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hi


We were just talking about the dates of civilizations here in respect with the Golden Age and its date of era.

Out of curiousity, during what dates to you find-imagine the Golden Age existed?

Sorry if you've already posted this and I missed it.
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hey psemeni hi

the "peoples experts" whom are still finalising their data (los alamos and others), i am aware, are going to confirm that our golden age was gone at least 15000 yeas ago and our earth was by then experiencing the physical consequences of the cause of it`s ending

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thinking about it now you said it, 25000 years ago it ended seems/feels like to me, as in, remote cool2

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hi


We were just talking about the dates of civilizations here in respect with the Golden Age and its date of era.

Out of curiousity, during what dates to you find-imagine the Golden Age existed?

Sorry if you've already posted this and I missed it.
 Quoting: Psemeni


hey psemeni hi

the "peoples experts" whom are still finalising their data (los alamos and others), i am aware, are going to confirm that our golden age was gone at least 15000 yeas ago and our earth was by then experiencing the physical consequences of the cause of it`s ending

EDIT

thinking about it now you said it, 25000 years ago it ended seems/feels like to me, as in, remote cool2
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Well, cool2 , considering it likely had a rise (hmm or did it? Or was the Golden Age the first civilization?) and definitely had a fall there would be the span of time that existed. Perhaps the time span was 25,000 to 15,000...an apx. 10,000 year long civilization era.

blink...lovey, can you imagine having 10,000 years of time - a WHOLE 10,000 years - to exist in a harmonious environment.

Lovely to visit with such an environment for a moment. Puts a smile on my face. I remember such an environment, and that's how I can revisit its...perfectness.

Thanks, aether...love ya, man! hf
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"We just walked right through all the stones, all the bottles, and whatever they threw. We have won a major Victory."

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(hmm or did it? Or was the Golden Age the first civilization?)
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Lol, now that I look at that again I should say that's just me thinking out loud. It brought some interesting thoughts whilst considering some other things.
Post 7/11/10--

"We just walked right through all the stones, all the bottles, and whatever they threw. We have won a major Victory."

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hi


We were just talking about the dates of civilizations here in respect with the Golden Age and its date of era.

Out of curiousity, during what dates to you find-imagine the Golden Age existed?

Sorry if you've already posted this and I missed it.
 Quoting: Psemeni


hey psemeni hi

the "peoples experts" whom are still finalising their data (los alamos and others), i am aware, are going to confirm that our golden age was gone at least 15000 yeas ago and our earth was by then experiencing the physical consequences of the cause of it`s ending

EDIT

thinking about it now you said it, 25000 years ago it ended seems/feels like to me, as in, remote cool2
 Quoting: aether



Well, cool2 , considering it likely had a rise (hmm or did it? Or was the Golden Age the first civilization?) and definitely had a fall there would be the span of time that existed. Perhaps the time span was 25,000 to 15,000...an apx. 10,000 year long civilization era.

blink...lovey, can you imagine having 10,000 years of time - a WHOLE 10,000 years - to exist in a harmonious environment.

Lovely to visit with such an environment for a moment. Puts a smile on my face. I remember such an environment, and that's how I can revisit its...perfectness.

Thanks, aether...love ya, man! hf
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there is no record within our collective humankind memory of a beginning of our golden age, our collective memory only knows our past as golden age then not

our memory records we always lived within our golden age

the cause of end of our golden age was a unique planetary configuration experience that could not have occurred before, as indeed it, should never occur again

remote confirms there is no beginning to focus upon and effects of "fluffy" charged magnetic clouds earth often passes through appear to have flowed as in "undulating waves" never altering our harmony

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The problem centers on the Four Elemental Worlds as defined by all 3 branches of Qabbalah vs what the Chinese Sages called the Four Phenomena and how these things may be interpreted in lieu of the Tree of Life.
western thought

Between the 22nd and 12th centuries BC, Chinese thought was integrated into a robust system of cosmological and political significance. Incorporated within this were the six classes of occult arts, more specifically (1) astrology, (2) almanacs, (3) the five elements, (4) divination by stalks, (5) other methods of divination and (6) the system of forms (which includes physiognomy and fengshui or geomancy).

in the east they acknowledge and utilise the six sided hexagram (vortical) within 6 disciplines

The basic building blocks for this elaborate system were the Five Elements, which were thought to make up the universe, namely Water, Fire, Wood, Metal and Earth. Each of these five base elements was grouped with physical phenomena, which they were thought to influence, thus creating five different sets of forces or powers, termed the Five Powers.

forming 5 elements not 4 as apparently shown within the qabbalah

Since the Ancients assumed that nature responded to the actions of humans, the interaction of the Five Powers was explained in such a way as to relate changes in time and space to human conduct. Thus a relationship was established between the conduct of nature and that of humankind.

[link to www.imperialtours.net]

in 21st century translation we call plasma the 5th element
 Quoting: aether


it appears in the west, vortical physics and the fifth element have been observed in nature and maintained within our societies awareness but have never been incorporated within a structure to allow their function
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There is no Classical Chinese word equivalent in meaning to the English word time. The original meaning of shi is “timeliness” or “seasonality,” in which both time and space are affected. In other words, the Chinese idea of time is understood within the specific space.

According to Yuelin , or the Monthly Order, written no later than third century B.C., spring affects cardinal point east, and is dominated by the agent of wood; summer affects south, and is dominated by fire agent; autumn affects west, and is dominated by metal agent; winter affects north, and is dominated by water agent.

The earth agent affects the central location of the intersections of the four cardinal directions, and dominates the four seasons. (Yuelin, SZ, 1352-87) By extension, shi, seasonality or timeliness refers to doing something at the appropriate time (which is determined by harmonious associations with the theory of the Five Agent), and at which time an action can succeed.

In the early Chinese texts, there is no story that describes the creation of the world out of nothingness and marks the beginning of time.

In Chinese chronologies, time is not counted from a single date, such as the birth of Christ, but from repeated historical beginnings, or the foundation of a dynasty, or a royal family. On the personal level, individual lives, certainly bounded by birth and death, but each person's life is regarded as a link within the continuum of the ancestral lineage, which includes both of the living and the dead.

However, the ancestral spirits related directly to the living through rituals, such as food offering etc. These spirits were not gods like those of ancient Greece, nor were they souls who stood before an almighty God to be judged.

The approach of describing Chinese idea of time as cyclical, or sometimes, of spiral by sinologists derives from a play on the Western geometrical metaphor for time, is the alternative of a straight line.

It is helpful as a means of differentiating the Chinese concept from the Western metaphor of a straight line, but not a Chinese metaphor of time.
[link to www.literati-tradition.com]
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undivided time

the next visualization to form into awareness

undivided time = eternal awareness
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undivided time has not manifested within the imagination of humankind since our undivided time within our golden age
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The problem centers on the Four Elemental Worlds as defined by all 3 branches of Qabbalah vs what the Chinese Sages called the Four Phenomena and how these things may be interpreted in lieu of the Tree of Life.
western thought

Between the 22nd and 12th centuries BC, Chinese thought was integrated into a robust system of cosmological and political significance. Incorporated within this were the six classes of occult arts, more specifically (1) astrology, (2) almanacs, (3) the five elements, (4) divination by stalks, (5) other methods of divination and (6) the system of forms (which includes physiognomy and fengshui or geomancy).

in the east they acknowledge and utilise the six sided hexagram (vortical) within 6 disciplines

The basic building blocks for this elaborate system were the Five Elements, which were thought to make up the universe, namely Water, Fire, Wood, Metal and Earth. Each of these five base elements was grouped with physical phenomena, which they were thought to influence, thus creating five different sets of forces or powers, termed the Five Powers.

forming 5 elements not 4 as apparently shown within the qabbalah

Since the Ancients assumed that nature responded to the actions of humans, the interaction of the Five Powers was explained in such a way as to relate changes in time and space to human conduct. Thus a relationship was established between the conduct of nature and that of humankind.

[link to www.imperialtours.net]

in 21st century translation we call plasma the 5th element
 Quoting: aether


it appears in the west, vortical physics and the fifth element have been observed in nature and maintained within our societies awareness but have never been incorporated within a structure to allow their function
 Quoting: aether



There is no Classical Chinese word equivalent in meaning to the English word time. The original meaning of shi is “timeliness” or “seasonality,” in which both time and space are affected. In other words, the Chinese idea of time is understood within the specific space.

According to Yuelin , or the Monthly Order, written no later than third century B.C., spring affects cardinal point east, and is dominated by the agent of wood; summer affects south, and is dominated by fire agent; autumn affects west, and is dominated by metal agent; winter affects north, and is dominated by water agent.

The earth agent affects the central location of the intersections of the four cardinal directions, and dominates the four seasons. (Yuelin, SZ, 1352-87) By extension, shi, seasonality or timeliness refers to doing something at the appropriate time (which is determined by harmonious associations with the theory of the Five Agent), and at which time an action can succeed.

In the early Chinese texts, there is no story that describes the creation of the world out of nothingness and marks the beginning of time.

In Chinese chronologies, time is not counted from a single date, such as the birth of Christ, but from repeated historical beginnings, or the foundation of a dynasty, or a royal family. On the personal level, individual lives, certainly bounded by birth and death, but each person's life is regarded as a link within the continuum of the ancestral lineage, which includes both of the living and the dead.

However, the ancestral spirits related directly to the living through rituals, such as food offering etc. These spirits were not gods like those of ancient Greece, nor were they souls who stood before an almighty God to be judged.

The approach of describing Chinese idea of time as cyclical, or sometimes, of spiral by sinologists derives from a play on the Western geometrical metaphor for time, is the alternative of a straight line.

It is helpful as a means of differentiating the Chinese concept from the Western metaphor of a straight line, but not a Chinese metaphor of time.
[link to www.literati-tradition.com]
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"each person's life is regarded as a link within the continuum of the ancestral lineage, which includes both of the living and the dead".


"That a mode of transmission of shared informational patterns and archetypes might exist did gain some tacit acceptance, when it was proposed as the theory of the collective unconscious by renowned psychiatrist Carl Jung. According to Sheldrake, the theory of morphic fields might provide an explanation for Jung's concept as well. Also, he agrees that the concept of akashic records, term from Vedas representing the "library" of all the experiences and memories of human minds (souls) through their physical lifetime, can be related to morphic fields, since one's past (an akashic record) is a mental form, consisting of thoughts as simpler mental forms (all processed by the same brain), and a group of similar or related mental forms also have their associated (collective) morphic field. (Sheldrake's view on memory-traces is that they are "non-local", and not located in the brain."
Rupert Sheldrake
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the connection to eastern awareness is being translated to western awareness by our technology

carl sagan expressed it in contact

then she meets her dad who is not her dad showing the newly understood forming (born) and reforming (dying) of the non material dimension (aether) forming the personality/soul within the human structure and maintaining or nor memory/personality upon reformation personal choice
aether

dan winter expresses our ability to retain memory upon reforming (death)

"In the early Chinese texts, there is no story that describes the creation of the world out of nothingness and marks the beginning of time"

expressions of undivided time (spiral)

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awareness of what the kogi are seeing before the 21st century was impossible to all but a few in the west

"the world is the space between memory and possibility, the physical trace of an idea, without thought it cannot exist"

"there are stones that are the guardians of the world"

"the world was shaped in thought, pure consciousness"


the bigger picture, not that they are experiencing environmental change , as is our whole solar system

it`s bigger and deeper than that

"you have to learn how to keep the world alive, you have to learn how to share in our work"

that is not about pollution or anything in a traditional l sense

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hf can't wait to see what videos those are...
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awareness of what the kogi are seeing before the 21st century was impossible to all but a few in the west

"the world is the space between memory and possibility, the physical trace of an idea, without thought it cannot exist"

"there are stones that are the guardians of the world"

"the world was shaped in thought, pure consciousness"


the bigger picture, not that they are experiencing environmental change , as is our whole solar system

it`s bigger and deeper than that

"you have to learn how to keep the world alive, you have to learn how to share in our work"

that is not about pollution or anything in a traditional l sense
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No its not. I've been channeling on the incoming wave, and based on resonance I we - and particularly aether - are in for ride.

Aether, remember your definition as reality shifts - it'll look like inception - I'll be quietly lurking, if you need anything reach out. Yang=8. I for E, and you have a credit with me. Keep channeling, we're listening :)
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awareness of what the kogi are seeing before the 21st century was impossible to all but a few in the west

"the world is the space between memory and possibility, the physical trace of an idea, without thought it cannot exist"

"there are stones that are the guardians of the world"

"the world was shaped in thought, pure consciousness"


the bigger picture, not that they are experiencing environmental change , as is our whole solar system

it`s bigger and deeper than that

"you have to learn how to keep the world alive, you have to learn how to share in our work"

that is not about pollution or anything in a traditional l sense
 Quoting: aether


No its not. I've been channeling on the incoming wave, and based on resonance I we - and particularly aether - are in for ride.

Aether, remember your definition as reality shifts - it'll look like inception - I'll be quietly lurking, if you need anything reach out. Yang=8. I for E, and you have a credit with me. Keep channeling, we're listening :)
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thank you 8

if you need anything reach out.

i will
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hi


We were just talking about the dates of civilizations here in respect with the Golden Age and its date of era.

Out of curiousity, during what dates to you find-imagine the Golden Age existed?

Sorry if you've already posted this and I missed it.
 Quoting: Psemeni


hey psemeni hi

the "peoples experts" whom are still finalising their data (los alamos and others), i am aware, are going to confirm that our golden age was gone at least 15000 yeas ago and our earth was by then experiencing the physical consequences of the cause of it`s ending

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thinking about it now you said it, 25000 years ago it ended seems/feels like to me, as in, remote cool2
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From his meticulous, lifelong survey of the subject, professor Eliade drew a stunning conclusion: literally every component of early civilizations--from religion to art and architecture--expressed symbolically the desire to recover and to re-live the lost Golden Age. That which symbolically transported the participant back to the First Time, the Golden Age, was sacred. That which did not was transient and mundane, of no interest
History of Religions at the University of Chicago,


"Basic hard cold reality is that our entire biological world is based on a gigantically complex information code and no natural process, electrical or otherwise, can create such a thing. In any reasonable scheme of things, intelligence has to arise FIRST and create biology. Having biology arise first (evolution) is clearly unworkable.

The RNA/DNA information code which forms the basis of all life appears to be the work of a single pair of hands.

Nonetheless when you arrive at a point somewhere back 6000 - 30000 years ago on our own planet the situation is significantly different from that i.e. what you appear to have at that point is the engineering and re-engineering of complex life forms being a sort of a cottage industry with numerous hands involved. There is no rational way to think that a benevolent God would create biting flies, chiggers, ticks, scorpions, or the myriad creatures of Pandora's box. Likewise there is no reason to think that an omnipotent God would need to go through 50 - 100 kinds of horses or elephants before getting to the one he wanted."


we have a time frame to explore, the past 30,000 yrs

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every component of early civilizations--from religion to art and architecture--expressed symbolically the desire to recover and to re-live the lost Golden Age

what if the symbolism of religion, architecture, art etc. we copied, because we believed it must contain the intelligence to have formed us and our environment when in fact, what we copied was formed by our expression of that intelligence, before commencement and eventual loss of our golden age and it`s consequences to our personalities

what we reformed physically would remain "hollow" spiritually until we were aware once more and expressed again that same creative intelligence that formed it originally

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Nonetheless when you arrive at a point somewhere back 6000 - 30000 years ago on our own planet the situation is significantly different from that i.e. what you appear to have at that point is the engineering and re-engineering of complex life forms being a sort of a cottage industry with numerous hands involved.

working backwards as in towards us, our golden age ending 25000 yrs ago approx then 24000 yrs approx of planetary realignment and transmutation effects as a consequence until final stabilization, within our current alignment, approx 6000 yrs ago starts to fit cool2
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Nonetheless when you arrive at a point somewhere back 6000 - 30000 years ago on our own planet the situation is significantly different from that i.e. what you appear to have at that point is the engineering and re-engineering of complex life forms being a sort of a cottage industry with numerous hands involved.

working backwards as in towards us, our golden age ending 25000 yrs ago approx then 24000 yrs approx of planetary realignment and transmutation effects as a consequence until final stabilization, within our current alignment, approx 6000 yrs ago starts to fit cool2
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us being of different structure and function to animals, plants etc.etc. we did not alter physically, but all else often did, as we will explore rockon
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how did i sign out for that last post wtf

time for a song

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Too bad Marko Rodin calls the 'central axis' (the 9) in his toroidal mathematics the 'omni-dimension' ...

RodinAerodynamics.org
[link to www.rense.com]

and after 16 years of doing my best, we still don't have a 'Foundation for Omni-Dimensional Science & Spirituality' - which was supposed to be in place by 1998 ....

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DEATH TO THE HOUSE OF ROTHSCHILD.

The one with the fused pegasus unicorn & mandala that overlays rothschild's hexagram.

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every component of early civilizations--from religion to art and architecture--expressed symbolically the desire to recover and to re-live the lost Golden Age

what if the symbolism of religion, architecture, art etc. we copied, because we believed it must contain the intelligence to have formed us and our environment when in fact, what we copied was formed by our expression of that intelligence, before commencement and eventual loss of our golden age and it`s consequences to our personalities

what we reformed physically would remain "hollow" spiritually until we were aware once more and expressed again that same creative intelligence that formed it originally
 Quoting: aether


I like that aether. It resonates perfectly with other interactions we've had on this topic, and sparked my intitive side on this exact subject...

Thread: We are Not What We Once Were...and Not Yet Decided What We are...but We are Remembering
hey sickscent

“My reality is just as valid as your reality” is not universally true."

human self (memory) is maintained within our local environment

our local environment (memory of self) eternally was within an anode glow (golden age) which limited our ability to know anything about the wider universe since we could not see stars.

that environment became as it is now and we are not yet peaceful with our new local environment (memory of self)

we are not what we were and not yet decided what we are

et`s possessing the ability to reach us enjoy the comfort of memory of self within our local environment

it is hoped that humankinds requirement of sense of self is strong enough to desire contact with others whom possess matching sense of self

in anticipation of that hope, focusing humankinds attention on the ingredients of what self contains became important within disclosure
Thread: Spiritual Rapture, Dream States, Creative Insurges - Schumann Resonance and the Natural Frequencies of the Human Brain...and the Incoming (Page 11)

disclosure is awareness of self (memory information)
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My thought patterns on specific concepts that the ancients put forth, that in turn have become constructs of our reality, have changed in the last year.

Imagine, knowing your spirit while being physical, knowing what is beyond physical death, being in communion with not only your past, but others past...being in communion with the universe...no disease, no hunger, no violence, no lies, no distrust in the human condition...rather, everything about your spiritual/physical family of beings is pure...nothing missing...the veil is not only gone, it had yet to even come into existence.

Back then, energies began leaving, and the veil was coming. Some began thinking of what exactly that might entail, though they could not imagine it as it truly would become...because the veil...the forgetting...the separation had yet to make mankind fall into tragedy, trauma...fear. Imagine...fear was not even in their reality...they were connected to everything. It was the Golden Age.

As cycles spin round, spiral in form as the universe decrees, the increased energies that birthed their Golden Age - their own version of the Fluff that they resided in - began falling, spinning away from the solar system into mythology, receding into the aether behind.

We spiritual beings called humans were entering the darkness at the same rate that the Fluff fell away, falling away from knowing the universe, falling far from the comfort of God's communion...A new name took hold...The Fallen. And the process of forgetting our souls began...of being separated from the divine, of the eternal fall from being a conscious spiritual knowing being...to being utterly alone...a massive scarring took place within our collective pysche. During the falling process, when we were in the throes of forgetting what we are, we scrambled to remember what we were losing...Memories carved in stone, raised as monuments...frozen memories defying time. Some held on longer (they had yet to forget, but in their horror, they witnessed others already fallen) but knew that soon we all were going to lose contact with our souls...and so ensued massive trauma, something much worse than death, not only a tragedy to the human condition, but to our divine souls...the horror that was to come...the killing fields that would soak the world through...

They knew that when the Fluff left (the interstellar cloud, though they thought of it differently, of course) we would FORGET...so they wrote to the future...I Ching, 'religious texts', pyramids, secret knowledge, calendars, etc...someday they knew that there would come a day (the universe decrees the spinning of the spiral, after all) when a new Golden Age would surface...and just as our memory once fell away with a receding interstellar cloud, memory would rise once more, like a surging wave, an all encompassing spirit arriving on the cloud of God...

So, in attempts to tell us how to live properly, one with all, without killing/stealing/lying...without fear...they shouted from the past.

But there was a problem...They did not know how far reality would change. When going from one age of darkness, to an age of light, and vice-versa, 'reality' is different...it changes...so confusion and misunderstanding and convolusion reigned as one age living in a fading light, tried to communicate to the coming age of darkness.

But they shouted as loud as they could...on stone, on copper, vellum in sealed vase, in symbols, in writing, books, in visions, in dreams, in myths, in prophecies, on pyramids, on monoliths, in calendars, in the alignment of stars, in maps, tombs, in the very structures of their civilizations...

God, how much louder do they have to be...?

Imagine the fear that must have gripped them when the forgetting began to accomplish all of the above...all for us...for the first time in an eternal spirit's reality, the true unknown lay stretched out in front of them (knowing that they would be us) for thousands and thousands of years...with NO WAY OUT...not because there was no way out, but merely because we forgot there was a way.

We are finally beginning to remember again. We are remembering that we were never left all alone...we are remembering that there has always been a way.

Its been a long time, hasn't it...?
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Too bad Marko Rodin calls the 'central axis' (the 9) in his toroidal mathematics the 'omni-dimension' ...

RodinAerodynamics.org
[link to www.rense.com]

and after 16 years of doing my best, we still don't have a 'Foundation for Omni-Dimensional Science & Spirituality' - which was supposed to be in place by 1998 ....

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DEATH TO THE HOUSE OF ROTHSCHILD.

The one with the fused pegasus unicorn & mandala that overlays rothschild's hexagram.

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i like that post and it`s contents rockon
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Nonetheless when you arrive at a point somewhere back 6000 - 30000 years ago on our own planet the situation is significantly different from that i.e. what you appear to have at that point is the engineering and re-engineering of complex life forms being a sort of a cottage industry with numerous hands involved.

working backwards as in towards us, our golden age ending 25000 yrs ago approx then 24000 yrs approx of planetary realignment and transmutation effects as a consequence until final stabilization, within our current alignment, approx 6000 yrs ago starts to fit cool2
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Aether, it is punctuated as well as exponential. This is not only being seen (as in 'proven') in archeology/geology, but in relation to cosmology, heliospheric studies as well as recent surges (last century or so) in understanding the electrical nature of 'god'. Combine that with quantum understandings and its relation to consciousness, alignment and stabilization is aligning with mythology and spiritual componants of existence.
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every component of early civilizations--from religion to art and architecture--expressed symbolically the desire to recover and to re-live the lost Golden Age

what if the symbolism of religion, architecture, art etc. we copied, because we believed it must contain the intelligence to have formed us and our environment when in fact, what we copied was formed by our expression of that intelligence, before commencement and eventual loss of our golden age and it`s consequences to our personalities

what we reformed physically would remain "hollow" spiritually until we were aware once more and expressed again that same creative intelligence that formed it originally
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I like that aether. It resonates perfectly with other interactions we've had on this topic, and sparked my intitive side on this exact subject...

Thread: We are Not What We Once Were...and Not Yet Decided What We are...but We are Remembering
hey sickscent

“My reality is just as valid as your reality” is not universally true."

human self (memory) is maintained within our local environment

our local environment (memory of self) eternally was within an anode glow (golden age) which limited our ability to know anything about the wider universe since we could not see stars.

that environment became as it is now and we are not yet peaceful with our new local environment (memory of self)

we are not what we were and not yet decided what we are

et`s possessing the ability to reach us enjoy the comfort of memory of self within our local environment

it is hoped that humankinds requirement of sense of self is strong enough to desire contact with others whom possess matching sense of self

in anticipation of that hope, focusing humankinds attention on the ingredients of what self contains became important within disclosure
Thread: Spiritual Rapture, Dream States, Creative Insurges - Schumann Resonance and the Natural Frequencies of the Human Brain...and the Incoming (Page 11)

disclosure is awareness of self (memory information)
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My thought patterns on specific concepts that the ancients put forth, that in turn have become constructs of our reality, have changed in the last year.

Imagine, knowing your spirit while being physical, knowing what is beyond physical death, being in communion with not only your past, but others past...being in communion with the universe...no disease, no hunger, no violence, no lies, no distrust in the human condition...rather, everything about your spiritual/physical family of beings is pure...nothing missing...the veil is not only gone, it had yet to even come into existence.

Back then, energies began leaving, and the veil was coming. Some began thinking of what exactly that might entail, though they could not imagine it as it truly would become...because the veil...the forgetting...the separation had yet to make mankind fall into tragedy, trauma...fear. Imagine...fear was not even in their reality...they were connected to everything. It was the Golden Age.

As cycles spin round, spiral in form as the universe decrees, the increased energies that birthed their Golden Age - their own version of the Fluff that they resided in - began falling, spinning away from the solar system into mythology, receding into the aether behind.

We spiritual beings called humans were entering the darkness at the same rate that the Fluff fell away, falling away from knowing the universe, falling far from the comfort of God's communion...A new name took hold...The Fallen. And the process of forgetting our souls began...of being separated from the divine, of the eternal fall from being a conscious spiritual knowing being...to being utterly alone...a massive scarring took place within our collective pysche. During the falling process, when we were in the throes of forgetting what we are, we scrambled to remember what we were losing...Memories carved in stone, raised as monuments...frozen memories defying time. Some held on longer (they had yet to forget, but in their horror, they witnessed others already fallen) but knew that soon we all were going to lose contact with our souls...and so ensued massive trauma, something much worse than death, not only a tragedy to the human condition, but to our divine souls...the horror that was to come...the killing fields that would soak the world through...

They knew that when the Fluff left (the interstellar cloud, though they thought of it differently, of course) we would FORGET...so they wrote to the future...I Ching, 'religious texts', pyramids, secret knowledge, calendars, etc...someday they knew that there would come a day (the universe decrees the spinning of the spiral, after all) when a new Golden Age would surface...and just as our memory once fell away with a receding interstellar cloud, memory would rise once more, like a surging wave, an all encompassing spirit arriving on the cloud of God...

So, in attempts to tell us how to live properly, one with all, without killing/stealing/lying...without fear...they shouted from the past.

But there was a problem...They did not know how far reality would change. When going from one age of darkness, to an age of light, and vice-versa, 'reality' is different...it changes...so confusion and misunderstanding and convolusion reigned as one age living in a fading light, tried to communicate to the coming age of darkness.

But they shouted as loud as they could...on stone, on copper, vellum in sealed vase, in symbols, in writing, books, in visions, in dreams, in myths, in prophecies, on pyramids, on monoliths, in calendars, in the alignment of stars, in maps, tombs, in the very structures of their civilizations...

God, how much louder do they have to be...?

Imagine the fear that must have gripped them when the forgetting began to accomplish all of the above...all for us...for the first time in an eternal spirit's reality, the true unknown lay stretched out in front of them (knowing that they would be us) for thousands and thousands of years...with NO WAY OUT...not because there was no way out, but merely because we forgot there was a way.

We are finally beginning to remember again. We are remembering that we were never left all alone...we are remembering that there has always been a way.

Its been a long time, hasn't it...?
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feels it fits rather well sickscent cool2
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Yes, aether. This was the passage that your previous words struck a chord with:

But there was a problem...They did not know how far reality would change. When going from one age of darkness, to an age of light, and vice-versa, 'reality' is different...it changes...so confusion and misunderstanding and convolusion reigned as one age living in a fading light, tried to communicate to the coming age of darkness.
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No normal science theory is ever defended the way evolution is. What IS defended in that sort of manner are lifestyles, tenures, entrenched positions, and careers which have been built pyramid-style atop a base row which is sitting on quicksand. The people sitting ten or eleven rows of stones up don't like being told that the whole thing is unworkable.

What most people are unaware of is that the whole theory of evolution has been overwhelmingly refuted a number of times and via a number of totally unrelated arguments to such an extent that any normal science theory under the same circumstances would have been rejected and thrown out literally decades ago.

The first such disproof and the one which rightfully should have ended the debate involved fruit flies. Fruit flies breed new generations every other day so that running any sort of a decades-long experiment with fruit flies will involve more generations of them than there have ever been of anything even remotely resembling humans on our planet. Those flies were subjected to everything in the world known to cause mutations and the mutants were recombined every possible way; all they ever got were sterile freaks, and fruit flies. Several prominent scientists publicly denounced evolution at that point in time including the famous case of Richard Goldschmidt.

The failure was due to the fact that our entire living world is driven by information and the only information there ever was in the picture was that for a fruit fly. When the DNA/RNA information scheme was discovered, even if the fruit fly thing had never happened, evolution should have been discarded on the spot. But GIVEN the fact of the fruit fly experiments, somebody HAD to have thought to himself


The DNA/RNA system is an information code just like C#, Java, or C++. Information codes do not just sort of happen or appear amongst inanimate matter for no particular reason. In other words, there is no way in the world anybody should be believing in evolution 40 years after the discovery of DNA and, again, that's just one overwhelming disproof amongst a number of such. Again no legitimate science theory would ever survive such a history.

There is the question of the probabilistic odds against any sort of life forming from inanimate matter via any random sequence of events; the junk science reports we now read about "string" theory and "multiple universes" is basically motivated by a recognition of what the odds are against evolution in the one universe we actually have any evidence for.
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i like that post and it`s contents rockon
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Not a lot of time now, was shown a tri-phase approach to planetary transformation many years ago (described in Rainbow Warriors Link) - the creation of a 'Foundation for Omni-Dimensional Science & Spirituality' was phase 2.

I go to great lengths, even writing directly to Lord Jacob Rothschild in 2004 seeking help in creating said 'Foundation' - after the British Mint's word was no good back in 2001...

I could explode out of anger, not only my own; but those who provided 'information' are very angry as well ...

Maybe sometime later I say some more, maybe not.

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And then there is the Haldane dilemma, which amounts to an understanding of the time spans which would be needed to spread ANY genetic change through any group of creatures. A very simple version of the thing is all most intelligent people should need:



"Imagine a population of 100,000 apes or "proto-humans" ten million years ago which are all genetically alike other than for two with a "beneficial mutation". Imagine also that this population has the human or proto-human generation cycle time of roughly 20 years.

Imagine that the beneficial mutation in question is so good, that all 99,998 other die out immediately (from jealousy), and that the pair with the beneficial mutation has 100,000 kids and thus replenishes the herd.

Imagine that this process goes on like that for ten million years, which is more than anybody claims is involved in "human evolution". The max number of such "beneficial mutations" which could thus be substituted into the herd would be ten million divided by twenty, or 500,000 point mutations which, Walter Remine notes, is about 1/100 of one percent of the human genome, and a miniscule fraction of the 2 to 3 percent that separates us from chimpanzees, or the half of that which separates us from neanderthals".




That basically says that even given a rate of evolutionary development which is fabulously beyond anything which is possible in the real world, starting from apes, in ten million years the best you could possibly hope for would be an ape with a slightly shorter tail.

People who have carried out the math for real-world rates of substitution come up with it taking quadrillions of years for our present living world to have evolved in any fashion even if that were possible, which it isn't.

So evolution needs quadrillions of years... how much time do they (evolutionites) actually have? A very big part of the answer has been coming in lately in the form of blood, blood vessels, and raw meat turning up in dinosaur remains:

In other words, Midrashic sources and Amerind oral traditions are basically correct in describing human interaction with dinosaurs just a few thousand years ago (there is no way raw meat and blood can survive for millions of years) and the thing we've heard all our lives about dinosaurs dying out 65M years ago is a bunch of BS.

A theory which needs quadrillions of years and only has a few thousand is basically FUBAR; no reasonably well educated person should ever buy into it.

What about humans, hominids such as the Neanderthal, and the stories we keep seeing in the news about some new human ancestor of the year which is supposedly going to save evolutionism, and what about the 30,000 and 200,000 year time frames involved in those stories?

In order to be descended from something via any process resembling evolution, at some point, you have to be able to interbreed with the something. Thus the curious total lack of any real evidence of modern man ever interbreeding with Neanderthals was always viewed as a big mystery particularly since there was evidence of the two groups living in close proximity for long periods. James Shreeve described the problem in an article published in Discover magazine in the mid 90s:

"Humans love to mate. They mate all the time, by night and by day, through all the phases of the female’s reproductive cycle. Given the opportunity, humans throughout the world will mate with any other human. The barriers between races and cultures, so cruelly evident in other respects, melt away when sex is at stake. Cortés began the systematic annihilation of the Aztec people--but that did not stop him from taking an Aztec princess for his wife. Blacks have been treated with contempt by whites in America since they were first forced into slavery, but some 20 percent of the genes in a typical African American are white. Consider James Cook’s voyages in the Pacific in the eighteenth century. Cook’s men would come to some distant land, and lining the shore were all these very bizarre-looking human beings with spears, long jaws, browridges, archeologist Clive Gamble of Southampton University in England told me. God, how odd it must have seemed to them. But that didn’t stop the Cook crew from making a lot of little Cooklets.

Project this universal human behavior back into the Middle Paleolithic. When Neanderthals and modern humans came into contact in the Levant, they would have interbred, no matter how strange they might initially have seemed to each other. If their cohabitation stretched over tens of thousands of years, the fossils should show a convergence through time toward a single morphological pattern, or at least some swapping of traits back and forth.

But the evidence just isn’t there, not if the TL and ESR dates are correct. Instead the Neanderthals stay staunchly themselves. In fact, according to some recent ESR dates, the least Neanderthalish among them is also the oldest. The full Neanderthal pattern is carved deep at the Kebara cave, around 60,000 years ago. The moderns, meanwhile, arrive very early at Qafzeh and Skhul and never lose their modern aspect. Certainly, it is possible that at any moment new fossils will be revealed that conclusively demonstrate the emergence of a Neandermod lineage. From the evidence in hand, however, the most likely conclusion is that Neanderthals and modern humans were not interbreeding in the Levant...
"



And then in the late 1990s results of DNA studies of Neanderthal remains began to come in and cleared up the mystery:
Fossil DNA proves Neanderthals were not ancestors of humans
[link to www.expressindia.com]

"He said his team ran four separate tests for authenticity - checking whether other amino acids had survived, making sure the DNA sequences they found did not exist in modern humans, making sure the DNA could be replicated in their own lab and then getting other labs to duplicate their results. Comparisons with the DNA of modern humans and of apes showed the Neanderthal was about halfway between a modern human and a chimpanzee."

That's right: the Neanderthal was basically an advanced ape whose DNA was almost exactly halfway between ours and that of a chimpanzee, and we could no more interbreed with Neanderthals than we could with horses. Even the prestigeious PlosBiology system gave up on the idea (No Evidence of Neandertal mtDNA Contribution to Early Modern Humans).
[link to www.plosbiology.org]

Clearly that should have been the end of any talk about modern humans having evolved from hominids since all other hominids were significantly FURTHER removed from us THAN the neanderthal. Nonetheless evolutionites go on talking about a "common ancestor(TM) for both ourselves and Neanderthals, 500,000 years back. That of course is idiotic; it's as if somebody had discovered some reason why dogs could not be descended from wolves, and the evolutionites were to claim that therefore they (dogs) must be descended directly from fish.

But what about the time frames? We've seen that the time frames we read about for dinosaurs are totally FUBAR, what about the 50,000 and 200,000 and 500,000 year time spans you read about for supposed human ancestors? Do evolutionites have the sort of time they'd need to even be talking about hominid/human evolution?
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Gunnar Heinsohn is best/brightest category in European academia and a frequent speaker at NATO gatherings since his population youth bulge theories predict political unrest with near 100% accuracy; he's also a major player in the ongoing efforts to reconstruct Med-basin chronologies. His "Wie Alt ist das Menschengeschlect" describes the problem with the dating schemes typically associated with Neanderthal studies:


Mueller-Karpe, the first name in continental paleoanthropology, wrote thirty years ago on the two strata of homo erectus at Swanscombe/England: "A difference between the tools in the upper and in the lower stratum is not recognizable. (From a geological point of view it is uncertain if between the two strata there passed decades, centuries or millennia.)" (Handbuch der Vorgeschichte, Vol I, Munich 1966, p. 293).

The outstanding scholar never returned to this hint that in reality there may have passed ten years where the textbooks enlist one thousand years. Yet, I tried to follow this thread. I went to the stratigraphies of the Old Stone Age which usually look as follows

modern man (homo sapiens sapiens)

Neanderthal man (homo sapiens neanderthalensis)

Homo erectus (invents fire and is considered the first intelligent man).

In my book "Wie alt ist das Menschengeschlecht?" [How Ancient is Man?], 1996, 2nd edition, I focused for Neanderthal man on his best preserved stratigraphy: Combe Grenal in France. Within 4 m of debris it exhibited 55 strata dated conventionally between -90,000 and -30,000. Roughly one millennium was thus assigned to some 7 cm of debris per stratum. Close scrutiny had revealed that most strata were only used in the summer. Thus, ca. one thousand summers were assigned to each stratum. If, however, the site lay idle in winter and spring one would have expected substratification. Ideally, one would look for one thousand substrata for the one thousand summers. Yet, not even two substrata were discovered in any of the strata. They themselves were the substrata in the 4 m stratigraphy. They, thus, were not good for 60,000 but only for 55 years.

I tested this assumption with the tool count. According to the Binfords' research--done on North American Indians--each tribal adult has at least five tool kits with some eight tools in each of them. At every time 800 tools existed in a band of 20 adults. Assuming that each tool lasted an entire generation (15 female years), Combe Grenals 4,000 generations in 60,000 years should have produced some 3.2 million tools. By going closer to the actual life time of flint tools tens of millions of tools would have to be expected for Combe Grenal. Ony 19,000 (nineteen thousand) remains of tools, however, were found by the excavators.

There seems to be no way out but to cut down the age of Neanderthal man at Combe Grenal from some 60,000 to some 60 years.

I applied the stratigraphical approach to the best caves in Europe for the entire time from Erectus to the Iron Age and reached at the following tentative chronology for intelligent man:

-600 onwards Iron Age
-900 onwards Bronze Age
-1400 beginning of modern man (homo sapiens sapiens)
-1500 beginning of Neanderthal man
between -2000 and -1600 beginning of Erectus.

Since Erectus only left the two poor strata like at Swanscombe or El-Castillo/Spain, he should actually not have lasted longer than Neanderthal-may be one average life expectancy. I will now not go into the mechanism of mutation. All I want to remind you of is the undisputed sequence of interstratification and monostratification in the master stratigraphies. This allows for one solution only: Parents of the former developmental stage of man lived together with their own offspring in the same cave stratum until they died out. They were not massacred as textbooks have it:

monostrat.: only modern man's tools

interstrat.: Neanderthal man's and modern man's tools side by side

monostrat.: only Neanderthal man's tools

interstrat.: Neanderthal man's and Erectus' tools side by side

monotstrat.: only Erectus tools (deepest stratum for intelligent man)

The year figures certainly sound bewildering. Yet, so far nobody came up with any stratigraphy justifiably demanding more time than I tentatively assigned to the age of intelligent man. I always remind my critiques that one millennium is an enormous time span--more than from William the Conqueror to today's Anglo-World. To add a millenium to human history should always go together with sufficient material remains to show for it. I will not even mention the easiness with which scholars add a million years to the history of man until they made Lucy 4 million years old. The time-span-madness is the last residue of Darwinism.


Heinsohn is not putting an exact age on the Neanderthal die-out; what he IS stating is that there is no legitimate interpretation of existing evidence which would indicate that they died out any more than four or five thousand years ago and that is basically consistent with the thing about raw dinosaur meat.

That of course is nowhere remotely close to the time frames which any sort of an evolutionary scheme of modern man from hominids would require. We are left with three basic choices:

Modern man was created here from scratch, and recently.

Modern man was brought here from somewhere else in the cosmos.

Modern man was genetically re-engineered from one of the hominids, most likely the Neanderthal.


Those are your three basic choices and none of them involve evolution. Moreover the second and third choices merely amount to kicking the can a block or two down the road as far as how anything like modern man ever came into existence anywhere in the universe at all since the the same mathematical and probabilistic laws which prevent macroevolution on this planet would hold true anywhere else. The 17B years which supposedly intervene since the "Big Bang(TM)" wouldn't be enough for modern man to evolve in the universe even if that were possible which it isn't, and even if the Big Bang idea itself weren't just another bunch of BS like evolution, which it is.
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Not a lot of time now, was shown a tri-phase approach to planetary transformation many years ago (described in Rainbow Warriors Link) - the creation of a 'Foundation for Omni-Dimensional Science & Spirituality' was phase 2.

I go to great lengths, even writing directly to Lord Jacob Rothschild in 2004 seeking help in creating said 'Foundation' - after the British Mint's word was no good back in 2001...

I could explode out of anger, not only my own; but those who provided 'information' are very angry as well ...

Maybe sometime later I say some more, maybe not.

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yes, i feel that anger from those that provide information

i didn`t but i do now through you

tricky situation

i imagine

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Nonetheless when you arrive at a point somewhere back 6000 - 30000 years ago on our own planet the situation is significantly different from that i.e. what you appear to have at that point is the engineering and re-engineering of complex life forms being a sort of a cottage industry with numerous hands involved.

working backwards as in towards us, our golden age ending 25000 yrs ago approx then 24000 yrs approx of planetary realignment and transmutation effects as a consequence until final stabilization, within our current alignment, approx 6000 yrs ago starts to fit cool2
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Aether, it is punctuated as well as exponential. This is not only being seen (as in 'proven') in archeology/geology, but in relation to cosmology, heliospheric studies as well as recent surges (last century or so) in understanding the electrical nature of 'god'. Combine that with quantum understandings and its relation to consciousness, alignment and stabilization is aligning with mythology and spiritual componants of existence.
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i agree
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Yes, aether. This was the passage that your previous words struck a chord with:

But there was a problem...They did not know how far reality would change. When going from one age of darkness, to an age of light, and vice-versa, 'reality' is different...it changes...so confusion and misunderstanding and convolusion reigned as one age living in a fading light, tried to communicate to the coming age of darkness.
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i get that sickscent, i imagine they all may have got that, a collective effect