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Iran has secretly tested nuclear-capable missiles – UK Foreign Secretary
DEBKAfile Special Report June 29, 2011, 5:14 PM (GMT+02:00)

British Foreign Secretary William Hague stated Wednesday, June 29: "Iran has also been carrying out covert ballistic missile tests and rocket launches, including testing missiles capable of delivering a nuclear payload in contravention of UN resolution 1929."

This was reported first by debkafile last year and repeated in the face of US and Israeli denials. Hague was the first Western leader to confirm debkafile disclosures up to and including our report Tuesday on Iran's 10-day exercise. Our military sources stressed that Iran's plan to launch a monkey into space – and therefore a 330-kilo payload - by the Kavoshgar-5 was evidence that it had developed a rocket capable of delivering a nuclear warhead at any point on the planet.

Hague also pointed out in a statement to parliament that Iran had announced plans to triple its capacity to produce 20 percent enriched uranium - "enrichment levels far greater than is needed for peaceful nuclear energy."

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US and NATO prepare final assault on Qaddafi. He threatens terror
DEBKAfile Exclusive Report July 2, 2011, 10:45 PM (GMT+02:00)


Libyan Ruler Muammar Qaddafi may have been bluffing when he said "The Libyan people are capable one day of taking the battle to Europe and the Mediterranean [chiefly Italy and France]" if NATO continues its air strikes, and …"throwing ourselves on Europe like swarms of locusts or bees" to attack "your homes, your offices, your families [who] would become legitimate military targets because you have transformed our offices, headquarters, homes and children into military targets which you say are legitimate."

But the threat he relayed by audio to a huge pro-government rally in Tripoli Friday, July 1,may not be just a scare tactic but his last warning for NATO to abandon its large-scale, all-out military bid to kill or oust him, which debkafile's military sources report is in its last stage of planning.
The coming coup de grace, expected in the next couple of weeks, is the hottest topic of discussion in the corridors of power and high-level military and intelligence get-togethers in London, Paris, Brussels, Moscow, Oslo, The Hague and Rome. It is expected to start in a couple of weeks with French and British troop landings on Libyan soil, to be followed in its last stages of by American forces.

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US and NATO prepare final assault on Qaddafi. He threatens terror
DEBKAfile Exclusive Report July 2, 2011, 10:45 PM (GMT+02:00)


Libyan Ruler Muammar Qaddafi may have been bluffing when he said "The Libyan people are capable one day of taking the battle to Europe and the Mediterranean [chiefly Italy and France]" if NATO continues its air strikes, and …"throwing ourselves on Europe like swarms of locusts or bees" to attack "your homes, your offices, your families [who] would become legitimate military targets because you have transformed our offices, headquarters, homes and children into military targets which you say are legitimate."

But the threat he relayed by audio to a huge pro-government rally in Tripoli Friday, July 1,may not be just a scare tactic but his last warning for NATO to abandon its large-scale, all-out military bid to kill or oust him, which debkafile's military sources report is in its last stage of planning.
The coming coup de grace, expected in the next couple of weeks, is the hottest topic of discussion in the corridors of power and high-level military and intelligence get-togethers in London, Paris, Brussels, Moscow, Oslo, The Hague and Rome. It is expected to start in a couple of weeks with French and British troop landings on Libyan soil, to be followed in its last stages of by American forces.

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this is all about peak cheap light sweet oil which Libya has

most of Saudi Arabias reserves left are sour heavy crude

any future major wars will be fought over oil which is needed to fuel the Great Ponzi Scheme
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Iran tests anti-warship missiles

Published: 07.06.11, 12:16 / Israel News

Iran's Revolutionary Guards tested several missiles at sea on Wednesday, including the supersonic anti-warship Khalij Fars missile, the Iranian television network Alalam reported.


According to the report, two Khalij Fars missiles were fired as part of the drill; these ballistic missiles were presented for the first time last February, and are reportedly capable of hitting a target at a 300 km distance at a speed of Mach 3. (AFP)

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BREAKING . . .

There is discussions that someone is leaking an important intelligence paper on Israel and Iran to be released sometime soon, stand by.
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BREAKING . . .

There is discussions that someone is leaking an important intelligence paper on Israel and Iran to be released sometime soon, stand by.
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Is it something that would trigger war or just some of the same stuff we have been hearing on Iran's nuke program?
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BREAKING . . .

There is discussions that someone is leaking an important intelligence paper on Israel and Iran to be released sometime soon, stand by.
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what would the intelligence entail?
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BREAKING . . .

There is discussions that someone is leaking an important intelligence paper on Israel and Iran to be released sometime soon, stand by.
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Standing by....
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I did get the following but no sources or discussion of where it came from will be granted to anyone.

OPERATION PERSIAN SUMMER
Friendly forces from multiple nations are staged within the Middle east to advance Operation Persian Summer. Unfortunately, many nations are not provided much detail other than the actions are a training mission until further notice. Forces are currently in a defensive array allegedly conducting defensive drills, said member nations of this operation are in effect strengthening defenses and solidifying their capabilities for a date and time certain to become fully operational but many nations have little knowledge that the coming months will require certain actions more than simple war games but true combat.

The Persian Summer will require multiple nations to coordinate operations of each of its forces for defensive action from missiles, patrol boats, submarines, and land based troops. More important is the fact that two key nations shall be conducting offensive operations against Persia. The offensive operations will actually include other nations but in only small numbers. Only one nation at most will publicly permit acknowledgment of the coming attacks when all is said and done, Israel. Fewer than twenty people know the true details of the coming action, but multiple parties know simply bits and pieces at most to know of the war games, but not enough to know that true combat will occur.

From the intell gathered, here is what to expect.
Israel will be attacking Iran before September of this year. She will use her submarines to launch missiles and deploy special forces. She too will use private boats to launch helicopters and troops on secret missions. Over the past two years Israel has advanced a large fleet of drone planes to further launch multiple phased air attacks on Iran that will be launched from Saudi air-space. There too will be Israeli manned bombers and fighters launched in multiple prongs from various air bases along with Saudi planes, drones, and missiles. Apart from that response will be the United States who will simply provide a defensive shield without taking on direct offensive operations. Instead, the United States will be the first to signal disapproval with the combat and evoke measures to keep the Persian Summer from unraveling into a huge war by giving Israel a window of less than 12 hours to withdraw all offensive forces and end hostilities. At the end of the twelve hour time period, the U.S. will close Iranian/Saudi/Iraqi/ Syrian/Lebanese/ and ISRAELI airspace to all air-traffic and announce a no-fly zone. This in effect will prevent all nations from joining in and keep Iran and Israel separated. From there, the U.S. will likewise act on any missile launches from these areas protecting Israel and her neighbors but limiting actions of the U.S. until all hostilities cease. From there, it is expected that Israel will have accomplished much of what she wishes to move Iran back twenty years in time on her nuclear development. It is also hoped that said actions would provoke an Arab Spring within Iran which will lead to a regime change there too.

Once the Person Summer begins, Israel trusts that the U.S. will stand by her word on letting Israel “swing away” for up to ten hours. However, there is already distrust that Obama may act much sooner, thus strangling Israel’s ability to smother Iran with many many sorties and ground operations of quick hits and jumps to the next destinations.

What will Israel do in return? Israel will jointly agree to a PALESTINIAN statehood in the UN in September.
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I do know the strike package against Iran is accurately aimed to begin in ate August 2011.

Check this out!

2012: Iran's Atomic Day-Dreams
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Iran's supreme leader Ayatollah Khameni has ordered the revolutionary guards to "immediately" proceed with the completion of an atomic bomb with hopes of a test in 2012, Iran Press News reports.



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Ok, so the powers that be have convinced GLP to ban me from my other access as I am too close to right on the coming war. It is coming by mid-September, but much more likely in August at or about the 26th through the 30th.

BEWARE!
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I did get the following but no sources or discussion of where it came from will be granted to anyone.

OPERATION PERSIAN SUMMER
Friendly forces from multiple nations are staged within the Middle east to advance Operation Persian Summer. Unfortunately, many nations are not provided much detail other than the actions are a training mission until further notice. Forces are currently in a defensive array allegedly conducting defensive drills, said member nations of this operation are in effect strengthening defenses and solidifying their capabilities for a date and time certain to become fully operational but many nations have little knowledge that the coming months will require certain actions more than simple war games but true combat.

The Persian Summer will require multiple nations to coordinate operations of each of its forces for defensive action from missiles, patrol boats, submarines, and land based troops. More important is the fact that two key nations shall be conducting offensive operations against Persia. The offensive operations will actually include other nations but in only small numbers. Only one nation at most will publicly permit acknowledgment of the coming attacks when all is said and done, Israel. Fewer than twenty people know the true details of the coming action, but multiple parties know simply bits and pieces at most to know of the war games, but not enough to know that true combat will occur.

From the intell gathered, here is what to expect.
Israel will be attacking Iran before September of this year. She will use her submarines to launch missiles and deploy special forces. She too will use private boats to launch helicopters and troops on secret missions. Over the past two years Israel has advanced a large fleet of drone planes to further launch multiple phased air attacks on Iran that will be launched from Saudi air-space. There too will be Israeli manned bombers and fighters launched in multiple prongs from various air bases along with Saudi planes, drones, and missiles. Apart from that response will be the United States who will simply provide a defensive shield without taking on direct offensive operations. Instead, the United States will be the first to signal disapproval with the combat and evoke measures to keep the Persian Summer from unraveling into a huge war by giving Israel a window of less than 12 hours to withdraw all offensive forces and end hostilities. At the end of the twelve hour time period, the U.S. will close Iranian/Saudi/Iraqi/ Syrian/Lebanese/ and ISRAELI airspace to all air-traffic and announce a no-fly zone. This in effect will prevent all nations from joining in and keep Iran and Israel separated. From there, the U.S. will likewise act on any missile launches from these areas protecting Israel and her neighbors but limiting actions of the U.S. until all hostilities cease. From there, it is expected that Israel will have accomplished much of what she wishes to move Iran back twenty years in time on her nuclear development. It is also hoped that said actions would provoke an Arab Spring within Iran which will lead to a regime change there too.

Once the Person Summer begins, Israel trusts that the U.S. will stand by her word on letting Israel “swing away” for up to ten hours. However, there is already distrust that Obama may act much sooner, thus strangling Israel’s ability to smother Iran with many many sorties and ground operations of quick hits and jumps to the next destinations.

What will Israel do in return? Israel will jointly agree to a PALESTINIAN statehood in the UN in September.

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knew it...all the pieces falling into place

if US doesnt get its way....it will take down the world with it
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question :

so the U.S. thinks it can run a nice sterile operation, shutting down airspace after 12 hours, after letting Israel "swing away" ?


sorry...but it doesnt work that way

like stuffing Pandora back into his box

history is littered with "neatly planned" wars
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There is MAJOR economic/monetary doom forecast for the end of July/beginning of August.
There is MAJOR warfare doom forecast for the end of August/beginning of September.
If one of the comet Elenin reports is true, and why not, MAJOR, MAJOR doom is forecast for late September/early October. The comet, that is supposed to be 47,000 KM's in diameter, will come between Earth and the Sun in late September and will block the sunlight for three days. Later the Earth is supposed to go through the tail of the comet, bringing a shower of small fragments into the Earth's atmosphere, and causing the Sun to shine as through a sack - sounds a lot like Revelation 6:12.

All that in such a short time? Could be. Anyway, we are in for some "interesting" times.
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VERY INTERESTING TIMES INDEED!!!rockon
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Russia: NATO close to military steps in Syria for beachhead to attack Iran
DEBKAfile Special Report August 5, 2011, 12:39 PM (GMT+02:00)


Twelve hours after Russian President Dmitry Medvedev warned Assad he faced a "sad fate" if he failed to introduce reforms, Moscow's envoy to NATO Dmitry Rogozin accused the Western alliance of planning a military campaign against Syria to help overthrow the Assad regime "with the long-reaching goal of preparing a beachhead for an attack on Iran."


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From Thread: North Korea fired artillery fire in South Korean waters

North Korea shells South Korean waters.

and

North Korea sends hit team into S.K. to kill minister Kim (SK. defense minister)
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Here it comes, the attack is a coming very quickly!
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I think she is a little chunky..dark hair....short..5 foot 2 or so....
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PA next, Hezbollah next, Iran next.
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PA next, Hezbollah next, Iran next.
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MM will this lead into an attack on Hezbollah and Syria in the next few days by Israel?
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North Korea sends hit team into S.K. to kill minister Kim (SK. defense minister)
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inside job. yawn
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Egyptian ambassador in Israel called to Cairo. Large protests in the streets of Cairo because of Israeli military killing 5 Egyptian police/military in the Negev, while hunting for more infiltrators who did this bus shooting.
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Israel is extremely close to unleashing its well-planned belated attack on Iran. The countdown clock is at days before they pass the final window of opportunity to have a decisive blow against the Iranian nuclear program.

Iran is to start-up the delayed nuclear plant in the coming weeks. Iran is currenty moving all of its centrifuges into its Nantz underground vault. The moon is to soon be new. Iran knows that Israel is primed to attack, that is why they have pushed elements to attack from Egypt and Gaza. They are hoping to delay Israel and get its nukes and all equipment into safe sites. Iran knows that if Israel was to attack it would be within days too or else Israel has lost its window of opportunity and Iran will fulfill its dream of detonating a nuclear bomb.

What to look for is Iran unleashing the Hezbollah in coordination with more Gaza attacks and even West Bank attacks. Syria too may welcome heat on its border to hopefully keep western media off the murders occurring daily. They too hope to unit the kingdom by Israel being attacked.

Israel has not gone in to crush terrorists due to coordinating its forces for what is already planned. At the same time, the current heat plays inot Bib's hands as he can now start to call up troops under the guise of protecting ISrael during the PA's attempt at becoming a nation.

The chess game is getting very interesting as we see who tries for checkmate.
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Israel is extremely close to unleashing its well-planned belated attack on Iran. The countdown clock is at days before they pass the final window of opportunity to have a decisive blow against the Iranian nuclear program.

Iran is to start-up the delayed nuclear plant in the coming weeks. Iran is currenty moving all of its centrifuges into its Nantz underground vault. The moon is to soon be new. Iran knows that Israel is primed to attack, that is why they have pushed elements to attack from Egypt and Gaza. They are hoping to delay Israel and get its nukes and all equipment into safe sites. Iran knows that if Israel was to attack it would be within days too or else Israel has lost its window of opportunity and Iran will fulfill its dream of detonating a nuclear bomb.

What to look for is Iran unleashing the Hezbollah in coordination with more Gaza attacks and even West Bank attacks. Syria too may welcome heat on its border to hopefully keep western media off the murders occurring daily. They too hope to unit the kingdom by Israel being attacked.

Israel has not gone in to crush terrorists due to coordinating its forces for what is already planned. At the same time, the current heat plays inot Bib's hands as he can now start to call up troops under the guise of protecting ISrael during the PA's attempt at becoming a nation.

The chess game is getting very interesting as we see who tries for checkmate.
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Military Man......So is that the reason Israel hasn't gone into action in Gaza more severe? Also would you expect and Israeli attack this week or something from Hezbollah/Hamas? Whats the time frame in your estimate? Thanks!
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Israel is extremely close to unleashing its well-planned belated attack on Iran. The countdown clock is at days before they pass the final window of opportunity to have a decisive blow against the Iranian nuclear program.

Iran is to start-up the delayed nuclear plant in the coming weeks. Iran is currenty moving all of its centrifuges into its Nantz underground vault. The moon is to soon be new. Iran knows that Israel is primed to attack, that is why they have pushed elements to attack from Egypt and Gaza. They are hoping to delay Israel and get its nukes and all equipment into safe sites. Iran knows that if Israel was to attack it would be within days too or else Israel has lost its window of opportunity and Iran will fulfill its dream of detonating a nuclear bomb.

What to look for is Iran unleashing the Hezbollah in coordination with more Gaza attacks and even West Bank attacks. Syria too may welcome heat on its border to hopefully keep western media off the murders occurring daily. They too hope to unit the kingdom by Israel being attacked.

Israel has not gone in to crush terrorists due to coordinating its forces for what is already planned. At the same time, the current heat plays inot Bib's hands as he can now start to call up troops under the guise of protecting ISrael during the PA's attempt at becoming a nation.

The chess game is getting very interesting as we see who tries for checkmate.
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Military Man......So is that the reason Israel hasn't gone into action in Gaza more severe? Also would you expect and Israeli attack this week or something from Hezbollah/Hamas? Whats the time frame in your estimate? Thanks!
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Next weekend is Israel's most opportune window of opportunity until mid September, but Israel's Defense strategists argue that waiting until mid September is too long of a wait. Thus, all actions are being aimed for this coming weekend. I would expect Iran to unleash the Hezbollah in the coming days if Assad gets close to being atatcked by NATO. I too would expect the Hez to be unleashed if Iran sees anything unusual occuring in the gulf.

Things are in play now. Israel hopes to delay the nuclear plant one more time and has some operatives ready to hit several underground chambers, if successful Israel will be able tod elay, but if unsuccessful, Israel will have to immediately act.
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would the attack be strictly conventional or is there a possibility of the use of nuclear weapons to destroy sites that are farther away from civilian population centers?

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you would think Iran would have moved those centrifuges underground a long time ago in case of surprise attack


hard to believe any info...so much disinfo
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Thanks MM.
I already found it fishy that Israel did not go out in full force against Hamas in Gaza. Yep, we could be very close.
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would the attack be strictly conventional or is there a possibility of the use of nuclear weapons to destroy sites that are farther away from civilian population centers?
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Israel acquired many bunker busters from the U.S. since 2010. They then have "upgraded" several types. The "upgrade" bunker buster variants include an EMP style blast once detonated and another style has a low-grade nuclear weapon that would be difficult to detect as being a nuclear explosion and is intended to bury the detonation under ground for minimal above ground evidence.

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