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Marko Rodin - Smart Lazer Technology

 
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(following death)... "if a future embryo shows up with the same receptors which i had on my cell when i was alive that individual will be downloading the same broadcast"
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I can't see that video...but this is what the shared field feels like...downloading the same broadcast...which seems is what allows for the effects (telepathic whatever connection) we share. It appears there really is something to the dna that allows for more clarity in certain transmission/reception relationships between fields (a persons energy field that emitts photon light etc...)

It's not a merging of field persay because it's not the same as occupying the same space kind of thing but...huh...
Interesting...what else does the video show?
 Quoting: ArunaLuna


Aaaaand we're back....

Thread: The field of HUMAN ENERGY (Page 28)
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what the video tells is a human receives it`s information (function as a human) from it`s environment and that each human is different in structure thus it each expresses it`s function differently
these differences are focused within our micro information receiving structures thus the differences we express are our personality, we are each a different "self" despite the fact we are all the same shape and of similar general appearance and bodily functions
the video tells when we die, if an embryo arrives with the same micro information receptors we possessed when alive we would live again possessing the same self (memory/personality) because the source of our "self" is not generated within our body, it is gained from our environments signals into our body

on the topic of shared fields the video confirms if you meet a person with enough similar receptors that you are prompted to form "bond" with them , their other receptors that are not in a geometric design of sameness to yours will transfer to you, via the "bond effect", information that your receptors do not receive
the same will occur for them
thus a "boosting" effect will be experienced by the influx of new information (emotional intuition) to each of you thus forming/experiencing an "enlightening" emotional experience for both parties

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Ugh...nope not for me.
I'm completely OUT of this one...
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what are you replying to? If you are replying to my post on the report, it is only that. I posted it showing that it has detected some of the same things we have discussed before. About how our thoughts and will effect things. If we are all thinking doom then that what we will probably get. And I have always felt there would be much loss of life. I need to make an effort to change that thought, or at least at this point I'm thinking I do. Why? because if there is any truth in this, I don't want to doom myself....does that make any sense?
 Quoting: WF 7852021


No...it's not that...you're actually one of very few who I think even understand me sometimes. My post was more to myself is all.
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Until the past few months, these connections some DNA shares with each other was the cause of great confusion in sensations and emotions for me. I believe much Light on such matters being shed.
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Yes the Inner discord a person carries with them that emits itself into the aether . Still affects the whole. It's Indra's net .
I look at it like this ... personal point of view of course.
A person has to learn to control their thought life instead of letting it control them. There in falls the wisdom
"know thyself"
In this day and age that also means think for yourself.
Not what you have been indoctrinated with.
One of the greatest tools used against mankind is ignorance.
Crime against humanity witholding important knowledge that would have most certainly took humanity in a different direction.
Humanity is angry and frustrated it knows for the most part and is waking up to it more that it has been hoodwinked.
 Quoting: fringe

This video fits to this statement for me
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If it were not for My Life's Lessons I would not be Who I am today. "Thank You"

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Breaking the Illusion of Limitation

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what the video tells is a human receives it`s information (function as a human) from it`s environment and that each human is different in structure thus it each expresses it`s function differently
these differences are focused within our micro information receiving structures thus the differences we express are our personality, we are each a different "self" despite the fact we are all the same shape and of similar general appearance and bodily functions
the video tells when we die, if an embryo arrives with the same micro information receptors we possessed when alive we would live again possessing the same self (memory/personality) because the source of our "self" is not generated within our body, it is gained from our environments signals into our body

on the topic of shared fields the video confirms if you meet a person with enough similar receptors that you are prompted to form "bond" with them , their other receptors that are not in a geometric design of sameness to yours will transfer to you, via the "bond effect", information that your receptors do not receive
the same will occur for them
thus a "boosting" effect will be experienced by the influx of new information (emotionalism intuition) to each of you thus forming/experiencing an "enlightening" emotional experience for both parties
 Quoting: aether


That's why we move forward with people who feel good and withdraw from people who don't.
There's a certain level to which interaction is beneficial as far as information is concerned and the "feel good" requirement is in essence a non issue.

But if you look at christ consciousness level interaction it appears there's a certain degree of "feel good" required.
Whether or not our receptors change (at a dna level) during this time (some sort of evolutional ascention thing) I'm not sure...

Motive for illuminati and all secret occult doctrine to remain secret was to keep the purity? Ensuring certain initiates retained a level of understanding and what...respect for/understanding of the information in order to force/assist a physical/dna level change? I don't know if that was origin intent and later was defiled and made evil...but the foundational message of most religions regarding communication with love...it's not something that can be faked.
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Until the past few months, these connections some DNA shares with each other was the cause of great confusion in sensations and emotions for me. I believe much Light on such matters being shed.
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Me too...
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what the video tells is a human receives it`s information (function as a human) from it`s environment and that each human is different in structure thus it each expresses it`s function differently
these differences are focused within our micro information receiving structures thus the differences we express are our personality, we are each a different "self" despite the fact we are all the same shape and of similar general appearance and bodily functions
the video tells when we die, if an embryo arrives with the same micro information receptors we possessed when alive we would live again possessing the same self (memory/personality) because the source of our "self" is not generated within our body, it is gained from our environments signals into our body

on the topic of shared fields the video confirms if you meet a person with enough similar receptors that you are prompted to form "bond" with them , their other receptors that are not in a geometric design of sameness to yours will transfer to you, via the "bond effect", information that your receptors do not receive
the same will occur for them
thus a "boosting" effect will be experienced by the influx of new information (emotionalism intuition) to each of you thus forming/experiencing an "enlightening" emotional experience for both parties
 Quoting: aether


That's why we move forward with people who feel good and withdraw from people who don't.
There's a certain level to which interaction is beneficial as far as information is concerned and the "feel good" requirement is in essence a non issue.

But if you look at christ consciousness level interaction it appears there's a certain degree of "feel good" required.
Whether or not our receptors change (at a dna level) during this time (some sort of evolutional ascention thing) I'm not sure...

Motive for illuminati and all secret occult doctrine to remain secret was to keep the purity? Ensuring certain initiates retained a level of understanding and what...respect for/understanding of the information in order to force/assist a physical/dna level change? I don't know if that was origin intent and later was defiled and made evil...but the foundational message of most religions regarding communication with love...it's not something that can be faked.
 Quoting: ArunaLuna


"christ consciousness" is a human who`s geometrically formed receptors translate our environments information in a manner that effects all others whom are in direct contact or hear/see the words they tell in a fashion that intuitively makes sense, thus prompting the desire to within others to express what the christ conscious human brings to their attention

to date, since the end of our golden age, christ consciousness humans have formed within environments in era's where the known information (awareness) of the day did not even closely relate to the information that our environment transmitted to the christ conscious receptors human

and because the incoming information is always the same
and our awareness (humanity) dissipated following era`s of catastrophe , there has never existed, since our golden age an era , awareness within humanity that matches incoming environmental information close enough to manifest/reflect/express christ conscious information

it could just never blossom, to big a leap

our 21st century is the first era that could benefit thus fully express information from christ conscious human(s) because now our current state of awareness does match the information our environment provides and we possess a global communication system

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what the video tells is a human receives it`s information (function as a human) from it`s environment and that each human is different in structure thus it each expresses it`s function differently
these differences are focused within our micro information receiving structures thus the differences we express are our personality, we are each a different "self" despite the fact we are all the same shape and of similar general appearance and bodily functions
the video tells when we die, if an embryo arrives with the same micro information receptors we possessed when alive we would live again possessing the same self (memory/personality) because the source of our "self" is not generated within our body, it is gained from our environments signals into our body

on the topic of shared fields the video confirms if you meet a person with enough similar receptors that you are prompted to form "bond" with them , their other receptors that are not in a geometric design of sameness to yours will transfer to you, via the "bond effect", information that your receptors do not receive
the same will occur for them
thus a "boosting" effect will be experienced by the influx of new information (emotionalism intuition) to each of you thus forming/experiencing an "enlightening" emotional experience for both parties
 Quoting: aether


That's why we move forward with people who feel good and withdraw from people who don't.
There's a certain level to which interaction is beneficial as far as information is concerned and the "feel good" requirement is in essence a non issue.

But if you look at christ consciousness level interaction it appears there's a certain degree of "feel good" required.
Whether or not our receptors change (at a dna level) during this time (some sort of evolutional ascention thing) I'm not sure...

Motive for illuminati and all secret occult doctrine to remain secret was to keep the purity? Ensuring certain initiates retained a level of understanding and what...respect for/understanding of the information in order to force/assist a physical/dna level change? I don't know if that was origin intent and later was defiled and made evil...but the foundational message of most religions regarding communication with love...it's not something that can be faked.
 Quoting: ArunaLuna


I think a lot of the secrecy was bred from necessity of protecting the initiates themselves. They are said to be haboring the Savior of Man, so if a Savior is needed by them what do they use to protect themselves until said time of the Savior? Secrecy. I believe the Illuminati's Savior(Messiah) is suppose to literally and physically posses the DNA and triple Helix which is hoped to lead to a lot of sciences unanswered questions. Think I was kind of talking things thru my own head on that.
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what the video tells is a human receives it`s information (function as a human) from it`s environment and that each human is different in structure thus it each expresses it`s function differently
these differences are focused within our micro information receiving structures thus the differences we express are our personality, we are each a different "self" despite the fact we are all the same shape and of similar general appearance and bodily functions
the video tells when we die, if an embryo arrives with the same micro information receptors we possessed when alive we would live again possessing the same self (memory/personality) because the source of our "self" is not generated within our body, it is gained from our environments signals into our body

on the topic of shared fields the video confirms if you meet a person with enough similar receptors that you are prompted to form "bond" with them , their other receptors that are not in a geometric design of sameness to yours will transfer to you, via the "bond effect", information that your receptors do not receive
the same will occur for them
thus a "boosting" effect will be experienced by the influx of new information (emotionalism intuition) to each of you thus forming/experiencing an "enlightening" emotional experience for both parties
 Quoting: aether


That's why we move forward with people who feel good and withdraw from people who don't.
There's a certain level to which interaction is beneficial as far as information is concerned and the "feel good" requirement is in essence a non issue.

But if you look at christ consciousness level interaction it appears there's a certain degree of "feel good" required.
Whether or not our receptors change (at a dna level) during this time (some sort of evolutional ascention thing) I'm not sure...

Motive for illuminati and all secret occult doctrine to remain secret was to keep the purity? Ensuring certain initiates retained a level of understanding and what...respect for/understanding of the information in order to force/assist a physical/dna level change? I don't know if that was origin intent and later was defiled and made evil...but the foundational message of most religions regarding communication with love...it's not something that can be faked.
 Quoting: ArunaLuna


I think a lot of the secrecy was bred from necessity of protecting the initiates themselves. They are said to be haboring the Savior of Man, so if a Savior is needed by them what do they use to protect themselves until said time of the Savior? Secrecy. I believe the Illuminati's Savior(Messiah) is suppose to literally and physically posses the DNA and triple Helix which is hoped to lead to a lot of sciences unanswered questions. Think I was kind of talking things thru my own head on that.
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hmmm...just read about the triple helix...I only saw the double and it was purple in color when I saw it, thats been a while tho.
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[link to www.youtube.com]



We discussed a symbol that shows up in this video on the She's thread the triple spiral

William Henry discusses it here as it applies to Jesus.

[link to www.williamhenry.net]
" I have Lost My Religion and found My Spirituality "

If it were not for My Life's Lessons I would not be Who I am today. "Thank You"

" I will NOT ... Give up: Give in: or admit defeat: I will overcome all obstacles in my path and reach the mark/goal and gateway out: :)) "
"It is Wholeness and Balance That I seek"
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if that is a specific question to me then you will need to further explain the question for an answere. I'm sorry Aether, it's harder for me to understand than most...i'm simple and simple mind and I do better with very simple wording...I don't mean to bring you down to my level of comprehension...maybe you could just reword it?



nooooooo w/f hugs
there were 0 exclusions within "you" within my mind upon writing that, me included
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visuals

tradition (traditional authority governed by tradition) talking to all within their authority (you)
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We discussed a symbol that shows up in this video on the She's thread the triple spiral

William Henry discusses it here as it applies to Jesus.

[link to www.williamhenry.net]
 Quoting: And Still I Rise


the scary part for some is Epigenetics indicates christ consciousness is self inflicted once awareness is aware it is so
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I believe that mediocrity is self-inflicted and that genius is self-bestowed.
 Quoting: walter russell


Born in Boston, MA on May 19, 1871, Russell left formal schooling at the age of nine (ten in some accounts) in order to help support his family.
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the scary part for some is Epigenetics indicates christ consciousness is self bestowed once awareness is aware it is so
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on reading walter self bestowed sounds better rockon

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We discussed a symbol that shows up in this video on the She's thread the triple spiral

William Henry discusses it here as it applies to Jesus.

[link to www.williamhenry.net]
 Quoting: And Still I Rise


the scary part for some is Epigenetics indicates christ consciousness is self inflicted once awareness is aware it is so
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I have to look stuff up as we discuss, so I mine as well post definitions;-)

epigenetics is the study of heritable changes in gene expression or cellular phenotype caused by mechanisms other than changes in the underlying DNA sequence – hence the name epi- (Greek: επί- over, above, outer) -genetics. It refers to functionally relevant modifications to the genome that do not involve a change in the nucleotide sequence. Examples of such changes are DNA methylation and histone deacetylation, both of which serve to suppress gene expression without altering the sequence of the silenced genes. In 2011, it was demonstrated that the methylation of mRNA has a critical role in human energy homeostasis. This opened the field of RNA epigenetics
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[link to www.youtube.com]



We discussed a symbol that shows up in this video on the She's thread the triple spiral

William Henry discusses it here as it applies to Jesus.

[link to www.williamhenry.net]
 Quoting: And Still I Rise


the scary part for some is Epigenetics indicates christ consciousness is self inflicted once awareness is aware it is so
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I have to look stuff up as we discuss, so I mine as well post definitions;-)

epigenetics is the study of heritable changes in gene expression or cellular phenotype caused by mechanisms other than changes in the underlying DNA sequence – hence the name epi- (Greek: επί- over, above, outer) -genetics. It refers to functionally relevant modifications to the genome that do not involve a change in the nucleotide sequence. Examples of such changes are DNA methylation and histone deacetylation, both of which serve to suppress gene expression without altering the sequence of the silenced genes. In 2011, it was demonstrated that the methylation of mRNA has a critical role in human energy homeostasis. This opened the field of RNA epigenetics
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"Fasting pathway" points the way to new class of diabetes drugs HDAC inhibitors may provide a novel way to cut excessive blood glucose levels at the source LA JOLLA, CA—A uniquely collaborative study by researchers at the Salk Institute for Biological Studies uncovered a novel mechanism that turns up glucose production in the liver when blood sugar levels drop, pointing towards a new class of drugs for the treatment of metabolic disease. Their findings, published in the May 13, 2011, issue of the journal Cell, revealed a crucial role for so called histone deacetylases (HDACs), a group of enzymes that is the target of the latest generation of cancer drugs.
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In human genetics, a human mitochondrial DNA haplogroup is a haplogroup defined by differences in human mitochondrial DNA. Haplogroups are used to represent the major branch points on the mitochondrial phylogenetic tree. Understanding the evolutionary path of the female lineage has helped population geneticists trace the matrilineal inheritance of modern humans back to human origins in Africa and the subsequent spread across the globe.

The letter names of the haplogroups run from A to Z. As haplogroups were named in the order of their discovery, they do not reflect the actual genetic relationships.

The woman at the root of all these groups is the matrilineal most recent common ancestor (MRCA) for all currently living humans. She is commonly called Mitochondrial Eve.
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mitochondria: the powerhouses in the cells that convert glucose into usable energy
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Follow these lineages back far enough and you get to what scientists call the Adam and Eve of genetics. “These are individuals who really lived in the past. There was really some woman at some point in the past who was the common ancestor of all modern mitochondrial DNA, and there really was one man who was the common ancestor of all Y chromosomes,” says Jobling. “They didn’t necessarily live at the same time — the evidence suggests they didn’t — but they were both probably within Africa.”

Y-chromosomal Adam probably lived 65,000 years ago, and mitochondrial Eve some 150,000 years ago. The people living around the same time as these two individuals would have passed on their genes like Adam and Eve, but their Y chromosome and mitochondrial DNA lines would have eventually died out. “You only need a man who doesn’t have any sons or a woman who doesn’t have any daughters for one of those lines to die,”
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If you take into account the cuneiform tablets of the Sumerians these timelines could also reflect modifications and complete repopulations from the anunnaki.
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Follow these lineages back far enough and you get to what scientists call the Adam and Eve of genetics. “These are individuals who really lived in the past. There was really some woman at some point in the past who was the common ancestor of all modern mitochondrial DNA, and there really was one man who was the common ancestor of all Y chromosomes,” says Jobling. “They didn’t necessarily live at the same time — the evidence suggests they didn’t — but they were both probably within Africa.”

Y-chromosomal Adam probably lived 65,000 years ago, and mitochondrial Eve some 150,000 years ago. The people living around the same time as these two individuals would have passed on their genes like Adam and Eve, but their Y chromosome and mitochondrial DNA lines would have eventually died out. “You only need a man who doesn’t have any sons or a woman who doesn’t have any daughters for one of those lines to die,”
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If you take into account the cuneiform tablets of the Sumerians these timelines could also reflect modifications and complete repopulations from the anunnaki.
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yea, I know...thats been on my mind as of late too...and then Fringe posting that link again kinda triggered same thought as you;-)
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And then there is the Haldane dilemma, which amounts to an understanding of the time spans which would be needed to spread ANY genetic change through any group of creatures. A very simple version of the thing is all most intelligent people should need:



"Imagine a population of 100,000 apes or "proto-humans" ten million years ago which are all genetically alike other than for two with a "beneficial mutation". Imagine also that this population has the human or proto-human generation cycle time of roughly 20 years.

Imagine that the beneficial mutation in question is so good, that all 99,998 other die out immediately (from jealousy), and that the pair with the beneficial mutation has 100,000 kids and thus replenishes the herd.

Imagine that this process goes on like that for ten million years, which is more than anybody claims is involved in "human evolution". The max number of such "beneficial mutations" which could thus be substituted into the herd would be ten million divided by twenty, or 500,000 point mutations which, Walter Remine notes, is about 1/100 of one percent of the human genome, and a miniscule fraction of the 2 to 3 percent that separates us from chimpanzees, or the half of that which separates us from neanderthals".




That basically says that even given a rate of evolutionary development which is fabulously beyond anything which is possible in the real world, starting from apes, in ten million years the best you could possibly hope for would be an ape with a slightly shorter tail.

People who have carried out the math for real-world rates of substitution come up with it taking quadrillions of years for our present living world to have evolved in any fashion even if that were possible, which it isn't.

So evolution needs quadrillions of years... how much time do they (evolutionites) actually have? A very big part of the answer has been coming in lately in the form of blood, blood vessels, and raw meat turning up in dinosaur remains:

In other words, Midrashic sources and Amerind oral traditions are basically correct in describing human interaction with dinosaurs just a few thousand years ago (there is no way raw meat and blood can survive for millions of years) and the thing we've heard all our lives about dinosaurs dying out 65M years ago is a bunch of BS.

A theory which needs quadrillions of years and only has a few thousand is basically FUBAR; no reasonably well educated person should ever buy into it.

What about humans, hominids such as the Neanderthal, and the stories we keep seeing in the news about some new human ancestor of the year which is supposedly going to save evolutionism, and what about the 30,000 and 200,000 year time frames involved in those stories?

In order to be descended from something via any process resembling evolution, at some point, you have to be able to interbreed with the something. Thus the curious total lack of any real evidence of modern man ever interbreeding with Neanderthals was always viewed as a big mystery particularly since there was evidence of the two groups living in close proximity for long periods. James Shreeve described the problem in an article published in Discover magazine in the mid 90s:

"Humans love to mate. They mate all the time, by night and by day, through all the phases of the female’s reproductive cycle. Given the opportunity, humans throughout the world will mate with any other human. The barriers between races and cultures, so cruelly evident in other respects, melt away when sex is at stake. Cortés began the systematic annihilation of the Aztec people--but that did not stop him from taking an Aztec princess for his wife. Blacks have been treated with contempt by whites in America since they were first forced into slavery, but some 20 percent of the genes in a typical African American are white. Consider James Cook’s voyages in the Pacific in the eighteenth century. Cook’s men would come to some distant land, and lining the shore were all these very bizarre-looking human beings with spears, long jaws, browridges, archeologist Clive Gamble of Southampton University in England told me. God, how odd it must have seemed to them. But that didn’t stop the Cook crew from making a lot of little Cooklets.

Project this universal human behavior back into the Middle Paleolithic. When Neanderthals and modern humans came into contact in the Levant, they would have interbred, no matter how strange they might initially have seemed to each other. If their cohabitation stretched over tens of thousands of years, the fossils should show a convergence through time toward a single morphological pattern, or at least some swapping of traits back and forth.

But the evidence just isn’t there, not if the TL and ESR dates are correct. Instead the Neanderthals stay staunchly themselves. In fact, according to some recent ESR dates, the least Neanderthalish among them is also the oldest. The full Neanderthal pattern is carved deep at the Kebara cave, around 60,000 years ago. The moderns, meanwhile, arrive very early at Qafzeh and Skhul and never lose their modern aspect. Certainly, it is possible that at any moment new fossils will be revealed that conclusively demonstrate the emergence of a Neandermod lineage. From the evidence in hand, however, the most likely conclusion is that Neanderthals and modern humans were not interbreeding in the Levant...
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And then in the late 1990s results of DNA studies of Neanderthal remains began to come in and cleared up the mystery:
Fossil DNA proves Neanderthals were not ancestors of humans
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"He said his team ran four separate tests for authenticity - checking whether other amino acids had survived, making sure the DNA sequences they found did not exist in modern humans, making sure the DNA could be replicated in their own lab and then getting other labs to duplicate their results. Comparisons with the DNA of modern humans and of apes showed the Neanderthal was about halfway between a modern human and a chimpanzee."

That's right: the Neanderthal was basically an advanced ape whose DNA was almost exactly halfway between ours and that of a chimpanzee, and we could no more interbreed with Neanderthals than we could with horses. Even the prestigeious PlosBiology system gave up on the idea (No Evidence of Neandertal mtDNA Contribution to Early Modern Humans).
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Clearly that should have been the end of any talk about modern humans having evolved from hominids since all other hominids were significantly FURTHER removed from us THAN the neanderthal. Nonetheless evolutionites go on talking about a "common ancestor(TM) for both ourselves and Neanderthals, 500,000 years back. That of course is idiotic; it's as if somebody had discovered some reason why dogs could not be descended from wolves, and the evolutionites were to claim that therefore they (dogs) must be descended directly from fish.

But what about the time frames? We've seen that the time frames we read about for dinosaurs are totally FUBAR, what about the 50,000 and 200,000 and 500,000 year time spans you read about for supposed human ancestors? Do evolutionites have the sort of time they'd need to even be talking about hominid/human evolution?
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Gunnar Heinsohn is best/brightest category in European academia and a frequent speaker at NATO gatherings since his population youth bulge theories predict political unrest with near 100% accuracy; he's also a major player in the ongoing efforts to reconstruct Med-basin chronologies. His "Wie Alt ist das Menschengeschlect" describes the problem with the dating schemes typically associated with Neanderthal studies:


Mueller-Karpe, the first name in continental paleoanthropology, wrote thirty years ago on the two strata of homo erectus at Swanscombe/England: "A difference between the tools in the upper and in the lower stratum is not recognizable. (From a geological point of view it is uncertain if between the two strata there passed decades, centuries or millennia.)" (Handbuch der Vorgeschichte, Vol I, Munich 1966, p. 293).

The outstanding scholar never returned to this hint that in reality there may have passed ten years where the textbooks enlist one thousand years. Yet, I tried to follow this thread. I went to the stratigraphies of the Old Stone Age which usually look as follows

modern man (homo sapiens sapiens)

Neanderthal man (homo sapiens neanderthalensis)

Homo erectus (invents fire and is considered the first intelligent man).

In my book "Wie alt ist das Menschengeschlecht?" [How Ancient is Man?], 1996, 2nd edition, I focused for Neanderthal man on his best preserved stratigraphy: Combe Grenal in France. Within 4 m of debris it exhibited 55 strata dated conventionally between -90,000 and -30,000. Roughly one millennium was thus assigned to some 7 cm of debris per stratum. Close scrutiny had revealed that most strata were only used in the summer. Thus, ca. one thousand summers were assigned to each stratum. If, however, the site lay idle in winter and spring one would have expected substratification. Ideally, one would look for one thousand substrata for the one thousand summers. Yet, not even two substrata were discovered in any of the strata. They themselves were the substrata in the 4 m stratigraphy. They, thus, were not good for 60,000 but only for 55 years.

I tested this assumption with the tool count. According to the Binfords' research--done on North American Indians--each tribal adult has at least five tool kits with some eight tools in each of them. At every time 800 tools existed in a band of 20 adults. Assuming that each tool lasted an entire generation (15 female years), Combe Grenals 4,000 generations in 60,000 years should have produced some 3.2 million tools. By going closer to the actual life time of flint tools tens of millions of tools would have to be expected for Combe Grenal. Ony 19,000 (nineteen thousand) remains of tools, however, were found by the excavators.

There seems to be no way out but to cut down the age of Neanderthal man at Combe Grenal from some 60,000 to some 60 years.

I applied the stratigraphical approach to the best caves in Europe for the entire time from Erectus to the Iron Age and reached at the following tentative chronology for intelligent man:

-600 onwards Iron Age
-900 onwards Bronze Age
-1400 beginning of modern man (homo sapiens sapiens)
-1500 beginning of Neanderthal man
between -2000 and -1600 beginning of Erectus.

Since Erectus only left the two poor strata like at Swanscombe or El-Castillo/Spain, he should actually not have lasted longer than Neanderthal-may be one average life expectancy. I will now not go into the mechanism of mutation. All I want to remind you of is the undisputed sequence of interstratification and monostratification in the master stratigraphies. This allows for one solution only: Parents of the former developmental stage of man lived together with their own offspring in the same cave stratum until they died out. They were not massacred as textbooks have it:

monostrat.: only modern man's tools

interstrat.: Neanderthal man's and modern man's tools side by side

monostrat.: only Neanderthal man's tools

interstrat.: Neanderthal man's and Erectus' tools side by side

monotstrat.: only Erectus tools (deepest stratum for intelligent man)

The year figures certainly sound bewildering. Yet, so far nobody came up with any stratigraphy justifiably demanding more time than I tentatively assigned to the age of intelligent man. I always remind my critiques that one millennium is an enormous time span--more than from William the Conqueror to today's Anglo-World. To add a millenium to human history should always go together with sufficient material remains to show for it. I will not even mention the easiness with which scholars add a million years to the history of man until they made Lucy 4 million years old. The time-span-madness is the last residue of Darwinism.


Heinsohn is not putting an exact age on the Neanderthal die-out; what he IS stating is that there is no legitimate interpretation of existing evidence which would indicate that they died out any more than four or five thousand years ago and that is basically consistent with the thing about raw dinosaur meat.

That of course is nowhere remotely close to the time frames which any sort of an evolutionary scheme of modern man from hominids would require. We are left with three basic choices:

Modern man was created here from scratch, and recently.

Modern man was brought here from somewhere else in the cosmos.

Modern man was genetically re-engineered from one of the hominids, most likely the Neanderthal.


Those are your three basic choices and none of them involve evolution. Moreover the second and third choices merely amount to kicking the can a block or two down the road as far as how anything like modern man ever came into existence anywhere in the universe at all since the the same mathematical and probabilistic laws which prevent macroevolution on this planet would hold true anywhere else. The 17B years which supposedly intervene since the "Big Bang(TM)" wouldn't be enough for modern man to evolve in the universe even if that were possible which it isn't, and even if the Big Bang idea itself weren't just another bunch of BS like evolution, which it is.
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We are left with three basic choices:

Modern man was created here from scratch, and recently.

Modern man was brought here from somewhere else in the cosmos.

Modern man was genetically re-engineered from one of the hominids, most likely the Neanderthal.
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For the first time, Tufts University biologists have reported that bioelectrical signals are necessary for normal head and facial formation in an organism and have captured that process in a time-lapse video that reveals never-before-seen patterns of visible bioelectrical signals outlining where eyes, nose, mouth, and other features will appear in an embryonic tadpole.
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The Tufts biologists found that, before the face of a tadpole develops, bioelectrical signals (ion flux) cause groups of cells to form patterns marked by different membrane voltage and pH levels. When stained with a reporter dye, hyperpolarized (negatively charged) areas shine brightly, while other areas appear darker, creating an "electric face."

"When a frog embryo is just developing, before it gets a face, a pattern for that face lights up on the surface of the embryo,"
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According to author Luc Bürgin, "In laboratory experiments the researchers there Dr. Guido Ebner and Heinz Schürch exposed cereal seeds and fish eggs to an 'electrostatic field' – in other words, to a high voltage field, in which no current flows. Unexpectedly primeval organisms grew out of these seeds and eggs: a fern that no botanist was able to identify; primeval corn with up to twelve ears per stalk; wheat that was ready to be harvested in just four to six weeks. And giant trout, extinct in Europe for 130 years, with so-called salmon hooks. It was as if these organisms accessed their own genetic memories on command in the electric field, a phenomenon, which the English biochemist, Rupert Sheldrake, for instance believes is possible."
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Perhaps these observations can all be tied together. Sheldrake's "morphic fields," protein jitter, gamete alteration that leads to speciation, and the electric charges in cells might all be manifestations of plasma's emergent properties. At some time in the past, as these pages have repeatedly emphasized, Earth's electrical properties were substantially altered when other highly charged objects or ionic clouds passed close to our plasmasphere.

Intense electric arcs swept across the surface of the Earth, creating powerful electromagnetic fields that could have transmuted biological organisms in the same way that they changed the atomic structure of elements and minerals. The famous Miller-Urey experiment demonstrated that inorganic compounds exposed to electric currents can be altered to form organic chemicals like amino acids.
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Haplogroup Possible time of origin Possible place of origin
N 75,000 years ago India or South Asia
R 70,000 years ago India or South Asia
U 60,000 years ago North-East Africa or South-West Asia
pre-JT 55,000 years ago Middle East
JT 50,000 years ago Middle East
U5 50,000 years ago Western Asia
U6 50,000 years ago North Africa
U8 50,000 years ago Western Asia
pre-HV 50,000 years ago Near East
J 45,000 years ago Near East or Caucasus
HV 40,000 years ago Near East
H over 35,000 years ago Western Asia
X over 30,000 years ago north-east Europe
U5a1 30,000 years ago Europe
I 30,000 years ago Caucasus or north-east Europe
J1a 27,000 years ago Near East
W 25,000 years ago north-east Europe or north-west Asia
U4 25,000 years ago Central Asia
J1b 23,000 years ago Near East
T 17,000 years ago Mesopotamia
K 16,000 years ago Near East
V 15,000 years ago Iberia and moved to Scandavia
H1b 13,000 years ago Europe
K1 12,000 years ago Near East
H3 10,000 years ago Western Europe
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i wonder how this fits:

Hawass previously announced that he would not release the racial DNA results of Egyptian mummies — obviously because he feared the consequences of such a revelation.

Haplogroups are assigned letters of the alphabet, and refinements consist of additional number and letter combinations, for example R1b or R1b1.

Y-chromosome and mitochondrial DNA haplogroups have different haplogroup designations. In essence, haplogroups give an insight into ancestral origins dating back thousands of years.

By entering all the STR data inadvertently shown on the Discovery video, a 99.6 percent fit with the R1b haplogroup is revealed.

The significance is, of course, that R1b is the most common Y-chromosome haplogroup in Europe reaching its highest concentrations in Ireland, Scotland, western England and the European Atlantic seaboard — in other words, European through and through… refugees from Atlantis, and not “out-of-Africa”.
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excellent article...

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