"I'm glad to hear you've kept your own records, so if the Federal Reserve ever come around to seize your possessions you'll be able to prove they have no right to do so. But here we are back to my earlier question: when did the Federal Reserve last do that to anybody?"

The Federal reserve does not enforce the liens, the IRS does that.

The IRS is the collection and enforcement agent for the Federal Reserve.

Are you really going to try to say the IRS has never seized any property or money? What gives them that right if it is not the presumption it is theirs to seize?

And the courts consistently back them on it until the DEFENDANT is proven not-guilty and broke anyway.

My documented demands for Lawful money stops the presumption that what I have is theirs.


_Ah_... now I get it. We've been at cross-purposes all the time. I came in later in the discussion and I've been thinking this was an actual currency issue. All this talk of Lawful Money being 'worth' more than Federal Reserve Notes, as if one dollar Lawful would buy you more goods or services than one dollar Federal Reserve.

In fact it's nothing at all to do with the value of money in terms of what it can be exchanged for. It's a theory that if you jump through the right hoops then you'll be exempt from taxation on a technicality.

Well, then if that's true then you'll certainly get more for your earnings this way, since you'll not be paying taxes at all! Best of luck to you, then, but from what I've heard whenever cases like these actually come to court phrases like 'frivolous' get used and summary fines imposed - regardless of how well you've documented your careful distinction between dollars and dollars.