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Are you having panic sex of the 'be careful what you ask for you just might get it' type, aether?
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one day i discovered what i never imagined existed, which, amongst many emotions, arouses by sexuality unimaginably

since that, experiences such as the "deal", for example, heighten my sexuality

now , although i discovered what i never imagined, i was anticipating (asking) something that i now see was a weak version of what i discovered

you feel correct 1dunno1

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If the Electric Universe (E/U) would temporarily admit the Big Bang (B/B) might be possible, they might accept Electro/Magnetic (E/M) forces as acting, but they know the EU model proposes a universe that is infinite in time as well as space. They don't care what explanations are used to describe phenomena, as long as that explanation does not contradict the BB hypothesis. Whether its a Black Hole or an electric event they don't care as long as that explanation does not challenge the BB. We could get to that later after Electro/Magnetic forces were accepted as explanations. One step at a time
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If I can still trust, anyone can :) Everything flows naturally when you realize everyone's flawed, everyone's beautiful. I've learned to see the why, the motivations behind the actions and it makes forgiveness easy. We all act as if we're "victims" of dissonance and don't see it's an opportunity to transcend it with unconditional love.

Now I don't mean that in a fuzzy bunny sense. Love's not passive or weak, but a unpredicatble force. The apple of discord became love when Paris chose Aphrodite, love, over Athena, wisdom or Hera, comfort of peace. We do the worst things for love and the best out of love, then others rage to limit it. Polarization.

I've been looking at the allegory and mytheme behind most of the apple myths/superstitions/allegory/etc for the past few days... Intersting how the commonality in all erupts from a place of love. When I'm satisfied with my connections, I'll present it, too soon... more corelation needed, more diving beneath and between. But I do sense one thing...There's a rhyme and reason behind it all... we'll see soon :)
 Quoting: bea


whoa, right to the point

it feels true, now you have shown it, we`ll soon see

thanks for telling
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Your welcome. I resonate with concensus reality enveloping us in a test of the parameters of polarization. Who recognizes the trap and searches for a way out? Who doesn't realize the trap's there and thinks they're free? Who sees the trap and uses it to their advantage? Every possible scenario must play out, novelty, entropy. As those choices become more and more "old hat" because of the things we imagine to be true, they become true. Why? Because those scenarios haven't played out and they give entropy, novelty another dimension to build upon. We create the singularity with our collective desire for something new. We're liminal as a world because we're waiting for... something. We all feel it coming. We merely percieve it differently. :)
"Chaos exists as a pool of possibilities that order draws from and organizes according to creative desire. Some things get tossed down the memory hole only to reemerge later when the need arises. Neither chaos nor order holds a monopoly on creation and destruction, creative or destructive chaos exists as does creative and destructive order." - ME! Yeah, Bea :) snoocherdoodle@gmail.com
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Your welcome. I resonate with concensus reality enveloping us in a test of the parameters of polarization. Who recognizes the trap and searches for a way out? Who doesn't realize the trap's there and thinks they're free? Who sees the trap and uses it to their advantage? Every possible scenario must play out, novelty, entropy. As those choices become more and more "old hat" because of the things we imagine to be true, they become true. Why? Because those scenarios haven't played out and they give entropy, novelty another dimension to build upon. We create the singularity with our collective desire for something new. We're liminal as a world because we're waiting for... something. We all feel it coming. We merely percieve it differently. :)
 Quoting: bea


multidimensional explanation of multidimensional topic expressed in 2 dimensional wording visibly

your words form an emotionally visible structure of design

our perceptions of detail differ , natural, but our awareness of how, what and why is the same as we both see

thank you

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Your welcome. I resonate with concensus reality enveloping us in a test of the parameters of polarization. Who recognizes the trap and searches for a way out? Who doesn't realize the trap's there and thinks they're free? Who sees the trap and uses it to their advantage? Every possible scenario must play out, novelty, entropy. As those choices become more and more "old hat" because of the things we imagine to be true, they become true. Why? Because those scenarios haven't played out and they give entropy, novelty another dimension to build upon. We create the singularity with our collective desire for something new. We're liminal as a world because we're waiting for... something. We all feel it coming. We merely percieve it differently. :)
 Quoting: bea


multidimensional explanation of multidimensional topic expressed in 2 dimensional wording visibly

your words form an emotionally visible structure of design

our perceptions of detail differ , natural, but our awareness of how, what and why is the same as we both see

thank you
 Quoting: aether


Exactly, we're all limited by our inability to articulate our awareness in a way that others can grasp. We create analogy upon analogy hoping one seed will take root. I feel the next level consists of a shared surrealistic layer or dimension where we show and aren't limited to the telling. Thought projection, interactive imagination. Incidenatlly, I honestly don't feel transhumanism's the way to go. I see us capable of this with our own energy.
"Chaos exists as a pool of possibilities that order draws from and organizes according to creative desire. Some things get tossed down the memory hole only to reemerge later when the need arises. Neither chaos nor order holds a monopoly on creation and destruction, creative or destructive chaos exists as does creative and destructive order." - ME! Yeah, Bea :) snoocherdoodle@gmail.com
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Your welcome. I resonate with concensus reality enveloping us in a test of the parameters of polarization. Who recognizes the trap and searches for a way out? Who doesn't realize the trap's there and thinks they're free? Who sees the trap and uses it to their advantage? Every possible scenario must play out, novelty, entropy. As those choices become more and more "old hat" because of the things we imagine to be true, they become true. Why? Because those scenarios haven't played out and they give entropy, novelty another dimension to build upon. We create the singularity with our collective desire for something new. We're liminal as a world because we're waiting for... something. We all feel it coming. We merely percieve it differently. :)
 Quoting: bea


multidimensional explanation of multidimensional topic expressed in 2 dimensional wording visibly

your words form an emotionally visible structure of design

our perceptions of detail differ , natural, but our awareness of how, what and why is the same as we both see

thank you
 Quoting: aether


Exactly, we're all limited by our inability to articulate our awareness in a way that others can grasp. We create analogy upon analogy hoping one seed will take root. I feel the next level consists of a shared surrealistic layer or dimension where we show and aren't limited to the telling. Thought projection, interactive imagination. Incidenatlly, I honestly don't feel transhumanism's the way to go. I see us capable of this with our own energy.
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transhumanism i needed to look that up
so you know
i agree , our own capabilities provide our desires

your doing what your aware is arising within us fluently, as you know

it is as beautiful as it is informative and naturally prompts me to listen whist physically experiencing altering shape of consciousness prompted by the dimensionally (layers) structured information within your words
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gotta play again rockon

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Hello!

aether,

a few pages back you posted some music by "The Weeknd"rockon
just wondering if you can explain what you view is the correlation between those two songs and this thread/topic. Thanks!peaceafro
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Hello!

aether,

a few pages back you posted some music by "The Weeknd"rockon
just wondering if you can explain what you view is the correlation between those two songs and this thread/topic. Thanks!peaceafro
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hey ac, "high for this" and "trust issues"
the underlying topic of this thread is reflected in my conversation with aruna :
scratching

I give up as to what that means exactly?
 Quoting: ArunaLuna


Temperance is the first virtue that perfects man’s ability to act well with one’s self from within one’s self.

lol

the smallest number that exist is 2

if that is true
why imagine forgetting the other 1

it`s never you and you it`s always you and all else
that quote ignores all else, it acts as if "man" is isolated from "all else"
man never was or is
it`s never "mastery" of oneself, it is always synchrony with all else

that is my point as i see all things, including me
 Quoting: aether

Thread: The virtue of TEMPERANCE

the reason i posted those songs reflects this:

Are you having panic sex of the 'be careful what you ask for you just might get it' type, aether?
Quoting: amm


one day i discovered what i never imagined existed, which, amongst many emotions, arouses by sexuality unimaginably

since that, experiences such as the "deal", for example, heighten my sexuality

now , although i discovered what i never imagined, i was anticipating (asking) something that i now see was a weak version of what i discovered

you feel correct
 Quoting: aether


so the first song reflected how i felt with news of "the deal", a song of weekend that expresses sexuality to me , whatever the lyrics, the second song is me in the same mood , so i still post weekend music (motive) whist desiring to convey to bea on another topic the gulf i experience with our "masters of the universe" "tptb"

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following the passing of our golden age humanity no longer possessed awareness to synchronize emotionally with their environment

our environments non material structure had changed prohibiting emotional response/awareness as we experienced before

what remained was humanities natural ability to emotionally interact with each other prompting sensations of reality not reflected within their environment

with this in mind the history of humanity can be seen blossoming within two simultaneous expressions

mechanically/manually in construction of technology to provide alternative lifestyle in the absence of emotional syncronisity (awareness) with our environment including ultimately technology to replace our natural instant communication/feedback awareness (global communication era)

our remaining natural ability to effect the emotional experiences of others without observed/experienced consequences from our environment blossomed into ever more imaginative beliefs/faiths to stimulate our emotions and increasingly extreme physical interaction with each other to promote greater emotional feedback effects (war/love/hate/prayer/sex etc.etc,)

all of which is natural when our ability to emotionally interact with our environment and it`s natural capacity to sustain our emotional interaction whilst it provides physical and emotional feedback to us is dormant within us

rockon
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bea, what does this convey to you ?
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LOL instant feedback

Gradualism Versus Catastrophism Part One
25th Oct 2011

Did the terrain we see around us take millions of years to form? Some recent experiments suggest otherwise.

As mentioned in past articles, Electric Universe proponents think that something is wrong with the “long, slow” view of geology. Fossils are dated based on the rock layers in which they are found, so a uniformitarian view of geology influences the understanding of how life began and evolved on Earth. If the rock ages are wrong, fossil ages are wrong.

It is commonly believed that fossils are created when an animal or plant dies and is subsequently entombed in mud or silt before decay and dissolution. After millions of years, the sediments in which it is buried harden because of pressure from the overlying accumulation of other later deposits.

Tectonic forces then break or bend the ocean bottom (or lakebed), causing it to rise above the waterline and dry out, hardening the sediments into stone. Those layers of stone around the world are used to determine when the fossils were alive, since it is assumed that the top layers are younger than the bottom layers. The layers of hardened sediments are called “the geologic column.”

Prevailing theories state that it took millions, if not billions, of years to arrange the scenery on our planet. Mountains rise in response to mechanisms that are so slow as to be undetectable: the Himalayas, the Alps, and the Rocky Mountains retain the same shapes that ancient nomadic tribes saw........................................cont]
 Quoting: observation

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when our universe officially changes nature to electric the history of humankind on this planet changes with it rockon

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Exactly, we're all limited by our inability to articulate our awareness in a way that others can grasp. We create analogy upon analogy hoping one seed will take root. I feel the next level consists of a shared surrealistic layer or dimension where we show and aren't limited to the telling. Thought projection, interactive imagination. Incidenatlly, I honestly don't feel transhumanism's the way to go. I see us capable of this with our own energy.
 Quoting: bea


that is true bea, we utilize our natural creatively formative attributes to make sense of the diverse opinion we form into of what we are and what we are within

our universe to exist, by default, cannot experience this diversity of what it is:

your reality is as valid as my reality is not universally true, it cannot be so

thus there exists an explanation that fits all peoples intuitive senses of what they are and why they are it within that which forms them as they are
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If the Electric Universe (E/U) would temporarily admit the Big Bang (B/B) might be possible, they might accept Electro/Magnetic (E/M) forces as acting, but they know the EU model proposes a universe that is infinite in time as well as space. They don't care what explanations are used to describe phenomena, as long as that explanation does not contradict the BB hypothesis. Whether its a Black Hole or an electric event they don't care as long as that explanation does not challenge the BB. We could get to that later after Electro/Magnetiec forces were accepted as explanations. One step at a time
 Quoting: DEAL


“ ...At the briefest instant following creation all the matter of the universe was concentrated in a very small place, no larger than a grain of mustard. The matter at this time was very thin, so intangible, that it did not have real substance. It did have, however, a potential to gain substance and form and to become tangible matter. From the initial concentration of this intangible substance in its minute location, the substance expanded, expanding the universe as it did so. As the expansion progressed, a change in the substance occurred. This initially thin noncorporeal substance took on the tangible aspects of matter as we know it. From this initial act of creation, from this etherieally thin pseudosubstance, everything that has existed, or will ever exist, was, is, and will be formed
 Quoting: Rabbi Moses ben Naḥman Girondi, Bonastruc ça Porta 1194 -1270

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According to Yitzhak of Acco, the universe would be 42,000 x 365,250 earth-years old. That calculation comes out to 15.3 billion years, very close to current estimates for the Big Bang.
 Quoting: Yitzchak of Akko 1250 - 1340

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Note: How was it possible for ancient and medieval Kabbalah rabbis to inscribe conclusions of what are apparently the premises of modern cosmology in their holy book (long before Copernicus formulated his heliocentricity hypothesis) and for those premises to hold the exact same conclusions agreed to by modern cosmologists? The astounding coincidence of basically identical cosmology premises being formulated by ancient and medieval Kabbalah rabbis and then later formulated by modern physicists (as the results of modern scientific research) is indeed puzzling.
 Quoting: Question

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why did einstein and others take humankind down a kabbalistic path

i wonder
 Quoting: aether 1187276


the politics of god rockon

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not for the first time as a principle but, within our global communication era, for the first time as a collective, all humankind is aware that everyone's emotional expression of lifestyle awaits the decisions of a group of anonymous humans regarding the nature (politics) of god

i imagine our collective intuition is experiencing the tensions generated by this debate whilst experiencing the gathering material consequences that the necessity of the debate generates

rockon

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i know the kabbalah archetype drove the thinking of those that drove einstein

a powerful archetype with influence, within other archetypes, whom collectively manifest as foundations of our religious and academic institutions in the west
 Quoting: aether


our archetypes need compassion within this awakening awareness
era

all are naturally fearful, perplexed and torn between what they know and that which is becoming their knowing

do they "save" us from that which is manifesting or do they let us go by sacrifice of themselves

maybe a third way will become imagined, beneficial to both humankind and our archetypes
 Quoting: aether 1187276


we have not changed

it is our environment that altered

we know this

our human formed archetypes, to survive, must know this also

impossible to consider in any time before now

this time of archetypes, unnatural to us but natural to all else, energizing and synchronizing as never experienced by humankind within this environment
 Quoting: aether


until the local solar system event, humankind forever were within an environment that regulated the effects of the universally dominant archetypes

they were present but "subservient" to the influence of our original dominant source of all effects

as we and our source of effects spiralled through our universe within this galaxy, birkland currents and dense plasma clouds were of little consequence, being absorbed and dissipated by our effects source

following the "something out of nothing" "let there be light" event, our now resident sun is effected by our spiral in and out of birkland currents that radiate from our galaxies core

our sun and we are effected by the dense plasma cloud we have entered

the universal archetypes, that were known but experienced as subordinate, are now energised, via the plasma cloud and are on the cusp of being further energised, as we enter the next sun cycle within a birkland current

they have various names for our past, ningishzidda, metatron and aether are a few of their names

since the "let there be light" event, there has not been a combination of plasma cloud and birkland current effects to energising these archetypes, such as the period we have entered

the effects of the plasma cloud have gradually increased the nature of our environment as such that it energises, to a greater degree, our universal archetypes, as and when our sun rhythmically travels in and out of the birkland currents
 Quoting: aether 1187276


it never crossed my mind until mara arose what effects our human archetypes experience with our natural ones (charge, fields, spin etc.etc) once they embrace our newly blossomed awareness
they frolic together literally
it seems whist our human archetypes maintained our emotionally imagined beliefs, at all costs, continuous devouring by our natural archetypes maintained by default

upon loosening as "law" those emotive beliefs that created them, our natural archetypes love them

awwwwwwww

nuts huh

no human formed archetype could imagine this before their god, mara did

symbol

hopeful rockon

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i know the kabbalah archetype drove the thinking of those that drove einstein

a powerful archetype with influence, within other archetypes, whom collectively manifest as foundations of our religious and academic institutions in the west
 Quoting: Quote


fuck!!!!!!
i never noticed that because i never noticed the archetype mara until it prompted me to notice within it`s formation

you just prompted me to remember:

oh you just reminded me amm

Re: Genesis -1:1

whatever wrote that line
wanted to impose time
by putting a beginning
making eternity ending
the reason is simple
place power in invisble
then wield power by saying
authority from a non existing
thus impossible to deny
you are the main guy
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Thread: Genesis -1:1 (Page 3)

rockon
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Thread: Marko Rodin - Smart Lazer Technology (Page 97)

the reason the first line of genesis is wrong, thus all that follows by default wrong is because the archetype (god) utilized to confirm our and our universes reality contains the wrong information within it

that god archetype utilized is the human emotionally formed and sustained archetype of their belief at that place (time)formed from ancestral awareness just as wrong

put simple, a fantasy is attributed as the cause of reality

jesus knew but if you notice, 80% of what he told is removed AND he told us the place (time) of his physically talking to us was NOT the place (time) for us to become aware of what we are to become aware of

to put that simple, he remote viewed here , this place (time) for our awareness to blossom
 Quoting: aether

Thread: Do you choose the world of Man or the Kingdom of God Here on earth?

it`s been mara all along

lol

fuck,fuck and treble fuck alien03

why am i always the last to see 1rof1

even when i am fucking aware of it

nuts

i am

nuts

fucked

oh well

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but then
for all to occur naturally
nothing can or should be forced
thus it must occur the way it does occur

just because you know
never means it will grow
it must desire to become
then all will form as one
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 Quoting: ArunaLuna


morning , those lyrics ring a bell tounge
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not for the first time as a principle but, within our global communication era, for the first time as a collective, all humankind is aware that everyone's emotional expression of lifestyle awaits the decisions of a group of anonymous humans regarding the nature (politics) of god

i imagine our collective intuition is experiencing the tensions generated by this debate whilst experiencing the gathering material consequences that the necessity of the debate generates

rockon


 Quoting: aether


I keep going back to reread the pages here in the morning state. Trying to find summation. Probably that impatience thing. What a fitful time trying to go sleep. Until, interestingly, I asked aloud for something to “hold me”. I seldom ask aloud nor just for myself. Normally something to hold us. Anyway neither hear no there, just ‘being’ vulnerable. Seems appropriate. Preface to ‘Earth Witness’:

The "earth witness" Buddha is one of the most common iconic images of Buddhism. It depicts the Buddha sitting in meditation with his left hand, palm upright, in his lap, and his right hand touching the earth. This represents the moment of the Buddha's enlightenment.

Just before the historical Buddha, Siddhartha Gautama, realized enlightenment, it is said the demon Mara attacked him with armies of monsters to frighten Siddhartha from his seat under the bodhi tree....

Of course, some stories about the Buddha mention gods and heavenly beings. Yet the Buddha did not ask for help from heavenly beings. He asked the earth. Religious historian Karen Armstrong wrote in her book, Buddha (Penguin Putnam, 2001, p. 92), about the earth witness mudra:

"It not only symbolizes Gotama's rejection of Mara's sterile machismo, but makes a profound point that a Buddha does indeed belong to the world. The Dhamma is exacting, but it is not against nature. . . . The man or woman who seeks enlightenment is in tune with the fundamental structure of the universe."...

Buddhism teaches that nothing exists independently. Instead, all phenomena and all beings are caused to exist by other phenomena and beings. The existence of all things is interdependent. Our existence as human beings depends on earth, air, water, and other forms of life. Just as our existence depends on and is conditioned by those things, they also are conditioned by our existence.

The way we think of ourselves as being separate from earth and air and nature is part of our essential ignorance, according to Buddhist teaching. The many different things -- rocks, flowers, babies, and also asphalt and car exhaust -- are expressions of us, and we are expressions of them. In a sense, when the earth confirmed the Buddha's enlightenment, the earth was confirming itself, and the Buddha was confirming himself.
 Quoting: Earth Witness ~ Meaning of the Earth Witness Mudra


This person seems to sum up in simplicity the meaning system. Even ‘car exhaust’. Even our own ‘genetic motification’ of the seed of our remembrance. Maybe we get to avoid weep and gnashing of teeth by owning it. Maybe?

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The term derives from the Ancient Greek words, meta, meaning beyond or after, and noia, meaning perception or understanding or mind.
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Aether, what is the guy's name that is the modern day "Tesla"?
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So in this sense of mara....it is integration with what ‘brought us into the world and can take us out.” Sense we know in the Buddhist belief system Mara would also be part of self. We own we created ‘the demon’. Of course it would be easier to occupy the demon of Wall Street we created to save us once again. Though we seek to occupy the structural source of our alienation. As I mentioned before, when renewable energy credits...the selling of earth as pieces of paper...came onto the scene, we had reached the the tip of the iceberg of alienation of descent.Though interestingly, I do not hear the ‘occupiers” confronting this which the ‘occupied’ must be as happy as genetically modified clams about. Though I have not been paying much attention to the extinction burst that is going on there.
The term derives from the Ancient Greek words, meta, meaning beyond or after, and noia, meaning perception or understanding or mind.
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not for the first time as a principle but, within our global communication era, for the first time as a collective, all humankind is aware that everyone's emotional expression of lifestyle awaits the decisions of a group of anonymous humans regarding the nature (politics) of god

i imagine our collective intuition is experiencing the tensions generated by this debate whilst experiencing the gathering material consequences that the necessity of the debate generates

rockon


 Quoting: aether


I keep going back to reread the pages here in the morning state. Trying to find summation. Probably that impatience thing. What a fitful time trying to go sleep. Until, interestingly, I asked aloud for something to “hold me”. I seldom ask aloud nor just for myself. Normally something to hold us. Anyway neither hear no there, just ‘being’ vulnerable. Seems appropriate. Preface to ‘Earth Witness’:

The "earth witness" Buddha is one of the most common iconic images of Buddhism. It depicts the Buddha sitting in meditation with his left hand, palm upright, in his lap, and his right hand touching the earth. This represents the moment of the Buddha's enlightenment.

Just before the historical Buddha, Siddhartha Gautama, realized enlightenment, it is said the demon Mara attacked him with armies of monsters to frighten Siddhartha from his seat under the bodhi tree....

Of course, some stories about the Buddha mention gods and heavenly beings. Yet the Buddha did not ask for help from heavenly beings. He asked the earth. Religious historian Karen Armstrong wrote in her book, Buddha (Penguin Putnam, 2001, p. 92), about the earth witness mudra:

"It not only symbolizes Gotama's rejection of Mara's sterile machismo, but makes a profound point that a Buddha does indeed belong to the world. The Dhamma is exacting, but it is not against nature. . . . The man or woman who seeks enlightenment is in tune with the fundamental structure of the universe."...

Buddhism teaches that nothing exists independently. Instead, all phenomena and all beings are caused to exist by other phenomena and beings. The existence of all things is interdependent. Our existence as human beings depends on earth, air, water, and other forms of life. Just as our existence depends on and is conditioned by those things, they also are conditioned by our existence.

The way we think of ourselves as being separate from earth and air and nature is part of our essential ignorance, according to Buddhist teaching. The many different things -- rocks, flowers, babies, and also asphalt and car exhaust -- are expressions of us, and we are expressions of them. In a sense, when the earth confirmed the Buddha's enlightenment, the earth was confirming itself, and the Buddha was confirming himself.
 Quoting: Earth Witness ~ Meaning of the Earth Witness Mudra


This person seems to sum up in simplicity the meaning system. Even ‘car exhaust’. Even our own ‘genetic motification’ of the seed of our remembrance. Maybe we get to avoid weep and gnashing of teeth by owning it. Maybe?
 Quoting: A Muse Me


Everything now as expressed as our collective birthing pains...thumbs

"In the words of Terence McKenna "find the others, find the others, then you will know what to do." All the answers and all the questions are there. Do not make groups, do not make symbols, do not create new names for yourselves. Naming yourselves or that which you choose to change will cause limitation. The I Ching says "never confront evil directly, never name it directly, because it finds weapons and words to defend its self." You are not an army so the strategy must be stealth.

What is meant by stealth? Stealth as in subversiveness, "all truth which springs from the individual is subversive." That which is opposed is almost impossible to escape. It is not inescapable, but not escapable by physically running away from it into the woods or by mentally rejecting and projecting the histeroma onto something or someone other. Chances are that you are already immersed in it, identify with it, or perpetuate it by participation(whether unwilling or not); this is not bad, for the best way to create, transform, or transmute something is to do that from within. Just like a flower does not get rid of a seed by replacing it with its self, but does so by coming out of it.

Technology that has been designed to exploit us, for tracking us, to pick our pockets, and to sell/addict us [to] junk we do not want or need are the tools that are to be used for subversive art. A dollar bill and a tax form become a canvas; a job becomes a place for social networking; a dirt lot or your front lawn becomes a garden.

The only way out is froward it's impossible to go back,  its a froward escape; like a child being born it can not go back to the womb. Collective human civilization is being born we can not go back to the African plains/cradle of man. Global warming, the nuclear arms race, deforestation, and the pollution of rivers and the human body are the birthing pains. Our ancestors persevered as far as they did so that we could be wherever we are now; our primitive ancestors did not have paved roads, did not have GPS, flue vaccines, or thermal polyester shirts. They did not have what we now have and they made it, they didn't give up. It is our responsibility today as it was their responsibility 10,000 years ago.

Philosophy is a noncompetative team sport. Sometimes it is imperative that a generation totally comes together to do what it is needed. It is never clear just what needs to be done or how it is going to be accomplished. The 60`s was the last massive attempt at an alchemical transmutation through artistic expression; what will it be this time, only we can choose. Let the mass grid of foreclosed and abandoned homes become headquarters and gathering places to practice this art; turn their unused land into gardens. Pump out massive amounts of subversive art!

Find the others, find the others and then you will know what to do."


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the politics of god rockon
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Yes, when ’touching earth' as the source of here and now seems political economy as a manifestation of our alienation from god can not be avoided.
The term derives from the Ancient Greek words, meta, meaning beyond or after, and noia, meaning perception or understanding or mind.
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Yes, Bowman, still one of my favorite threads since I came back here. I think of it often. It was that moment of quiet communion we shared between ‘Scared Nature and the Luminous Mystery of Other."
The term derives from the Ancient Greek words, meta, meaning beyond or after, and noia, meaning perception or understanding or mind.
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[link to www.metahistory.org]

Somewhere on that site is an audio clip that I posted on Aruna Luna’s Human Energy thread a while ago. I don’t have time to find it at the moment. It was Lash furthering his thoughts on Gaia. I will try to find it in her thread but it seems it was a few months ago now when I posted it. I want to go back and listen to it again.
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So in this sense of mara....it is integration with what ‘brought us into the world and can take us out.” Sense we know in the Buddhist belief system Mara would also be part of self. We own we created ‘the demon’. Of course it would be easier to occupy the demon of Wall Street we created to save us once again. Though we seek to occupy the structural source of our alienation. As I mentioned before, when renewable energy credits...the selling of earth as pieces of paper...came onto the scene, we had reached the the tip of the iceberg of alienation of descent.Though interestingly, I do not hear the ‘occupiers” confronting this which the ‘occupied’ must be as happy as genetically modified clams about. Though I have not been paying much attention to the extinction burst that is going on there.
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it started here amm

you know i am beginning to get the feeling humanity requires something emotionally shocking as the consequence of this malevolent illusion
 Quoting: aether


As far as human emotions go, aether, vulnerability is much more difficult for us than grief.
 Quoting: observation


mara (fear) agrees
 Quoting: aether


prompting me to find out (remote)

how you feeling about la palma iwb76
 Quoting: aether


hi aetherhf


mhh, have much to read about it first...

but for me it seems quakes are nearby to la palma and i dont want to be a fearmonger (i know this landslide theory; and ofc i dont wanna play this down)

maybe Q or Gabe have some answers
 Quoting: IwantToBelieve76


thanks, i`m hovering around an emotional effect within our northern hemisphere for which there are infinite ways to occur
and it`s motive is vulnerability as opposed to grief

so you know
rockon
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Thread: SOLAR WATCH * 312 M & 25 X FLARES starting 3-7-2011 (Updated Daily) (Page 413)

what remotes up is exactly what you have just posted

over riding the natural material event is the emotional interior event and occupy was the symbol that arose to describe the direction the emotive flow is taking

it was a larger volume of emotion than occupy, occupy is symbolic of it`s effect

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