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And a Happy New Year to you 2!

This was an amazing thread!
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Actually, Knowledge Of God's Will, Being Enabled To Live/Keep HIS Statutes is not "very much personal" or individual. Such cannot be!

But you don't KNOW that. You offer conjecture.


..and you offer "religious" BS!

Look dude, you and your "invisible" God do not speak for me since my God is very much "personal"! So wake up!!!

Either case, who the "hell" are you to know what can or cannot be!?

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 Quoting: wirelessguru1



Neo,

How trite, not only your avatar...
Also trite is your carnal idea of "my God is very much personal". Should we play Rage Against The Machine?

Unable to understand that "religion" is not Scriptural? Jesus didn't found a "church" or "denomination". HE IS The Way Unto The Father. It is upon the rock of Knowing (WHO HE IS) that HE Founds HIS Church matt 16-18. Yet, church in HIS Context is a gathering of those who have been Entrusted To HIM By The Father. Have to KNOW WHO HE IS.... Do you? Did you, even as a child, Know HIM to be God The Son?

Never?

You ask: "...who the "hell" are you to know what can or cannot be!?"

I was a sinner who had reached the end of his road, and decided to give my life Unconditionally and without reservation to God, for HIM To Do With as HE Saw Fit. My prayer was heartfelt, sincere and true; God Did Accept my offering and I Knew at once I was Accepted and had Been In HIS Presence.

I witness what I have Seen and Know Of-HIM in my life.

There is only ONE Living God, The Trinity of Father, Son, and Holy Spirit. There is no "personal God" as you believe. HE IS The Same and Constant with all persons who are HIS. Each Relationship will differ in some aspects, but all who Know HIM, witness The Same Truth and Came Into Relationship With HIM The Same Way; by surrender, by making their Leap Of Faith...
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Neo,

How trite, not only your avatar...
Also trite is your carnal idea of "my God is very much personal". Should we play Rage Against The Machine?

Unable to understand that "religion" is not Scriptural? Jesus didn't found a "church" or "denomination". HE IS The Way Unto The Father. It is upon the rock of Knowing (WHO HE IS) that HE Founds HIS Church matt 16-18. Yet, church in HIS Context is a gathering of those who have been Entrusted To HIM By The Father. Have to KNOW WHO HE IS.... Do you? Did you, even as a child, Know HIM to be God The Son?

Never?
 Quoting: Lester


Sorry Lester, but I have not met your Jesus!

Where are you hiding it!?

So play whatever games you want to play!!!

You ask: "...who the "hell" are you to know what can or cannot be!?"

I was a sinner who had reached the end of his road, and decided to give my life Unconditionally and without reservation to God, for HIM To Do With as HE Saw Fit. My prayer was heartfelt, sincere and true; God Did Accept my offering and I Knew at once I was Accepted and had Been In HIS Presence.

I witness what I have Seen and Know Of-HIM in my life.

There is only ONE Living God, The Trinity of Father, Son, and Holy Spirit. There is no "personal God" as you believe. HE IS The Same and Constant with all persons who are HIS. Each Relationship will differ in some aspects, but all who Know HIM, witness The Same Truth and Came Into Relationship With HIM The Same Way; by surrender, by making their Leap Of Faith...
 Quoting: Lester


..and what God is that!?

Where is he "living" and is he also hiding with your Jesus!?

..and yet again, who in the HELL are you to tell me that there is no personal God!?

BTW, Trinity loves Neo and Neo loves Trinity. Can you grasp that!?

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Rex Khristos

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Most of what is written about faith in religious books miss the mark because the word itself is not understood. In modern English “faith” means believing in something for which there is no substantial proof. But the Greek word pistis, used in the New Testament, means stability in personal knowledge drawn from one’s own experience. It also means to be loyal to that knowledge by living in accordance with it. Pistis also means to be confident in our experiential knowledge. Faith cannot be “awakened” in a person by reading books, listening to discourses, or engaging in discussions. It comes only from within, from his own self. Saint Paul underlined this when he wrote that “faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen.”2 Note that he says substance and evidence. Faith is not an insubstantial idea. This is no matter of mere intellectual acceptance or emotional hope. Faith is proof that a person has experienced the reality of something; it is not a mere conviction based on reason or feeling.


So the exercise of faith is actual seeking of the Kingdom (Reality) and facing of Gods justice (harmony with Law of Truth) because you KNOW God Is. I think it can be done by just belief (and they were said to be even more blessed) but perhaps more difficult.

In practical terms it is facing and reversing the inertia of false perception (neuron pathway trees that have become "rutted") "Sit still and know God" but it's going to take energy to do it so in terms of the initiations one should have a grasp of completing the second, mastery of emotions to the point that the heart becomes a receiving capacitor of Love and over coming the internal obstacles to it full rise with ones being...easier said than done.

But as a colloquialism, the leap of faith comes in at night after a month fasting in the woods, willing not to fall asleep, wrestling to keep yourself conscious and become Conscious because you Know, and that fact occults the peace found in a normal life, but you've seen glimpses of Truth and paths of light through the darkness and will not accept anything less and so you wrestle for it like Jacob in self crucifixion like Jesus and pray like Isaac under the knife of Abraham that God is God and does not abandon us and is worthy of worship and praise as Ever Faithful Merciful and Magnanimous and the conquering of all thoughts to the contrary.

And in Fruition, faith is no longer needed.

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The flea floating down the river bellows, "Raise the drawbridge".

Self has nothing to do with God, not until you choose to Trust HIM Fully.

Not all are called to Know Christ Jesus.
Such is The Will Of The Father.

What is a Christian Discussion thread to those who have no awareness of Christ?
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Self has nothing to do with God, not until you choose to Trust HIM Fully.

Not all are called to Know Christ Jesus.
Such is The Will Of The Father.

What is a Christian Discussion thread to those who have no awareness of Christ?
 Quoting: Lester

Trust who/whom???

Well, and the way that I see it you and your God are false, fake!!!

..and why is this a Christian Discussion thread!?
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Actually, Knowledge Of God's Will, Being Enabled To Live/Keep HIS Statutes is not "very much personal" or individual. Such cannot be!

But you don't KNOW that. You offer conjecture.


..and you offer "religious" BS!

Look dude, you and your "invisible" God do not speak for me since my God is very much "personal"! So wake up!!!

Either case, who the "hell" are you to know what can or cannot be!?

+1 (Neo)
 Quoting: wirelessguru1

have you ever considered that it is 'invisible' exactly because you can get to Him only 'in person', going personally to Him trough the 'secret' gates of your personal heart, not through anyone's else?...
End than you consider the notion that ALL IS actually The Expressions of Oneness...
And bingo! it gives the basic faculties for starting to read the Bible, which I should do too; but mostly waste my time here.
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Actually, Knowledge Of God's Will, Being Enabled To Live/Keep HIS Statutes is not "very much personal" or individual. Such cannot be!

But you don't KNOW that. You offer conjecture.


..and you offer "religious" BS!

Look dude, you and your "invisible" God do not speak for me since my God is very much "personal"! So wake up!!!

Either case, who the "hell" are you to know what can or cannot be!?

+1 (Neo)

have you ever considered that it is 'invisible' exactly because you can get to Him only 'in person', going personally to Him trough the 'secret' gates of your personal heart, not through anyone's else?...
End than you consider the notion that ALL IS actually The Expressions of Oneness...
And bingo! it gives the basic faculties for starting to read the Bible, which I should do too; but mostly waste my time here.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1208364

Having said that I still think that the Invisible is along with The One who is Inconceivable and Unknowable.
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A relative had a dream in the 80's in which he was "taken" up by an angel into space and given an aerial view of the world. He saw towers being erected in the US and UK and between them a spider web was formed. Within seconds, these towers were everywhere and the "spider web" encompassed the globe. He didn't know what these towers were (there was no internet or cell phones to speak of at that time) so he asked the angel what he was seeing.

The angel responded with this..."This is the fulfilling of the Tree of Knowledge of Good and Evil."

When my relative stated to me the angel's interpretation in his dream, he asked me to look on the back of my laptop and tell him what I saw. There was the MacIntosh Computer logo...THE APPLE WITH THE BITE TAKEN OUT OF IT! The universal symbol for mankind's act of rebellion in the Garden of Eden...Hidden in PLAIN VIEW!

damned
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Wow i never noticed the apple with the bit out of it before like u said it was in plain view. Sometihng you see all the time but never think about makes you wonder what else is in plain view that had a double meaning that we don't think about or see.
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Most of what is written about faith in religious books miss the mark because the word itself is not understood. In modern English “faith” means believing in something for which there is no substantial proof. But the Greek word pistis, used in the New Testament, means stability in personal knowledge drawn from one’s own experience. It also means to be loyal to that knowledge by living in accordance with it. Pistis also means to be confident in our experiential knowledge. Faith cannot be “awakened” in a person by reading books, listening to discourses, or engaging in discussions. It comes only from within, from his own self. Saint Paul underlined this when he wrote that “faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen.”2 Note that he says substance and evidence. Faith is not an insubstantial idea. This is no matter of mere intellectual acceptance or emotional hope. Faith is proof that a person has experienced the reality of something; it is not a mere conviction based on reason or feeling.


So the exercise of faith is actual seeking of the Kingdom (Reality) and facing of Gods justice (harmony with Law of Truth) because you KNOW God Is. I think it can be done by just belief (and they were said to be even more blessed) but perhaps more difficult.

In practical terms it is facing and reversing the inertia of false perception (neuron pathway trees that have become "rutted") "Sit still and know God" but it's going to take energy to do it so in terms of the initiations one should have a grasp of completing the second, mastery of emotions to the point that the heart becomes a receiving capacitor of Love and over coming the internal obstacles to it full rise with ones being...easier said than done.

But as a colloquialism, the leap of faith comes in at night after a month fasting in the woods, willing not to fall asleep, wrestling to keep yourself conscious and become Conscious because you Know, and that fact occults the peace found in a normal life, but you've seen glimpses of Truth and paths of light through the darkness and will not accept anything less and so you wrestle for it like Jacob in self crucifixion like Jesus and pray like Isaac under the knife of Abraham that God is God and does not abandon us and is worthy of worship and praise as Ever Faithful Merciful and Magnanimous and the conquering of all thoughts to the contrary.
 Quoting: Rex


captures the scale of mistranslation

awareness of which manifest within our globalising information age
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have you ever considered that it is 'invisible' exactly because you can get to Him only 'in person', going personally to Him trough the 'secret' gates of your personal heart, not through anyone's else?...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1208364


Yeap.

Also, that's exactly why I've said many times before that
God = I AM

which, of course is very much "personal".

I am, therefore, I am.

Can you grasp that?

End than you consider the notion that ALL IS actually The Expressions of Oneness...
And bingo! it gives the basic faculties for starting to read the Bible, which I should do too; but mostly waste my time here.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1208364


Again, if by ALL you mean "infinity", then the relationship between one and all is the following:

1 / 0 = infinity.

BTW, no need for the Bible to grasp these basic things...or "faculties", as you call them.

Finally, action/reaction in forums like this in virtual reality is not a waste of time. For example, you will LEARN a lot more by action/reaction (cause and effect) in virtual reality or any other forms of reality than by reading the Bible. It is called experience...
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Wow i never noticed the apple with the bit out of it before like u said it was in plain view. Sometihng you see all the time but never think about makes you wonder what else is in plain view that had a double meaning that we don't think about or see.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1214423


The symbols (signs) are indeed everywhere and in plain sight and the Apple from Apple Computer is an "obvious" one.

So, and obviously, by biting (using) the "Apple" Computer, one gets to information and knowledge, which is of course - good!

Yet the silly Bible tells you that by biting the Apple it is bad, meaning that information and knowledge (of good and evil, etc) is bad! So it also means that the silly God of the Bible is nothing but the Devil (Slave driver) who wants to keep the people as his slaves and without information and knowledge... :(

No wonder its slaves (followers) call him Lord! I guess that they really like to be his slaves!!! :(

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Amazing...thanks!

Knowledge will be released more than ever n 2011, just hope the wisdom is taken on board.
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Quantum Hologram & ESP - Edgar Mitchell, Apollo Astronaut

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Amazing...thanks!

Knowledge will be released more than ever n 2011, just hope the wisdom is taken on board.
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You're welcome...

..and YES, the Universal Consciousness cycle, the last cycle at the highest (9th) level of the pyramid, before the present and overall age/era precession macro cycle finally ends, indeed starts in Feb 2011 and it is all about knowledge, navigating through reality channels and one's reference (consciousness)...

+1 (Uni-verse)
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