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The World at War, Official 2011 war thread for North Korea, Iran, Israel, China, U.S.

 
Mossad Agent's Friend (OP)
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High alert northern command in Israel, but I have lowered the War Index to 10.9 as Katyusha Missiles are not enough yet to provoke Regional War.
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i would lower it further as it's confirmed they weren't fired by hezbollah but by a sunni islamist group.
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The missiles were actually fired from a restricted Hezbollah sector where others are not permitted to be without Hezbollah permission. The missiles were from Hezbollah but they used poor Palestinians from a neighboring camp who get paid after the mission. Thus, it was merely a warning and an initial phase. There is some suggestion that the next round could come from the Syrian side of the Golan again by Palestinian terrorists.

Friends say that Israel will be even more bold next time in response, but odds are that they will not catch the culprits red-handed and unless the Hezbollah or Syria wish to up the ante it would be more of what was obserevd last night.
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Fired from Lebanon or the Golan?
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south lebanon. palestinian refugee camp.
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just the geographical location is going to be enough...anything out of lebanon will be seen as from Hezbollah regardless of group association
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Fired from Lebanon or the Golan?
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south lebanon. palestinian refugee camp.
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just the geographical location is going to be enough...anything out of lebanon will be seen as from Hezbollah regardless of group association
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ehud barak is pretty patient with shit like this. too patient, i'd say, but that's just me.
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Fired from Lebanon or the Golan?
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south lebanon. palestinian refugee camp.
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just the geographical location is going to be enough...anything out of lebanon will be seen as from Hezbollah regardless of group association
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ehud barak is pretty patient with shit like this. too patient, i'd say, but that's just me.
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Prior to 2006, Israel was faced with many times weekly attacks from the Hezbollah and the north did not have the security they wished for. They still do not have the security, but after 2006, there have been very few missiles launched, for a reason. NOW, the Hezbollah and Assad would like to re-start the game of constant minnie clashes on the Israel northern border for many reasons. Just enough to provoke Israeli responses to boil the arab anger and keep the media off of Syria and Iran. Perhaps Israel is waiting for the right time to respond back in an agressive way. Then again, Barak allowed the skirmishes to continue on the northern border for some time.
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south lebanon. palestinian refugee camp.
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just the geographical location is going to be enough...anything out of lebanon will be seen as from Hezbollah regardless of group association
 Quoting: godzilla85


ehud barak is pretty patient with shit like this. too patient, i'd say, but that's just me.
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Prior to 2006, Israel was faced with many times weekly attacks from the Hezbollah and the north did not have the security they wished for. They still do not have the security, but after 2006, there have been very few missiles launched, for a reason. NOW, the Hezbollah and Assad would like to re-start the game of constant minnie clashes on the Israel northern border for many reasons. Just enough to provoke Israeli responses to boil the arab anger and keep the media off of Syria and Iran. Perhaps Israel is waiting for the right time to respond back in an agressive way. Then again, Barak allowed the skirmishes to continue on the northern border for some time.
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well bibi is in charge now...maybe he's got more balls than barak...one can only hope
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aint nothing gonna happend yet
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just the geographical location is going to be enough...anything out of lebanon will be seen as from Hezbollah regardless of group association
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ehud barak is pretty patient with shit like this. too patient, i'd say, but that's just me.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 5912994


Prior to 2006, Israel was faced with many times weekly attacks from the Hezbollah and the north did not have the security they wished for. They still do not have the security, but after 2006, there have been very few missiles launched, for a reason. NOW, the Hezbollah and Assad would like to re-start the game of constant minnie clashes on the Israel northern border for many reasons. Just enough to provoke Israeli responses to boil the arab anger and keep the media off of Syria and Iran. Perhaps Israel is waiting for the right time to respond back in an agressive way. Then again, Barak allowed the skirmishes to continue on the northern border for some time.
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well bibi is in charge now...maybe he's got more balls than barak...one can only hope
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barak is making these calls, i'd assume. he's minister of defence and ex-idf chief of staff, so it would have to be a massive agreement to lead bibi to overrrule him. coalition government makes the israeli pm not as powerful as you might think.
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ehud barak is pretty patient with shit like this. too patient, i'd say, but that's just me.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 5912994


Prior to 2006, Israel was faced with many times weekly attacks from the Hezbollah and the north did not have the security they wished for. They still do not have the security, but after 2006, there have been very few missiles launched, for a reason. NOW, the Hezbollah and Assad would like to re-start the game of constant minnie clashes on the Israel northern border for many reasons. Just enough to provoke Israeli responses to boil the arab anger and keep the media off of Syria and Iran. Perhaps Israel is waiting for the right time to respond back in an agressive way. Then again, Barak allowed the skirmishes to continue on the northern border for some time.
 Quoting: Mossad Agent's Friend 1163600


well bibi is in charge now...maybe he's got more balls than barak...one can only hope
 Quoting: godzilla85


barak is making these calls, i'd assume. he's minister of defence and ex-idf chief of staff, so it would have to be a massive agreement to lead bibi to overrrule him. coalition government makes the israeli pm not as powerful as you might think.
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thanks for clearing it up, was not aware power was spread that way in their govt.
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At some point Israel is going to have to stop letting Iran,Syria,Hamas and Hezbollah call the shots. Those nations and groups fire when they want and then yell ceasefire and Israel always stops firing. Israel need to unload the next time. Let's say Hezbollah shoots a few more rockets into Israel in the next few days...then The Israeli Air Force should hit some targets that will hurt. Let's say some main Hezbollah bases in Lebanon or a major Lebanese military base and send a clear message that this stuff if gonna stop.

With Hamas....Israel should have already hit the main headquarters in Syria. Or at the very least gone after the very top leadership of Hamas and taken care of business.

Netanyahu is a smart man but....he needs to let the IDF/IAF do what they need to do to secure the safety of Israel. Nothing less than a major military strike on one of these nations or groups is going to work. Maybe he is getting to that point...For Israel's sake I hope so.
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WAR INDEX 10.5[/b]
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pretty much prime missile-launching time: midnight in israel and lebanon
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pretty much prime missile-launching time: midnight in israel and lebanon
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Yup, that is what they are saying, they actually have drones looking, I would hate to be a UN soldier in the wrong place at the wrong time.
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pretty much prime missile-launching time: midnight in israel and lebanon
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Yup, that is what they are saying, they actually have drones looking, I would hate to be a UN soldier in the wrong place at the wrong time.
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hezbollah should be more worried...UN should just be getting out of the way
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Quiet.

WAR INDEX 9.9

Hope I did not jinx it.
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Germany and US call for further UN action on Syria in a Rebuff to Russias recent comments that Syria should not be given Ultimatiums.
Fact are important, They should be presented first, opinions will vary.
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Can't go much higher without all-out war. Reason it was raised is that publicly we all now know that a second nuclear site was bombed in Iran. Now the Iranian people know too. The Mullah will want revenge and they will push the Hezbollah to seek that revenge one way or another.
Israel moved three brigades north based upon fear of Iranian backlash on the latest attack. After the next attack, it will be much worse than a four round volley. There will be another attack. Israel and US special forces are doing what before people expected would be an all-out attack by Israel through air and open to public knowledge. This war is different and the list of locations to be hit is countless. The first option was tod estroy offensive missiles. The next was to try to reduce the chances of speeding up uranium enrichment to 90%, that continues. They need to also hit the storage based of the 20% uranium and that may be coming any hour. Israel knows the risks, but if Iran could be slowed down by this mechanism (drones, special forces, and satellite lasers) then they will continue this phase until Iran says enough is enough and lashes out.
Meanwhile, Syria is still deciding whether to lash out at Israel for fear of Assad losing his life in the next few months.
Though there amy not be an outbreak of regional war, there is a war going on.
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Can't go much higher without all-out war. Reason it was raised is that publicly we all now know that a second nuclear site was bombed in Iran. Now the Iranian people know too. The Mullah will want revenge and they will push the Hezbollah to seek that revenge one way or another.
Israel moved three brigades north based upon fear of Iranian backlash on the latest attack. After the next attack, it will be much worse than a four round volley. There will be another attack. Israel and US special forces are doing what before people expected would be an all-out attack by Israel through air and open to public knowledge. This war is different and the list of locations to be hit is countless. The first option was tod estroy offensive missiles. The next was to try to reduce the chances of speeding up uranium enrichment to 90%, that continues. They need to also hit the storage based of the 20% uranium and that may be coming any hour. Israel knows the risks, but if Iran could be slowed down by this mechanism (drones, special forces, and satellite lasers) then they will continue this phase until Iran says enough is enough and lashes out.
Meanwhile, Syria is still deciding whether to lash out at Israel for fear of Assad losing his life in the next few months.
Though there amy not be an outbreak of regional war, there is a war going on.
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bump
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Ehud Barak said today that war with Iran is not imminent...thats when I might worry


but then what do all the psy-ops and mind fuckery really accomplish ? the advantage of surprise ?

its all bullshit...the human race is a laughingstock of its galaxy
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WAR INDEX 10.2
Can't go much higher without all-out war. Reason it was raised is that publicly we all now know that a second nuclear site was bombed in Iran. Now the Iranian people know too. The Mullah will want revenge and they will push the Hezbollah to seek that revenge one way or another.
Israel moved three brigades north based upon fear of Iranian backlash on the latest attack. After the next attack, it will be much worse than a four round volley. There will be another attack. Israel and US special forces are doing what before people expected would be an all-out attack by Israel through air and open to public knowledge. This war is different and the list of locations to be hit is countless. The first option was tod estroy offensive missiles. The next was to try to reduce the chances of speeding up uranium enrichment to 90%, that continues. They need to also hit the storage based of the 20% uranium and that may be coming any hour. Israel knows the risks, but if Iran could be slowed down by this mechanism (drones, special forces, and satellite lasers) then they will continue this phase until Iran says enough is enough and lashes out.
Meanwhile, Syria is still deciding whether to lash out at Israel for fear of Assad losing his life in the next few months.
Though there may not be an outbreak of regional war, there is a war going on.
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Though there may not be an outbreak of regional war, there is a war going on.
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Was there a second explosion at Isafah this morning, or are these just old reports about the first explosion from several days ago?
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Was there a second explosion at Isafah this morning, or are these just old reports about the first explosion from several days ago?
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just as confused on this as you are...and OP hasn't been around for a couple of days it seems....OP some info would be great right about now. 5a
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Would be interested in updates, MM or OP

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Kinda not fun getting the Obama goons visiting my computer and seeking to destroy my ability to get back to Israel when I wish. Friends, the goons do not want the truth out there. I have been told that Obama intends to let Iran go nuclear and there is nothing that Israel can do. In fact Obama has told Israel through the non-dainty and instead mighty sized woman Hillary and the very dainty light in the loafers Panetta that Israel must tow the line of the O administration with the promise of protection from the U.S. if ever Iran launches a missile towards Israel. Well, what about the F'n nukes given to terrorists or what about the F'n nukes launched against the U.S. to detonate an emp blast that will end this fabulous internet for which we all yearn to get to each morning to share the morsels of freedom which will soon be taken away from us all.
I hate to say but Obama is smiling in bed tonight, but notbecasue he actually had sex with a woman, but instead becasuehe knows he has permitted the spread of Islam at the most radical level to most nations in the Middleeast. That way he feels Israel will be destroyed within two years.
My Israeli friends, you are soon to face the fish or cut bait syndrome, either destroy iranian nuclear plans or you will be digging your own graves for the millions of jewish people in Israel that will face nuclear war.
My friends in Israel insist that bibi is smart enough to know that Obama wants a new holocaust. They insist that Iran will soon be decimated. They fear though that Syria is lcoked and loaded to strike Israel with Sarin in the coming weeks. Horrible plans coming forthright.
I cannot trust any right now with badges beng flashed at my neighbors, agents sifting through my garbage, my credit cards being inactivated, and my security clearance and ability to fly taken away. This is war and israel faces war. Save your food as hell is coming soon.
I cannot emphasize that they are out to kill all christians and their jewish brothers and soon. WHo? Obama and his freinds that he negotiated a private agreement with, Iran.
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Kinda not fun getting the Obama goons visiting my computer and seeking to destroy my ability to get back to Israel when I wish. Friends, the goons do not want the truth out there. I have been told that Obama intends to let Iran go nuclear and there is nothing that Israel can do. In fact Obama has told Israel through the non-dainty and instead mighty sized woman Hillary and the very dainty light in the loafers Panetta that Israel must tow the line of the O administration with the promise of protection from the U.S. if ever Iran launches a missile towards Israel. Well, what about the F'n nukes given to terrorists or what about the F'n nukes launched against the U.S. to detonate an emp blast that will end this fabulous internet for which we all yearn to get to each morning to share the morsels of freedom which will soon be taken away from us all.
I hate to say but Obama is smiling in bed tonight, but notbecasue he actually had sex with a woman, but instead becasuehe knows he has permitted the spread of Islam at the most radical level to most nations in the Middleeast. That way he feels Israel will be destroyed within two years.
My Israeli friends, you are soon to face the fish or cut bait syndrome, either destroy iranian nuclear plans or you will be digging your own graves for the millions of jewish people in Israel that will face nuclear war.
My friends in Israel insist that bibi is smart enough to know that Obama wants a new holocaust. They insist that Iran will soon be decimated. They fear though that Syria is lcoked and loaded to strike Israel with Sarin in the coming weeks. Horrible plans coming forthright.
I cannot trust any right now with badges beng flashed at my neighbors, agents sifting through my garbage, my credit cards being inactivated, and my security clearance and ability to fly taken away. This is war and israel faces war. Save your food as hell is coming soon.
I cannot emphasize that they are out to kill all christians and their jewish brothers and soon. WHo? Obama and his freinds that he negotiated a private agreement with, Iran.
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yeahsure
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OK Mossad Agents Friend,im calling you out on this one.Youre so full of shit.s226.Scare-mongering at its best.Tell me,do you work for Fox news?
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While gone, things calmed down slightly around the middle east. Though tensions continue to build, the wild-card actions such as launching some katyushas has died down. Instead, we have had Israeli spy devices discovered and then exploded to prevent capture by the Hezbollah. We have had Assad launch a SCUD B and perform some military maneuvers. He too issued a threat for Turkey and Israel. At the same time he is trying to appear a acceptable to a set of peace monitors. Meanwhile, Iran has gathered all the evidence it needs to prove an outside source is already at war with her. She too has captured a drone allegedly owned by the U.S. Instead, that drone was Israeli, but persons were smart enough to remove sings of Israeli ownership and instead it has U.S. parts. Iran and its leaders are fuming. That is why Syria performed military maneuvers this past weekend, cause Iran warned them that the time is near for war.
Meanwhile, the U.S. keeps trying to force Israel to withhold an attack on Iran. Behind the scenes, Obama and Hillary are trying every means to overthrow Bibi and his government and force in a new government more to their liking. In public they too are stirring the pot. Bibi for his point is so certain that his government has the support of Israelis that he is willing to go to elections soon. The reasoning is to achieve the support of Israel for the purpose of the current government, to protect Israel from a nuclear Iran. There will be bloodshed in Israel and the government wants the kiss of approval for such bloodshed. At the same time, attacking a nation such as Iran, will stir up the left where they will call for elections. That has not been the call yet, instead Bibi wants elections to proceed early and announced so that when the war comes, perhaps the elections are soon to come but after, and as long as Bibi and Israel survive he knows he will get elected.
What is even more ominous is that now Israel is conducting drills near the Lebanese border, again. This is not merely for show, but instead reinforcements for any action coming from Syria, Hezbollah and/or Iran, but not just out of caution, it usually proceeds further military action by Israel which they want to be prepared for the backlash on.
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While gone, things calmed down slightly around the middle east. Though tensions continue to build, the wild-card actions such as launching some katyushas has died down. Instead, we have had Israeli spy devices discovered and then exploded to prevent capture by the Hezbollah. We have had Assad launch a SCUD B and perform some military maneuvers. He too issued a threat for Turkey and Israel. At the same time he is trying to appear a acceptable to a set of peace monitors. Meanwhile, Iran has gathered all the evidence it needs to prove an outside source is already at war with her. She too has captured a drone allegedly owned by the U.S. Instead, that drone was Israeli, but persons were smart enough to remove sings of Israeli ownership and instead it has U.S. parts. Iran and its leaders are fuming. That is why Syria performed military maneuvers this past weekend, cause Iran warned them that the time is near for war.
Meanwhile, the U.S. keeps trying to force Israel to withhold an attack on Iran. Behind the scenes, Obama and Hillary are trying every means to overthrow Bibi and his government and force in a new government more to their liking. In public they too are stirring the pot. Bibi for his point is so certain that his government has the support of Israelis that he is willing to go to elections soon. The reasoning is to achieve the support of Israel for the purpose of the current government, to protect Israel from a nuclear Iran. There will be bloodshed in Israel and the government wants the kiss of approval for such bloodshed. At the same time, attacking a nation such as Iran, will stir up the left where they will call for elections. That has not been the call yet, instead Bibi wants elections to proceed early and announced so that when the war comes, perhaps the elections are soon to come but after, and as long as Bibi and Israel survive he knows he will get elected.
What is even more ominous is that now Israel is conducting drills near the Lebanese border, again. This is not merely for show, but instead reinforcements for any action coming from Syria, Hezbollah and/or Iran, but not just out of caution, it usually proceeds further military action by Israel which they want to be prepared for the backlash on.
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WAR INDEX 10.6
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