Pay No Taxes legally -End the FED -synopsis page 8-Why are waiting for someone to do it for us like Ron paul

so if you have tax witholding from working for someone else how do you go about getting 'lawful money' for that first year if the bank gives out nothing but federal reserve notes? By simply stamping that note on every paycheck?

How does one go about demanding lawful money (rather than federal reserve notes)?

How to deal with the problem of direct deposit (since no actual deposit slip is used)?

How does one prove their FRNs were converted to lawful money, thereby exempting the income tax?

If one converts ALL their income for a year to lawful money, do they simply not file a 1040 or is there a form or forms they can file in lieu of the 1040 to be sure the IRS isn't going to come after them years later?


People have been doing this since 1933 (actually, this has been an issue since the civil war), most of the time, they would just exchange the FRNs for US Bank Notes, but that changed in 1977.

Now, the FRN serves as US Bank notes and the Bank does an accounting of all Lawful money transactions.

As for the IRS, one could file for a full refund or, after a year of redeeming lawful money, do a ZERO withholding on the employers W-4.

Then, when you file a 1040, you simply have ZERO taxable income, but you must redeem lawful money for a full year before doing that.

The IRS has the right to contact you and you must provide your proof that you have been redeeming lawful money with your demands.

As for direct deposit, change your signature card as directed above, or send a notarized letter to your bank that all withdrawals or deposits on account XXXXXX-XXXXXX
are for credit on account or exchanged for lawful money in the form of Non-negotiable Federal Reserve Notes of face value.

Send it Registered mail to your bank.


Thank You! I've been looking into this for some time. I had a bit of a rough time with the IRS and want to be free of them, but I thought it wise to be square with them before starting this tactic. As of this years 1040, I'll be square. I want to start doing this immediately, but because of my past issues with the IRS, I definitely want to be sure I have recourse if and when they come after me again. I think I'll make a trip to my local IRS office and ask some questions about this technique. I will bookmark this thread and post whatever info (if any) I'm able to glean from the evil bastards.

How does one go about demanding lawful money (rather than federal reserve notes)?

How to deal with the problem of direct deposit (since no actual deposit slip is used)?

How does one prove their FRNs were converted to lawful money, thereby exempting the income tax?

If one converts ALL their income for a year to lawful money, do they simply not file a 1040 or is there a form or forms they can file in lieu of the 1040 to be sure the IRS isn't going to come after them years later?


People have been doing this since 1933 (actually, this has been an issue since the civil war), most of the time, they would just exchange the FRNs for US Bank Notes, but that changed in 1977.

Now, the FRN serves as US Bank notes and the Bank does an accounting of all Lawful money transactions.

As for the IRS, one could file for a full refund or, after a year of redeeming lawful money, do a ZERO withholding on the employers W-4.

Then, when you file a 1040, you simply have ZERO taxable income, but you must redeem lawful money for a full year before doing that.

The IRS has the right to contact you and you must provide your proof that you have been redeeming lawful money with your demands.

As for direct deposit, change your signature card as directed above, or send a notarized letter to your bank that all withdrawals or deposits on account XXXXXX-XXXXXX
are for credit on account or exchanged for lawful money in the form of Non-negotiable Federal Reserve Notes of face value.

Send it Registered mail to your bank.


Thank You! I've been looking into this for some time. I had a bit of a rough time with the IRS and want to be free of them, but I thought it wise to be square with them before starting this tactic. As of this years 1040, I'll be square. I want to start doing this immediately, but because of my past issues with the IRS, I definitely want to be sure I have recourse if and when they come after me again. I think I'll make a trip to my local IRS office and ask some questions about this technique. I will bookmark this thread and post whatever info (if any) I'm able to glean from the evil bastards.


Remember, ignorance of the law is not a defense. The IRS is a collection agency for the Fed. If you used their product, unredeemed Federal Reserve Notes, you owe them a fee.

Get square with them, you can negotiate with them once they know you are willing and have to pay them something, then start living lawfully.

When one obeys the law, the law is there to protect them.

The Constitution clearly spells out what is Lawful money, once you live by the law of the land (the Constitution) by redeeming lawful money, you get the benefits of the protection of the Law of the land.

That means you actually PAY FOR WHAT YOU BUY. Land, products, etc.

There is much more to this than just income tax.

*Without prejudice*

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OP, have you done this yet?

OP, have you done this yet?

NO I just found out about it today. I live in Thailand at present, but will be returning soon. I have income from property and will be setting up payments using this system. rken

U. S. JUDGE FINES AGORA SUBSIDIARY AND EDITOR $1.5 M FOR SECURITIES FRAUD

An investment newsletter’s publisher and its editor have been hit with $1.5 million in financial penalties after a U. S. federal judge determined they defrauded their own subscribers in a securities scam.

Judgment in favor of the Securities Exchange Commission and against Maryland-based Pirate Investor LLC, now called Stansberry & Associates Investment Research, LLC, and Frank Porter Stansberry was issued at the U. S. District Court for the District of Maryland on August 1, 2007 – 28 months after the completion of a bench trial. The penalty comprises disgorgement of $1.3 million in profits and interest from the fraudulent activity, for which Pirate Investor and Stansberry are jointly and severally liable, plus a fine of $120,000 against each defendant.


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[link to www.law.cornell.edu]

12 United States code is their Code that made Federal Reserve Banks.

Nobody is selling anything, nor giving legal advise, just letting people know the law.

Income tax is 100 legal and lawful, it is also contractual and like any contract, it can be controlled with the law.

That means you actually PAY FOR WHAT YOU BUY. Land, products, etc.

There is much more to this than just income tax.

*Without prejudice*

You are referring to living with out credit cards and banks loan I think. right. rken

won't they just change the rules like they did during the pre-game collapse when too many people try to do this?

won't they just change the rules like they did during the pre-game collapse when too many people try to do this?

OP, we need proof that it works.

OP, we need proof that it works.


Do it yourself and be the proof, there has never been a case with the IRS, so there is no court rulings on the matter.

Some people are doing this and still paying income tax by choice, but at least they now have a choice.

BTW, this does not work for Corporate income, which is usually taxable income.

If some lawyer type could research this case, we could probably learn a lot from it.

United States v. Rickman, 638 F.2d 182, 184 (10 th Cir. 1980) - The court affirmed the conviction for willfully failing to file a return and rejected the taxpayer's argument that "the Federal Reserve Notes in which he was paid were not lawful money within the meaning of Art. 1, § 8, United States Constitution."

If some lawyer type could research this case, we could probably learn a lot from it.

United States v. Rickman, 638 F.2d 182, 184 (10 th Cir. 1980) - The court affirmed the conviction for willfully failing to file a return and rejected the taxpayer's argument that "the Federal Reserve Notes in which he was paid were not lawful money within the meaning of Art. 1, § 8, United States Constitution."


That's right, all he had to do was demand his lawful money (which he did not do in that case) and those notes would have become "lawful money".

Just because they are not lawful money does not mean they are not redeemable for lawful money upon demand.

I have already said, his power to contract has nothing to do with the lawful money meaning of Art. 1, sub-chapter 8 of the constitution.

He used the product of the Federal Reserve, the question before the court was not "Was the product of the Federal Reserve lawful money." It was a simple question of "did he use the product or not?"

Clearly, he did, so he owed them a fee for it.

Was there a question in your post?

I will be back in about 6 hrs.

No question, just digging, trying to get the info out there. I don't know how to look up cases, but this one looked relevant. I got the impression that it went down just as you stated. It looks pretty sneaky on the gub'mint's part. His argument was that he was not paid in lawful money, which was true, but since he had not converted his notes into lawful money, it had no bearing on his case.