had sent them. The Persians mixed up Sakyamuni Buddha, Mithras and Zoroaster and were expecting Sosiosh at the time.
Of course some of these traditions derive from Mahayana Buddhism which developed at the same time as the Gospels and by this some have suggested Christian influence.[citation needed]
Queen Maya came to bear the Buddha after receiving a prophetic dream in which she saw the descent of the Bodhisattva (Buddha-to-be) from the Tuṣita heaven into her womb, in the shape of a small white elephant. This story has some parallels with the story of Jesus being conceived in connection with the visitation of the Holy Spirit to the Virgin Mary.
The classical scene of the Virgin Mary being supported by two attendants at her side, may have been influenced by earlier iconography, such as the rather similar Buddhist theme of Queen Maya giving birth.
The iconography of Mary breastfeeding the child Jesus, unknown in the West until the 5-6th century (probable date of a frieze excavated in Saqqara), has also been connected to the much more ancient iconography of the goddess Hariti, also breastfeeding her child, and wearing Hellenistic clothes in the Greco-Buddhist art of Gandhara.
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where is Neo? i guess his demon has run him right out of here...
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Nope! I went to workout as I usually do.

Look, I am not always on virtual reality (The Internet)

Also, I am still trying to grasp how do you see your God with your "spirit"? Can you describe it (paint it, draw it) for the rest of us!?
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Queen Maya came to bear the Buddha after receiving a prophetic dream in which she saw the descent of the Bodhisattva (Buddha-to-be) ...
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Aether, have you read Shantideva's "The Way of the Bodhisattva?" Pema Chodron has a modern version that's quite accessible.

"Bodhisattva" is one of the most beautiful words I have ever run across. "Awakened/enlightened spirit/heart/being." When I read Jesus' words "You are the 'light' of the world," I immediately think of sattva.
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Even Buddha spoke in great detail about Jesus' birth, purpose and death.



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Let's see some proof of that.
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ok... this should get you started:

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guru said: "Well, I do know that the cosmos et al is a multi-verse and not just a uni-verse..."

You don't "know" jack spit.

LOL... What a pompous ass.
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Poor "Coward" soul! :(
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Also, I am still trying to grasp how do you see your God with your "spirit"? Can you describe it (paint it, draw it) for the rest of us!?
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Don't know where S&L is, so I'll take a crack at responding your question.

The question seems simple but really isn't because we tend to want to use the tools that are useful in the physical domain (senses like sight, sound, touch, analysis, etc.) for things in the spiritual domain. We really do need to make a "domain shift" to really "get" these things. Some people call this being "born again." I tend to avoid church-speak.

So bear with me and this analogy: How do you navigate underwater? You can't use the skills we learned to navigate on dry land. Speech is unintelligible; walking is difficult; running is nearly impossible. These land-domain tools don't help us in navigating underwater.

To navigate underwater, you have to swim of course! But while you can learn all about swimming while on dry land, the only way to know how to swim is to take the plunge.

Now, that isn't an "answer," but maybe it will help everyone along in the process by realizing that the "answer" won't ever "make sense" in the physical realm.

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Yet, the poster has no Knowledge of being Born-Again, but states it succinctly. "Open up to receive God".

Lester, you're a real piece of work! You really have no idea what Jesus is like, do you?
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Lover,

Why can't you Trust God Fully with your own life?
I Know Christ Jesus to be The Way Unto The Father.
Jesus Serves HIS Father's Will, as do i.

I am not the one who cites Daniel rather than The Witness of Christ Jesus, as you did to begin this thread. I have never "trolled for souls" on this or any other board, but if you would identify yourself as Ezekiel 36 Born-Again, I would really question your truthfulness.

You think you Know anything Of-God? Why not witness it?
Except, you actually haven't; have you?


Doesn't matter to me what you and your other carnal-hearted Hebrews 12 buddy/biddies on this thread have decided to agree upon. All that matters is your witness Of-HIM, what you Know and have Seen. Can't or won't witness how you Came Unto The Father and were Given what you claim? That is your business, but does not ring True with me.

These are The Final Moments.
No pussy-footing around by God's People; the Ezekiel 36 Born-Agains who comprise "the very elect". Yet, there is no witness here from you or others on this thread. 15 some-odd pages of feel-good conjecture, but no "meat".

I recognize rationalization and conjecture, plus posturing and posing for what it is. Also Know the defensiveness of the Hebrews 12 Bastard(s)... Those who claim HIM but refuse HIS Chastisement and Correction. Christian witness can be just that, and it bridles, chastens those who remain In-self but pose to be seekers or have set themselves up as persons of sufficient understanding to teach, minister, or preach.

Pretty easy to see those who can't confess Jesus Christ are rather out of place on a Christian Discussion thread, but the snakes in the grass who give false-witness based on their own conjecture are actually anti-Christ and must be identified as such. Would that be you?
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You think you Know anything Of-God? Why not witness it?
Except, you actually haven't; have you?

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It is I who asked you about Jesus as I recall. Why are you avoiding me and hiding behind a wall of words? Either you know Him or you don't. And if you don't know Him, you have no Witness of Him.

I think that's the case, actually, Lester.
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Yet, the poster has no Knowledge of being Born-Again, but states it succinctly. "Open up to receive God".

Lester, you're a real piece of work! You really have no idea what Jesus is like, do you?
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I don't know what Jesus is like either since I have not met him!!!
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