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A relative had a dream in the 80's in which he was "taken" up by an angel into space and given an aerial view of the world. He saw towers being erected in the US and UK and between them a spider web was formed. Within seconds, these towers were everywhere and the "spider web" encompassed the globe. He didn't know what these towers were (there was no internet or cell phones to speak of at that time) so he asked the angel what he was seeing.

The angel responded with this..."This is the fulfilling of the Tree of Knowledge of Good and Evil."

When my relative stated to me the angel's interpretation in his dream, he asked me to look on the back of my laptop and tell him what I saw. There was the MacIntosh Computer logo...THE APPLE WITH THE BITE TAKEN OUT OF IT! The universal symbol for mankind's act of rebellion in the Garden of Eden...Hidden in PLAIN VIEW!




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I KNOW! Right? damned
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See...that's the problem. You're blinded by your hate for religion. Any sensible person would know...knowledge has increased AND decreased throughout history. Civilizations get wiped out...their inteligence and knowledge went with them. Great thinkers die without being able to publish their knowledge, there goes their findings. The internet changed all that. Log it on to the web...and suddenly, you've got a great source of information and a great source of record keeping. Spread this information to others and they can stand on the shoulders of this knowledge...unlike history where only those who could read or had access to the books of knowledge could find inspiration and further the study. Very simple...I don't suppose you thought of that, because your hate clouded your judgement.


Thought of what?

You rambled off a bunch of common knowledge statements, I was expecting to hear something new since I'm so blinded.

The exponential growth of knowledge is the end of religions grip on the world.
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I pitty you...actually, not just you...anybody that you speak to about such things must feel the brunt of your hatred. What a horrible way to live...

I don't like the islamic terrorists that attack and kill innocent people, but I don't hate the muslim religion. I don't like the Christian people who killed others in the name of God, but I don't hate Christianity. It's easy to hate...until the chewing in your stomach becomes depressing.
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bsflag

Who pinned this crap





BS?

"this crap"??


Care to at least mention what part isn't true?


Sssshhhhh... Zaz doesn't know that B.S. stands for Bible Study!!!
 Quoting: Life and Love


chuckle I thought it stood for "Begotten Son"! Who knew it stood for "Bible Study"! Thanks for clearing that up for me! :)
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Sure it does. It is simply more evidence of fulfilled bible prophecy.

But, after having read many of your posts and threads, it is clear that you won't see any of it until you are literally running for your life, from the wrath that is coming.
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Oooh scary. You love feeling elite over the godless, you relish in threats.

"You wait and see."

You are, without question the smallest minds among us.
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The Awakening and 2011

There has been so much information coming out this past year about the powers behind world events, that it is now clear we’re headed for some kind of revolution.

Indeed, elite manipulator Zbigniew Brzezinski warned other globalists at the Council on Foreign Relations conference in Montreal that “For the first time in all of human history mankind is politically awakened – that’s a total new reality – it has not been so for most of human history.”



[link to www.youtube.com]

[link to wideshut.co.uk]
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It's easy to hate...until the chewing in your stomach becomes depressing.
 Quoting: 40Head

Sort of like your drinking rat poison and waiting for the rat to die.
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Is it me or does it seem off that a loving God would think that us having knowledge is somehow a bad thing here?

only when man attempts to be God. Also with more knowledge man becomes more evil as he thinks he is the controller of his own destiny and no longer needs God with his toys of knowledge.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1203157


So to you who/what is this "invisible" God!?

..and does that also mean that you believe that knowledge is bad and, therefore, being "dumb" is good!?
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Did you know that Christ taught that religion was not the point of His coming, it was to fulfill a relationship with you?
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Applause!! Applause!!
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Is it me or does it seem off that a loving God would think that us having knowledge is somehow a bad thing here?

only when man attempts to be God. Also with more knowledge man becomes more evil as he thinks he is the controller of his own destiny and no longer needs God with his toys of knowledge.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1203157


But we do control our own destiny ... by the choices we make. God has nothing to do with it.
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But we do control our own destiny ... by the choices we make. God has nothing to do with it.
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I fear that's how the majority of society lives. I wish I could walk along side you for awhile and show you another way.
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Cool video, seen it here a few times.

It has absolutely nothing to do with religion however.




Sure it does. It is simply more evidence of fulfilled bible prophecy.

But, after having read many of your posts and threads, it is clear that you won't see any of it until you are literally running for your life, from the wrath that is coming.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1207332


I have yet to see a subject on this site where someone doesn't attach religion to it. There was nothing religious about the video. All it did was quote facts. I wish you bible-thumpers would start your own site and preach to your own choir.
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Oh God. A thread alluding to God.
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~ LOL... I KNOW... will miracles never cease? Not as long as there's a God, I guess.
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~ Y'all Are CrAzY Doom Tards!! But I love y'all anyway... well, not the shills, not so much... ~

~ Wanna know what we're all here for? THEY know: [link to www.youtube.com] ... So if _THEY_ can manage this, why in the world are WE such hateful fail-tards, people ........ ? ~
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Another phenomenon I've noticed is that the more we are connected via the internet, texts, cells, etc., the less relationally connected we are.

... and the love of many shall wax cold.

 Quoting: Life and Love

i notice this alot... people are afraid of love after having put on a show for to long that in order to be themselfs theyd basicly have to sort of start a new life and have to let go of some of their "friends" who never really were friends to begin with. but people dont want to lose the comfort their in. so their twisted, upset and without a guide...

i hurts me to see them when they want change and help but on the other hand are afraid of it.
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It's another fulfilled prophecy

for those who have eyes open to see.



Not really.

"and knowledge shall be increased"

I don't see how knowledge could ever decrease.

Unless everyone becomes a religious fanatic that fears knowledge.

Common sense statement is fulfilled! It's a prophecy to the mindless.




Cool video, seen it here a few times.

It has absolutely nothing to do with religion however.


Exactly. As I stated in the OP, it is merely descriptive of the times in which we live.



I find it insulting that you use this good video for your own devices.



See...that's the problem. You're blinded by your hate for religion. Any sensible person would know...knowledge has increased AND decreased throughout history. Civilizations get wiped out...their inteligence and knowledge went with them. Great thinkers die without being able to publish their knowledge, there goes their findings. The internet changed all that. Log it on to the web...and suddenly, you've got a great source of information and a great source of record keeping. Spread this information to others and they can stand on the shoulders of this knowledge...unlike history where only those who could read or had access to the books of knowledge could find inspiration and further the study. Very simple...I don't suppose you thought of that, because your hate clouded your judgement.
 Quoting: 40Head


Thank you for that excellent answer.

Throw in a nuclear war and much of this new knowledge we have accumulated could be lost as well!
John 11:35 Jesus wept.

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But we do control our own destiny ... by the choices we make. God has nothing to do with it.

I fear that's how the majority of society lives. I wish I could walk along side you for awhile and show you another way.
 Quoting: Life and Love


Well, God has everything to do with it because God = I AM

..and society = evil.

So what other way do you have in mind!?
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In my mind I always pair Daniel's recording of the angel's statement "knowledge shall be increased" with Paul's warning of and to atheists: "always learning and never able to come to the knowledge of the truth". (2 Tim 3:7)

Knowledge is good, it has allowed us to go to the moon, cure polio, and build mass transit etc. But for those who pursue knowledge to the point where it becomes an idol and never acknowledging it came from God means they are lost.

Thanks for posting this OP and thank you to the moderator who pinned it

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"From that time Jesus began to preach and say, "Repent, for the kingdom of heaven is at hand." Matthew 4:17
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But we do control our own destiny ... by the choices we make. God has nothing to do with it.

I fear that's how the majority of society lives. I wish I could walk along side you for awhile and show you another way.
 Quoting: Life and Love


My way is my way ... why should it concern you? What I believe or don't believe is no concern of yours. I don't care what or how your believe but I do resent your pushing your beliefs on others.
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A relative had a dream in the 80's in which he was "taken" up by an angel into space and given an aerial view of the world. He saw towers being erected in the US and UK and between them a spider web was formed. Within seconds, these towers were everywhere and the "spider web" encompassed the globe. He didn't know what these towers were (there was no internet or cell phones to speak of at that time) so he asked the angel what he was seeing.

The angel responded with this..."This is the fulfilling of the Tree of Knowledge of Good and Evil."

When my relative stated to me the angel's interpretation in his dream, he asked me to look on the back of my laptop and tell him what I saw. There was the MacIntosh Computer logo...THE APPLE WITH THE BITE TAKEN OUT OF IT! The universal symbol for mankind's act of rebellion in the Garden of Eden...Hidden in PLAIN VIEW!

damned
 Quoting: ^Watcher^

If you think Eve ate an APPLE, you are really deceived. Look in the Bible you will not find APPLE there.
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Sure it does. It is simply more evidence of fulfilled bible prophecy.

But, after having read many of your posts and threads, it is clear that you won't see any of it until you are literally running for your life, from the wrath that is coming.


Oooh scary. You love feeling elite over the godless, you relish in threats.

"You wait and see."

You are, without question the smallest minds among us.
 Quoting: DNAprototype






Like I said...

You won't see it until it's impossible to deny any longer. Don't worry bud. Your wait won't be much longer. Last pieces of the puzzle are being put into place, and your a dead ringer to take the mark.

Funny how the people professing to be "wise" are the biggest fools of all. Those "small-minded" folks will share in the prize for all eternity, whilst you are neither buried, nor lamented, and don't even come to mind.

Perfect justice.
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... people are afraid of love ...
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I agree. Some will learn to love others, but that's the easy part. The hard part is opening your heart to receive the love of someone else.

When we give love, we remain in control: we decide who to love, when to love, how much to love... and even when to stop loving.

But when we receive love, we have to relinquish control and become vulnerable. That's extremely hard to do.

And if it's hard to do with other people, imagine how difficult it is for someone new to faith to "open up" to receive God's love.
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But we do control our own destiny ... by the choices we make. God has nothing to do with it.

I fear that's how the majority of society lives. I wish I could walk along side you for awhile and show you another way.
 Quoting: Life and Love


I bet if you spent a whole day with those who "control their own destiny", the divorce rate, drug abuse and debt slavery would make alot more sense!

They are quick to tell believers that we are inferior for relying on God to guide us in our choices. But when you see the mess their lives are in, you have to wonder why they think they are going about it the RIGHT way!
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If you think Eve ate an APPLE, you are really deceived. Look in the Bible you will not find APPLE there.
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I pray that we can move beyond legalism and learn to live in the Father's affection.
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But we do control our own destiny ... by the choices we make. God has nothing to do with it.

I fear that's how the majority of society lives. I wish I could walk along side you for awhile and show you another way.


Well, God has everything to do with it because God = I AM

..and society = evil.

So what other way do you have in mind!?
 Quoting: wirelessguru1


If you've had some of my experiences, you'd throw religion out the window in a heartbeat. Don't knock others' beliefs until you've walked a mile in their shoes.
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They are quick to tell believers that we are inferior for relying on God to guide us in our choices.
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If someone making that criticism had ever relied on God, then I would be more quick to listen to him or her.
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Knowledge is good, it has allowed us to go to the moon, cure polio, and build mass transit etc. But for those who pursue knowledge to the point where it becomes an idol and never acknowledging it came from God means they are lost.
 Quoting: Dread Pirate Roberts

But how can knowledge become an idol when it is neither a person nor a thing but rather information (data)!?
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Like I said...

You won't see it until it's impossible to deny any longer. Don't worry bud. Your wait won't be much longer. Last pieces of the puzzle are being put into place, and your a dead ringer to take the mark.

Funny how the people professing to be "wise" are the biggest fools of all. Those "small-minded" folks will share in the prize for all eternity, whilst you are neither buried, nor lamented, and don't even come to mind.

Perfect justice.
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Your egoism and hate shine through.

See you in our next life, just like we've done for a long time. There is nothing to fear.

We are spiritual beings having human experiences.

The only disagreement I have with this thread is how the OP hijacked the video for his own devices. It's rather insulting.

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My way is my way ... why should it concern you? What I believe or don't believe is no concern of yours. I don't care what or how your believe but I do resent your pushing your beliefs on others.
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And will you be so kind as to tell me just how I am doing that here? (After that, I will ask you where your resentment is actually coming from?)
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I post this video for your consideration.




If you are spiritually minded and a Christ follower, you will recognize the title of the thread from Daniel 12:4

But thou, O Daniel, shut up the words, and seal the book, even to the time of the end: many shall run to and fro, and knowledge shall be increased.

Another phenomenon I've noticed is that the more we are connected via the internet, texts, cells, etc., the less relationally connected we are.

... and the love of many shall wax cold.

I don't claim that the information in the video "fulfills" anything, but it is quite descriptive of the times in which we live.

"He who has an ear to hear, let him hear."
 Quoting: Life and Love



The knowledge spoken of in Daniel 12 is in reference to "Biblical Knowledge".


Rev:5 (Christ has already remove the seals)

1 And I saw in the right hand of him that sat on the throne a book written within and on the backside, sealed with seven seals.
2 And I saw a strong angel proclaiming with a loud voice, Who is worthy to open the book, and to loose the seals thereof?
3 And no man in heaven, nor in earth, neither under the earth, was able to open the book, neither to look thereon.
4 And I wept much, because no man was found worthy to open and to read the book, neither to look thereon.
5 And one of the elders saith unto me, Weep not: behold, the Lion of the tribe of Juda, the Root of David, hath prevailed to open the book, and to loose the seven seals thereof.
6 And I beheld, and, lo, in the midst of the throne and of the four beasts, and in the midst of the elders, stood a Lamb as it had been slain, having seven horns and seven eyes, which are the seven Spirits of God sent forth into all the earth.
7 And he came and took the book out of the right hand of him that sat upon the throne.
8 And when he had taken the book, the four beasts and four and twenty elders fell down before the Lamb, having every one of them harps, and golden vials full of odours, which are the prayers of saints. 9 And they sung a new song, saying, Thou art worthy to take the book, and to open the seals thereof: for thou wast slain, and hast redeemed us to God by thy blood out of every kindred, and tongue, and people, and nation;
10 And hast made us unto our God kings and priests: and we shall reign on the earth.
11 And I beheld, and I heard the voice of many angels round about the throne and the beasts and the elders: and the number of them was ten thousand times ten thousand, and thousands of thousands;
12 Saying with a loud voice, Worthy is the Lamb that was slain to receive power, and riches, and wisdom, and strength, and honour, and glory, and blessing.
13 And every creature which is in heaven, and on the earth, and under the earth, and such as are in the sea, and all that are in them, heard I saying, Blessing, and honour, and glory, and power, be unto him that sitteth upon the throne, and unto the Lamb for ever and ever.
14 And the four beasts said, Amen. And the four and twenty elders fell down and worshipped him that liveth for ever and ever.


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A relative had a dream in the 80's in which he was "taken" up by an angel into space and given an aerial view of the world. He saw towers being erected in the US and UK and between them a spider web was formed. Within seconds, these towers were everywhere and the "spider web" encompassed the globe. He didn't know what these towers were (there was no internet or cell phones to speak of at that time) so he asked the angel what he was seeing.

The angel responded with this..."This is the fulfilling of the Tree of Knowledge of Good and Evil."

When my relative stated to me the angel's interpretation in his dream, he asked me to look on the back of my laptop and tell him what I saw. There was the MacIntosh Computer logo...THE APPLE WITH THE BITE TAKEN OUT OF IT! The universal symbol for mankind's act of rebellion in the Garden of Eden...Hidden in PLAIN VIEW!

damned

If you think Eve ate an APPLE, you are really deceived. Look in the Bible you will not find APPLE there.
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I agree! The Bible says Eve ate of the "fruit" of the Tree of Knowledge of Good and Evil. The universal "fruit" is the APPLE.

But I am led to believe that something far worse than taking a bite of "fruit" occurred at that time. In fact, I believe Eve's son, Cain, was a product of the "bite of fruit", but I won't go into that here.

Suffice it to say, the Bible mentions "Fruit" from that Tree. I imagine the first fruit most think of is not a "mango".
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Cool video, seen it here a few times.

It has absolutely nothing to do with religion however.




Sure it does. It is simply more evidence of fulfilled bible prophecy.

But, after having read many of your posts and threads, it is clear that you won't see any of it until you are literally running for your life, from the wrath that is coming.


I have yet to see a subject on this site where someone doesn't attach religion to it. There was nothing religious about the video. All it did was quote facts. I wish you bible-thumpers would start your own site and preach to your own choir.
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First off, I've never "thumped" a bible in my life. But I can understand how the truth might be very uncomfortable for you.

Secondly, we're supposed to IGNORE all of the signs around us? The very ones that we were instructed to be watchful of?

We were told NOT to sleep, as others do, and to be vigilant and watchful, and fully aware of the signs of the times.

And yeah, I know that you'd like for us to just go away. That's also a fulfillment of bible prophecy.

Thanks for your contribution.

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