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And that would make sense if they 'thought' in a different way than we do now. If that was the case, things would be expressed differently, and the more 'abstract' the thoughts, the more strange they would appear to us...
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jaw dropping film: UFO hovers over Temple Mount, Jerusalem-what does it mean?
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Judaism regards the Temple Mount as the place where God chose the Divine Presence to rest (Isa 8:18); it was from here the world expanded into its present form and where God gathered the dust used to create the first man, Adam.

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what awareness puts earth at the physical center of our universe?
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no awareness does from this day y_lovin
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"Four mutually corroborat­ing videos? Let's not be obtuse. This is an interestin­g phenomenon­.

UFO's often appear at times of great human anxiety. The physical properties and performanc­e characteri­stics of these, and indeed all genuine UFO's, are well explained by plasma physics.

The hard thing to grok is that some UFO's respond to human consciousn­ess - they are likely sentient plasmoids that have been here all along. Our government and others have known about them for decades. I have seen them up close as early as the mid-60's. If they have a function or purpose, it is similar to that of a thermostat - to regulate human beliefs"
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And that would make sense if they 'thought' in a different way than we do now. If that was the case, things would be expressed differently, and the more 'abstract' the thoughts, the more strange they would appear to us...
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maybe sickscent

the thoughts we want are the thoughts that manifest our golden age lifestyle


i imagine
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And that would make sense if they 'thought' in a different way than we do now. If that was the case, things would be expressed differently, and the more 'abstract' the thoughts, the more strange they would appear to us...
 Quoting: SickScent


maybe sickscent

the thoughts we want are the thoughts that manifest our golden age lifestyle


i imagine
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Let me wander a bit. I'm beginning to piece a bit of a puzzle together. These are just conjectures, hypothesis, I propose nothing but a ponderance.

So the pyramids are on lay lines, perhaps the cause of them, constructed with a lost knowledge of material manipulation, to blueprints beyond human comprehension, and of a scale prohibitive of human tampering. The pyramids obviously share a design greater than the parts - the sites individually and combined. I think they may be interlinked inter-dimensionally and part of the backbone of the multiple reality engine we coexist in.

Perhaps limits of such a system were known in advance, and once population exceeded a threshold (or consciousness complexity) that system faces failure. Could mayans predict such a threshold? Perhaps.

Perhaps that system was what kept global systems in balance, and parallel realities in check. Perhaps that system was what fueled the 'golden time' for the external multiverse. The 'golden time' for the ascends gone before. The view from earth is awesome especially when you're stealing the cable line. Wouldn't we want to do the same thing?

So when these systems face their limits, could it be there are those who rise to the call of their generation and do something beyond mortal comprehension? Could it be the ascents from the prior generations are motivated to assist creating the greatest diversity for the soon to be freed generation of mankind? Would they change the machinery beyond the limits of their own humanity? What does that look like for us?

Vortex mathematics lay a foundation for, as you've said aether, a fabric 'how'. I think it may be the ascends are revealing to us, slowly, why - through this very medium.

Would it not make sense, for ascends to introduce new systems and technologies congruent with major events in our timeline - perhaps one opportune moment would have been when the analog TV transmitters were shut down - repurpose that spectra of whitespace outside human perception with upgraded parallel reality convergence. How would we sense the difference?

Could events such as egypt distract from fabric changes far distant? It seems to me like there is one thing being shown, and a different thing happening... does that even make sense?
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Seems like this should go here...for interests sake....

[link to www.twm.co.nz]



Also...this website has some relevant information...in my opinion...thought I would add it for others with interest in this topic hf

[link to sites.google.com]
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I haven't seen that for a while and im glad you posted it cause it got me thinking about some thing that i knew i should be adding together....

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but did any of them know why vortical motion forms all things until the past 60 years or so?

did they know magnetic field existence by any other name in a manner that was coherent with their lifestyles after our golden age?

i wonder
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And if they did, what would/did they attribute that force to
hmm
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I can smell the conscience condensing...

Thanks for being born Sicksent..
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And that would make sense if they 'thought' in a different way than we do now. If that was the case, things would be expressed differently, and the more 'abstract' the thoughts, the more strange they would appear to us...
 Quoting: SickScent


maybe sickscent

the thoughts we want are the thoughts that manifest our golden age lifestyle


i imagine
 Quoting: aether


Let me wander a bit. I'm beginning to piece a bit of a puzzle together. These are just conjectures, hypothesis, I propose nothing but a ponderance.

So the pyramids are on lay lines, perhaps the cause of them, constructed with a lost knowledge of material manipulation, to blueprints beyond human comprehension, and of a scale prohibitive of human tampering. The pyramids obviously share a design greater than the parts - the sites individually and combined. I think they may be interlinked inter-dimensionally and part of the backbone of the multiple reality engine we coexist in.

Perhaps limits of such a system were known in advance, and once population exceeded a threshold (or consciousness complexity) that system faces failure. Could mayans predict such a threshold? Perhaps.

Perhaps that system was what kept global systems in balance, and parallel realities in check. Perhaps that system was what fueled the 'golden time' for the external multiverse. The 'golden time' for the ascends gone before. The view from earth is awesome especially when you're stealing the cable line. Wouldn't we want to do the same thing?

So when these systems face their limits, could it be there are those who rise to the call of their generation and do something beyond mortal comprehension? Could it be the ascents from the prior generations are motivated to assist creating the greatest diversity for the soon to be freed generation of mankind? Would they change the machinery beyond the limits of their own humanity? What does that look like for us?

Vortex mathematics lay a foundation for, as you've said aether, a fabric 'how'. I think it may be the ascends are revealing to us, slowly, why - through this very medium.

Would it not make sense, for ascends to introduce new systems and technologies congruent with major events in our timeline - perhaps one opportune moment would have been when the analog TV transmitters were shut down - repurpose that spectra of whitespace outside human perception with upgraded parallel reality convergence. How would we sense the difference?

Could events such as egypt distract from fabric changes far distant? It seems to me like there is one thing being shown, and a different thing happening... does that even make sense?
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i like it 8

until our technology went in the air and looked down, only some peoples intuitional awareness "saw" a global network

our environment is intelligent, awareness of it`s intelligence may be integral to it`s function as in, it all only does what we are aware it can do

as our awareness increases it`s functionality increases

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this get`s me as well
remote look at carl sagan on smilin' irish eyes thread....
Thread: ***Are we just now starting to remember? Dr Velikovsky and Cultural Amnesia*** (Page 3)

...gave me this

perhaps it is not a surprise that carl sagan died relatively young as he appears in two minds, on the one hand protecting the newly discovered secrets of the nature of our universe and on the other hand showing them in contact

watch the electrically driven twin rotating mechanical arms of the machine form the electromagnetic field around jodie`s capsule until it matches the aether field whereupon jodie and her capsule "drop" into the field (vanish) thereafter all "control" of the capsule is emotional telepathy (communicative intuition) symbolised by the chair being "not allowed and would kill you if attempted".

then she meets her dad who is not her dad showing the newly understood forming (born) and reforming (dying) of the non material dimension (aether) forming the personality/soul within the human structure and maintaining or nor memory/personality upon reformation personal choice

the reference to this awareness and it`s ability to unlock to travel of the universe instantly having always being here is in reference to all no non human contact to date stating nothing they know claims to have formed this awareness, it has always been here (eternal)
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vortical twin rotating physics being displayed in the movie with a story line of ancient technology but what i didn`t know until last week is:

In a kind of postscript, Ellie, acting upon a suggestion by the senders of the message, works on a program which computes the digits of pi to record lengths and in different bases.

Very, very far from the decimal point (1020) and in base 11, it finds that a special pattern does exist when the numbers stop varying randomly and start producing 1s and 0s in a very long string. The string's length is the product of 11 prime numbers. The 1s and 0s when organized as a square of specific dimensions form a rasterized circle.

The extraterrestrials suggest that this is an artist's signature, woven into the very fabric of space-time. It is another message, one from the universe's creator. Yet the extraterrestrials are just as ignorant to its meaning as Ellie, as it could be still some sort of a statistical anomaly.

They also make reference to older artifacts built from space time itself (namely the wormhole transit system) abandoned by a prior civilization. A line in the book suggests that the image is a foretaste of deeper marvels hidden even further within pi. This new pursuit becomes analogous to SETI; it is another search for meaningful signals in apparent noise. This idea, among other plot points, was omitted from the film version.


pi is

(sometimes written pi) is a mathematical constant whose value is the ratio of any circle's circumference to its diameter in the Euclidean plane; this is the same value as the ratio of a circle's area to the square of its radius

so the message carl sagan gave us is the key is within the circle (flat 2d spiral) and no extraterrestrials have more awareness than that

take out awareness to the vortical and our awareness is at least to the same degree as all others within our universe

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great introduction to seti aruna .......

The mission of the SETI Institute is to explore, understand and explain the origin, nature and prevalence of life in the universe.
[link to www.seti.org]

...which sounds wonderful to me BUT, there is always a BUT in the politics of god cool2

Open SETI Physics 101

The scientific and engineering building blocks that form SETI's intellectual foundation and technology consist of Newtonian physics; Darwinian evolution; Maxwellian electromagnetic theory; classical radio technologies developed in the 1940s and 1950s; the Oparin-Haldane hypothesis of the synthesis of life from prebiotic soup and lightning (1950s); the Fourier transform and Fast Fourier Transform algorithms first used on computers of the 1960s and 1970s; very-large-scale integrated circuits of the 1980s; parallel processing (1980s) and distributed computing over today's Internet, as in SETI@Home.

Thus the SETI paradigm is a kind of Frankenstein's monster of old body parts collected from the last two centuries that somehow walks and talks but cannot align with the world in which it now finds itself.

Recently, SETI has attempted to get more in synch with current issues in astrobiology, and now considers that life - even DNA-based life due to panspermia mechanisms - may be much more pervasive than originally thought. But if life is more widespread than SETI thought, so might be intelligent life and technological societies. This possibility is rarely acknowledged in the halls and annals of SETI.

Nor does SETI reflect the implications of post-Newtonian (i.e., twentieth-century) physics for the prospect that we and other societies could achieve interstellar travel - even now that we have entered the twenty-first century and society's horizon of the possible is rapidly expanding.

Why does SETI hold so to its rigid paradigm? Perhaps because it cannot face the prospect of changes that could undermine the very reason for its existence.

[link to openseti.org]

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but did any of them know why vortical motion forms all things until the past 60 years or so?

did they know magnetic field existence by any other name in a manner that was coherent with their lifestyles after our golden age?

i wonder
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And if they did, what would/did they attribute that force to
hmm
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I can smell the conscience condensing...

Thanks for being born Sicksent..
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Why does SETI hold so to its rigid paradigm? Perhaps because it cannot face the prospect of changes that could undermine the very reason for its existence.
[link to openseti.org]
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Take away the fact that our cosmic ancestry may not (my feeling is it's probably not) be physically "provable" with today's science...and then where would the funds come from for such a project.

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Around 1119, two veterans of the First Crusade, the French knight Hugues de Payens and his relative Godfrey de Saint-Omer, proposed the creation of a monastic order for the protection of these pilgrims.

King Baldwin II of Jerusalem agreed to their request, and gave them space for a headquarters on the Temple Mount, in the captured Al Aqsa Mosque. The Temple Mount had a mystique, because it was above what was believed to be the ruins of the Temple of Solomon.

The Crusaders therefore referred to the Al Aqsa Mosque as Solomon's Temple, and it was from this location that the Order took the name of Poor Knights of Christ and the Temple of Solomon, or "Templar" knights.

The Order, with about nine knights, had few financial resources and relied on donations to survive. Their emblem was of two knights riding on a single horse, emphasizing the Order's poverty.
[link to en.wikipedia.org]
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a dome is enhanced flat vortical (circle) geometry, as is a pyramid

Al Aqsa Mosque = The Dome of the Rock on the Temple Mount
[link to en.wikipedia.org]

the templar`s from then on built all their churches circular

all Templar Churches being circular
[link to www.middletemple.org.uk]
as was their next headquaters in jerusalem ,the Church of the Holy Sepulchre in Jerusalem.

The rebuilding of which was finally completed with the financing of the huge expense by Emperor Constantine IX Monomachos and Patriarch Nicephorus of Constantinople in 1048
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what could the templar`s have discovered within judaic history that made them decide to nominate the circular dome of the rock the temple of solomon and forever after construct their temples/temples of circular construction

Noah's Ark was circular raft made of reeds, according to ancient tablet

They were written on a tablet, which dates to around 1,700BC and was found in the Middle East during the 1940s by Leonard Simmons, who subsequently passed it on to his son Douglas.
Douglas took it to Irving Finkel, an expert at the British Museum, who "took one look at it an nearly fell off his chair". He then translated the 60 lines of script, and believes it is one of the first tablets to describe the shape of the famous ark.

The tablet describes the Mesopotamian story, which became the account in the Old Testament of Noah's Ark in the Book of Genesis.

the god speaks to Atram-Hasis, a Sumerian king who is the Noah figure in early versions of the ark story.

"Wall, wall! Reed wall, reed wall! Atram-Hasis, pay heed to my advice, that you may live forever! Destroy your house, build a boat; despise possessions And save life! Draw out the boat that you will built with a circular design; Let its length and breadth be the same."

[link to www.telegraph.co.uk]

in 21 st century translation, the god, (non local consciousness), transmitted vortical geometry awareness, thus enabling humankind to preserve life
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Why does SETI hold so to its rigid paradigm? Perhaps because it cannot face the prospect of changes that could undermine the very reason for its existence.
[link to openseti.org]
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Take away the fact that our cosmic ancestry may not (my feeling is it's probably not) be physically "provable" with today's science...and then where would the funds come from for such a project.

1dunno1
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good point thumbs
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Tropical Cyclone YASI To HIT QLD - BIGGER THAN KATRINA
Thread: Tropical Cyclone YASI To HIT QLD - BIGGER THAN KATRINA

yasi has not formed full vortical geometry as yet

[link to www.tenspider-weather.net]

it`s eye will form a hexagon, if and when it does form full vortical geometry
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it looks like it yasi has formed vortical shape

as mapped by marko rodin maths, the spiral forms the hexagon, not the hexagon forms the spiral
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staying with vortical physics , nature forms hexagonal geometry from vortical effect...

Euclid showed how to inscribe a regular hexagon in a circle. To construct a regular hexagon with a compass and straightedge, draw an initial circle

....the hexagon is displayed in 2 dimensional (flat) vortical physics (circle) to those that know as observed within nature

In Medieval Jewish, Christian and Islamic legends, the Seal of Solomon was a magical signet ring said to have been possessed by King Solomon, which variously gave him the power to command demons, genies (or jinni), or to speak with animals.

solomon`s seal is a hexagon

The Babylonian Talmud contains a legend about King Solomon being kidnapped by Ashmedai, the king of demons. He succeeded in kidnapping the king by stealing his "seal of Solomon", although according to the Talmud this seal was simply a metal coin with Hebrew letters meaning the name of God, inscribed on it. It is possible that the seal was altered in the Arab tales.
[link to en.wikipedia.org]

vortical physics within our history
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the language our hebrew bible was written in dates from:

Archaic Biblical Hebrew is the oldest stratum of Biblical Hebrew, corresponding to the spoken language of roughly the 10th to 9th centuries BC

the language of that area, which christian and judiac scholars agree,the language of the bible is derived from dates to

The earliest attestations of a Semitic language are in Akkadian, dating to ca. the 23rd century BC and Eblaite, but earlier evidence of Akkadian comes from personal names in Sumerian texts. Researchers in Egypt also claim to have discovered Canaanite snake spells that "date from between 3000 and 2400 B.C

the events referred to in the bible must have occurred at least 1,500 to 2000 years before they were recorded by the hebrews

Genesis 11:1-9

1 Now the whole Earth used the same language and
the same words.

2 And it came about as they journeyed east, that
they found a plain in the land of Shinar and
settled there.
3 And they said to one another, "Come, let us make
bricks and burn them thoroughly." And they used
brick for stone, and they used tar for mortar.
4 And they said, "Come, let us build for ourselves
a city, and a tower whose top will reach into
heaven, and let us make for ourselves a name; lest
we be scattered abroad over the face of the whole
earth."
5 And the LORD came down to see the city and the
tower which the sons of men had built.
6 And the LORD said, "Behold, they are one people,
and they all have the same language. And this is
what they began to do, and now nothing which they
purpose to do will be impossible for them."

7 "Come, let Us go down and there confuse their
language, that they may not understand one
another's speech."

8 So the LORD scattered them abroad from there
over the face of the whole earth; and they stopped
building the city.
9 Therefore its name was called Babel, because
there the LORD confused the language of the whole
earth; and from there the LORD scattered them
abroad over the face of the whole earth


this is a humankind memory and interpretation of the end of our golden age and assumes we humans did something wrong to deserve what occurred



i imagine
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pyramid (s)
 Quoting: aether


if information/awareness was not formed after our golden age but carried forward from our golden age, it would make sense that some of the carried forward information would not come into effect, or be useable, until the structure of our societies formed into the same shape they were within our golden age, the shape the information is structured to function within

"Behold, they are one people,
and they all have the same language. And this is
what they began to do, and now nothing which they
purpose to do will be impossible for them
."

globalization

the structure of our globalised communication age forces this information/energy to function

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the language our hebrew bible was written in dates from:

Archaic Biblical Hebrew is the oldest stratum of Biblical Hebrew, corresponding to the spoken language of roughly the 10th to 9th centuries BC

the language of that area, which christian and judiac scholars agree,the language of the bible is derived from dates to

The earliest attestations of a Semitic language are in Akkadian, dating to ca. the 23rd century BC and Eblaite, but earlier evidence of Akkadian comes from personal names in Sumerian texts. Researchers in Egypt also claim to have discovered Canaanite snake spells that "date from between 3000 and 2400 B.C

the events referred to in the bible must have occurred at least 1,500 to 2000 years before they were recorded by the hebrews

Genesis 11:1-9

1 Now the whole Earth used the same language and
the same words.

2 And it came about as they journeyed east, that
they found a plain in the land of Shinar and
settled there.
3 And they said to one another, "Come, let us make
bricks and burn them thoroughly." And they used
brick for stone, and they used tar for mortar.
4 And they said, "Come, let us build for ourselves
a city, and a tower whose top will reach into
heaven, and let us make for ourselves a name; lest
we be scattered abroad over the face of the whole
earth."
5 And the LORD came down to see the city and the
tower which the sons of men had built.
6 And the LORD said, "Behold, they are one people,
and they all have the same language. And this is
what they began to do, and now nothing which they
purpose to do will be impossible for them."

7 "Come, let Us go down and there confuse their
language, that they may not understand one
another's speech."

8 So the LORD scattered them abroad from there
over the face of the whole earth; and they stopped
building the city.
9 Therefore its name was called Babel, because
there the LORD confused the language of the whole
earth; and from there the LORD scattered them
abroad over the face of the whole earth


this is a humankind memory and interpretation of the end of our golden age and assumes we humans did something wrong to deserve what occurred



i imagine
 Quoting: aether 1187276


pyramid (s)
 Quoting: aether


if information/awareness was not formed after our golden age but carried forward from our golden age, it would make sense that some of the carried forward information would not come into effect, or be useable, until the structure of our societies formed into the same shape they were within our golden age, the shape the information is structured to function within

"Behold, they are one people,
and they all have the same language. And this is
what they began to do, and now nothing which they
purpose to do will be impossible for them
."

globalization

the structure of our globalised communication age forces this information/energy to function
 Quoting: aether


and all our information was carried forward from our golden age.....

The most accomplished analyst of mythology in modern times was the late Mircea Eliade, chairman of the Department of History of Religions at the University of Chicago, and editor of the Encyclopedia of Religion.

From his meticulous, lifelong survey of the subject, professor Eliade drew a stunning conclusion: literally every component of early civilizations--from religion to art and architecture--expressed symbolically the desire to recover and to re-live the lost Golden Age. That which symbolically transported the participant back to the First Time, the Golden Age, was sacred. That which did not was transient and mundane, of no interest.

....every society within humankind, invisible until now, is structured to function as within our golden age

what was missing was globalisation, the (shape/structure) to prompt the information/functions to begin to spin

"Behold, they are one people,
and they all have the same language".


...one people because they use one language to understand all things...

the English language however that seems to be having a bigger impact on the world as a whole and has become the global defacto standard used in business, cultural and political exchange.

it seems that the English language more than any other is having a most pronounced and lasting impact on the collective networks of the world mind.


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the physical form our now manifested globalised shape expresses is non material (invisible) vortical/implosive physics as mapped by marko rodins maths

all non material structures within our culture not structured to function within these physics will appear and indeed will begin to collapse from the inside, in classic vortical form

over time humankind will adjust all non material structures of it`s culture to function within these physics now our shape has manifested to make it so

i imagine
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-material and nonmaterial social facts. Material social facts, he explained, have to do with the physical social structures which exerts influence on the individual. It is something that can be touched emerging because of society's shared belief that it serves a purpose.

Nonmaterial social facts are the values, norms and other conceptually held beliefs.
[link to en.wikipedia.org]

Elements of Social Structure

In order to discuss the basic division and types of social structures, the "unit" of social structure should be established first. Murdoch (Goldsmith 1978) has shown that the family is universal among stable societies and thus should be regarded as the "unit" of social structure. Culture, as the product of the interactions in society, both material (between people and physical objects) and non-material (in relation to meanings, beliefs, language, values, ideas, expectations, etc.) is shared, learned, and intergenerational. It also forms the foundation of social structure.
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and it is the non material structures within humankinds cultures that will reform within the material structures they function within
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time for a song..

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Question 24th Jan 2011 The problem centers on the Four Elemental Worlds as defined by all 3 branches of Qabbalah vs what the Chinese Sages called the Four Phenomena and how these things may be interpreted in lieu of the Tree of Life.

Qabbalistic doctrine asserts that the Tree of Life emerges via the Four Elemental Worlds which descend vertically from Fire to Water to Air to Earth providing a kind of primordial conditions that set the stage and also define the rules for what happens next. ..........
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what it is showing is that there is a 5th element, it is invisible or, as yet, unidentified/named

it has the same effect as the four elements

there have always been five and they have always done what they do because there are five
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marko rodin maths is putting flash on the 5th element
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The Four Elemental Worlds descending Fire(3)-->Water(0)-->Air(2)-->Earth(1) can be considered chronologically coherent if the chronology is taken to be spiralling / oscillating


It's another manifestation of the Flux Spiral
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now they have the right answer all will benifit
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update

I'm still trying to sort out what the Spiral is actually telling us, since the Tree of Life is still constructed vertically, following a routine linear ordering of sephiroth & paths from 1 - 32. It seems to me that the Spiral is simply telling us how the Elemental Fields are to be constructed, whereas their placement is still based upon the linear chronology of the Heaven Descending Sequence. And we still have the Earth Ascending to weigh in, which currently I have fused to the Yin side of the overall Tree equation.

So - in general - thus far - it seems to me that the Spiral defines how fields should be constructed while the Pillars are still fundamentally linear sorts of progressions. We can entertain the idea that Stars and Trees are very different and thus require different kinds of methods but nothing thus far seems to be suggesting any kind of abandonment of linear progressions altogether. Nothing I can identify at least. As a matter of prudence, it is still probably a good idea to attack from more than one angle alone however and there are many things we can do in binary and ternary structures that do not reference the Tree directly.


order and sequence/structure and function

the spiral manifest before all else

it`s ingredients and motion forms all things

awareness of the structure and function of the spiral is awareness of why all is as it is

distributed charge (energy/information) in all things and all area

the magnetic field of distributed charge in all things/ all area provides the dimension and energy/information for all things to exist

charge/magnetic field naturally spiral providing motion/life of all things

awareness of the structure and function of the spiral manifests infinite reasons why all is as it is whilst ensuring a singular how all is as it is

thereafter, no matter what the individual translation of why may be, implementation of purpose formed from that translation is understood by all else because the how is known


[b]The problem centers on the Four Elemental Worlds as defined by all 3 branches of Qabbalah vs what the Chinese Sages called the Four Phenomena and how these things may be interpreted in lieu of the Tree of Life.
western thought

Between the 22nd and 12th centuries BC, Chinese thought was integrated into a robust system of cosmological and political significance. Incorporated within this were the six classes of occult arts, more specifically (1) astrology, (2) almanacs, (3) the five elements, (4) divination by stalks, (5) other methods of divination and (6) the system of forms (which includes physiognomy and fengshui or geomancy).

in the east they acknowledge and utilise the six sided hexagram (vortical) within 6 disciplines

The basic building blocks for this elaborate system were the Five Elements, which were thought to make up the universe, namely Water, Fire, Wood, Metal and Earth. Each of these five base elements was grouped with physical phenomena, which they were thought to influence, thus creating five different sets of forces or powers, termed the Five Powers.

forming 5 elements not 4 as apparently shown within the qabbalah

Since the Ancients assumed that nature responded to the actions of humans, the interaction of the Five Powers was explained in such a way as to relate changes in time and space to human conduct. Thus a relationship was established between the conduct of nature and that of humankind.

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in 21st century translation we call aether the 5th element

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The problem centers on the Four Elemental Worlds as defined by all 3 branches of Qabbalah vs what the Chinese Sages called the Four Phenomena and how these things may be interpreted in lieu of the Tree of Life.
western thought

Between the 22nd and 12th centuries BC, Chinese thought was integrated into a robust system of cosmological and political significance. Incorporated within this were the six classes of occult arts, more specifically (1) astrology, (2) almanacs, (3) the five elements, (4) divination by stalks, (5) other methods of divination and (6) the system of forms (which includes physiognomy and fengshui or geomancy).

in the east they acknowledge and utilise the six sided hexagram (vortical) within 6 disciplines

The basic building blocks for this elaborate system were the Five Elements, which were thought to make up the universe, namely Water, Fire, Wood, Metal and Earth. Each of these five base elements was grouped with physical phenomena, which they were thought to influence, thus creating five different sets of forces or powers, termed the Five Powers.

forming 5 elements not 4 as apparently shown within the qabbalah

Since the Ancients assumed that nature responded to the actions of humans, the interaction of the Five Powers was explained in such a way as to relate changes in time and space to human conduct. Thus a relationship was established between the conduct of nature and that of humankind.

[link to www.imperialtours.net]

in 21st century translation we call plasma the 5th element
 Quoting: aether


it appears in the west, vortical physics and the fifth element have been observed in nature and maintained within our societies awareness but have never been incorporated within a structure to allow their function

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the language our hebrew bible was written in dates from:

Archaic Biblical Hebrew is the oldest stratum of Biblical Hebrew, corresponding to the spoken language of roughly the 10th to 9th centuries BC

the language of that area, which christian and judiac scholars agree,the language of the bible is derived from dates to

The earliest attestations of a Semitic language are in Akkadian, dating to ca. the 23rd century BC and Eblaite, but earlier evidence of Akkadian comes from personal names in Sumerian texts. Researchers in Egypt also claim to have discovered Canaanite snake spells that "date from between 3000 and 2400 B.C

the events referred to in the bible must have occurred at least 1,500 to 2000 years before they were recorded by the hebrews

Genesis 11:1-9

1 Now the whole Earth used the same language and
the same words.

2 And it came about as they journeyed east, that
they found a plain in the land of Shinar and
settled there.
3 And they said to one another, "Come, let us make
bricks and burn them thoroughly." And they used
brick for stone, and they used tar for mortar.
4 And they said, "Come, let us build for ourselves
a city, and a tower whose top will reach into
heaven, and let us make for ourselves a name; lest
we be scattered abroad over the face of the whole
earth."
5 And the LORD came down to see the city and the
tower which the sons of men had built.
6 And the LORD said, "Behold, they are one people,
and they all have the same language. And this is
what they began to do, and now nothing which they
purpose to do will be impossible for them."

7 "Come, let Us go down and there confuse their
language, that they may not understand one
another's speech."

8 So the LORD scattered them abroad from there
over the face of the whole earth; and they stopped
building the city.
9 Therefore its name was called Babel, because
there the LORD confused the language of the whole
earth; and from there the LORD scattered them
abroad over the face of the whole earth


this is a humankind memory and interpretation of the end of our golden age and assumes we humans did something wrong to deserve what occurred



i imagine
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pyramid (s)
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if information/awareness was not formed after our golden age but carried forward from our golden age, it would make sense that some of the carried forward information would not come into effect, or be useable, until the structure of our societies formed into the same shape they were within our golden age, the shape the information is structured to function within

"Behold, they are one people,
and they all have the same language. And this is
what they began to do, and now nothing which they
purpose to do will be impossible for them
."

globalization

the structure of our globalised communication age forces this information/energy to function
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and all our information was carried forward from our golden age.....

The most accomplished analyst of mythology in modern times was the late Mircea Eliade, chairman of the Department of History of Religions at the University of Chicago, and editor of the Encyclopedia of Religion.

From his meticulous, lifelong survey of the subject, professor Eliade drew a stunning conclusion: literally every component of early civilizations--from religion to art and architecture--expressed symbolically the desire to recover and to re-live the lost Golden Age. That which symbolically transported the participant back to the First Time, the Golden Age, was sacred. That which did not was transient and mundane, of no interest.

....every society within humankind, invisible until now, is structured to function as within our golden age

what was missing was globalisation, the (shape/structure) to prompt the information/functions to begin to spin

"Behold, they are one people,
and they all have the same language".


...one people because they use one language to understand all things...

the English language however that seems to be having a bigger impact on the world as a whole and has become the global defacto standard used in business, cultural and political exchange.

it seems that the English language more than any other is having a most pronounced and lasting impact on the collective networks of the world mind.

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CHINESE PEOPLE are becoming increasingly obsessed with speaking English, and efforts to improve English-language proficiency mean that at some stage this year, the world’s most populous nation will become the world’s largest English-speaking country. Two billion people are learning English worldwide, and a very large percentage of them are in China,

Saturday, February 5, 2011
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The problem centers on the Four Elemental Worlds as defined by all 3 branches of Qabbalah vs what the Chinese Sages called the Four Phenomena and how these things may be interpreted in lieu of the Tree of Life.
western thought

Between the 22nd and 12th centuries BC, Chinese thought was integrated into a robust system of cosmological and political significance. Incorporated within this were the six classes of occult arts, more specifically (1) astrology, (2) almanacs, (3) the five elements, (4) divination by stalks, (5) other methods of divination and (6) the system of forms (which includes physiognomy and fengshui or geomancy).

in the east they acknowledge and utilise the six sided hexagram (vortical) within 6 disciplines

The basic building blocks for this elaborate system were the Five Elements, which were thought to make up the universe, namely Water, Fire, Wood, Metal and Earth. Each of these five base elements was grouped with physical phenomena, which they were thought to influence, thus creating five different sets of forces or powers, termed the Five Powers.

forming 5 elements not 4 as apparently shown within the qabbalah

Since the Ancients assumed that nature responded to the actions of humans, the interaction of the Five Powers was explained in such a way as to relate changes in time and space to human conduct. Thus a relationship was established between the conduct of nature and that of humankind.

[link to www.imperialtours.net]

in 21st century translation we call plasma the 5th element
 Quoting: aether


it appears in the west, vortical physics and the fifth element have been observed in nature and maintained within our societies awareness but have never been incorporated within a structure to allow their function
 Quoting: aether


CHINESE PEOPLE are becoming increasingly obsessed with speaking English, and efforts to improve English-language proficiency mean that at some stage this year, the world’s most populous nation will become the world’s largest English-speaking country. Two billion people are learning English worldwide, and a very large percentage of them are in China

...one people because they use one language to understand all things...

west will understand east as the east forms the language of the west

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in the west eastern orthodox maintains vortical geometry within it`s strucrures

Eastern Orthodox church architecture
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The Eastern Orthodox faithful believe that John was the last of the Old Testament prophets, thus serving as a bridge between that period of revelation and the New Covenant. They also teach that, following his death, John descended into Hades and there once more preached that Jesus the Messiah was coming, so he was the Forerunner of Christ in death as he had been in life

is their official doctorine

According to Sacred Tradition, John the Baptist appears at the time of death to those who have not heard the Gospel of Christ, and preaches the Good News to them, that all may have the opportunity to be saved. Orthodox churches will often have an icon of St. John the Baptist in a place of honor on the iconostasis, and he is frequently mentioned during the Divine Services. Every Tuesday throughout the year is dedicated to his memory.

their secret is john taught jesus to be what he become

john transmitted information to jesus thus providing evidence that all can become like he
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all systems, all wave systems, which always are ultimately charged compressing, that no wave system actually organises it`s self into stability unless it first becomes a tornado on a doughnut

there is no other form in physics or hydro-dynamics


In mathematics, a toroid is a doughnut-shaped object

electron and proton is based on a toroidal shape for the electric charge distribution. Although it has been shown that such a shape can be in equilibrium, it has not been shown to be stable.

electron spiral torus is stable without an external magnetic field.

In geometry, a torus (pl. tori) is a surface of revolution generated by revolving a circle in three dimensional space about an axis coplanar with the circle

In geometry, a set of points in space is coplanar if all the points lie in the same geometric plane

tornado on a doughnut = electron spiral torus

all systems, all wave systems are electrical (charged) by nature at our sub atomic

charged compression analogy

Homogeneous charge compression ignition (HCCI) is a form of internal combustion in which well-mixed fuel and oxidizer (typically air) are compressed to the point of auto-ignition.

charge compression symbolises energy/information into something initiates response (feedback) back out
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The Levant includes modern Lebanon, Syria, Jordan, Israel and the Palestinian territories.

The Natufian culture

was a Mesolithic culture that existed in the Levant, a region in the Eastern Mediterranean. It was unusual in that it was sedentary, or semi-sedentary, before the introduction of agriculture.

Radiocarbon dating places this culture just before the end of the Pleistocene, in the period 12,500 to 9,500 BC

The period is commonly split into two subperiods: Early Natufian (12,500–10,800 BC) and Late Natufian (10,800–9500 BC). The Late Natufian most likely occurred in tandem with the Younger Dryas (10,800 to 9500 BC). In the Levant, there are more than a hundred kinds of cereals, fruits, nuts and other edible parts of plants, and the flora of the Levant during the Natufian period was not the dry, barren, and thorny landscape of today, but parkland and woodland

The Natufian developed in the same region as the earlier Kebaran complex, and is generally seen as a successor which developed from at least elements within that earlier culture

[link to en.wikipedia.org]

The Kebaran or Kebarian culture was an archaeological culture in the eastern Mediterranean area (c. 18,000 to 10,000 BC), named after its type site, Kebara Cave south of Haifa. The Kebaran were a highly mobile nomadic population, composed of hunters and gatherers in the Levant and Sinai areas who utilized microlithic tools.
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The Levant includes modern Lebanon, Syria, Jordan, Israel and the Palestinian territories.

The Natufian culture

was a Mesolithic culture that existed in the Levant, a region in the Eastern Mediterranean. It was unusual in that it was sedentary, or semi-sedentary, before the introduction of agriculture.

Radiocarbon dating places this culture just before the end of the Pleistocene, in the period 12,500 to 9,500 BC

The period is commonly split into two subperiods: Early Natufian (12,500–10,800 BC) and Late Natufian (10,800–9500 BC). The Late Natufian most likely occurred in tandem with the Younger Dryas (10,800 to 9500 BC). In the Levant, there are more than a hundred kinds of cereals, fruits, nuts and other edible parts of plants, and the flora of the Levant during the Natufian period was not the dry, barren, and thorny landscape of today, but parkland and woodland

The Natufian developed in the same region as the earlier Kebaran complex, and is generally seen as a successor which developed from at least elements within that earlier culture

[link to en.wikipedia.org]

The Kebaran or Kebarian culture was an archaeological culture in the eastern Mediterranean area (c. 18,000 to 10,000 BC), named after its type site, Kebara Cave south of Haifa. The Kebaran were a highly mobile nomadic population, composed of hunters and gatherers in the Levant and Sinai areas who utilized microlithic tools.
[link to en.wikipedia.org]
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Archaic Biblical Hebrew is the oldest stratum of Biblical Hebrew, corresponding to the spoken language of roughly the 10th to 9th centuries BC

christian and judiac authority dates the writing of genesis

1.1 ‘In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth.’

within a language at least 16000 years younger than the topic it describes

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israel`s government in the 21st century tells us:

Controversy centers around the word "Hebrew" in this passage, and the discovery of the word, "Habiru" in numerous ancient sources.

Initially, Biblical scholars were quick to point out the striking similarities between these people and the Hebrews of the Old Testament.

Over 200 references to these people have been found throughout the whole of Ancient Near East literature. Such references have shed further light on the Habiru.
[link to www.israel-a-history-of.com]

Ancient Sumerian Sources (2200 - 2000 B.C.E.) : The earliest known references occur in ancient Sumerian cuneiform tablets. The ancient Sumerians were the first civilization in recorded history, and possess mysterious origins.
[link to www.israel-a-history-of.com]

Ancient Egyptian Literature (1470 B.C.E. - 1140 B.C.E.) : Ancient Egyptian literature dealt with the Habiru, calling them the Apiru. The Hebrew/Apiru connection is especially interesting in Egyptian literature, including the below Amarna Letters.
[link to www.israel-a-history-of.com]

The Amarna Letters (1750 - 1350 B.C.E.) : The initial discovery of the Habiru surfaced with the discovery of the Amarna Letters in Egypt. This collection is the most extensive treatment of these people from ancient sources. These letters depict the land of Canaan in a state of upheaval.
[link to www.israel-a-history-of.com]

The Akkadians (2350 - 2000 B.C.E.) : In the ancient kingdom of Mari, over 25,000 Akkadian tablets were discovered. These tablets provided place names for over 500 previously unknown places. The Mari tablets shed invaluable light on the identity of the Habiru as well.
[link to www.israel-a-history-of.com]

Ancient Hurrian Sources 9 (2500 B.C.E.) : Nuzi was a Hurrian city in the kingdom of Arrapha. In this agricultural city, over 5,000 tablets were discovered. These tablets mention these people being forced to enter domestic service.
[link to www.israel-a-history-of.com]

The Ugarit Texts (1600 - 1200 B.C.E.): The Ugarit discovery proved to be one of the single most important archaeological finds in the modern era. Texts from an ancient scroll school and library led to the decipherment of Ugaritic. These texts also mention the Apiru, a different appellation for this group of people.
[link to www.israel-a-history-of.com]
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hi


We were just talking about the dates of civilizations here in respect with the Golden Age and its date of era.

Out of curiousity, during what dates to you find-imagine the Golden Age existed?

Sorry if you've already posted this and I missed it.

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