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what`s even "funnier" is

remote

Mum said "they" do not bring wisdom...they come to wisdom. They are attracted to wisdom...yea..like light attracts light...their light bodies are attracted by wisdom. So, they come to wisdom. Thats why we hold the key. We are that wisdom...because of the present awareness of knowledge. So Mum says we are key to them. They have only knowledge of awareness of knowledge while they lived...not the knowledge that outlived them. So...only knowledge when they were alive and lived are they aware of. Mum said we have little to learn from them....but that they had much to learn from us. (they need our schooling)...

This is not history repeating itself......this is history in the making! Mum said forget history of the past it is our history now we are telling.(reminds me of the ole rewriting history thing)hehe...lol

So...they come to learn from us.

Mum says they are wise, but only as wise as awareness of knowledge is known. Mum says alive knowledge marks their tme of death.....

have a good evening....hugs to everybodyhf
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feels like intermediary between two personality "types" whom are related but have yet to meet

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feedback will resolve it
as it always does

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And then there is the Haldane dilemma, which amounts to an understanding of the time spans which would be needed to spread ANY genetic change through any group of creatures. A very simple version of the thing is all most intelligent people should need:



"Imagine a population of 100,000 apes or "proto-humans" ten million years ago which are all genetically alike other than for two with a "beneficial mutation". Imagine also that this population has the human or proto-human generation cycle time of roughly 20 years.

Imagine that the beneficial mutation in question is so good, that all 99,998 other die out immediately (from jealousy), and that the pair with the beneficial mutation has 100,000 kids and thus replenishes the herd.

Imagine that this process goes on like that for ten million years, which is more than anybody claims is involved in "human evolution". The max number of such "beneficial mutations" which could thus be substituted into the herd would be ten million divided by twenty, or 500,000 point mutations which, Walter Remine notes, is about 1/100 of one percent of the human genome, and a miniscule fraction of the 2 to 3 percent that separates us from chimpanzees, or the half of that which separates us from neanderthals".




That basically says that even given a rate of evolutionary development which is fabulously beyond anything which is possible in the real world, starting from apes, in ten million years the best you could possibly hope for would be an ape with a slightly shorter tail.

People who have carried out the math for real-world rates of substitution come up with it taking quadrillions of years for our present living world to have evolved in any fashion even if that were possible, which it isn't.

So evolution needs quadrillions of years... how much time do they (evolutionites) actually have? A very big part of the answer has been coming in lately in the form of blood, blood vessels, and raw meat turning up in dinosaur remains:

In other words, Midrashic sources and Amerind oral traditions are basically correct in describing human interaction with dinosaurs just a few thousand years ago (there is no way raw meat and blood can survive for millions of years) and the thing we've heard all our lives about dinosaurs dying out 65M years ago is a bunch of BS.

A theory which needs quadrillions of years and only has a few thousand is basically FUBAR; no reasonably well educated person should ever buy into it.

What about humans, hominids such as the Neanderthal, and the stories we keep seeing in the news about some new human ancestor of the year which is supposedly going to save evolutionism, and what about the 30,000 and 200,000 year time frames involved in those stories?

In order to be descended from something via any process resembling evolution, at some point, you have to be able to interbreed with the something. Thus the curious total lack of any real evidence of modern man ever interbreeding with Neanderthals was always viewed as a big mystery particularly since there was evidence of the two groups living in close proximity for long periods. James Shreeve described the problem in an article published in Discover magazine in the mid 90s:

"Humans love to mate. They mate all the time, by night and by day, through all the phases of the female’s reproductive cycle. Given the opportunity, humans throughout the world will mate with any other human. The barriers between races and cultures, so cruelly evident in other respects, melt away when sex is at stake. Cortés began the systematic annihilation of the Aztec people--but that did not stop him from taking an Aztec princess for his wife. Blacks have been treated with contempt by whites in America since they were first forced into slavery, but some 20 percent of the genes in a typical African American are white. Consider James Cook’s voyages in the Pacific in the eighteenth century. Cook’s men would come to some distant land, and lining the shore were all these very bizarre-looking human beings with spears, long jaws, browridges, archeologist Clive Gamble of Southampton University in England told me. God, how odd it must have seemed to them. But that didn’t stop the Cook crew from making a lot of little Cooklets.

Project this universal human behavior back into the Middle Paleolithic. When Neanderthals and modern humans came into contact in the Levant, they would have interbred, no matter how strange they might initially have seemed to each other. If their cohabitation stretched over tens of thousands of years, the fossils should show a convergence through time toward a single morphological pattern, or at least some swapping of traits back and forth.

But the evidence just isn’t there, not if the TL and ESR dates are correct. Instead the Neanderthals stay staunchly themselves. In fact, according to some recent ESR dates, the least Neanderthalish among them is also the oldest. The full Neanderthal pattern is carved deep at the Kebara cave, around 60,000 years ago. The moderns, meanwhile, arrive very early at Qafzeh and Skhul and never lose their modern aspect. Certainly, it is possible that at any moment new fossils will be revealed that conclusively demonstrate the emergence of a Neandermod lineage. From the evidence in hand, however, the most likely conclusion is that Neanderthals and modern humans were not interbreeding in the Levant...
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And then in the late 1990s results of DNA studies of Neanderthal remains began to come in and cleared up the mystery:
Fossil DNA proves Neanderthals were not ancestors of humans
[link to www.expressindia.com]

"He said his team ran four separate tests for authenticity - checking whether other amino acids had survived, making sure the DNA sequences they found did not exist in modern humans, making sure the DNA could be replicated in their own lab and then getting other labs to duplicate their results. Comparisons with the DNA of modern humans and of apes showed the Neanderthal was about halfway between a modern human and a chimpanzee."

That's right: the Neanderthal was basically an advanced ape whose DNA was almost exactly halfway between ours and that of a chimpanzee, and we could no more interbreed with Neanderthals than we could with horses. Even the prestigeious PlosBiology system gave up on the idea (No Evidence of Neandertal mtDNA Contribution to Early Modern Humans).
[link to www.plosbiology.org]

Clearly that should have been the end of any talk about modern humans having evolved from hominids since all other hominids were significantly FURTHER removed from us THAN the neanderthal. Nonetheless evolutionites go on talking about a "common ancestor(TM) for both ourselves and Neanderthals, 500,000 years back. That of course is idiotic; it's as if somebody had discovered some reason why dogs could not be descended from wolves, and the evolutionites were to claim that therefore they (dogs) must be descended directly from fish.

But what about the time frames? We've seen that the time frames we read about for dinosaurs are totally FUBAR, what about the 50,000 and 200,000 and 500,000 year time spans you read about for supposed human ancestors? Do evolutionites have the sort of time they'd need to even be talking about hominid/human evolution?
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Gunnar Heinsohn is best/brightest category in European academia and a frequent speaker at NATO gatherings since his population youth bulge theories predict political unrest with near 100% accuracy; he's also a major player in the ongoing efforts to reconstruct Med-basin chronologies. His "Wie Alt ist das Menschengeschlect" describes the problem with the dating schemes typically associated with Neanderthal studies:


Mueller-Karpe, the first name in continental paleoanthropology, wrote thirty years ago on the two strata of homo erectus at Swanscombe/England: "A difference between the tools in the upper and in the lower stratum is not recognizable. (From a geological point of view it is uncertain if between the two strata there passed decades, centuries or millennia.)" (Handbuch der Vorgeschichte, Vol I, Munich 1966, p. 293).

The outstanding scholar never returned to this hint that in reality there may have passed ten years where the textbooks enlist one thousand years. Yet, I tried to follow this thread. I went to the stratigraphies of the Old Stone Age which usually look as follows

modern man (homo sapiens sapiens)

Neanderthal man (homo sapiens neanderthalensis)

Homo erectus (invents fire and is considered the first intelligent man).

In my book "Wie alt ist das Menschengeschlecht?" [How Ancient is Man?], 1996, 2nd edition, I focused for Neanderthal man on his best preserved stratigraphy: Combe Grenal in France. Within 4 m of debris it exhibited 55 strata dated conventionally between -90,000 and -30,000. Roughly one millennium was thus assigned to some 7 cm of debris per stratum. Close scrutiny had revealed that most strata were only used in the summer. Thus, ca. one thousand summers were assigned to each stratum. If, however, the site lay idle in winter and spring one would have expected substratification. Ideally, one would look for one thousand substrata for the one thousand summers. Yet, not even two substrata were discovered in any of the strata. They themselves were the substrata in the 4 m stratigraphy. They, thus, were not good for 60,000 but only for 55 years.

I tested this assumption with the tool count. According to the Binfords' research--done on North American Indians--each tribal adult has at least five tool kits with some eight tools in each of them. At every time 800 tools existed in a band of 20 adults. Assuming that each tool lasted an entire generation (15 female years), Combe Grenals 4,000 generations in 60,000 years should have produced some 3.2 million tools. By going closer to the actual life time of flint tools tens of millions of tools would have to be expected for Combe Grenal. Ony 19,000 (nineteen thousand) remains of tools, however, were found by the excavators.

There seems to be no way out but to cut down the age of Neanderthal man at Combe Grenal from some 60,000 to some 60 years.

I applied the stratigraphical approach to the best caves in Europe for the entire time from Erectus to the Iron Age and reached at the following tentative chronology for intelligent man:

-600 onwards Iron Age
-900 onwards Bronze Age
-1400 beginning of modern man (homo sapiens sapiens)
-1500 beginning of Neanderthal man
between -2000 and -1600 beginning of Erectus.

Since Erectus only left the two poor strata like at Swanscombe or El-Castillo/Spain, he should actually not have lasted longer than Neanderthal-may be one average life expectancy. I will now not go into the mechanism of mutation. All I want to remind you of is the undisputed sequence of interstratification and monostratification in the master stratigraphies. This allows for one solution only: Parents of the former developmental stage of man lived together with their own offspring in the same cave stratum until they died out. They were not massacred as textbooks have it:

monostrat.: only modern man's tools

interstrat.: Neanderthal man's and modern man's tools side by side

monostrat.: only Neanderthal man's tools

interstrat.: Neanderthal man's and Erectus' tools side by side

monotstrat.: only Erectus tools (deepest stratum for intelligent man)

The year figures certainly sound bewildering. Yet, so far nobody came up with any stratigraphy justifiably demanding more time than I tentatively assigned to the age of intelligent man. I always remind my critiques that one millennium is an enormous time span--more than from William the Conqueror to today's Anglo-World. To add a millenium to human history should always go together with sufficient material remains to show for it. I will not even mention the easiness with which scholars add a million years to the history of man until they made Lucy 4 million years old. The time-span-madness is the last residue of Darwinism.


Heinsohn is not putting an exact age on the Neanderthal die-out; what he IS stating is that there is no legitimate interpretation of existing evidence which would indicate that they died out any more than four or five thousand years ago and that is basically consistent with the thing about raw dinosaur meat.

That of course is nowhere remotely close to the time frames which any sort of an evolutionary scheme of modern man from hominids would require. We are left with three basic choices:

Modern man was created here from scratch, and recently.

Modern man was brought here from somewhere else in the cosmos.

Modern man was genetically re-engineered from one of the hominids, most likely the Neanderthal.


Those are your three basic choices and none of them involve evolution. Moreover the second and third choices merely amount to kicking the can a block or two down the road as far as how anything like modern man ever came into existence anywhere in the universe at all since the the same mathematical and probabilistic laws which prevent macroevolution on this planet would hold true anywhere else. The 17B years which supposedly intervene since the "Big Bang(TM)" wouldn't be enough for modern man to evolve in the universe even if that were possible which it isn't, and even if the Big Bang idea itself weren't just another bunch of BS like evolution, which it is.
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i get it, the origin of us, as in, why and how are we as we are

We are left with three basic choices:

Modern man was created here from scratch, and recently.

Modern man was brought here from somewhere else in the cosmos.

Modern man was genetically re-engineered from one of the hominids, most likely the Neanderthal.
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page 10

Shea tested the hypothesis that there were differences in behavioural variability between earlier and later Homo sapiens using stone tool evidence dating to between 250,000- 6000 years ago in eastern Africa.

His analysis shows no single behavioural revolution in our species' evolutionary history. Instead, the evidence shows wide variability in Homo sapiens toolmaking strategies from the earliest times onwards.
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page 17


"intelligence has to arise FIRST and create biology"

i have never thought about it

now we are thinking about it i am sure awareness will arise rockon

Additional thought

what we are dictates all we were as in, does it matter once awareness of what we are satisfies all we desire to be, eternally


i wonder
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i get it, the origin of us, as in, why and how are we as we are

We are left with three basic choices:

Modern man was created here from scratch, and recently.

Modern man was brought here from somewhere else in the cosmos.

Modern man was genetically re-engineered from one of the hominids, most likely the Neanderthal.
 Quoting: Science

page 10

Shea tested the hypothesis that there were differences in behavioural variability between earlier and later Homo sapiens using stone tool evidence dating to between 250,000- 6000 years ago in eastern Africa.

His analysis shows no single behavioural revolution in our species' evolutionary history. Instead, the evidence shows wide variability in Homo sapiens toolmaking strategies from the earliest times onwards.
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page 17


"intelligence has to arise FIRST and create biology"

i have never thought about it

now we are thinking about it i am sure awareness will arise rockon

Additional thought

what we are dictates all we were as in, does it matter once awareness of what we are satisfies all we desire to be, eternally


i wonder
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eternity psemeni, that`s why i have never thought about it

in the west we recently divided time hence erased eternal from our awareness and applied it to our universe (big bang)

using divided we calculate within the west that our galaxy takes 250 million years to rotate once

earth, either as part of the what was a brown dwarf saturn or within it`s present suns solar system, like our galaxy it is within , is unlikely to form for less than at least a few rotations of the whole galaxy

you may feel that the divided time involved allows ample time for us to have travelled here ourselves, so long ago there is no memory of it accessible via our collective memory and, because all things spiral, there is no access to that awareness within the field containing that memory, long left behind in a location our galaxy will never return to

more than that, wherever we go back within eternity, humans of our structure and function/behaviour were always somewhere within our eternal universe

nothing knows what formed us as there is no formation of a beginning within the structure of our universe, a structure which forces eternal to function eternally

their appears no memory that we traveled off our planet or that we ever possessed awareness of the structure and function of our environment therefore, when we naturally desired to ^die", there is no indication of whether we retained memory/personality or returned to no thing as in, our energy/information returned to the field
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there is considerable awareness that we did travel to what we call our planet and once arrived, we never imagined leaving
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Additional thought

what we are dictates all we were as in, does it matter once awareness of what we are satisfies all we desire to be, eternally


i wonder
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Crustaceans were blue blooded nothing more or nothing less. It has to do with evolution. Land or water based seeds of evolution in the petri dish. People interpreting this as Reptilian shit are just buying into tptb bullshit. Mollusk, blue blooded, show the spiral pattern. Look O- negative was probably the first blood type. Less oxygen in the blood. Iron based blood must have come later. Just two different phases of evolution or perhaps two different times of electrical charges to start the churn. Electrical charge hit water. Seeds of Atlantan line. Electric charge hit land. Seeds of Egyptian line. Just processing my batshit crazy here aloud to help bring this shit down to earth and out of the realm of the esoteric.
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Same here, the neanderthal connection resonates with me as seperate venue of evolution. Not better, not worse, just different. I feel there were several types of humans when this grand experiment kicked off. We don't admit it now because we've all done awful shit to each other and we're afraid if it all comes out we'll be blamed for the sins of our fathers. I think it relates to the collective grief you see, Muse... In fact, I'll say I KNOW it does as the second I typed that I felt the truth of it run up my spine and light up that part of me that connects. We have to grieve, forgive then let it go or we'll never move on. There's two paths at this point, either make us all alike or make it ok for us to be different... I don't think any of us want the type of "unity" the first choice would mean.
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If we bypass the phase of collective grief of paradise of the garden lost into the next shift we set ourselves up for transhumanism. Set ourselves up to alienate ourselves from organic. We set ourselves up to continue to genetically modify ourselves. Make sure you plant native tomato seeds! We are our own self-fulling prophecies of alienation and genetic modification. Cosmic joke is on us as well it should be. I am proud I ate that fucking apple!
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feels "thick" with emotion
shudder
but
i don`t know
i feel no choice but to emotionally experience through it to the other side, is the expression
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i don`t get the shudder now
i notice this topic i avoided always but now it is okay

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We are left with three basic choices:

Modern man was created here from scratch, and recently.

Modern man was brought here from somewhere else in the cosmos.

Modern man was genetically re-engineered from one of the hominids, most likely the Neanderthal.
 Quoting: science


For the first time, Tufts University biologists have reported that bioelectrical signals are necessary for normal head and facial formation in an organism and have captured that process in a time-lapse video that reveals never-before-seen patterns of visible bioelectrical signals outlining where eyes, nose, mouth, and other features will appear in an embryonic tadpole.
 Quoting: science


The Tufts biologists found that, before the face of a tadpole develops, bioelectrical signals (ion flux) cause groups of cells to form patterns marked by different membrane voltage and pH levels. When stained with a reporter dye, hyperpolarized (negatively charged) areas shine brightly, while other areas appear darker, creating an "electric face."

"When a frog embryo is just developing, before it gets a face, a pattern for that face lights up on the surface of the embryo,"
 Quoting: science


[link to www.physorg.com]

According to author Luc Bürgin, "In laboratory experiments the researchers there Dr. Guido Ebner and Heinz Schürch exposed cereal seeds and fish eggs to an 'electrostatic field' – in other words, to a high voltage field, in which no current flows. Unexpectedly primeval organisms grew out of these seeds and eggs: a fern that no botanist was able to identify; primeval corn with up to twelve ears per stalk; wheat that was ready to be harvested in just four to six weeks. And giant trout, extinct in Europe for 130 years, with so-called salmon hooks. It was as if these organisms accessed their own genetic memories on command in the electric field, a phenomenon, which the English biochemist, Rupert Sheldrake, for instance believes is possible."
 Quoting: science


Perhaps these observations can all be tied together. Sheldrake's "morphic fields," protein jitter, gamete alteration that leads to speciation, and the electric charges in cells might all be manifestations of plasma's emergent properties. At some time in the past, as these pages have repeatedly emphasized, Earth's electrical properties were substantially altered when other highly charged objects or ionic clouds passed close to our plasmasphere.

Intense electric arcs swept across the surface of the Earth, creating powerful electromagnetic fields that could have transmuted biological organisms in the same way that they changed the atomic structure of elements and minerals. The famous Miller-Urey experiment demonstrated that inorganic compounds exposed to electric currents can be altered to form organic chemicals like amino acids.
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if you read that story again you get the personality of the blue`s
if they are golden age us quite likely, within the intense electrical environment they were experiencing over centuries there would come a point when, to some of them, what was born was us
the us suitable for the environment as it was becoming

the story says that our golden age personalities were of the nature to preserve life and recognize the meaning of life's messages

thus they would have reared us as their own until we were of age to look after ourselves then left us to the environment that was forming or had formed for us

this satisfies the 0 evidence of "nethanderals" and us mating or interacting as two types, we did not, and begins to answer the collective origin story of our adam and eve beginning

the first ones of us
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if you read that story again you get the personality of the blue`s
if they are golden age us quite likely, within the intense electrical environment they were experiencing over centuries there would come a point when, to some of them, what was born was us
the us suitable for the environment as it was becoming

the story says that our golden age personalities were of the nature to preserve life and recognize the meaning of life's messages

thus they would have reared us as their own until we were of age to look after ourselves then left us to the environment that was forming or had formed for us

this satisfies the 0 evidence of "nethanderals" and us mating or interacting as two types, we did not, and begins to answer the collective origin story of our adam and eve beginning

the first ones of us
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in fact the story is an analogy of what occurred if read that way
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if you read that story again you get the personality of the blue`s
if they are golden age us quite likely, within the intense electrical environment they were experiencing over centuries there would come a point when, to some of them, what was born was us
the us suitable for the environment as it was becoming

the story says that our golden age personalities were of the nature to preserve life and recognize the meaning of life's messages

thus they would have reared us as their own until we were of age to look after ourselves then left us to the environment that was forming or had formed for us

this satisfies the 0 evidence of "nethanderals" and us mating or interacting as two types, we did not, and begins to answer the collective origin story of our adam and eve beginning

the first ones of us
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in fact the story is an analogy of what occurred if read that way
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i detect this is the most protected (secret) aspect of disclosure
the one topic above all others that institutions struggle not to explain
not because of the explanation it`self
but because of all the explanations they believed before this one
this one does not fit our politcs of god
although as i write i detect it does
awww
good
yes
walk through the fear
love is what you hear

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We are left with three basic choices:

Modern man was created here from scratch, and recently.

Modern man was brought here from somewhere else in the cosmos.

Modern man was genetically re-engineered from one of the hominids, most likely the Neanderthal.
 Quoting: science


For the first time, Tufts University biologists have reported that bioelectrical signals are necessary for normal head and facial formation in an organism and have captured that process in a time-lapse video that reveals never-before-seen patterns of visible bioelectrical signals outlining where eyes, nose, mouth, and other features will appear in an embryonic tadpole.
 Quoting: science


The Tufts biologists found that, before the face of a tadpole develops, bioelectrical signals (ion flux) cause groups of cells to form patterns marked by different membrane voltage and pH levels. When stained with a reporter dye, hyperpolarized (negatively charged) areas shine brightly, while other areas appear darker, creating an "electric face."

"When a frog embryo is just developing, before it gets a face, a pattern for that face lights up on the surface of the embryo,"
 Quoting: science


[link to www.physorg.com]

According to author Luc Bürgin, "In laboratory experiments the researchers there Dr. Guido Ebner and Heinz Schürch exposed cereal seeds and fish eggs to an 'electrostatic field' – in other words, to a high voltage field, in which no current flows. Unexpectedly primeval organisms grew out of these seeds and eggs: a fern that no botanist was able to identify; primeval corn with up to twelve ears per stalk; wheat that was ready to be harvested in just four to six weeks. And giant trout, extinct in Europe for 130 years, with so-called salmon hooks. It was as if these organisms accessed their own genetic memories on command in the electric field, a phenomenon, which the English biochemist, Rupert Sheldrake, for instance believes is possible."
 Quoting: science


Perhaps these observations can all be tied together. Sheldrake's "morphic fields," protein jitter, gamete alteration that leads to speciation, and the electric charges in cells might all be manifestations of plasma's emergent properties. At some time in the past, as these pages have repeatedly emphasized, Earth's electrical properties were substantially altered when other highly charged objects or ionic clouds passed close to our plasmasphere.

Intense electric arcs swept across the surface of the Earth, creating powerful electromagnetic fields that could have transmuted biological organisms in the same way that they changed the atomic structure of elements and minerals. The famous Miller-Urey experiment demonstrated that inorganic compounds exposed to electric currents can be altered to form organic chemicals like amino acids.
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[link to www.thunderbolts.info]
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I share your opinion that this has something to do with morphic fields and I wonder how it relates to the genetic mechanism: fields really might control genetic expression.
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This really hit the nail on the head. How easy is it for chromatid to be pushed and shoved by electrical forces, and thus presenting particular genes to the surface where they can be easily expressed. And then we will be on the search for what changes the electric field and in particular the acupuncture meridians and kundalini.
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And my "we were the technology" in my last post, I meant self replicating bio-technology capable of harnessing the energetic potential around us thus rendering actual machinery unimportant. I'm no transhumanist. Feels important I clarify.
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The Bioelectric Cell
Every living cell has a membrane potential (of about -70mV), with the inside of the cell being negative relative to its external surface. The cell membrane potential is strongly linked to the cell membrane transport mechanisms in that much of the material that passes across the membrane is ionic (charged particles), thus if the movement of charged particles changes, then it will influence the membrane potential. Conversely, if the membrane potential changes, it will influence the movement of ions.

Relative to the size of the cell, the membrane potential is massive. The membrane is, on average 7-10 nm thick (a nanometre is a thousandth of a millionth of a metre). The
equivalent voltage is somewhere in the order of 10 million volts per metre (which is reasonably impressive!).
 Quoting: science


Lightning Bolts within Cells

Using novel voltage-sensitive nanoparticles, researchers have found electric fields inside cells as strong as those produced in lightning bolts. Previously, it has only been possible to measure electric fields across cell membranes, not within the main bulk of cells. It's not clear what causes these strong fields or what they might mean. But now that it's possible to measure them, researchers hope to learn about disease states such as cancer by studying these electric fields.

University of Michigan researchers led by chemistry professor Raoul Kopelman encapsulated voltage-sensitive dyes in polymer spheres just 30 nanometers in diameter. When illuminated with blue light, the voltage-sensitive dyes emit a mixture of red and green light; the exact frequency of light emitted is influenced by the strength of local electric fields, allowing the researchers to measure those fields. Testing these nanoparticles in the internal fluid of brain-cancer cells, Kopelman found electric fields as strong as 15 million volts per meter, perhaps five times stronger than the field found in a lightning bolt.
 Quoting: science

[link to www.biotele.com]
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fuck all this fits:



it is all about membrane
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you can follow the information carrier, electricity "through" the membranes be it our suns heliosphere, earths magnetosphere or our body cell membrane, same process throughout our universe
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Yes, it seems to be reoccurring in this subject as well as other places. As is the 'total simplicity contained within extreme complexity' theme (for me at least lol)
 Quoting: GSF


because all things manifest outwards and all information is coming at us

before this time our imagination always intuitively knew this but it was not our time to know how or why

talking on skype about the fox video and listening to others experiences of observing foxes do that and other animals do the same or similar, they prompted the consideration that now we are thinking differently, we are looking for different causes of effects we experience/observe

the good news is, having explored all other permutations, the invisible causes of visible effects are all that is left to discover
 Quoting: aether


i imagine
 Quoting: aether 1187276


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we don`t get many earthquakes but last night we did:

Cornwall hit by earthquake
4th Dec 2011

The 2.2-magnitude quake hit Bodmin at 2.40am and lasted just a few seconds, the British Geological Society said.
There were no reports of damage but the tremor could be felt in Bodmin, Liskeard, St Austell, Padstow, Camborne, Wadebridge and Callington.
Sue Dibble, from St Tudy, told the BBC: "It was very loud, like a whooshing and the house and bed were shaking. I thought I'd imagined it."
 Quoting: observation

[link to www.telegraph.co.uk]

now

The Bodmin Moor Zodiac is a twelve-mile circle of astrological signs made from roads, footpaths, field boundaries, china clay works, water channels and other geographical features.
 Quoting: observation


Major Leys running over the Bodmin Moor Zodiac.

The Michael-Mary Line intersects at the Cheesewring with St Michael's Mount, Glastonbury Tor & Avebury & is connected to Beltane and Llughnasad (Lammas)
The Solstice Line drawn here connects Rough Tor road with Cheesewring, Brown Willy with Tintagel Island (birthplace of solar King Arthur), and is the line of sunrise/sunset at Summer Solstice.
 Quoting: observation

[link to www.nigelayers.com]

my point is i am on that ley line and utilize it naturally (without thought)
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this was last night

i had a really funny to me dream last night
the part i remember was at the end, being aware a lot had occurred before i became aware i was an adult pupil in a school of 5 year old`s
before i went into my class i was knew the head teacher wanted to see me so i went to their office and was told "see me after lessons"
that didn`t feel great as i returned to my class and sat at my desk, out of scale cos i am an adult and it was child`s desk

the lesson work was sums and i realized that i could not do these sums which was nuts cos i knew i always could and they were basic simple, but not to me any more

i asked the 5 year old in the next desk for help then it struck me that because i was utilizing other senses, i need not care about/utilize sums

at that point i realize i am in a dream and need not go through any of this emotion within a school environment and instantly awoke

it was light and morning get up time
 Quoting: aether


[link to www.godlikeproductions.com]
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"On July 1, 2011 at 7:53 am GMT the NEW (moon) solar eclipse will be born, evolve and grow for 1226.05 years."

i never knew that
thanks cheer

Statistics for Solar Eclipses of Saros 156

Solar eclipses of Saros 156 all occur at the Moon’s descending node and the Moon moves northward with each eclipse. The series will begin with a partial eclipse in the southern hemisphere on 2011 Jul 01. The series will end with a partial eclipse in the northern hemisphere on 3237 Jul 14. The total duration of Saros series 156 is 1226.05 years. In summary:

First Eclipse = 2011 Jul 01 08:39:30

Last Eclipse = 3237 Jul 14 10:57:04

Duration of Saros 156 = 1226.05 Years

[link to eclipse.gsfc.nasa.gov]
 Quoting: aether


so what do we know
we know this:

i can get the moon effects
it charges it`self up at full moon when it entangles in our magnetosphere

The Moon and the Magnetotail
“Earth’s magnetotail extends well beyond the orbit of the moon and, once a month, the moon orbits through it,” says Tim Stubbs, a University of Maryland scientist working at the Goddard Space Flight Center. “This can have consequences ranging from lunar ‘dust storms’ to electrostatic discharges.

[link to www.nasa.gov]

which in itself can exaggerate earthquake/weather effects monthly especially as earth has increased it`s and our atmospheres basic volume of charge cos of fluffy

so when the moon is new sitting in the middle of our solar wind directly between us and our sun at new moon , it dissipates the charge it got when full moon via our suns solar wind (radiation) straight back to earth again affecting weather in our exaggerated charge state on occasions

my point is what does piers believe is different with this new moon to cause what he says unless it coincides with a high activity sun
 Quoting: aether


good info aether, thx. i copied this to my japanEq thread:) and about piers.. well, he's been wrong before, a lot..
 Quoting: OpenEnded


thumbs

and what is interesting is this


check out the electron flux guys
[link to www.swpc.noaa.gov]

them are some very odd fluctuations
 Quoting: NiNzrez


That is "whack", and ACE is a mess!
[link to www.solarham.com]
 Quoting: tomasgod1


the pattern (energy/information) this alignment is forcing our sun to transmit remembering this alignment is


"On July 1, 2011 at 7:53 am GMT the NEW (moon) solar eclipse will be born, evolve and grow for 1226.05 years."

i never knew that
thanks cheer

Statistics for Solar Eclipses of Saros 156

Solar eclipses of Saros 156 all occur at the Moon’s descending node and the Moon moves northward with each eclipse. The series will begin with a partial eclipse in the southern hemisphere on 2011 Jul 01. The series will end with a partial eclipse in the northern hemisphere on 3237 Jul 14. The total duration of Saros series 156 is 1226.05 years. In summary:

First Eclipse = 2011 Jul 01 08:39:30

Last Eclipse = 3237 Jul 14 10:57:04

Duration of Saros 156 = 1226.05 Years

[link to eclipse.gsfc.nasa.gov]
 Quoting: aether


and our sun has

in our month of 3 eclipses our sun signals 3

telsa, marko rodin and others discovered that 3,6,and 9 in nature are the pathways that our non material dimension utilizes to form and sustain our material dimension

energy = information

i imagine we witnessing the commencement of affects which many of us will experience emotionally

one way or another
 Quoting: aether


personally i like the feel of the energetic signal/information and the impression it impresses upon me
 Quoting: aether


caused this:

The hair-raising truth about the Cornish tsunami triggered by under-sea earthquake

Read more: The hair-raising truth about the Cornish tsunami triggered by under-sea earthquake

Read more: The hair raising truth Cornish- tsunami triggered sea-earthquake

This week, parts of the Cornish coastline were hit by what appears to have been a mini-tsunami. The wave was of no great height, but it was still substantial enough to suck the sea out for 150 feet or more, before surging back in to drench the causeway linking St Michael’s Mount to the mainland near Penzance, and giving tourists a soaking.
The wave rolled up the estuaries and rivers from Mounts Bay in the West to Plymouth in the east, sending small boats rolling on their keels.
If that isn’t strange enough, witnesses said it was preceded by a surge of static electricity. ‘People’s hair stood on end,’ said a National Trust guide on the Mount.
 Quoting: science

[link to www.dailymail.co.uk]

we know st micheal`s mount is:

St. Michael's Mount is a rocky island 5 miles south of Penzance in Cornwall, England. Surmounted by an fortress-like abbey dedicated to St. Michael the Archangel, this atmospheric sacred site has much in common with its namesake across the channel, Mont-St-Michel in France.
St. Michael's Mount is also a prominent site on the major ley line known as St. Michael's Line. Ley lines are hypothetical straight lines between ancient sites that are believed to carry special energy and power. St. Michael's Line runs northeast across Britain from St. Michael's Mount, through sites such as Glastonbury Tor (with its St. Michael's Tower), Avebury, and Bury St. Edmunds.
 Quoting: history

[link to www.sacred-destinations.com]

The St. Michael's Ley, England:
This is probably the most famous ley-line in the world. It runs across England from the tip of Cornwall to the Eastern tip of Norfolk on the Norfolk/Suffolk border, passing Glastonbury Tor (St. Michaels church), and Avebury before continuing onwards to the east coast of England. It passes through numerous significant sites either named after St. Michael or St. George, both dragon slaying saints. The line follows the path of the sun on the 8th of May (The spring festival of St. Michel).
 Quoting: history


which is the "touch stone of this:


"A great scientific instrument lies sprawled over the entire surface of the globe. At some period - perhaps it was over 4,000 years ago - almost every corner of the world was visited by a group of men who came with a particular task to accomplish. With the help of some remarkable power, by which they could cut and raise enormous blocks of stone ,these men erected vast astronomical instruments, circles of erect pillars, PYRAMIDS, underground tunnels, cyclopean alignments, whose course from horizon to horizon was marked by stones, mounds, and earthwork.
 Quoting: history

John Mitchell's "The View Over Atlantis", p69:
[link to www.despatch.cth.com.au]

so we know upon this day the system is on in a manner it was not before rockon
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tricky huh 1rof1

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which is why this occurred last night:

thanks hugh , now i got visuals
feels like more than one hole, they take in energy, which is now observed (i`ll find link) which i believe is phrased as the collapsing plasma filaments but what i am getting is they radiate pro rata to their intake
so if we got a lot of plasma going down the holes we will be experiencing greater radiation coming out
 Quoting: aether


yes is defiantly caused by plasma intake into the holes and the radiated energy coming out feels denser and fast
yes high velocity
 Quoting: aether


but i don`t know what information (effect) is within this type of radiation
we will see
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you can follow the information carrier, electricity "through" the membranes be it our suns heliosphere, earths magnetosphere or our body cell membrane, same process throughout our universe
 Quoting: aether
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I think I get what you are saying. Like I don’t get the physics so I “feel them” out. Kinda actually listen to the emotion “behind” what you and sickscents and toad et all get so excited about a math thing...lol Then I watch vis like this, remember vaguely the “energy” going on the days or times they were posted. Then like today I also individualize it. Look at the overhead views of the images as to what a site plan would like like for a really cool commercial building (tangible structure). The people interacting in “the structure” would probably never be able to see the site view but hopefully they would feel the energy of the intent of the designer. Then to design like that I would have to take on massive amounts of structural engineering math...or trust the intent of a hired out engineer. That is the scary part for me....lol
 Quoting: amm


exactly amm, take number (mathematics) and me
number does not exist in nature, we (humans) and others formed it to keep track of moving shape , not dissimilar to our language , labels/symbols
we and 0 others formed the moving shape, we formed the labels/symbols to following the moving shape and anticipate it

so i never use number nor can i, if i start with number but i do see what number mean when they label a sequence of shape, for the reason you said, i see/experience the movement of shape they identify/label because i get the information contained within the sequence of shape the labels show thus the labels are what i utilize to tell what i see, i use what tradition says should be used labels/symbols (language) for description
for me no sequence of labels/symbols has meaning, it is the motion of shape hence information within the motion the labels/symbols identify that is real to me
 Quoting: aether


so often if i write, i utilize labels/symbols (language) to label the motion of shape that already exists
i choose the symbols that fit what is there to fit them onto and in doing so utilize symbols that best convey the information that is contained within the motion of shape

 Quoting: aether


superluminal
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Is NASA telling us something here between the lines? From the article I linked:

"The emissions are paired, going in opposite directions, creating a structure something like giant megaphones set back-to-back."
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clever beau and you are right

'Mach c'? Scientists observe sound traveling faster than the speed of light

Jan 2007

For the first time, scientists have experimentally demonstrated that sound pulses can travel at velocities faster than the speed of light, c. William Robertson’s team from Middle Tennessee State University also showed that the group velocity of sound waves can become infinite, and even negative.
 Quoting: observation

[link to www.physorg.com]


negative = hear it before it is formed LOL
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get the information before it forms
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so our blues built the round shape megalith structures and our non earth origin built the point stone block monuments both for the same purpose

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hahah, that`s fucked
i have never heard of the bodmin zodiac before today so i google and choose the first entry and am staring at my birth sigh!!!!!!

BODMIN MOOR ZODIAC

The Sign of Leo
Many sightings of the Beast of Bodmin Moor say that it is lion-like, this could be a thought form emanation from the Leo Zodiac outline, which in turn may indicate the boundaries of a Mesolithic (and later Celtic) tribal area.
 Quoting: observation


but my reason for looking:

The Meaning of the Bodmin Moor Zodiac

The scientific establishment has trouble with map dowsing but it is just a particular example of a phenomenon that is universal. Religious relics, religious symbols, paintings, statues, even pieces of music are gateways to the energy of the ideas they represent. All form is energy held into a place. Energy constantly radiates outward creating copies of itself - images in the eyes of those who see.....................
 Quoting: observation

[link to bodminmoorzodiac.blogspot.com]

is it a coincidence that the blue event occurred in synchronicity to our universe energizing an ancient zodiac
a zodiac on the global ley system

why last night?
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 Quoting: A Muse Me


laugh

Can you make me ONE with everything!

OMG...tears...the fucking Dali Lama...ROFL
 Quoting: ArunaLuna


Wasn’t that a hoot! I laughed through the whole thing. The Dali Lama’s laugh was pretty precious though.
The term derives from the Ancient Greek words, meta, meaning beyond or after, and noia, meaning perception or understanding or mind.
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Fringe, if you are around, could you tell us what the Cardinal Cross or Aries Point as I have read it means from an astrological perspective. I thought of you bunches yesterday. Glad to see you post the DNA videos. I might bring them over here later. They are interesting indeed.
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