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Anonymous Coward User ID: 1310979 United States 12/04/2012 03:52 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Pay No Taxes legally -End the FED -synopsis page 8-Why are waiting for someone to do it for us like Ron paul ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 19346782 you have no proof of that, go to the irs website see if they call usc12 sec411 a scam. still waiting... Let me know how this works out for you when you are in jail. You'll have plenty of waiting time Another cheer leader for the "rule by fear team". So, I am going to be put in jail for OBEYING the LAW and demanding my right to redeem Federal Reserve Credit for lawful money. At least you are good for a laugh!! Thank you for your posts! Just ask Ed and Elaine Brown, Irwin Schiff, Larkin Rose and many others. |
708 User ID: 20901334 United States 12/04/2012 10:23 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Pay No Taxes legally -End the FED -synopsis page 8-Why are waiting for someone to do it for us like Ron paul Let me know how this works out for you when you are in jail. You'll have plenty of waiting time Another cheer leader for the "rule by fear team". So, I am going to be put in jail for OBEYING the LAW and demanding my right to redeem Federal Reserve Credit for lawful money. At least you are good for a laugh!! Thank you for your posts! Just ask Ed and Elaine Brown, Irwin Schiff, Larkin Rose and many others. You clearly have not read this thread. Not one of those people demanded redemption of Federal Reserve Credit for lawful money per 12-USC 411. Your case histories are irrelevant because they are not the same subject matter. Already discussed, at length in the thread why they are in prison (or were) in prison, and rightly so, they broke the law. Keep bumping the thread though, its good to see nobody can come up with any real arguments against demand for lawful money per 12 USC 411!!!! :) |
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Chipper User ID: 1626250 United States 12/13/2012 01:42 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Pay No Taxes legally -End the FED -synopsis page 8-Why are waiting for someone to do it for us like Ron paul To what extent does case modify the meanings in Title 12? Many terms such as Federal reserve bank and Federal reserver note sometimes appear in title case, and sometimes in sentence case. Thanks |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 1284970 United States 12/13/2012 02:38 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Pay No Taxes legally -End the FED -synopsis page 8-Why are waiting for someone to do it for us like Ron paul I don't think it really matters. What matters is did you accept bank credit (aka Federal reserve credit)? Governed by the federal reserve act, a creation of CONgress and as such can be regulated/controlled/taxed including those who benefit from its emissions under the commerce clause. Central Bank Authority: McCulloch v. Maryland, 17 U.S. 316 (1819), Congresses ability to charter corporations. Authority to tax bank credit: Veazie Bank v. Fenno, 75 U.S. 533 (1869), Indirect taxing clause, Commerce Clause, Coined money and Borrowed money clause OR Did you accept lawful money of the U.S.. Governed by the Constitution Article 1 section 8 clause 2 & 5 Your paycheck is essentially a "bill of credit" if you redeem it for bank credit you engage in a voluntary taxable activity. Bank credit competes with congresses EXCLUSIVE authority to control the monetary system. When you drink from that well you have to play by their rules and taxes. When you drink from the well setup by the Constitution you are protected from the taxes by the direct tax clauses. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 29087907 United States 12/13/2012 02:50 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Pay No Taxes legally -End the FED -synopsis page 8-Why are waiting for someone to do it for us like Ron paul I don't think it really matters. What matters is did you accept bank credit (aka Federal reserve credit)? Governed by the federal reserve act, a creation of CONgress and as such can be regulated/controlled/taxed including those who benefit from its emissions under the commerce clause. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1284970 Central Bank Authority: McCulloch v. Maryland, 17 U.S. 316 (1819), Congresses ability to charter corporations. Authority to tax bank credit: Veazie Bank v. Fenno, 75 U.S. 533 (1869), Indirect taxing clause, Commerce Clause, Coined money and Borrowed money clause OR Did you accept lawful money of the U.S.. Governed by the Constitution Article 1 section 8 clause 2 & 5 Your paycheck is essentially a "bill of credit" if you redeem it for bank credit you engage in a voluntary taxable activity. Bank credit competes with congresses EXCLUSIVE authority to control the monetary system. When you drink from that well you have to play by their rules and taxes. When you drink from the well setup by the Constitution you are protected from the taxes by the direct tax clauses. Very well put! The endorsement creates the "taxable event" the demand for lawful money/non-endorsement creates not only a non-taxble event, it makes me the creditor and the US Treasury the DEBTOR. Simply put, every dollar I demand redeemed for my labor, goods and services counts as a DEBT owed to me by the US Treasury. That is right, THEY OWE ME the money, because I refuse to accept Federal Reserve Credit in return for my labor, goods and services! Think about the ramifications of that! |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1284970 United States 12/13/2012 03:11 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Pay No Taxes legally -End the FED -synopsis page 8-Why are waiting for someone to do it for us like Ron paul I don't think it really matters. What matters is did you accept bank credit (aka Federal reserve credit)? Governed by the federal reserve act, a creation of CONgress and as such can be regulated/controlled/taxed including those who benefit from its emissions under the commerce clause. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1284970 Central Bank Authority: McCulloch v. Maryland, 17 U.S. 316 (1819), Congresses ability to charter corporations. Authority to tax bank credit: Veazie Bank v. Fenno, 75 U.S. 533 (1869), Indirect taxing clause, Commerce Clause, Coined money and Borrowed money clause OR Did you accept lawful money of the U.S.. Governed by the Constitution Article 1 section 8 clause 2 & 5 Your paycheck is essentially a "bill of credit" if you redeem it for bank credit you engage in a voluntary taxable activity. Bank credit competes with congresses EXCLUSIVE authority to control the monetary system. When you drink from that well you have to play by their rules and taxes. When you drink from the well setup by the Constitution you are protected from the taxes by the direct tax clauses. Very well put! The endorsement creates the "taxable event" the demand for lawful money/non-endorsement creates not only a non-taxble event, it makes me the creditor and the US Treasury the DEBTOR. Simply put, every dollar I demand redeemed for my labor, goods and services counts as a DEBT owed to me by the US Treasury. That is right, THEY OWE ME the money, because I refuse to accept Federal Reserve Credit in return for my labor, goods and services! Think about the ramifications of that! If folks were aware of this sleight of hand deception and took action to remedy it. The economic problems of this country would be wiped out rapidly. People could stop being in perpetual debt, begin to have savings, keep moms at home to raise the kids if need be, form capital, start new business, expand existing business, unemployment would drop like a rock, welfare roles would shrink. Everything the government and TPTB hate. Because they want debt, bondage, control, and power. NOT responsible self sufficient people. The Federal reserve IS slavery, the world is the plantation. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 20901334 United States 12/19/2012 11:56 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Pay No Taxes legally -End the FED -synopsis page 8-Why are waiting for someone to do it for us like Ron paul You guys are dealing with the IRS and it has unlimited funding and power. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 169265 That is actually false, "we" (those demanding redemption of Federal Reserve credit for "lawful money") are actually dealing with the US Treasury and they owe us money. When the Government (treasury) owes ME money, it puts me in the position of power, not them. They are the debtor now!! And no earthly organization of people has "unlimited power" nor "funding". Stop with the grandstanding. The IRS loses cases in court, I personally know people who have done it. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 20901334 United States 12/22/2012 07:20 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Pay No Taxes legally -End the FED -synopsis page 8-Why are waiting for someone to do it for us like Ron paul i've been reading about redemption for lawful money, i've been depositing money for a while now 'for credit on account or exchanged for lawful.. and all checks redeemed for lawful money, but how do i fill out the 1040 form, do u have an example 1040 Quoting: guest 16220409 go to [link to savingtosuitorsclub.net] plenty of people to help you out there. It is pretty simple and can be done with the 1040. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1284970 United States 12/22/2012 07:22 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Pay No Taxes legally -End the FED -synopsis page 8-Why are waiting for someone to do it for us like Ron paul You might start here. [link to savingtosuitorsclub.net] As always it is up to you to do own due diligence. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 1310979 United States 12/27/2012 05:22 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Pay No Taxes legally -End the FED -synopsis page 8-Why are waiting for someone to do it for us like Ron paul You might start here. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1284970 [link to savingtosuitorsclub.net] As always it is up to you to do own due diligence. Be careful of that site it might be a government sting operation. |
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708 User ID: 20901334 United States 12/29/2012 12:29 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Pay No Taxes legally -End the FED -synopsis page 8-Why are waiting for someone to do it for us like Ron paul You might start here. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1284970 [link to savingtosuitorsclub.net] As always it is up to you to do own due diligence. Be careful of that site it might be a government sting operation. HAHAAHAHHAH!! PLEASE! That site is the furthest thing from a "government operation" there possibly could be! Someone, anyone, please come up with a reasonable and provable argument AGAINST demand for lawful money per 12 USC 411. I do admit, the laughs I am getting from the opposition are worth it!!! |
seeker2 User ID: 31168593 United States 12/30/2012 05:44 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Pay No Taxes legally -End the FED -synopsis page 8-Why are waiting for someone to do it for us like Ron paul You might start here. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1284970 [link to savingtosuitorsclub.net] As always it is up to you to do own due diligence. Be careful of that site it might be a government sting operation. HAHAAHAHHAH!! PLEASE! That site is the furthest thing from a "government operation" there possibly could be! Someone, anyone, please come up with a reasonable and provable argument AGAINST demand for lawful money per 12 USC 411. I do admit, the laughs I am getting from the opposition are worth it!!! You can't pay for this kind of entertainment. lol They can't come up with an argument that is reasonable and provable because there is nun. sk Keep on keeping on. Happy holidays, everyone. |
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Neo1 User ID: 31312749 Brazil 01/01/2013 11:54 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Pay No Taxes legally -End the FED -synopsis page 8-Why are waiting for someone to do it for us like Ron paul Irrecusable obligation, which according to 'Bouvier's Law Dictionary' (1914 ed.), is "a term used to indicate a certain class of contractual obligations recognized by the law which are imposed upon a person without his consent and without regard to any act of his own." This is distinguished from a recusable obligation which, according to Bouvier, arises from a voluntary act by which one incurs the obligation imposed by the operation of law. The Income Tax succinctly described is an irrecusable obligation. However, if anyone else accepts this private credit and uses it to purchase goods and services, the user voluntarily incurs the obligation requiring him to make a return of income whereby a portion of the income is collected by the IRS and delivered to the Federal Reserve banksters. Actually the federal income tax imparts two separate obligations: the obligation to file a return and the obligation to abide by the Internal Revenue Code. The obligation to make a return of income for using private credit is recognized in law as an irrecusable obligation. The voluntary use of private credit is the condition precedent which imposes the irrecusable obligation to file a tax return. If private credit is not used or rejected, then the operation of law which imposes the irrecusable obligation lies dormant and cannot apply. A Banksters defeatism (realization of defeat) nightmare, Being forced to Return to Real Money=United States Note=Lawful Money, Use the Remedy within the Federal Reserve Act. Redeemed 12USC411, Refusal Penalty 12USC501a [link to savingtosuitorsclub.net] Stop being a Slave!!!!!! This is Tax Free Money!!!!!!!! www.stormthunder.com |