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rken (OP) User ID: 1493517 Thailand 08/04/2011 04:38 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Pay No Taxes legally -End the FED -synopsis page 8-Why are waiting for someone to do it for us like Ron paul unbanned bump! Quoting: Anonymous Coward 692708Howdy 708, Long time, no see. How is your case going? Default judgement already recorded and filed. Now have my Federal Evidence repository for any thing else I want to file on the land. We are working on Federal criminal complaints being filed and recorded against trespassers from commercial agents onto land bound men and women redeeming lawful money. Great work, congratulations. I have not been able to accomplish much with my default judgement due to being in Thailand, but returning to Hawaii soon. rken |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1488687 United States 08/05/2011 05:26 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Pay No Taxes legally -End the FED -synopsis page 8-Why are waiting for someone to do it for us like Ron paul Just withdrew some cash from the bank. I decided to handwrite my disclaimer instead of stamping it, and as I always do, wrote "Without Prejudice" above my signature. It must have been a new teller, because a manager was called over to do whatever they do, and the only question out of her mouth was "what does Without Prejudice mean?". I simply answered that it is part of my signature. She didn't even question the disclaimer. This tells me the word is getting out! |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1284970 United States 08/05/2011 06:00 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Pay No Taxes legally -End the FED -synopsis page 8-Why are waiting for someone to do it for us like Ron paul Just withdrew some cash from the bank. I decided to handwrite my disclaimer instead of stamping it, and as I always do, wrote "Without Prejudice" above my signature. It must have been a new teller, because a manager was called over to do whatever they do, and the only question out of her mouth was "what does Without Prejudice mean?". I simply answered that it is part of my signature. She didn't even question the disclaimer. This tells me the word is getting out! Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1488687I don't think this is gonna help. What counts is when you deposit into the account. |
Whiskey Brother User ID: 1381992 United States 08/05/2011 06:04 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Pay No Taxes legally -End the FED -synopsis page 8-Why are waiting for someone to do it for us like Ron paul The only taxes I pay are sales tax, vehicle registration tax, cigarette tax, beer tax, gasoline tax, hunting and fishing license tax, and national forest adventure pass tax. That's more then enough goddamn money in taxes I pay, just to go about my daily business. |
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rken (OP) User ID: 1497688 Thailand 08/09/2011 04:10 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Pay No Taxes legally -End the FED -synopsis page 8-Why are waiting for someone to do it for us like Ron paul Not to worry things will soon be turning around. What with 2million new millionaires and a cash input of around twelve trillion into the treasury, the country should rebound quickly. There are some very important things most economists are overlooking to their supprise, when it happens. Thanks to Bush sr. and Cheney. rken |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1488687 United States 08/09/2011 05:56 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Pay No Taxes legally -End the FED -synopsis page 8-Why are waiting for someone to do it for us like Ron paul Just withdrew some cash from the bank. I decided to handwrite my disclaimer instead of stamping it, and as I always do, wrote "Without Prejudice" above my signature. It must have been a new teller, because a manager was called over to do whatever they do, and the only question out of her mouth was "what does Without Prejudice mean?". I simply answered that it is part of my signature. She didn't even question the disclaimer. This tells me the word is getting out! Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1488687I don't think this is gonna help. What counts is when you deposit into the account. If that's true, why are people changing the signature cards on their bank accounts to have money redeemed both when cashing/depositing as well as when writing checks? |
osbogosley User ID: 1425023 United States 08/09/2011 06:51 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Pay No Taxes legally -End the FED -synopsis page 8-Why are waiting for someone to do it for us like Ron paul Every time I see a Ron Paultard thread I ask them why, if he wants to audit the Fed., why doesn't he just tell you how to sign a check? Unfortunately it goes right over their heads. I also ask them to explain why they think a vote is a choice? Which leg do you want cut off? 3,2,1 vote. Gov. would end tomorrow if no one voted. osbogosley; All words I type are illegal advice, really tired of disclaimers! |
rken (OP) User ID: 1497688 Thailand 08/09/2011 08:59 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Pay No Taxes legally -End the FED -synopsis page 8-Why are waiting for someone to do it for us like Ron paul Every time I see a Ron Paultard thread I ask them why, if he wants to audit the Fed., why doesn't he just tell you how to sign a check? Quoting: osbogosleyUnfortunately it goes right over their heads. I also ask them to explain why they think a vote is a choice? Which leg do you want cut off? 3,2,1 vote. Gov. would end tomorrow if no one voted. Would save everybody a lot campaign money too. They could just pick who they want, like they don't anyway. lol Yeh, what up with that Ron Paul. Learn how to endorse a check. End of the FED. rken |
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leem User ID: 1331439 United States 08/16/2011 07:20 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Pay No Taxes legally -End the FED -synopsis page 8-Why are waiting for someone to do it for us like Ron paul 26 Qualities That Make Man God-Like: 1: Fearlessness 2: purity of heart 3: Steadfastness 4: Almsgiving 5: Self-restraint 6: Religious rites 7: Right study of the scriptures 8: Self discipline 9: Straightforwardness 10: Noninjury 11: Truth 12: Absense of wrath 13: Renunciation 14: Peace 15: Absence of fault-finding and calumny 16: Compassion toward all beings 17: Noncovetousness, absence of greed 18: Gentleness 19: Modesty 20: Absence of restlessness 21: Radiance of character 22: Forgiveness 23: Patience or fortitude 24: Cleanness of body and purity of mind 25: Nonhatred 26: Lack of conceit |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 1250479 United States 08/18/2011 02:32 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Pay No Taxes legally -End the FED -synopsis page 8-Why are waiting for someone to do it for us like Ron paul Every time I see a Ron Paultard thread I ask them why, if he wants to audit the Fed., why doesn't he just tell you how to sign a check? Quoting: osbogosleyUnfortunately it goes right over their heads. I also ask them to explain why they think a vote is a choice? Which leg do you want cut off? 3,2,1 vote. Gov. would end tomorrow if no one voted. Would save everybody a lot campaign money too. They could just pick who they want, like they don't anyway. lol Yeh, what up with that Ron Paul. Learn how to endorse a check. End of the FED. rken |
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Sandi_T User ID: 1301649 United States 08/20/2011 11:30 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Pay No Taxes legally -End the FED -synopsis page 8-Why are waiting for someone to do it for us like Ron paul Bumping and pinning this thread, cause this is too important. No more requests in the "Strangest things" thread please. :hf: Past Lives requests thread: Thread: That Which Once Was: Past Lives |
Pleeb User ID: 1346883 United States 08/20/2011 11:35 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Pay No Taxes legally -End the FED -synopsis page 8-Why are waiting for someone to do it for us like Ron paul Bumping and pinning this thread, cause this is too important. Quoting: Sandi_TAfter first seeing this thread weeks ago, I spent untold hours researching this stuff; still haven't read the entire thread, but things get REALLY interesting around page 37. I'm still having a hard time trying to figure this out though, and most research I've found is from around '07-'08. Where do I get a "publish copy" of 12-USC-411? If I cash all my checks as lawful money, how to get that money back at the end of the year from what I paid (as asked afew posts up)? Does David still come here? Does he have a website? The rabbit hole gets deeper and deeper no matter how far I look. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1266818 United States 08/20/2011 12:18 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Pay No Taxes legally -End the FED -synopsis page 8-Why are waiting for someone to do it for us like Ron paul What if you get direct deposit? That would be interesting being I don't endorse anything or am I liable because of my w2. This is all very interesting I want more info, this is great stuff thank you. |
Levi Philos User ID: 590644 United States 08/20/2011 01:11 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Pay No Taxes legally -End the FED -synopsis page 8-Why are waiting for someone to do it for us like Ron paul I'm still having a hard time trying to figure this out though, and most research I've found is from around '07-'08. Quoting: PleebWhere do I get a "publish copy" of 12-USC-411? If I cash all my checks as lawful money, how to get that money back at the end of the year from what I paid (as asked afew posts up)? Does David still come here? Does he have a website? The rabbit hole gets deeper and deeper no matter how far I look. The complexity is a result of the efforts of gov and the banks to cover and obscure the essential simplicity of what constitutes money. David Merrill is currently usually found here: [link to www.savingtosuitorsclub.net] Friends and Family links are something he uses to post misc documents and image scans: [link to friends-n-family-research.info] (that is mostly links and not everything he posts is linked there) The whole thing started rolling with the document: "NOTES OF DEBT ARE NOT INCOME" [link to www.google.com] Usually found in PDF format, but here it is in htm format: [link to freedom-school.com] You need to recognize that the federal reserve note is a credit instrument drawn on all of the people and all of their property - a federal reserve note is a debt obligation of the US gov and the banks who were assigned the value of your credit.... and.... YOU ARE THE CREDITOR Forcing them to recognize that will get you into a tooth and nail drag-out fight... Good Luck With That. |
Levi Philos User ID: 590644 United States 08/20/2011 01:28 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Pay No Taxes legally -End the FED -synopsis page 8-Why are waiting for someone to do it for us like Ron paul The mostly hidden presumptions of law are that final discharge of debt would be by presentation of specie such as gold and/or silver coin. My own personal investigations and ponderings have lead me to a recognition that all money rests on mutual credit and specie coin are just mnemonic social devices. However, trying to get there through law is impossible, only a deep understanding of social structure - the memes and memeplexes that drive human action exposes the truth. Thus, I quote whomever I believe to be close to truth... such as Narayana Kocherlakota who is now head of the Minnesota fed. "Money is Social Memory" (paraphrased title from memory) is something I recognized to be true - published about ten or more years ago. Pursuing relief through legal remedy you should recognize first that when Roosevelt rounded up the gold which was lawful money in 1933 and placed said gold in government repositories that made the government ultimately responsible for all final payments. It was the implementation of the Fifth plank of the communist manifesto - the credit of the people is the property of the government - and the government assigned the credit to the banks via "license." The credit the bank loans you is your own property. The promissory note is the new money; you have yourself become a banker when signing the promissory note; and the presumption in law is that you understand what you are doing. Search out and read Griffin's MANDRAKE MECHANISM for an understanding of how double entry bookkeeping credit money is created. Also THE TWO FACES OF DEBT and MODERN MONEY MECHANICS found in the library section of reinventingmoney dot com. |
Levi Philos User ID: 590644 United States 08/20/2011 01:38 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Pay No Taxes legally -End the FED -synopsis page 8-Why are waiting for someone to do it for us like Ron paul You should plow through the now 36 pages of this thread; the Kocherlokata document was linked on page 26: Thread: Get rid of the money system, then get rid of goverrments (Page 26) Here it is: [link to minneapolisfed.org] In the library at reinventing money dot com you can find 2 faces of debt & modern money mechanics: [link to www.reinventingmoney.com] The Riegel books and documents are important, but the two Dr Popp books are short and easy to understand. The first one is Money-BonaFide or NonBonaFide and the second one is The Cookie Jar. I personally digitized them from printed copies. Also, get and read the Auriti piece on the Induction of Value to Money and the Ownership of Money |
Levi Philos User ID: 590644 United States 08/20/2011 01:45 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Pay No Taxes legally -End the FED -synopsis page 8-Why are waiting for someone to do it for us like Ron paul Thread: Get rid of the money system, then get rid of goverrments (Page 5) One valid link of many for that piece is found on page 20: Thread: Get rid of the money system, then get rid of goverrments (Page 20) Ownership of money and the induction of value to money. Lack of uniform rules in statutory and constitutional systems. Additional proposals for the Treaty of Maastricht. By Prof. Giacinto Auriti People in Italy were using that document to offset tax bills. I have that from an email from a fellow who lives there. |
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Levi Philos User ID: 590644 United States 08/20/2011 01:58 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Pay No Taxes legally -End the FED -synopsis page 8-Why are waiting for someone to do it for us like Ron paul If you are near Chicago already or have the free bux to travel and pay to attend a conference, the upcoming Zarlenga conference is well worth attending. September 29 to October 02: [link to old.monetary.org] There are some honest and well meaning people presenting at that conference. Alternately, you can purchase recording of the presentations some months later at a cost probably under 500 bux |
Levi Philos User ID: 590644 United States 08/20/2011 02:09 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Pay No Taxes legally -End the FED -synopsis page 8-Why are waiting for someone to do it for us like Ron paul NATURAL LAW There has never been a man nor a woman born who could go back in time to yesterday and perform tasks that were previously left unfinished. There has never been a man nor woman born who could go forward to tomorrow and do work that was left unfinished today. Each of us labors THIS DAY - TODAY only. MONEY IS A METHOD OF RATIONALIZING THE DISTRIBUTION AND OWNERSHIP OF THE PRODUCTS OF EACH DAY'S EFFORTS Human intellectual and physical labor is the ultimate creator of wealth. The concept of shortage of money symbols is rooted deeply in the "gold is money" memeplex. Money is actually a special extension of language where by means of symbols and contracts the allocation and ownership of the commodities, products, and human labor is rationalized. The usage of gold and silver coins is actually an anti-counterfeiting mechanism as in a communications theory of money any act of telling lies with money is an act of counterfeiting. Specific performance of contract is more important than what the money symbols are created from. |
Levi Philos User ID: 590644 United States 08/20/2011 02:19 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Pay No Taxes legally -End the FED -synopsis page 8-Why are waiting for someone to do it for us like Ron paul Advances in the science have been made when people went back to the fundamentals and altered basic presumptions and proceeded from there. Of the five or six basic presumptions about money we find: Medium of Exchange; & Store of Value These two are true about an actual specie coin but no longer apply to a warehouse receipt. A warehouse receipt is an bearer ownership of something of value held by a third party at a different location. Gesell would ask "If you are holding a warehouse receipt that conveys the ownership of the described value held remotely by a third party, then how much is the monthly storage fee and by what mechanism is that fee remitted?" Austrian economists never understood that simple principle. |