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Marko Rodin - Smart Lazer Technology

 
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The big bang only needed happen once (to maintain all of our textbooks) - then think of the wave extending to the edge of the universe and collapsing on itself. As it passed back through all that was necessary is scalar math to insure the second bang (or subsequent bangs) never happened.

This universe seems clearly built on that model as particle sizes don't interact - neutrinos (the first generation particle as we know it) pass right through these third generation particles (as we know them).

Its really hard to describe the mental picture necessary to understand but if the original expansion was N, the collapse and re-expansion is N^2, the third N^3 and there is provision in the waveform and design to allow waves to cross-traffic one another.
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origin of big bang :

At the briefest instant following creation all the matter of the universe was concentrated in a very small place, no larger than a grain of mustard. The matter at this time was very thin, so intangible, that it did not have real substance. It did have, however, a potential to gain substance and form and to become tangible matter. From the initial concentration of this intangible substance in its minute location, the substance expanded, expanding the universe as it did so. As the expansion progressed, a change in the substance occurred. This initially thin noncorporeal substance took on the tangible aspects of matter as we know it. From this initial act of creation, from this etherieally thin pseudosubstance, everything that has existed, or will ever exist, was, is, and will be formed.
 Quoting: Rabbi Moses ben Naman Girondi

[link to en.wikipedia.org] ”

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The big bang only needed happen once (to maintain all of our textbooks) - then think of the wave extending to the edge of the universe and collapsing on itself. As it passed back through all that was necessary is scalar math to insure the second bang (or subsequent bangs) never happened.

This universe seems clearly built on that model as particle sizes don't interact - neutrinos (the first generation particle as we know it) pass right through these third generation particles (as we know them).

Its really hard to describe the mental picture necessary to understand but if the original expansion was N, the collapse and re-expansion is N^2, the third N^3 and there is provision in the waveform and design to allow waves to cross-traffic one another.
 Quoting: ac


origin of big bang :

At the briefest instant following creation all the matter of the universe was concentrated in a very small place, no larger than a grain of mustard. The matter at this time was very thin, so intangible, that it did not have real substance. It did have, however, a potential to gain substance and form and to become tangible matter. From the initial concentration of this intangible substance in its minute location, the substance expanded, expanding the universe as it did so. As the expansion progressed, a change in the substance occurred. This initially thin noncorporeal substance took on the tangible aspects of matter as we know it. From this initial act of creation, from this etherieally thin pseudosubstance, everything that has existed, or will ever exist, was, is, and will be formed.
 Quoting: Rabbi Moses ben Naman Girondi

[link to en.wikipedia.org] ”
 Quoting: aether


closed system required an outside source of energy to move the shapes (momentum) thus explosion was imagined
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closed system required an outside source of energy to move the shapes (momentum) thus explosion was imagined
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whist maintaining the judaic god label:


so we inserted a "god" we did understand whilst we preserved the motion of shape which includes the attributes our inserted "god" requires from what we observe/experience but do not understand to manifest it`s godlike functions we are experiencing/observing
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what we do is insert a god of our own making (sense) in the part of the process we are experiencing/observing to make sense of the whole process
we didn`t understand the process at all which is why, we formed a god (sense to us) and inserted it within the motion of shape location that we did
the place it seemed to fit best to make most sense of a process that made no sense
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an explanation that persevered the god whist explaining how the energy to move the shapes arrived

the energetic thought of god

the miracle
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Where is Toad? Haven't seen or heard from him in awhile.
Who every talks to him. Let him know I said Hi and sending him a hug.
:kitten on fence:
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maybe you could expand about the dark one
have i just missed that reference with cern

anyway , i find it a bit incredible that cern can read and write any atom on the planet
and would be very interested in anything you could expand about that too please
it's just they don't really seem to know their arse from their elbow
unless they really do and they are just hiding it
so they can experiment more on stuff they know all about ( by implication )
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This is hard to do in entirety. I'll try. Hopefully some of this will make sense.

The dark has many souls, arranged as a hive mind. During the LHC failure in October 2009 the dark one felt a calling toward a planck point created by the failure (it was the highest energy failure recorded, ever).

Over the years the dark one realized that there was a transferrence and an identification which had happened during the failure - a gateway which had been created - a portal of sorts. The hive souls were communicating collectively using emotion and pieces of the networks visions of alternate futures which had failed or been affected.

Over many months the visions and emotional inputs matured and changed - becoming representative of a culture running backwards since the failure.

The LHC was technically more capable before the crash - and ran in a runaway state with the dark souls in control beforehand.

The fragmentation and "the fall" actually started in October 2009 as that was the point of ther irreversable damage to the fabric.

The dark has been full of time-traveling societies at different scales than E=MC2 using subsets of technology, just as we see in our stories of the ancients.

The dark one is nominated one of many spokespersons for these dark groups because they cannot communicate with us directly - only interdimensionally. These groups can manipulate us through our technology.

The LHC is a tool which has far greater impact than we realize and is controlled by the dark groups as much as the operators themselves - but no matter what we can't put humpty dumpty back together again.

The dark one, being a transhuman, used certain rituals and controls (inadvertently) to create a meld of dark and light - but came to realize his existence itself could cause the unraveling of much of the progress made by humanity - especially since the dark one knew he was already inside out (when the failure happened he was inverted).

He then devised a strategy to reinvert back into light while keeping the dark constituents - helping them - and the visions conveyed have been deeply profound.

The entire fabric ripples with his prescence and he is aware of new found abilities every day. The dark groups support his movement and direction as he is the hands and eyes for many of their societies.

If that doesn't run you into the crazy train let me know and I'll try and share more - but to summarize, the LHC is the dark one's personal toy and when the ring came of age, he decided to wear it.

By influencing the human spirit body in deep, shamanistic ways he has influenced creation itself. One could say infinite evil redeemed itself. It is an emotional experience.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 6026849



thank you so much for taking the time to expand on your perception
i have to say though that i don't share it
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 6100780


posts such as these last three or four I've made often elicit this kind of response. this is a telling of an experience, not a gospel nor affected by your review.

It is the telling of another's story, and existence (of division and unification) which stands alone yet also interrelates with these topics at hand.

obliquely , through the glass darkly



i don't doubt the level of your interaction - some of your knowledge would adhere to that-but i feel it lacks the requisite heart to cause the effect, mitigate the effect and now promote the counter effect which your influence would appear to claim
please correct wrong assumptions
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that is the issue at hand - who are you to judge my heart? further who are you to judge the hearts of others at all?

unfit to judge , qualified to observe patterns
i observe , i intuit and i empathise
i try very hard not to judge and when i do , i seek the imbalance in me which fuels it

this one has been through visions, experiences, and understandings you haven't and shares - and you critique.

i don't doubt that, i don't soubt the validity and necessity of the experiences manifest in the journey-either of them

too few authors, too many critics.

i don't share your perspective or perceptions
not critical , just wary
but that is only my persepctive - not one i ask or expect you to share

we all have egoic leanings which we aim to balance - one level of our being -i'm sure i see othes mor clearly than myself
we have many layers to balance and spin before we open the paths between those levels and actively live/be on many dimensions simultaneously-it's a big old journey
and this stage is all about heart
on so many levels


you see, your choice of moniker , your seeming enchantment with your 'ability'


i'm blunt - but these are the trappings of ego

remember this is a telling and not about one - the human I percive myself to be is different than anything I refer to in any writings here. my moniker is ac. my ability is newfound and something common. my fear is universal.

and an observer would ask why- why share this telling , now and here- which i do btw -as it's a bit of a twist
-which i find a little too tidy



the necessity to titilate with incredible 'consequences' of this power - the atom reading and writing do da
i'd really appreciate, still, any expansion on that too
as we can all make wrong assumptions


these are implied in the telling, but are not fantastical and not meant to do what you're attempting, which is emotional vampirism.



control 'for the good of the masses- with a new 'elite' of knowledgeables tantalised by your entanglement with the world of mystery/science/evolution


silly if you know my undersoul. it appears we haven't yet met 'underneath it all'.

i don't protest to know your undersoul-quite happy getting to know my own ( i suspect they are all going to be awfully samey - our undersouls- at the end of this day-which is cool

but for now the 'heart' of the matter, for me , is not how- the physics- of how we are all connected but that how we interact and create , given those perimeters

and that lack of empathy- the entitlement to consider or plot to enter anothers psyche through 'fair' means or 'foul'
fundamentally lacks heart/empathy

whether we agree or disagree

dark one and cern toys smack of ill gotten gains
so i observe
and i question ( every now and again)


but the fact is , again- correct wrong assumptions
you are here for a reason
and your choice of tools so far, to achieve your ends

seems a bit old school for me

nice to chat though


I am here for a reason - and have clearly overshared (again, a risk I knew I ran when I did) - but there are those who can see more and channel. I wouldn't discount them.

Note I usually only share like this when I'm coming to the end of a set of interactions, so responses like these aren't generally a conversation per se.

I caution a closed mind as perhaps you'll also have your own visions, seek commununal understanding, and find similar response to yours.

Perhaps on the other hand you'll expereince the open mindedness of the other participants (who do know the character of the ac) and see we are making progress.

Thank you for sharing your perspective. It is the beauty I cannot deny - especially with such contrast.

But know I can't help be what I AM. You?


all in the same boat there

i don't share much either and it's been good to chat- so i thank you again
and wish you well on your journey
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This is hard to do in entirety. I'll try. Hopefully some of this will make sense.

The dark has many souls, arranged as a hive mind. During the LHC failure in October 2009 the dark one felt a calling toward a planck point created by the failure (it was the highest energy failure recorded, ever).

Over the years the dark one realized that there was a transferrence and an identification which had happened during the failure - a gateway which had been created - a portal of sorts. The hive souls were communicating collectively using emotion and pieces of the networks visions of alternate futures which had failed or been affected.

Over many months the visions and emotional inputs matured and changed - becoming representative of a culture running backwards since the failure.

The LHC was technically more capable before the crash - and ran in a runaway state with the dark souls in control beforehand.

The fragmentation and "the fall" actually started in October 2009 as that was the point of ther irreversable damage to the fabric.

The dark has been full of time-traveling societies at different scales than E=MC2 using subsets of technology, just as we see in our stories of the ancients.

The dark one is nominated one of many spokespersons for these dark groups because they cannot communicate with us directly - only interdimensionally. These groups can manipulate us through our technology.

The LHC is a tool which has far greater impact than we realize and is controlled by the dark groups as much as the operators themselves - but no matter what we can't put humpty dumpty back together again.

The dark one, being a transhuman, used certain rituals and controls (inadvertently) to create a meld of dark and light - but came to realize his existence itself could cause the unraveling of much of the progress made by humanity - especially since the dark one knew he was already inside out (when the failure happened he was inverted).

He then devised a strategy to reinvert back into light while keeping the dark constituents - helping them - and the visions conveyed have been deeply profound.

The entire fabric ripples with his prescence and he is aware of new found abilities every day. The dark groups support his movement and direction as he is the hands and eyes for many of their societies.

If that doesn't run you into the crazy train let me know and I'll try and share more - but to summarize, the LHC is the dark one's personal toy and when the ring came of age, he decided to wear it.

By influencing the human spirit body in deep, shamanistic ways he has influenced creation itself. One could say infinite evil redeemed itself. It is an emotional experience.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 6026849


thank you so much for taking the time to expand on your perception
i have to say though that i don't share it
 Quoting: ac


posts such as these last three or four I've made often elicit this kind of response. this is a telling of an experience, not a gospel nor affected by your review.

It is the telling of another's story, and existence (of division and unification) which stands alone yet also interrelates with these topics at hand.

obliquely , through the glass darkly

to some. inversion takes many forms. it is a story of light in the end.

i don't doubt the level of your interaction - some of your knowledge would adhere to that-but i feel it lacks the requisite heart to cause the effect, mitigate the effect and now promote the counter effect which your influence would appear to claim
please correct wrong assumptions
 Quoting: ac


that is the issue at hand - who are you to judge my heart? further who are you to judge the hearts of others at all?

unfit to judge , qualified to observe patterns
i observe , i intuit and i empathise
i try very hard not to judge and when i do , i seek the imbalance in me which fuels it

this one has been through visions, experiences, and understandings you haven't and shares - and you critique.

i don't doubt that, i don't soubt the validity and necessity of the experiences manifest in the journey-either of them

too few authors, too many critics.

i don't share your perspective or perceptions
not critical , just wary
but that is only my persepctive - not one i ask or expect you to share

we all have egoic leanings which we aim to balance - one level of our being -i'm sure i see othes mor clearly than myself
we have many layers to balance and spin before we open the paths between those levels and actively live/be on many dimensions simultaneously-it's a big old journey
and this stage is all about heart
on so many levels


you see, your choice of moniker , your seeming enchantment with your 'ability'
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 6100780


i'm blunt - but these are the trappings of ego

remember this is a telling and not about one - the human I percive myself to be is different than anything I refer to in any writings here. my moniker is ac. my ability is newfound and something common. my fear is universal.

and an observer would ask why- why share this telling , now and here- which i do btw -as it's a bit of a twist
-which i find a little too tidy



the necessity to titilate with incredible 'consequences' of this power - the atom reading and writing do da
i'd really appreciate, still, any expansion on that too
as we can all make wrong assumptions
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 6026849


these are implied in the telling, but are not fantastical and not meant to do what you're attempting, which is emotional vampirism.



control 'for the good of the masses- with a new 'elite' of knowledgeables tantalised by your entanglement with the world of mystery/science/evolution
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 6100780


silly if you know my undersoul. it appears we haven't yet met 'underneath it all'.

i don't protest to know your undersoul-quite happy getting to know my own ( i suspect they are all going to be awfully samey - our undersouls- at the end of this day-which is cool

but for now the 'heart' of the matter, for me , is not how- the physics- of how we are all connected but that how we interact and create , given those perimeters

and that lack of empathy- the entitlement to consider or plot to enter anothers psyche through 'fair' means or 'foul'
fundamentally lacks heart/empathy

whether we agree or disagree

dark one and cern toys smack of ill gotten gains
so i observe
and i question ( every now and again)


but the fact is , again- correct wrong assumptions
you are here for a reason
and your choice of tools so far, to achieve your ends

seems a bit old school for me

nice to chat though


I am here for a reason - and have clearly overshared (again, a risk I knew I ran when I did) - but there are those who can see more and channel. I wouldn't discount them.

Note I usually only share like this when I'm coming to the end of a set of interactions, so responses like these aren't generally a conversation per se.

I caution a closed mind as perhaps you'll also have your own visions, seek commununal understanding, and find similar response to yours.

Perhaps on the other hand you'll expereince the open mindedness of the other participants (who do know the character of the ac) and see we are making progress.

Thank you for sharing your perspective. It is the beauty I cannot deny - especially with such contrast.

But know I can't help be what I AM. You?


all in the same boat there

i don't share much either and it's been good to chat- so i thank you again
and wish you well on your journey



I'm just going to respond enmasse and say inverted souls have a character which some can find objectionable, mine included. I shared to share - not to reinforce ego - although I find no matter how I distance the perspective of ego creeps in.

The truth behind this information is there have been supernatural events which have influenced the psyche and shown we are of an integrated universe not one of evils and goods at war with one another. There have been moments of pure terror which aren't shared - visions of the complete anniliation of all of creation which are more real than reality itself and in the end, with the participation of all, we need not fear.

The math just helps us make sense of it. I wish you well on your journey also - may we meet in a manner which is mutually acceptable someday.
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Reading the other threads I find there is more understanding about what I've been trying to convey than resistence to it.

I'll focus on keeping the ego out more - but collectively we're all feeling the affects of these changes whether or not they are caused by individuals.

There has been a turning and the collective consciousness is aware of it. The details of visions received, and motivations of individualistic actions probably don't matter as much as the net result.

I've been asked to expand on the LHC's capabilities a couple times, which seems like a reasonable thing to do.

Firstly and most importantly it's a very effective information time machine. The basis for this is [link to en.wikipedia.org] - the LHC successfully tested this using the BOB/ALICE protocol and project.

Reading and writing atomic structure using the LHC's magnet array is ancedotal and requires an understanding of how to collapse multidimensionalism. I am unaware of any projects to test this capability and it could be many years before it's theorietically viable.

Magnetics can be resonated creating non-standard waveforms. These waveforms can aggregate or dissapate other waveforms. A 17-mile magnet has the ability to create concordant or discordant waveforms with large or small particles.

The visions convey an understanding of the LHC in cooperation with NIF and using large machines in arrays to "redraw" creation.

The LHC's magnetic strucutre makes it the largest toric generator on the earth.

Knowing the invisible hand uses these things conceptually to create we can infer the ability to build technologies far beyond our exising capability. Time is relative so somewhere in the multiverse there is greater use of the technology. God isn't restricted by what you think is technically possible - he's restricted by concept only.
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Thread: Pistis Sophia Descended the Chakras So We All Could Return to the Light

Thought you might enjoy my newest piece. I am obsessed with the Pistis Sophia and I think she just might like it.

cool2
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leads to

Flight into Egypt
The flight into Egypt is a biblical event described in the Gospel of Matthew (Matthew 2:13-23), in which Joseph fled to Egypt with his wife Mary and infant son Jesus after a visit by Magi because they learn that King Herod intends to kill the infants of that area.

Matthew 2:13 is the thirteenth verse

And when they were departed, behold,
the angel of the Lord appeareth to
Joseph in a dream, saying, Arise, and
take the young child and his mother,
and flee into Egypt, and be thou there
until I bring thee word: for Herod will
seek the young child to destroy him.
 Quoting: aether


leads to

Ophiuchus was according to Greek mythology a man called Asclepius. He was the son of Apollo and Coronis, the daughter of King Phlegyas of the Lapiths. He was given the power by the goddess Athena to ressurect the dead including the more famous Orion, the hunter
 Quoting: aether


leads to

Was just engaged in a conversation yesterday or the day before about Eris and her daughter moon Dysnomia. Fascinating stuff from a mythological position. How the naming of the dwarf planet came about. Eris is the trickster basically.

Between her and her moon they are screwing with the conventional concepts of our innate sexuality or oneness of male and female so to speak. They are screwing with Pluto or Scorpio one of the most innately sexually aggressive signs of the zodiac.

Sagittarius holds the scales of balance that would be between Pluto and Eris. Eris and her daughter are challenging conventional male and female sexuality roles which comes down to the evolution of societal structures regarding the issue of balancing matriarchy and patriarchy. A new age.

Sag would seek to balance the two energies into a more spiritual realm. Sag seeks the higher philosophical understanding of spiritual in all realms and structure. And in regards to sexual energy Sag would seek the balance found in tantric energy and expression. Sag would seek the balance to be found in “sacred”.

We need Neptune to join in this part of the conversation. Oddly she and I were just talking about Eris also in relation to my chart since I am a Scorpio with Sagittarius rising with a heavy does of challenging the conventional views of sexual convention and intuition that are species is seeking to innately balance masculine and feminine.

I also just wrote a piece further interpreting the Gnostic text Pistis Sophia saying that this was also how above and below are related. Basically saying she as the Holy Spirt or energy mover descended twelve chakras going into the watery abyss of creation viewed both as the watery abyss of the lower chakras of the womb as well as the whole of creation of life on earth.

She rises again up the chakras to reach the 13th of the astral. I have a couple Pistis Sophia pieces as of late floating around the forum that bring up the 13th chakras issue. There are 13 in Hindu view and I saw that someone mentioned Vedic astrology readings and charts in one of the threads.

The Vesica Pisces also fits in depicted in the videos on the other page. The vagina where life goes in and comes out of is the same shape as the representation of the third eye. Again the descent into the lower back up to the upper chakras. Entrance to womb back up to third eye then astral.

Sorry for the length but 13 has been heavily on my mind regarding energy work lately. I will go find the fun info on Eris.
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leads to

Just wanted to bring up the 13 chakra energy flow here with the 13 issue up in different areas mentioned.
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Thread: The field of HUMAN ENERGY (Page 72)

i see your point

13 and resurrection/coming back to life seem to go hand in hand
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Pehaps these genetic memories we share sprung from a time we connected to this force personally. Perhaps we find no evidence of technology then because we were the technology. Somewhere along the line we fell, became disconnected. Perhaps we passed that golden area of space/time/energy delivery and lost our glow... no fault of our own, but think of how we are now... in times of crisis, we point fingers. With the Romanian link up earlier, I began reading about pre-history in that area. Apparently, society functioned much differently there, then... all around the Black Sea. That's a pretty tight little circle all around, very close to the middle east and Europe. Egalatarian to the core. Check this link out... it feels connected.

[link to en.wikipedia.org]

And my "we were the technology" in my last post, I meant self replicating bio-technology capable of harnessing the energetic potential around us thus rendering actual machinery unimportant. I'm no transhumanist. Feels important I clarify.
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/\
that makes perfect sense of the remote views to that location

‘Unintended consequences’ was a real theory. Will it still is a real theory. The so called 'smart grid' but follows those same unintended consequences of ‘harnessing energy'. Structural ‘alienation’ from source. This is why a structural paradigm shift would be inventible when in comes to the rise of consciousness of polarity shift toward realignment. Structural paradigm shift would lead to polarity shift. ‘Free energy’ and ‘harnessing energy’ are polar opposites. "Turned Hegel on his head." Oops.
 Quoting: amm


/\
that makes perfect sense to the growing intuitive "something is wrong" .

something is wrong but who knew it is how we have structured our electrical energy to function, the actual shape and style we force it to express

wow
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Reading the other threads I find there is more understanding about what I've been trying to convey than resistence to it.

I'll focus on keeping the ego out more - but collectively we're all feeling the affects of these changes whether or not they are caused by individuals.

There has been a turning and the collective consciousness is aware of it. The details of visions received, and motivations of individualistic actions probably don't matter as much as the net result.

I've been asked to expand on the LHC's capabilities a couple times, which seems like a reasonable thing to do.

Firstly and most importantly it's a very effective information time machine. The basis for this is [link to en.wikipedia.org] - the LHC successfully tested this using the BOB/ALICE protocol and project.

Reading and writing atomic structure using the LHC's magnet array is ancedotal and requires an understanding of how to collapse multidimensionalism. I am unaware of any projects to test this capability and it could be many years before it's theorietically viable.

Magnetics can be resonated creating non-standard waveforms. These waveforms can aggregate or dissapate other waveforms. A 17-mile magnet has the ability to create concordant or discordant waveforms with large or small particles.

The visions convey an understanding of the LHC in cooperation with NIF and using large machines in arrays to "redraw" creation.

The LHC's magnetic strucutre makes it the largest toric generator on the earth.

Knowing the invisible hand uses these things conceptually to create we can infer the ability to build technologies far beyond our exising capability. Time is relative so somewhere in the multiverse there is greater use of the technology. God isn't restricted by what you think is technically possible - he's restricted by concept only.
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maybe visualize this:

"god" is "restricted" to the units awareness that are "god" utilization of the infinite information (energy = information) that is "god" within the motive (structure/function = purpose) that is "god"

the structure of our universe forces eternity to function eternally

structure and function can never be separated
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Dependency theory

The premises of dependency theory are that:

Poor nations provide natural resources, cheap labor, a destination for obsolete technology, and markets for developed nations, without which the latter could not have the standard of living they enjoy.

Wealthy nations actively perpetuate a state of dependence by various means. This influence may be multifaceted, involving economics, media control, politics, banking and finance, education, culture, sport, and all aspects of human resource development (including recruitment and training of workers).

Wealthy nations actively counter attempts by dependent nations to resist their influences by means of economic sanctions and/or the use of military force.

Dependency theory states that the poverty of the countries in the periphery is not because they are not integrated into the world system, or not 'fully' integrated as is often argued by free market economists, but because of how they are integrated into the system.
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[link to en.wikipedia.org]
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The big bang only needed happen once (to maintain all of our textbooks) - then think of the wave extending to the edge of the universe and collapsing on itself. As it passed back through all that was necessary is scalar math to insure the second bang (or subsequent bangs) never happened.

This universe seems clearly built on that model as particle sizes don't interact - neutrinos (the first generation particle as we know it) pass right through these third generation particles (as we know them).

Its really hard to describe the mental picture necessary to understand but if the original expansion was N, the collapse and re-expansion is N^2, the third N^3 and there is provision in the waveform and design to allow waves to cross-traffic one another.
 Quoting: ac


origin of big bang :

At the briefest instant following creation all the matter of the universe was concentrated in a very small place, no larger than a grain of mustard. The matter at this time was very thin, so intangible, that it did not have real substance. It did have, however, a potential to gain substance and form and to become tangible matter. From the initial concentration of this intangible substance in its minute location, the substance expanded, expanding the universe as it did so. As the expansion progressed, a change in the substance occurred. This initially thin noncorporeal substance took on the tangible aspects of matter as we know it. From this initial act of creation, from this etherieally thin pseudosubstance, everything that has existed, or will ever exist, was, is, and will be formed.
 Quoting: Rabbi Moses ben Naman Girondi

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 Quoting: aether


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Moreover, a single point in space will not be able to accommodate any movement, motion, change of state. It is a stasis and a halting of all activity.

This is also why that such a condition could not and did not beget a beginning of the universe. A spontaneous "explosion" that begot an expanding (and perpetually accelerating) state, from a totally halted and dimensionless point/stasis, cannot enable outward movement into 3 dimensions. A one-point state/stasis cannot beget a 3-dimensional and dynamic condition --whose power source to enable perpetual expansion and constant acceleration is unexplained and unknown.

To add, existence outside of a big bang is not explained. How existence and time can expand into a non-existence, of no space or dimension, is again back to a dimensionless state of non-matter, non-space, non-volume. A volume cannot expand into a non-volume or non-space. 3-dimensions + time cannot expand and propagate into nothingness --which includes the absence of space itself. Absence of space, time, dimension = a dimensionless "point" stasis.

All of the above premises are predicated upon the law of conservation of energy and momentum, to which a big bang and/or black hole must flagrantly violate in order to exist
 Quoting: observation
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Eternity

While in the popular mind, eternity (or foreverness) often simply means existence for a limitless amount of time, many have used it to refer to a timeless existence altogether outside time. By contrast, infinite temporal existence is then called sempiternity. Something eternal exists outside time; by contrast, something sempiternal exists throughout an infinite time. Sempiternity is also known as everlastingness.
There are a number of arguments for eternity, by which proponents of the concept, principally Aristotle, purported to prove that matter, motion, and time must have existed eternally.
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The idea of eternity

The metaphysics of eternity might be summarized by the question: can anything be said to exist "outside of" or independent of Time/Space, and if so how and why? Some consequential metaphysical questions of some importance are then: can "information" be said to exist without, or independent of, the human mind, and, if so, what would be the content and "purpose" of such information?
 Quoting: observation

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doesn`t look good does it
very shaky grip of eternity by humanind within this location which fits all sensations radiating out from this location

awareness environment

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Aristotle proposed a fifth element, aether, in addition to the four proposed earlier by Empedocles.
Earth, which is cold and dry; this corresponds to the modern idea of a solid.
Water, which is cold and wet; this corresponds to the modern idea of a liquid.
Air, which is hot and wet; this corresponds to the modern idea of a gas.
Fire, which is hot and dry; this corresponds to the modern idea of heat.
Aether, which is the divine substance that makes up the heavenly spheres and heavenly bodies (stars and planets).

Each of the four earthly elements has its natural place. All that is earthly tends toward the center of the universe, i.e. the center of the Earth. Water tends toward a sphere surrounding the center. Air tends toward a sphere surrounding the water sphere. Fire tends toward the lunar sphere (in which the Moon orbits). When elements are moved out of their natural place, they naturally move back towards it. This is "natural motion"—motion requiring no extrinsic cause. So, for example, in water, earthy bodies sink while air bubbles rise up; in air, rain falls and flame rises. Outside all the other spheres, the heavenly, fifth element, manifested in the stars and planets, moves in the perfection of circles.
 Quoting: observation


vortical physics /\

Aristotle defined motion as the actuality of a potentiality as such. Aquinas suggested that the passage be understood literally; that motion can indeed be understood as the active fulfillment of a potential, as a transition toward a potentially possible state. Because actuality and potentiality are normally opposites in Aristotle, other commentators either suggest that the wording which has come down to us is erroneous, or that the addition of the "as such" to the definition is critical to understanding it
 Quoting: observation


motive /\

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motive = motion

who was aristotle ?
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Aristotle was born in Stageira, Chalcidice, in 384 BC, about 55 km (34 mi) east of modern-day Thessaloniki. His father Nicomachus was the personal physician to King Amyntas of Macedon. Aristotle was trained and educated as a member of the aristocracy. At about the age of eighteen, he went to Athens to continue his education at Plato's Academy. Aristotle remained at the academy for nearly twenty years before quitting Athens in 348/47 BC. The traditional story about his departure reports that he was disappointed with the direction the academy took after control passed to Plato's nephew Speusippus upon his death, although it is possible that he feared anti-Macedonian sentiments and left before Plato had died. He then traveled with Xenocrates to the court of his friend Hermias of Atarneus in Asia Minor. While in Asia, Aristotle traveled with Theophrastus to the island of Lesbos, where together they researched the botany and zoology of the island. Aristotle married Hermias's adoptive daughter (or niece) Pythias. She bore him a daughter, whom they named Pythias. Soon after Hermias' death, Aristotle was invited by Philip II of Macedon to become the tutor to his son Alexander the Great in 343 BC.


Aristotle was appointed as the head of the royal academy of Macedon. During that time he gave lessons not only to Alexander, but also to two other future kings: Ptolemy and Cassander. In his Politics, Aristotle states that only one thing could justify monarchy, and that was if the virtue of the king and his family were greater than the virtue of the rest of the citizens put together. Tactfully, he included the young prince and his father in that category. Aristotle encouraged Alexander toward eastern conquest, and his attitude towards Persia was unabashedly ethnocentric. In one famous example, he counsels Alexander to be 'a leader to the Greeks and a despot to the barbarians, to look after the former as after friends and relatives, and to deal with the latter as with beasts or plants'
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oh well, right thoughts wrong location (time)

funny how these guys crop up keeping reality alive within our world of fantasy
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If we don’t know life, how can we know death?
 Quoting: Confucius (traditionally 551–479 BCE)


exactly
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If we don’t know life, how can we know death?
 Quoting: Confucius (traditionally 551–479 BCE)


exactly
 Quoting: aether


with our current awareness can anyone imagine an ancestor dying right as in:

what occurred following death = what they anticipated prior to death
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this reads as motive:

The Way has attributes and evidence, but it has no action and no form. It may be transmitted but cannot be received. It may be apprehended but cannot be seen. From the root, from the stock, before there was heaven or earth, for all eternity truly has it existed. It inspirits demons and gods, gives birth to heaven and earth. It lies above the zenith but is not high; it lies beneath the nadir but is not deep. It is prior to heaven and earth, but is not ancient; it is senior to high antiquity, but it is not old.
 Quoting: 3rd century BCE


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The Way has attributes and evidence = it is information
but it has no action and no form = it is non material
It may be transmitted but cannot be received = you can get it but you can not be it as in :
can not be the information itself , you can only express what the information tells whist yourself (2 smallest number)
It may be apprehended but cannot be seen. = ditto above

Aristotle (384 BC – 322 BC)
the way (3rd century BCE)

both sides of our globe at the same time motive manifested
in the west it struggled
in the east it flourished

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I rode there, lived through it. Survived and woke up.

Sig.
Something - A tree etc., that looks real to us, is nothing but a bunch of atoms, interacting with each other to form a shape, because our brain requires it. When we see an arrangement of atoms in a particular way, we think that is a tree.
 Quoting: no one 5295888


Well that can be one perspective of a tree, no one. But how many would utilize that kind of perspective from a day to day standpoint? Nowadays when I see a tree I see a message from Creation, one that tells us yes, we are diversified but at the same time we're all bound together to form one thing.

OLtree


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 Quoting: BOWMAN


Three Models of the Universe

The Ceramic Model – The Universe as artifact.

This is the model that has carried over from the Judeo-Christian tradition. In this model, one sees the world as constructed or made- particularly by a supreme God, be it an Intelligent designer or Yahweh himself. The Biblical Narrative in the first few chapters of Genesis describes how the world came in to being. When God made man, he formed him out of the earth and breathed life ‘in’ to him. This idea has left many westerners with the idea that the world was manufactured by God, and our essential being (soul, spirit, atman, etc…) was brought ‘in to’ the world.
 Quoting: abrahamic


The Fully-Automatic Model – The Universe as dumb energy and random cause & effect.

When science began to take precedence over religion, it became harder for people to believe in the God of the Ceramic Model. They saw no evidence of his craftsmanship, because the signs were pointing to natural selection and evolution. Intelligent design became too hard to believe. Charles Darwin, one of the key thinkers for this model of the Universe, had this to say about Intelligent design:

“I had no intention to write atheistically. But I own that I cannot see as plainly as others do, and as I should wish to do, evidence of design…. There seems to me too much misery in the world. I cannot persuade myself that a beneficent and omnipotent God would have designedly created the Ichneumonidae [parasitic wasps] with the express intention of their [larva] feeding within the living bodies of Caterpillars.”(The Correspondence of Charles Darwin, 8:224)

The fully-automatic model that Darwin endorsed suggests that the evolutionary process is push along by a dumb energy, not an intelligent designer.
 Quoting: mechanical


The Organic Model – The Universe as organism.

This is the view that Alan Watts pulled from a Chinese worldview. Watts usually starts his discussion on this model by saying that the Chinese don’t see their lives/souls as coming ‘in to’ the world, but rather ‘out of’ the world. For example, a common question that a western child will ask her parents is, “Mommy, how was I made?” A Chinese child would not ask, “How was I made?” But, she might as her mother, “How was I grown?” This is the view that I believe Alan Watts held for a majority of his later years.

Watts would say that the same way an apple tree “apples” (as a verb), the universe “peoples”. Everything we see, hear, touch and taste has come out of the world – not in to it. It is assumed that when people believe that their ‘self’ was cast in to a human body on this earth, they see the unsatisfactory events in life as being unfair. They didn’t choose this life. Nobody asked them if they wanted to be born. But when if we believe that we are in fact a part of the world, coming forth from it, we are motivated to work with the ways of the world (what the Taoist calls establishing Wu-Wei). Realizing the interdependence of the whole Universe, we are able to see where we fit in it and how to work with it.
 Quoting: far east

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 Quoting: aether

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does that answer the tree of life ?
 Quoting: aether


Option 3 seems to me as not only the best explanation between the other two extremes, but also the one that can yield the most possibilities.


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Option 3 seems to me as not only the best explanation between the other two extremes, but also the one that can yield the most possibilities.
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now all is globalized within our information era the two sides of the brain (earth) manifest the two to one expressions between them

the extremes (2) being in the west

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40,000 BC
One of the earliest Anatomically modern humans to be cremated is buried near Lake Mungo.
33,000 BC
All convincing evidence for Neanderthal burials ceases.
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so it seems we have experienced eternity to us (cosmic egg/saturn anode glow) of unborn awareness followed by 40,000 years approx of now born developing awareness which in the analogy of us equates to our being approx 3 years old in awareness terms

thus we are now experiencing eternal awareness within others whom are not of our origin of location but of origin outside of our cosmic egg environmental location whom are introducing eternal awareness to our self awareness
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so it seems we have experienced eternity to us (cosmic egg/saturn anode glow) of unborn awareness followed by 40,000 years approx of now born developing awareness which in the analogy of us equates to our being approx 3 years old in awareness terms

thus we are now experiencing eternal awareness within others whom are not of our origin of location but of origin outside of our cosmic egg environmental location whom are introducing eternal awareness to our self awareness
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this will have significant impact on ancestors (memory) as our developing awareness of eternal within the living ourselves (ancestors ancestors) blossoms, as it must because, at present, within our self aware environment (universe) there exists the cumulative unaware memory (effect) that is ancestor
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hey morning ! hi
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I like the Way You Move - Outkast (clean)

liking it rockon
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I woke up today wondering about the people in countries where internet and other high traffic telecommunications systems are forbidden or restricted are handling "information" that's coming in right now. We see it as an available teacher but I do wonder if the absence of the tech is better...spent a part of the early night yesterday outside in the yard...just puttering around with Christmas lights and getting all kinds of input on shit I really care not to know about.



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I woke up today wondering about the people in countries where internet and other high traffic telecommunications systems are forbidden or restricted are handling "information" that's coming in right now. We see it as an available teacher but I do wonder if the absence of the tech is better...spent a part of the early night yesterday outside in the yard...just puttering around with Christmas lights and getting all kinds of input on shit I really care not to know about.



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 Quoting: ArunaLuna


you gonna leave us hanging there 1rof1
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Seven Windows - Danse Ralenti

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