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The World at War, Official 2011 war thread for North Korea, Iran, Israel, China, U.S.

 
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Is it possible that while the attacks were going on in Gaza that the defense meetings between Netanyahu and Barak were about Iran and not Gaza? Maybe we are hours or days away from an Israeli strike on Iran. Will Iran move Hezbollah or Hamas back into action first though.


Also the MSM has started focusing on Assad in Syria and his removal now that it looks like Gadahfi has fallen.
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you would think Iran would have moved those centrifuges underground a long time ago in case of surprise attack


hard to believe any info...so much disinfo
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That is the most difficult part of this all. Iran has had a duel clandestine military program that has not been public at all. Many theorize that Iran is already fully armed with nukes capable of being used as weapons, they are just trying to army themselves to the teeth prior to their use.
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Hey Military man two more quick questions? One is it possible in the next few days Israel could be attacked again from H,as or Hezbollah in order to divert attention from Iran and Syria? Lastly if Israel strikes what is the most likely time of day middle east time they would strike? I am thinking midnight to about 3 am Israeli time may be the darkest.
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Is it possible that while the attacks were going on in Gaza that the defense meetings between Netanyahu and Barak were about Iran and not Gaza? Maybe we are hours or days away from an Israeli strike on Iran. Will Iran move Hezbollah or Hamas back into action first though.


Also the MSM has started focusing on Assad in Syria and his removal now that it looks like Gadahfi has fallen.
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That has been part of the Israeli actions as of late - use a crises to their advantage, but Israel is not going to fully advertise what it is doing. The Knesset surely does not know what is happenning, and at best there is a whisper program going on to suggest there is more than meets the eyes.
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would the attack be strictly conventional or is there a possibility of the use of nuclear weapons to destroy sites that are farther away from civilian population centers?
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Israel acquired many bunker busters from the U.S. since 2010. They then have "upgraded" several types. The "upgrade" bunker buster variants include an EMP style blast once detonated and another style has a low-grade nuclear weapon that would be difficult to detect as being a nuclear explosion and is intended to bury the detonation under ground for minimal above ground evidence.
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I read an article about that....thought they had scrapped it and it was only theoretical...guess not.
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Hey Military man two more quick questions? One is it possible in the next few days Israel could be attacked again from H,as or Hezbollah in order to divert attention from Iran and Syria? Lastly if Israel strikes what is the most likely time of day middle east time they would strike? I am thinking midnight to about 3 am Israeli time may be the darkest.
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1. I would expect other attacks any day now. Iran was upset cause Hamas did not jump into the fray and make a bigger dent. Watch for attacks now from Jordan, Syria, and Lebanon by hit and run terror groups so that Israel is unsure who is actually doing the work. It is all an attempt at creating a conflagaration. At the same time, any attack from Lebanon or Syria where a missile falls harmlessly into Israel but allows Israel to up its response and deploy more troops could in fact be a ploy to allow Israel to move troops. (At the same time, troops have been moved anyhow though so I do not think Israel would attack itself at this point in time.)

2. I would expect that the troops and transports will be moving into place during this week when there is a new moon coming. I would expect the initial attack to be early morning hours near 2:00am Iranian time on Sunday/Monday time frame. It gives Israel a four hours of darkness for confusion and pickups from helicoptors, but then permits daylight operations for search and rescue soon thereafter as well as a second day-light mission for search and destroys on ballistic missiles not seen at night. Most missions will be done within a one hour period of time so the timetable could be moved to 3:00am.
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The Next thing I would look for is a terror alert in Israel and Saudi Arabia
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The Next thing I would look for is a terror alert in Israel and Saudi Arabia
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Do you have a time frame or any reason why?
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I would look for a terror alert as Israel justifies its movement of troops, helicopters, planes, and such as Israel will need a reason for such an increase in troops at her multiple borders.
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Well, Hamas rockets are flying again, after a short cease fire.
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I would look for a terror alert as Israel justifies its movement of troops, helicopters, planes, and such as Israel will need a reason for such an increase in troops at her multiple borders.
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MM....are we close to the time for it to happen?
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Iran stirs up new conflict: Its Iraqi terrorist arm shoots Scuds at Kuwait
DEBKAfile Exclusive Report August 26, 2011, 9:52 AM (GMT+02:00)

Three Scud missiles flying from Iraq to Kuwait early Friday, Aug. 26 were launched by the Iran-backed Ketaeb Hizballah of Iraq, the first such attacks since the US invaded Iraq in 2003. It was also the first time any Middle East terrorist group had used Scud missiles.
They exploded on open ground, but debkafile's sources report that this round was meant as a warning for Kuwait to halt construction of the Grand Mubarak Port opposite the Iraqi shore - or else it would be followed by a massive volley.

More on: [link to www.debka.com]

BUT....
Iraqi official: Rockets landed in Iraq, not Kuwait

Published: 08.26.11, 11:35 / Israel News

Three rockets fired in Iraq's southern oil port city of Basra landed inside Iraq and were not aimed at Kuwait or the Mubarak port, an Iraqi official said on Friday.


"The rockets targeted the (former) Bucca prison building, which is used by foreign companies," Ali al-Maliki, head of the Basra provincial council's security committee, told Reuters. (Reuters)

Source: [link to www.ynetnews.com]
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Luring Israel into war
[link to www.washingtontimes.com]
Iranian leaders seeking Arab war with Israel to protect Assad.
We have seen this action already starting up. It is going to require the Hezbollah to do something more as the Palestinianas are not getting it done.

Ya know, this is the weekend where Israel is required to initiate action plans on Iran unless they know what we do not that the nuclear plant will not be up and running for another month and/or the transfer of centerfuges into the undergound bunkers is of no worry to Israel. I do not have that detailed of information to suggest that Israel is willing to wait another month. Thus, we must assume then that Israel is prepping for attack by moving resourses, until we learn otherwise. As I said, it seems imperative that Israel issue a call for terror alerts across the nation to justify the mobilization of many resources.

Even if Israel has sufficient details to wait for the next new moon in September, Bibi must be chomping at the bit right now. With a hurricaine hitting the US, our eye, the media, and many others is off the ball this weekend on Israel and Iran. Further, Syria is simply too occupied to counter any Israeli assault on Iran. Thus, Israel knows this is an excellent window of opportunity that he may not be able to just forget.
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Shiiiiiiet
I'm conflicted as to whether I want this to happen
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it would be suicide and set off a Mideast tinderbox hellfire zone with oil/gas skyrocketing

Israel would be on the worlds shitlist except the Anglo-Americans
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Israel would be on the worlds shitlist except the Anglo-Americans
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Israel would be on a shitlist even when they handed out bars of gold to all their enemies. bash

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Israel would be on the worlds shitlist except the Anglo-Americans
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Israel would be on a shitlist even when they handed out bars of gold to all their enemies. bash
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good summation there
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With all the media attention now on the East coast of the USA and on Libya, tonight (Sat/Sun) or tomorrow night would be a "good" time to do the attacks.
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Obviously the Israeli's are not willing to strike, due to inner-discord. Just as Israel rpepared for attack, some defense officials leaked the following to counter such an attack. They announced that Iran has until 2015 before they will have a nuclear bomb. Still, last year Bibi acknowledged that Iran could have one already if they wished to within a week. Further, last week, again a defense official in Israel stated that Israel would need more than one strike on America and Israel would rather America do the job because they are more apt to be able to get the job done.
After the leaks, Israel was faced with a stand-down. They now have twenty some days to prepare again for attack. Of course, noone has faith Israel can do it alone and noone has faith that Obama will do anything to help or for the US to act. Instead, Iran keeps pumping up the terror on SIrael, and Israel is yet to act in self-defense.
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official in Israel stated that Israel would need more than one strike on America and Israel would rather America do the job because they are more apt to be able to get the job done.
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more disinfo
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official in Israel stated that Israel would need more than one strike on America and Israel would rather America do the job because they are more apt to be able to get the job done.
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more disinfo
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Kinda like the Iranian nuclear program where there is the civilian purpose program and the military nuke purpose of thee program, Israel has been pumping the disinfo or truth depending on what one thinks that Israel cannot take out the program or Israel is awaiting America to take out the program. Knowing the farce of relying on America is very much out of the question, one should be able to decipher that Israel truly is hell-bent upon attacking Iran and is pumping out the disinfo until such time as the attack occurs.
Israel is upping the terror alert in the south (Egypt), one would think Israel keeps pumping more troops in the south, but sources too state that the troops are not staying in the south, they are actually being moved to the north, quitely of course so shhhhhhhhhhh.
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. . . makes me think that tonight is still the best night of the window befroe it closes on an immediate attack as noone even considers that it could happen right now.hiding
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. . . makes me think that tonight is still the best night of the window befroe it closes on an immediate attack as noone even considers that it could happen right now.hiding
 Quoting: MM 1526375


disinfo has its limits as Im sure Iran is prepared 24/7

tonight is best because of new moon tonite ?

also agreed as Israel playing the boy who cried wolf too many times...everyone totally desensitized that talk is cheap and it will never happen, however you can only prepare for the element of surpise up to a certain point and then it becomes ...do it or not do it
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. . . makes me think that tonight is still the best night of the window befroe it closes on an immediate attack as noone even considers that it could happen right now.hiding
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disinfo has its limits as Im sure Iran is prepared 24/7

tonight is best because of new moon tonite ?

also agreed as Israel playing the boy who cried wolf too many times...everyone totally desensitized that talk is cheap and it will never happen, however you can only prepare for the element of surpise up to a certain point and then it becomes ...do it or not do it
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Yes, new moon tonight, gave them a couple days to send in teams via limited moonlight. I keep watching for something out of the ordinary but have not seen anything yet to say they will act except that they say they will not.
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. . . makes me think that tonight is still the best night of the window befroe it closes on an immediate attack as noone even considers that it could happen right now.hiding
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I think Bibi is unwilling or unable to do anything right now...maybe that's his own fault or maybe that is washington's fault giving him promises of a nuclear umbrella or whatnot. I think sadly one day we are gonna hear tel aviv get wiped off the face of the earth and then all hell breaks loose...we'll have about enough time to crawl into a ball in the corner and kiss our asses goodbye
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. . . makes me think that tonight is still the best night of the window befroe it closes on an immediate attack as noone even considers that it could happen right now.hiding
 Quoting: MM 1526375


I think Bibi is unwilling or unable to do anything right now...maybe that's his own fault or maybe that is washington's fault giving him promises of a nuclear umbrella or whatnot. I think sadly one day we are gonna hear tel aviv get wiped off the face of the earth and then all hell breaks loose...we'll have about enough time to crawl into a ball in the corner and kiss our asses goodbye
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I used to think Bibi was quite confident in his nation's ability to handle its enemies and control terror and he acted with that confidence and authority. This time around as Prime Minister though, he has been tiptoeing around Obama and all muslims in general. Sorry to say but the longer one waits to attack, the greater the reprisal is going to be from Iran and if there is no attack, Iran is sure to do so against the US and Israel when she is armed and ready.abomb
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This is interesting:
Netanyahu, Livni meet to discuss national security
08/29/2011 17:03
Prime Minister Binyamin Netanyahu met with opposition leader Tzipi Livni at his Jerusalem office on Monday afternoon and updated her about security matters. It was the first meeting between the two since April, even though the prime minister is legally required to brief the opposition head every month.

"Only a diplomatic process can prevent [the Palestinian statehood bid at the UN General Assembly in] September and also enable Israel to fight terror," Livni said. "The lack of a diplomatic process has harmed Israel and its ability to defend itself."
[link to www.jpost.com]
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. . . makes me think that tonight is still the best night of the window befroe it closes on an immediate attack as noone even considers that it could happen right now.hiding
 Quoting: MM 1526375


I think Bibi is unwilling or unable to do anything right now...maybe that's his own fault or maybe that is washington's fault giving him promises of a nuclear umbrella or whatnot. I think sadly one day we are gonna hear tel aviv get wiped off the face of the earth and then all hell breaks loose...we'll have about enough time to crawl into a ball in the corner and kiss our asses goodbye
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I used to think Bibi was quite confident in his nation's ability to handle its enemies and control terror and he acted with that confidence and authority. This time around as Prime Minister though, he has been tiptoeing around Obama and all muslims in general. Sorry to say but the longer one waits to attack, the greater the reprisal is going to be from Iran and if there is no attack, Iran is sure to do so against the US and Israel when she is armed and ready.abomb
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yep
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Syria is said to now be deploying forces in an array towards the Israeli border along the Golan as well as near the Lebanese border.

Much thought that Assad is on a mission to die a war against Israel verses NATO.
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Syria is said to now be deploying forces in an array towards the Israeli border along the Golan as well as near the Lebanese border.

Much thought that Assad is on a mission to die a war against Israel verses NATO.
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Military man is this in relation to maybe Hezbollah being called into action by Iran to divert attention from Assad? Also I am seeing a lot about a possible terror attack that is being planned to take place anytime now from the Sinai again.....do you know anything about that?

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