An electrifying 2011 ahead - here is your schedule according to TUN - UPDATE: New completion date introduced by Oldenkamp: 14 July, 2012

i still love this thread though

I had the exact same experience on the start of this day as the last,just more intense.Very interesting.Surely something is right on with this calender.I can really notice a change in people.love all,love in fact for me is way out of control,so I really have to breath easy.

Very interesting,when doing research of monatomic gold.Which I do take,So much amazing information when your research this.


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It helps ease you into becoming aware.Very very deep,one day I may be able to understand all that is written about this.I ordered to most potent form today.should have it by the so called weeks end,thursday or friday.
Blessings and love

most frequently visited thread on GLP for the past year or so

always coming back to check on dates

man, just around the corner

laughing like a child

thx ;)

Everything is coming together

A few more weeks------------------------

Thursday, 22 September 2011: START OF SIXTH NIGHT

4 weeks to the end of the final day

Terra just shook again, this time in India

Thread: *** BREAKING: 6.9 Magnitude Quake Rocks India and Nepal

Four weeks?wow.Blessings and love,.we will soon know.saw the other thread about the quake.Hold the love.Such a easy thing to do for four weeks.There are changes in people.No one can argue that point.In animals and every living thing.We had a quake here in North eastern USA.As well as floods and winds.Many have struggled.Law of man should fold there cards soon.

Solved.

Last Edited by Rey Rogers on 09/19/2011 06:17 PM

Johan Oldenkamp has recently moved out of the Calleman camp.

He claims by matching up the creation date of the Bavarian Illuminati on May first, 1776 and the 9/11 event the actual start date of the 9th wave(cycle) is November 24, 2011 and not March 8, 2011.

Those key events being exactly on the second day of their respective cycles.

This would mean a revised end date for the final wave of July 14, 2012 and not Oct 28, 2011.

Hm. Back to recalculating everything he and I have done I guess. I am not saying I am buying into his new theory, because it goes against a lot of backing for Calleman and others, but I owe it to myself and others to at least do the calculations again and see what he sees.

The first thing I noticed is that the rise of strength above might (law) is still going on, which should have ended on the last day of the 8th wave. This would explain that.

Basically it would mean a shift of 260 days into the future of all cycle dates. I need to x-reference all events and see where they are on the new timeline to verify if he is correct or not.

Lot of work.

Will report back asap.

PS:BOWMAN if you are bored could you feed the new start and end into your fractal time model and see where the past key events are? I´d like verification from multiple sources before I commit to these new dates. Thanks

Hey Rey Yeah, with those new dates in mind, the fractal time model would simply cease being a fractal. I'm not saying those dates don't have any merit at all, they could after all be a part of another fractal pattern orientated around some other theme. My intuition tells me there's more to the pattern per se than what Calleman has unearthed. I'm fairly confident that there are indeed other patterns to be discerned, like the I-Ching/TimewaveZero fractal model orientated around novelty/entropy or creativity/habit that McKenna discerned.




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Hi BOWMAN, thanks for your quick response. Please standby as I have an initial analysis coming.

I do think he may be on to something. Please check the 7th wave in my next post - I think you will find it interesting!

This post will be gibberish to most, I apologize.

New enddate according to Oldenkamp: Sat, 14th July 2012

Minus 13x18 days = Thursday Nov 24 2011 = new start of Final wave

Which gives this updated schedule for the final wave:

First day: Thursday, Nov 24 2011 +18days =
First night: Monday, 12 December 2011
Second day: Friday, 30 December 2011
Second night: Tuesday, 17 January 2012
Third day: Saturday, 4 February 2012
Third night: Wednesday, 22 February 2012
Fourth day: Sunday, 11 March 2012
Fourth night: Thursday, 29 March 2012
Fifth day: Monday, 16 April 2012
Fifth night: Friday, 4 May 2012
Sixth day: Tuesday, 22 May 2012
Sixth night: Saturday, 9 June 2012
Final day: Wednesday, 27 June 2012
...ending 18 days later on Sat, 14th July 2012.

Now the interesting part.

Recalculated 8th wave: 9th wave=234 days
length of periods in 8th wave= 360 days (x13) last day in 8th ends on nov 23, 2011

Let me quickly explain that the ENTIRE 9th wave fits into the 7th day of the 8th wave. So the 9th wave starts at the end of the 7th day in the 8th wave MINUS the total length of the 9th wave (which is 13 x 18 = 234 days) Meaning that the 7th day of the 8th wave is only 360 - 234 = 126 days long.

Using the start of the 9th wave (= Nov 24, 2011) we subtract 126 days to find the start of the 7th day in the 8th cycle ( = 21 July 2011)
Resulting in the 8th wave looking like this: (each period except the last day of the cycle being 360 days (=18x20)long)

7th day: 21 July 2011 minus 360 days=
6th night: 26 July 2010
6th day: 31 July 2009
5th night: 5 August 2008
5th day: 11 August 2007
4th night: 16 August 2006
4th day: 21 August 2005
3rd night: 26 August 2004
3rd day: 1 September 2003
2nd night: 6 September 2002
2nd day: 11 September 2001 (bingo)
1st night: 16 September 2000
1st day: 22 September 1999

So far, so good. In this model 9/11 did occur at exactly the start of the third tone in this model. (which is the second day)

Here is what he writes:

What we need are historic events that clearly show the energetic essence of the corresponding creational tone. Such a date is May 1, 1776. On this date a secret society to gain global power on Earth founded itself in Germany. This event corresponds to Tone 2 because this official institutionalisation opens the way to become more powerful. However, when we count back from December 21, 2012, the foundation date of these hidden violaters falls in the period of the first Tone. This is a second reason why December 21, 2012 is definitely not the right ending date of the Tzol’tun.

The insight that the Tzol’tun is a calendar revealing the Waves of Creation (of consciousness) comes from the Swedish scientist Dr. Carl Johan Calleman. He came up with October 28, 2011 as a better ending date for the Long Count Calendar. With this ending date the foundation date of the Illuminati, as the top of the global pyramid of power, does indeed match with the second Tone. Also does the Tzol’kin cycle end at this date. Please be aware that Dreamspell interpretation of the Tzol’kin differs from the original one.

For long, I thought the debate was which of both dates is the correct one. That is the reason why in my previous work, I also claim that the Tzol’tun counts back to the 28th of October of the current leap around the sun Helios. Recently, however, is discovered that there is another candidate for this ending date. The correct ending date of Long Count Calendar also clearly reveals the energetic meaning of 9/11.

The aim of 9/11 (and especially of the controlled demolition of WTC #1, #2 and #7) was to prevent the activation of the germ for Strength consciousness. I hope none of the visitors of this website still believe the official reading of the events on that shocking day. The 9/11 operation was an absolute masterpiece demonstrating the power of the Illuminati. On top of that, the timing could not have been more perfect. This event occurred at the very start of Tone 3 (of the eighth Wave of Creation). This means that the correct ending date (of the overall process of Creation) is: July 14, 2012

Source: [link to pateo.nl]

Please note Oldenkamp talks about "Tones" to identify the periods of each wave.

Tone 1 = day 1 (DO) Tone 2 = night 1 Tone 3 = Day 2 (RE) etc. see source above and on the gap harmonics check the oldenkamp vid on the first page of this thread.

Tone structure: (Oldenkamp)

1
Attracting
Day 1
Seed
Do

2
Opening
Night 1

3
Activating
Day 2
Germ
Re

4
Defining
Night 2

5
Enacting
Day 3
Spur
Mi

6
Arranging
Night 3
Fa

7
Synchronising
Day 4
Leave

8
Harmonising
Night 4
Sol

9
Mobilising
Day 5
Flower

10
Manifesting
Night 5
La

11
Releasing
Day 6
Receptacle

12
Completing
Night 6
Ti

13
Transcending
Day 7
Fruit
Do


Now, for sake of argument, I will go back all the way to May 1, 1776 to see WHERE that event falls in that cycle using the new dates.


First day of 8th wave: 22 September 1999
Last day of 7th wave: 21 September 1999
Duration of one tone in the 7th wave: 360 x 20 = 7200 days
Start of last day in 7th wave: 7200 days MINUS the entire 8th wave (which includes the 9th wave) = 360 x 13 = 4680 days
7200 - 4680 = 2520 days
Start of Final day in the 7th wave = 22 September 1999 - 2520 days = 28 October 1992

Wave Seven:

Final day: 28 October 1992 minus 7200 days =
Sixth night: 10 February 1973
Sixth day: 26 May 1953
Fifth night: 8 September 1933
Fifth day: 22 December 1913
Fourth night: 5 April 1894
Fourth day: 19 July 1874
Third night: 1 November 1854
Third day: 14 February 1835
Second night: 30 May 1815
Second day: 11 September 1795 (another september 11 here)
First night: 25 December 1775 (+128 days = May 1, 1776)
First day: 8 April 1756

So what do we find? I am no history major but these dates look familiar. Please respond if you see something.
The Bavarian Illuminati were indeed incorporated during the second tone as he states (=first night).

Any other "coincidences" I need to research. Please respond if you see dates you recognise.

I apologize for again for the brain dump - I will send a copy of this to Carl Calleman for input.

RR

Last Edited by Rey Rogers on 09/21/2011 03:48 PM

Significant dates close to start/end of tones in the 7th wave
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3 November 1992: Start of the Clinton Era
27 January 1973: End of vietnam war
2 June 1953: Coronation Elisabeth II
8 November 1933: New Deal reveiled by Roosevelt
23 December 1913: Creation of federal reserve (wow - fifth day)
24 July 1874: First incandescent lamp with an electric light bulb. (hmm)
November-December 1854: Battles, Riots and the Suez Canal company founded
20 February 1835: EQ destroys city in Chile AND 2 March 1835: Ferdinand becomes emperor of Austria
9 June 1815: Act of Congress of Vienna AND 18 June 1815: Battle of Waterloo (Start of Rothschild capital)
21 September 1795: Creation of the Orange Order
1775: Industrial revolution in Britain + American Revolution

There is probable more but for now I will let it rest and sink in.

I have just sent the last three posts to Johan Oldenkamp with request for comments. Especially the date 23 december 1913 is highly interesting, not sure if he was aware of that coincidence in the new model.

COMMENTS WELCOME

Wow, that's a pretty interesting model Rey. The theme seems to be deception with 9/11 and the creation of the Federal Reserve falling in rhythym. Just one point of clarification. The 'Long Count' essentially equates to Calleman's 'National Cycle' and not the entire fractal model itself. Just that one level shares a common start date with the Mayan Long Count calendar. I'm really starting to get the feeling that between the end of 2011 and the begining of 2013, that period in the middle is going to be where all the 'major' transitions occur. Just a thought. And it's really between those dates that all of the popular 'end dates' occur. It's an exercise in fluidity me thinks.




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Perhaps Oldenkamp has stumbled upon the theme and rythym of authority over people.


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I know what you mean. It feels like guesswork at this point while Calleman had some solid foundations for 28 Oct.

It will be interesting to see what he thinks.



Johan does have stunning insights, you should watch his explanation on the harmonic universe, it is mind blowing.

It is basically in the first hour of his "Hele Verhaal" presentation (the second vid in my first post).

I will have to look a little more into this Rey. I admit I haven't read or seen too much of Oldenkamp's work, but this new pattern theme is pretty interesting, taking into account the 1776 initialization of secret societies. Will check out that video too.

Thanks for the heads up man.




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Welcome... PS:When do you sleep?

If you snooze you lose? lol

I just close one eye at a time nowadays.


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Disclosures of 2011


1. NASA revealed room temperature Brown Dwarf 9 light years from our planet.

2. NASA and SETI revealed a binary star system with a planet (Kepler 16) that is in orbit with them, and if the planet had moons, may harbor life as temperatures would fluctuate and sometimes rise above freezing.

3. CERN reveals that some particles can travel faster than the speed of light.


NASA states that they will be revealing more from Kepler and Wise Telescope soon.

SETI just went back online, after being defunded for 4 months.
SETI is a large array of antenna to search for extraterresterial communication.

I am enjoying life.I wont be online much longer,soon,we shall know all,as awakened Immortal Beings.Bless all,you too ray.

My sentiments too. Enlightenment lies outside in the real world. Join a community or create one if you can.

Take care bro.

Yep, I think this is another debunk attempt that you got sucked into so you won't be ready for the real deal...? First it was 12/21/2012 so everyone would miss it, and now that the truth has been revealed, another debunk try at discrediting the real date. Sorry, man... The gut tells me it is upon us, and I have done my research to support my gut... Which ever is real, if we miss it, we live again to get it right... Love all and be all!

Hmm. Johan is too much out of the limelight to be considered a "debunker" I would say. At first I was puzzled at his change of heart this summer, and someone pointed his new insights to me. But after doing some research into his harmonics theory it was strange to see how the past events started to fit his model.

That, and the fact that we are clearly not in the final stages of the 9th wave (even with all the things going on) the signature of current events points to the final stages of the 8th wave, which would make much more sense.

Noone knows about this new model except for a few passers by in here and Johan´s following, who are mainly dutch.

Now IF Johan is right and Calleman is wrong you will see several things:

* Nothing of immense importance will happen near oct 28 2011
* A continued escalation of revolt and people rising above power after oct 28
* The pinnacle of this process near or before nov 24
* After nov 24 and all the way upto july 14 2012 the 9th and final wave - with a new global conciousness for mankind

Then after july 14: the new dawn.

Again, time will tell, but I would be surprised at this point that we will gain independence before 28th oct.

Rey Rogers

Just to be clear: in the Oldenkamp revised model the final day of the 9th wave is July 14, not July 24 2012.

I had that wrong in my header. (typo)

I don`t know, it seems to me that whenever a date or rhythm doesn`t fit the theory a new theory gets developed. And so it goes on and on...

I´d rather call it fine tuning, but you are right, it does look like so. Next question is how does it feel?

Does it resonate? All uncharted territory.

One thing is for sure and undeniable: our world is changing (evolving) and fast. These coming weeks (months?) will be crucial.

I personally have seen enough over the past two years that I am convinced we are indeed evolving into a higher conciousness and a new reality.

The model does make sense, give or take a few weeks. And most importantly it does give purpose to our unexplained existence.

RR