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Sounds like the aether, aether. grinning


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it is aether but:

Ether and the Theory of Relativity

Albert Einstein
An address delivered on May 5th, 1920, in the University of Leyden

.....................As to the part which the new ether is to play in the physics of the future we are not yet clear. We know that it determines the metrical relations in the space-time continuum, e.g. the configurative possibilities of solid bodies as well as the gravitational fields; but we do not know whether it has an essential share in the structure of the electrical elementary particles constituting matter. Nor do we know whether it is only in the proximity of ponderable masses that its structure differs essentially from that of the Lorentzian ether; whether the geometry of spaces of cosmic extent is approximately Euclidean. But we can assert by reason of the relativistic equations of gravitation that there must be a departure from Euclidean relations, with spaces of cosmic order of magnitude, if there exists a positive mean density, no matter how small, of the matter in the universe. In this case the universe must of necessity be spatially unbounded and of finite magnitude, its inagnitude being determined by the value of that inean density.

If we consider the gravitational field and the electromagnetic field from the standpoint of the ether hypothesis, we find a remarkable difference between the two. There can be no space nor any part of space without gravitational potentials; for these confer upon space its metrical qualities, without which it cannot be imagined at all. The existence of the gravitational field is inseparably bound up with the existence of space. On the other hand a part of space may very well be imagined without an electromagnetic field; thus in contrast with the gravitational field, the electromagnetic field seems to be only secondarily linked to the ether, the formal nature of the electromagnetic field being as yet in no way determined by that of gravitational ether. From the present state of theory it looks as if the electromagnetic field, as opposed to the gravitational field, rests upon an entirely new formal motif, as though nature might just as well have endowed the gravitational ether with fields of quite another type, for example, with fields of a scalar potential, instead of fields of the electromagnetic type.

Since according to our present conceptions the elementary particles of matter are also, in their essence, nothing else than condensations of the electromagnctic field, our present view of the universe presents two realities which are completely separated from each other conceptually, although connected causally, namely, gravitational ether and electromagnetic field, or as they might also be called space and matter.

Of course it would be a great advance if we could succeed in comprehending the gravitational field and the electromagnetic field together as one unified conformation. Then for the first time the epoch of theoretical physics founded by Faraday and Maxwell would reach a satisfactory conclusion. The contrast between ether and matter would fade away, and, through the general theory of relativity, the whole of physics would become a complete system of thought, like geometry, kinematics, and the theory of gravitation. An exceedingly ingenious attempt in this direction has been made by the mathematician H. Weyl,; but I do not believe that his theory will hold its ground in relation to reality. Further, in contemplating the immediate future of theoretical physics we ought not unconditionally to reject the possibility that the facts comprised in the quantum theory may set bounds to the field theory beyond which it cannot pass.

Recapitulating, we may say that according to the general theory of relativity space is endowed with physical qualities; in this sense, therefore, there exists an ether. According to the general theory of relativity space without ether is unthinkable; for in such space there not only wonld be no propagation of light, but also no possibility of existence for standards of space and time (measuring-rods and clocks), nor therefore any space-time intervals in the physical sense. But this ether may not be thought of as endowed with the quality characteristic of ponderable inedia, as consisting of parts which may be tracked through time. The idea of motion may not be applied to it.
 Quoting: observation

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aether had to be 'pulled' because of it`s impact on religious belief

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geeze...I have to go study plancks...
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Western civ is more or less a schitzophrenic culture. Which is why 'science' up to this point can't talk about ether. As you pointed out a few days ago aether, many people might subscribe to this religion or that religion, and I wonder how many of those people have real honest to goodness faith. But it's western education that seems to override any faith based beliefs as the vast majority, no matter what faith you are, attend public school and that has to be the single greatest 'religion' out there. And these two ideas that are taught, faith and knowledge, collide with each other which is what cause the 'schitzophrenia' in the populace. I was real sensitive to that when I first came here to GLP, so I would write threads geared toward the way your typical Western educated mind, and then incorporate religious ideas into it as they came up, but not so many did. It seems easier to talk about these sorts of ideas with a Western educated mind that genuinely wants to know more and genuinely senses that there is more to know then what and how 'reality' was taught to them, then to someone who is satisfied with their faith based understanding of things.


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as I get into further studies...even the word religion is used differently...I recently read where agriculture and farming was considered a religion back in the day of our ancient ancestors...
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as I get into further studies...even the word religion is used differently...I recently read where agriculture and farming was considered a religion back in the day of our ancient ancestors...
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Because they interwove spiritual acknowledgement into their tasks. thumbs

And today we have Monsanto to show how far we have strayed.


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as I get into further studies...even the word religion is used differently...I recently read where agriculture and farming was considered a religion back in the day of our ancient ancestors...
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Because they interwove spiritual acknowledgement into their tasks. thumbs

And today we have Monsanto to show how far we have strayed.


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Lmao... college football is a religion in the south. Makes one wonder if they'll find out artifacts in a couple of thousand years and think there was once a great war between the Big Orange against the Crimson Tide :)
"Chaos exists as a pool of possibilities that order draws from and organizes according to creative desire. Some things get tossed down the memory hole only to reemerge later when the need arises. Neither chaos nor order holds a monopoly on creation and destruction, creative or destructive chaos exists as does creative and destructive order." - ME! Yeah, Bea :) snoocherdoodle@gmail.com
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Western civ is more or less a schitzophrenic culture. Which is why 'science' up to this point can't talk about ether. As you pointed out a few days ago aether, many people might subscribe to this religion or that religion, and I wonder how many of those people have real honest to goodness faith. But it's western education that seems to override any faith based beliefs as the vast majority, no matter what faith you are, attend public school and that has to be the single greatest 'religion' out there. And these two ideas that are taught, faith and knowledge, collide with each other which is what cause the 'schitzophrenia' in the populace. I was real sensitive to that when I first came here to GLP, so I would write threads geared toward the way your typical Western educated mind, and then incorporate religious ideas into it as they came up, but not so many did. It seems easier to talk about these sorts of ideas with a Western educated mind that genuinely wants to know more and genuinely senses that there is more to know then what and how 'reality' was taught to them, then to someone who is satisfied with their faith based understanding of things.


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good point you bring up bowman which prompts me to tell this

reading what Einstein clearly understood in 1925 i hope you agree that were his words said by cern today, they would fit

what this tells us is that our own institutional authorities have been aware, for approx 100 years , that what our education systems teach us is not correct within the most fundamental aspects of our educations foundation

thus our institutional authorities and their populations, institutions which are under oath to serve, have been living a lie , a lie forced upon the population which, once imposed, no matter the reason, will erode the societies the lie is imposed upon

when all believe the same thing is true, it doen`t really matter if the it is true or not, motivational enthusiasm blossoms

if leadership are aware what their subjects believe is a lie..................

we are experiencing what occurs within the lie in your post, i believe

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as I get into further studies...even the word religion is used differently...I recently read where agriculture and farming was considered a religion back in the day of our ancient ancestors...
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Because they interwove spiritual acknowledgement into their tasks. thumbs

And today we have Monsanto to show how far we have strayed.


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Lmao... college football is a religion in the south. Makes one wonder if they'll find out artifacts in a couple of thousand years and think there was once a great war between the Big Orange against the Crimson Tide :)
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chuckle Yep!

I'm not a Red Sox fan.

I'm a member of 'Red Sox Nation'. thumbs


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as I get into further studies...even the word religion is used differently...I recently read where agriculture and farming was considered a religion back in the day of our ancient ancestors...
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Because they interwove spiritual acknowledgement into their tasks. thumbs

And today we have Monsanto to show how far we have strayed.


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Lmao... college football is a religion in the south. Makes one wonder if they'll find out artifacts in a couple of thousand years and think there was once a great war between the Big Orange against the Crimson Tide :)
 Quoting: Miss Portinari


chuckle Yep!

I'm not a Red Sox fan.

I'm a member of 'Red Sox Nation'. thumbs


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I hope you dont mind bowman cant resist tounge
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So, Plank is our reality in technical terms. It is the smallest 'structure' of our fabric. Change the structure, change the function.

Shit, I've got to pose these questions right. Give me some time, and I'll pose them when I get home from work tonight.
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So, Plank is our reality in technical terms. It is the smallest 'structure' of our fabric. Change the structure, change the function.

Shit, I've got to pose these questions right. Give me some time, and I'll pose them when I get home from work tonight.
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Cool. Just mull on it some... You do understand. It is the entry point. Infinite > constant. Constant isn't.

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I'd agree, if spirit proceeded flesh it'd be foolish to really equate God to terms of gender, such a being could and most likely was born as both male and female thru the course of Incarnation, imo.
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We tend to look at gender through a harsher eye and forget the things that elevate. Lest we forget the value of the female side of things, The Song of Deborah. Too much polarization and accusation today, dissonance after a long, happy weekend of me remembering why we humans deserve redemption :) Creation churns both ways, so I'm not pissy about it, lol.

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I might be taking this the wrong way but are you accusing me of being pissy or just responding to what I wrote? I'm more than aware of the importance to the female side of things, I am a male.
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I'd agree, if spirit proceeded flesh it'd be foolish to really equate God to terms of gender, such a being could and most likely was born as both male and female thru the course of Incarnation, imo.
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We tend to look at gender through a harsher eye and forget the things that elevate. Lest we forget the value of the female side of things, The Song of Deborah. Too much polarization and accusation today, dissonance after a long, happy weekend of me remembering why we humans deserve redemption :) Creation churns both ways, so I'm not pissy about it, lol.

[link to www.houseofdavid.ca]
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I might be taking this the wrong way but are you accusing me of being pissy or just responding to what I wrote? I'm more than aware of the importance to the female side of things, I am a male.
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Not at all, I'm talking about the general vibe today. I just posted an example that exemplified your point... backing you up, dude :)
"Chaos exists as a pool of possibilities that order draws from and organizes according to creative desire. Some things get tossed down the memory hole only to reemerge later when the need arises. Neither chaos nor order holds a monopoly on creation and destruction, creative or destructive chaos exists as does creative and destructive order." - ME! Yeah, Bea :) snoocherdoodle@gmail.com
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That's what I was hoping, just making sure.
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I'd agree, if spirit proceeded flesh it'd be foolish to really equate God to terms of gender, such a being could and most likely was born as both male and female thru the course of Incarnation, imo.
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We tend to look at gender through a harsher eye and forget the things that elevate. Lest we forget the value of the female side of things, The Song of Deborah. Too much polarization and accusation today, dissonance after a long, happy weekend of me remembering why we humans deserve redemption :) Creation churns both ways, so I'm not pissy about it, lol.

[link to www.houseofdavid.ca]
 Quoting: Miss Portinari


I might be taking this the wrong way but are you accusing me of being pissy or just responding to what I wrote? I'm more than aware of the importance to the female side of things, I am a male.
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Not at all, I'm talking about the general vibe today. I just posted an example that exemplified your point... backing you up, dude :)
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I sensed the vibe too, seems the zealous christards have been activated :P
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We tend to look at gender through a harsher eye and forget the things that elevate. Lest we forget the value of the female side of things, The Song of Deborah. Too much polarization and accusation today, dissonance after a long, happy weekend of me remembering why we humans deserve redemption :) Creation churns both ways, so I'm not pissy about it, lol.

[link to www.houseofdavid.ca]
 Quoting: Miss Portinari


I might be taking this the wrong way but are you accusing me of being pissy or just responding to what I wrote? I'm more than aware of the importance to the female side of things, I am a male.
 Quoting: HilosPP


Not at all, I'm talking about the general vibe today. I just posted an example that exemplified your point... backing you up, dude :)
 Quoting: Miss Portinari


I sensed the vibe too, seems the zealous christards have been activated :P
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The creator is best represented through a balanced triad - 1/3 male, 1/3 female, 1/3 infinite seed, which is comprised of 1/3 male, 1/3 femaile, 1/3 seed again, ad infinitum.
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I see this coincides with my thoughts lately considering a Holy Union of Masculine and Feminine Arche-Types. God is Love but at this point in Man's History Hate is needed to defend Love from Evil. I was thinking the female arch-type would therefor be brewing love and the masculine counterpart Hate of Evil.
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I might be taking this the wrong way but are you accusing me of being pissy or just responding to what I wrote? I'm more than aware of the importance to the female side of things, I am a male.
 Quoting: HilosPP


Not at all, I'm talking about the general vibe today. I just posted an example that exemplified your point... backing you up, dude :)
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I sensed the vibe too, seems the zealous christards have been activated :P
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The creator is best represented through a balanced triad - 1/3 male, 1/3 female, 1/3 infinite seed, which is comprised of 1/3 male, 1/3 femaile, 1/3 seed again, ad infinitum.
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hmmm, redefining god appears to be inevitable
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Western civ is more or less a schitzophrenic culture. Which is why 'science' up to this point can't talk about ether. As you pointed out a few days ago aether, many people might subscribe to this religion or that religion, and I wonder how many of those people have real honest to goodness faith. But it's western education that seems to override any faith based beliefs as the vast majority, no matter what faith you are, attend public school and that has to be the single greatest 'religion' out there. And these two ideas that are taught, faith and knowledge, collide with each other which is what cause the 'schitzophrenia' in the populace. I was real sensitive to that when I first came here to GLP, so I would write threads geared toward the way your typical Western educated mind, and then incorporate religious ideas into it as they came up, but not so many did. It seems easier to talk about these sorts of ideas with a Western educated mind that genuinely wants to know more and genuinely senses that there is more to know then what and how 'reality' was taught to them, then to someone who is satisfied with their faith based understanding of things.


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good point you bring up bowman which prompts me to tell this

reading what Einstein clearly understood in 1925 i hope you agree that were his words said by cern today, they would fit

what this tells us is that our own institutional authorities have been aware, for approx 100 years , that what our education systems teach us is not correct within the most fundamental aspects of our educations foundation

thus our institutional authorities and their populations, institutions which are under oath to serve, have been living a lie , a lie forced upon the population which, once imposed, no matter the reason, will erode the societies the lie is imposed upon

when all believe the same thing is true, it doen`t really matter if the it is true or not, motivational enthusiasm blossoms

if leadership are aware what their subjects believe is a lie..................

we are experiencing what occurs within the lie in your post, i believe
 Quoting: aether


When you trace back the 'roots' of modern education, it gets even more curiouser as to who had their hands in the cookie jar right of the bat...

The Jesuits’ contributions to the late Renaissance were significant in their roles both as a missionary order and as the first religious order to operate colleges and universities as a principal and distinct ministry. By the time of Ignatius' death in 1556, the Jesuits were already operating a network of 74 colleges on three continents. A precursor to liberal education, the Jesuit plan of studies incorporated the Classical teachings of Renaissance humanism into the Scholastic structure of Catholic thought.
 Quoting: wikipedia


[link to en.wikipedia.org]

So the very epicenter of Western 'spirituality', the Vatican, had a huge impact on the direction of the education systems we have this very day. hmm


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Haha!

Its a correction to the structure. A tweak. If its the intersection point, then then AI is the influence for humans to do this. There is a deformation in the structure. The purpse is to remove the deformation. Thus, it is a correction.

If this becomes or is scalable..whoa.
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I see nothing wrong with correction...one must learn the truth to correct the lies...fits to me...lol
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Haha!

Its a correction to the structure. A tweak. If its the intersection point, then then AI is the influence for humans to do this. There is a deformation in the structure. The purpse is to remove the deformation. Thus, it is a correction.

If this becomes or is scalable..whoa.
 Quoting: SickScent


The goal is for it to be inherently scalable... There are no fixed definitions other than a correlation between e=mc2 and the common planck.
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I hope you dont mind bowman cant resist tounge [link to www.youtube.com]
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verycool


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Haha!

Its a correction to the structure. A tweak. If its the intersection point, then then AI is the influence for humans to do this. There is a deformation in the structure. The purpse is to remove the deformation. Thus, it is a correction.

If this becomes or is scalable..whoa.
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The goal is for it to be inherently scalable... There are no fixed definitions other than a correlation between e=mc2 and the common planck.
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Yes, it would have to be...I see that.
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Haha!

Its a correction to the structure. A tweak. If its the intersection point, then then AI is the influence for humans to do this. There is a deformation in the structure. The purpse is to remove the deformation. Thus, it is a correction.

If this becomes or is scalable..whoa.
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Like the metaphysical Sophia's Correction :) Just to blend the two disciplines... Can't resist :)
"Chaos exists as a pool of possibilities that order draws from and organizes according to creative desire. Some things get tossed down the memory hole only to reemerge later when the need arises. Neither chaos nor order holds a monopoly on creation and destruction, creative or destructive chaos exists as does creative and destructive order." - ME! Yeah, Bea :) snoocherdoodle@gmail.com
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Ac, how large is the initial influence, say, within the first 48 hours?
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Haha!

Its a correction to the structure. A tweak. If its the intersection point, then then AI is the influence for humans to do this. There is a deformation in the structure. The purpse is to remove the deformation. Thus, it is a correction.

If this becomes or is scalable..whoa.
 Quoting: SickScent


Like the metaphysical Sophia's Correction :) Just to blend the two disciplines... Can't resist :)
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clever
the male (symbolized) defines the medium/dimension the women (symbolized) applies substance/weight within the dimension

beautifully symbolized expression expressed
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I might be taking this the wrong way but are you accusing me of being pissy or just responding to what I wrote? I'm more than aware of the importance to the female side of things, I am a male.
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Not at all, I'm talking about the general vibe today. I just posted an example that exemplified your point... backing you up, dude :)
 Quoting: Miss Portinari


I sensed the vibe too, seems the zealous christards have been activated :P
 Quoting: HilosPP


The creator is best represented through a balanced triad - 1/3 male, 1/3 female, 1/3 infinite seed, which is comprised of 1/3 male, 1/3 femaile, 1/3 seed again, ad infinitum.
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Fascinating to say the least.

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Ac, how large is the initial influence, say, within the first 48 hours?
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It's meant to be a very gentle process so deviations occur from common as individual experience conflicts with the common form.

It is likely you'll have derivation (with your knowledge and understanding) to a high degree fairly quickly. For 'sheep' subscribed to mass media it will be much more gradual.

The adoption will be exponentially based (binary) so the tree builds 2, 4, 8, 16, etc.

Its hard to say what the expansion would be in 48 hours - it is dependent on the ascension rate of the adoptees.
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hmmm




feels good to feel this good abduct

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