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You all are missing the boat on e0=mc2.

What this means is movement plays no role in mass, and volcity (kentic energy) is grossly misunderstood.

Equating e=mc2 to e0=mc2 means there is no supraluminal or subliminal barrier.

There is a reason einstein never provided a proof of e0=mc2 - much of the traditional theory falls apart as a byproduct. There is no barrier to light speed.
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yes ac, tricky topic.
we need to await 2 more days but i confirm my agreement with your post
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Intuitively, I would say there is a barrier, but it is not as commonly thought. Even barrier would be the wrong name for it.

More apt to say, is that it is a transition zone...
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Vodka at lunch Aether? You ok?
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time is motion...rather it be linear or circular, its still moving....im finding in my thought grouping rest with eternity and being...
and motion with time and becoming....nothing could manifest without time/motion...
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hey
time is how we (earth humans) express it.
remember this, the influence (force) we label gravity is instant as in:
has to act instantly (action over distance ) to be true

example: it can not take influence (force/gravity) 8 mins. approx light speed) to go from sun to earth (or visa versa) because if influence (force/gravity) did, we can never maintain constant distance from the sun, which we do

our authorities confirm our universe is maintained in the coherent form we experience it in by the influence labeled (force/gravity) and it is instant, therefore it is correct to say that their exists a constant, instant, influence, we did label, field named gravity, which is being renamed to, field named higgs.
this instant influence (force/field) maintains coherence and because it is the motion of information (effect) between all things it is, what we label time (action over distance)
thus we have a constant time within our coherent material dimension because all things are always in the location we experience them in, at the same time, everywhere, because the influence (field/force) that forces all material to be so is expressed, instantly, everywhere, always
thus all within our material dimension is of the same time, there is no part of our material dimension, behind, ahead or curved, all is in real time via instant action over distance force (influence/field/gravity)
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without reading that and with 0 excuse i will read it later but a bottle of vodka at lunch (very rare) does maybe get in the way alien03
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drinks
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You all are missing the boat on e0=mc2.

What this means is movement plays no role in mass, and volcity (kentic energy) is grossly misunderstood.

Equating e=mc2 to e0=mc2 means there is no supraluminal or subliminal barrier.

There is a reason einstein never provided a proof of e0=mc2 - much of the traditional theory falls apart as a byproduct. There is no barrier to light speed.
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yes ac, tricky topic.
we need to await 2 more days but i confirm my agreement with your post
 Quoting: aether


Intuitively, I would say there is a barrier, but it is not as commonly thought. Even barrier would be the wrong name for it.

More apt to say, is that it is a transition zone...
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True, but if both hold true the only commonality is scalar form.
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memory and experience...
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so we can see that what we label as time is the amount of motions (cause/effects) experienced.
in out material dimension all cause/effects occur at light speed or less thus our time (human time) is fixed against cause /effects within a slice of observed/experienced cause effects all of which occur within an environment that is maintained coherent by cause/effects happening at velocities above light speed.
thus what we label as time is relevant to what we experience within our environment and is not when labeled at light speed the only time that exists
it is the only time that is relevant to our awareness at present
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Vodka at lunch Aether? You ok?
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Ditto that.......blink

Afternoon Feather, everyone.
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so we can see that what we label as time is the amount of motions (cause/effects) experienced.
in out material dimension all cause/effects occur at light speed or less thus our time (human time) is fixed against cause /effects within a slice of observed/experienced cause effects all of which occur within an environment that is maintained coherent by cause/effects happening at velocities above light speed.
thus what we label as time is relevant to what we experience within our environment and is not when labeled at light speed the only time that exists
it is the only time that is relevant to our awareness at present
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To take that a step further the only timeline/experience that matters for a full universe is the one that crated you.

You are all that ever needed to be. It's all bonus that there are 7 billion of us.
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Vodka at lunch Aether? You ok?
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Ditto that.......blink

Afternoon Feather, everyone.
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Hi Bluered_heart
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so we can see that what we label as time is the amount of motions (cause/effects) experienced.
in out material dimension all cause/effects occur at light speed or less thus our time (human time) is fixed against cause /effects within a slice of observed/experienced cause effects all of which occur within an environment that is maintained coherent by cause/effects happening at velocities above light speed.
thus what we label as time is relevant to what we experience within our environment and is not when labeled at light speed the only time that exists
it is the only time that is relevant to our awareness at present
 Quoting: aether


example:
these are a range of velocities that exist within our material dimension which our awareness is aware of:

An femtosecond is the SI unit of time equal to 10-15 of a second. That is one quadrillionth, or one millionth of one billionth of a second . For context, a femtosecond is to a second what a second is to about 31.7 million years.
 Quoting: observation

[link to en.wikipedia.org]

An attosecond is an SI unit of time equal to of a second. (one quintillionth of a second).[1] For context, an attosecond is to a second what a second is to about 31.71 billion years, or twice the age of the universe
 Quoting: observation

[link to en.wikipedia.org]

now what does that mean
it means that information (emotional experience/distance between events) is occurring faster that light speed thus the experience is time slowing down because if you experience emotional events at faster than light speed when you return to light speed you have actually lived through (experienced) that which at light speed may take lifetimes

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Edmund Husserl (1859-1938)...Phenomenology

Phenomenology is a form of modern philosophy initiated by Edmund Husserl (1859-1938). The phenomenological approach to doing philosophy begins by acknowledging that much of philosophic activity is tainted by hidden, unquestioned presuppositions that slip unnoticed into our thought. Moreover, even our experience itself is conditioned by interpretive presuppositions and their related habits of attention. This natural attitude toward the world presents us with what amounts to a naive semblance of reality, together with its associated set of unquestioned concepts and categories.
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so we can see that what we label as time is the amount of motions (cause/effects) experienced.


Correct.



in out material dimension all cause/effects occur at light speed or less thus our time (human time) is fixed against cause /effects within a slice of observed/experienced cause effects all of which occur within an environment that is maintained coherent by cause/effects happening at velocities above light speed.



Correct, but that is also making the assumption that supraluminal existence actually exists. This is one of the areas that they are having difficulty in accepting...because to 'measure' anything that exists supraluminal, takes a supraluminal measuring device. Then, to bring the measurements back from supraluminal into subluminal, the measurements would be effected from traveling through the transition zone. So, the only thing they can actually observe, is the effect, and never the cause of anything that has nonlocal qualities. Perhaps THAT is the barrier, and not actual constant of light.



thus what we label as time is relevant to what we experience within our environment and is not when labeled at light speed the only time that exists



Why? Because of the reason I have stated above. They can only ever have half of the cause/effect law. They observe the effects, never being able to observe the cause. Or they can create a cause, but never observe what effects are made when doing the nonlocal research. They merely create a cause, the effect is non-observable, and they observe a result.




it is the only time that is relevant to our awareness at present
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Instead of thinking of speed of light needed to get from point A to B. How about the removal of what we see as light. Push it aside, part it, remove it. Almost like making a hole in a picture and stepping through to the other side.....I know crazy.
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Instead of thinking of speed of light needed to get from point A to B. How about the removal of what we see as light. Push it aside, part it, remove it. Almost like making a hole in a picture and stepping through to the other side.....I know crazy.
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ha...when you say remove it make a whole....reminds me of forming a new shape...lol
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Instead of thinking of speed of light needed to get from point A to B. How about the removal of what we see as light. Push it aside, part it, remove it. Almost like making a hole in a picture and stepping through to the other side.....I know crazy.
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That is something similar to what I said above in response to aether.

So, the only thing they can actually observe, is the effect, and never the cause of anything that has nonlocal qualities. Perhaps THAT is the barrier, and not actual constant of light.
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You all are missing the boat on e0=mc2.

What this means is movement plays no role in mass, and volcity (kentic energy) is grossly misunderstood.

Equating e=mc2 to e0=mc2 means there is no supraluminal or subliminal barrier.

There is a reason einstein never provided a proof of e0=mc2 - much of the traditional theory falls apart as a byproduct. There is no barrier to light speed.
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starting at 0:38
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hi fringe, yes, your on topic and i am mellow tounge
funny 24 hours that is good for me to experience i believe
although right now i can imagine not one reason why that is so

maybe to realize i never require another day like yesterday thus day as today
yes, that makes sense
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Instead of thinking of speed of light needed to get from point A to B. How about the removal of what we see as light. Push it aside, part it, remove it. Almost like making a hole in a picture and stepping through to the other side.....I know crazy.
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ha...when you say remove it make a whole....reminds me of forming a new shape...lol
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Maybe that is what we have to do. Reshape what we see????
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Instead of thinking of speed of light needed to get from point A to B. How about the removal of what we see as light. Push it aside, part it, remove it. Almost like making a hole in a picture and stepping through to the other side.....I know crazy.
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That is something similar to what I said above in response to aether.

So, the only thing they can actually observe, is the effect, and never the cause of anything that has nonlocal qualities. Perhaps THAT is the barrier, and not actual constant of light.
 Quoting: SickScent

Just read it.hugs
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The phenomenological turn or phenomenological reduction is a courageous turning back “to the things themselves” involving a radical suspension of all our natural attitudes about them, including their objective existence. Through this bracketing of our preconceptions and attitudes (called the epoche), we shift from the natural attitude to the more reflective phenomenological attitude. Husserl’s epoche is a bracket of the natural attitude we have about the world, a suspension of judgement with regard to the existence of objects of consciousness. Whereas the natural attitude accepts the world as a horizon or matrix or context for various experiences, the phenomenological attitude makes an inquiry into that horizon itself, and opens our inquiry into the mysteries of the ground beneath our normal experience of the world. Although Descartes doubted the world, Husserl is more radical than Descartes because he brackets even the belief in a psychological ego that is a thinking thing or essence. For Husserl, however, the transcendental subjectivity cannot be bracketed, since it is not an object or phenomenon or thing. Husserl thus distinguishes between the psychological ego as part of the world, and the transcendental ego as that which has a world and transcends the world to some extent.
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Edmund Husserl (1859-1938)...Phenomenology

Phenomenology is a form of modern philosophy initiated by Edmund Husserl (1859-1938). The phenomenological approach to doing philosophy begins by acknowledging that much of philosophic activity is tainted by hidden, unquestioned presuppositions that slip unnoticed into our thought. Moreover, even our experience itself is conditioned by interpretive presuppositions and their related habits of attention. This natural attitude toward the world presents us with what amounts to a naive semblance of reality, together with its associated set of unquestioned concepts and categories.
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Wow. What an amazing happenstance onto that one.
The term derives from the Ancient Greek words, meta, meaning beyond or after, and noia, meaning perception or understanding or mind.
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Instead of thinking of speed of light needed to get from point A to B. How about the removal of what we see as light. Push it aside, part it, remove it. Almost like making a hole in a picture and stepping through to the other side.....I know crazy.
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you know blue that is not crazy, that is clever because light is only a portion of what is "there" and it is the slowest portion.

so if you throw away light and step forward there is still material to support your weight but you and it flow faster than light;

analogy:
leap of faith

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Symbol more meaningful than the event? Is that what you are saying? Sometimes I struggle to follow your writing. Sometimes not. But clarify that please.
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yes, each event (symbol) may or may not in it`s own right have appeared stand alone of scale but to you no matter the scale of each event (symbol) it is the meaning of the symbol in the context of the sequence that you also recognize
it seems to me
what those symbols lead to is within your awareness and maybe not within others, they are not within mine until you tell then i fit them to my symbols to find match, or not

so far all symbols you have shown me of yours match my own differing symbols within the same manifesting living talking picture we are all within
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See that ‘feels’ like and algebraic equation to me. Calculus and geometric shape of spiral vortex as it passes over itself never touching the same place twice with your addition of the word ‘differing’. I believe that has something to do with historical dialectic logic. Not the right term.


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Yes. This is the research methodology I was employing at core back then and still now when describing the spiraling. The brushing up sense.
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Some Principles of
Phenomenological Hermeneutics

Copyright 1996 by John Lye. This text may be freely used, with attribution, for non-profit purposes.
As with all of my posts for this course, this document is open to change. If you have any suggestions (additions, qualifications, arguments, corrections), mail me.

1. We live in the world: in history, in concretion: we do not live any where else, and all meaning is only meaning in relation to particular, concrete, historical existence.

2. Our existence as beings includes: our situation; our tools-to-hand with and through which we manipulate and articulate the world; and our fore-understandings of the world.

3. We share reality through common signs. We cannot share anyone else's reality except through the mediation of our symbolic world -- that is, through a 'text' of some sort, which text has a context -- in fact, many contexts. On the other hand, as Gadamer says in Truth and Method, "Thanks to the linguistic nature of all interpretation every interpretation includes the possibility of a relationship with others. There can be no speech that does not bind the speaker and the person spoken to." When one "understands" another, one assimilates what is said to the point that is becomes one's own, lives as much as possible in the person's contexts and symbols.

....
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The term derives from the Ancient Greek words, meta, meaning beyond or after, and noia, meaning perception or understanding or mind.
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yes, each event (symbol) may or may not in it`s own right have appeared stand alone of scale but to you no matter the scale of each event (symbol) it is the meaning of the symbol in the context of the sequence that you also recognize
it seems to me
what those symbols lead to is within your awareness and maybe not within others, they are not within mine until you tell then i fit them to my symbols to find match, or not

so far all symbols you have shown me of yours match my own differing symbols within the same manifesting living talking picture we are all within
 Quoting: aether


See that ‘feels’ like and algebraic equation to me. Calculus and geometric shape of spiral vortex as it passes over itself never touching the same place twice with your addition of the word ‘differing’. I believe that has something to do with historical dialectic logic. Not the right term.


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Yes. This is the research methodology I was employing at core back then and still now when describing the spiraling. The brushing up sense.
 Quoting: A Muse Me


Some Principles of
Phenomenological Hermeneutics

Copyright 1996 by John Lye. This text may be freely used, with attribution, for non-profit purposes.
As with all of my posts for this course, this document is open to change. If you have any suggestions (additions, qualifications, arguments, corrections), mail me.

1. We live in the world: in history, in concretion: we do not live any where else, and all meaning is only meaning in relation to particular, concrete, historical existence.

2. Our existence as beings includes: our situation; our tools-to-hand with and through which we manipulate and articulate the world; and our fore-understandings of the world.

3. We share reality through common signs. We cannot share anyone else's reality except through the mediation of our symbolic world -- that is, through a 'text' of some sort, which text has a context -- in fact, many contexts. On the other hand, as Gadamer says in Truth and Method, "Thanks to the linguistic nature of all interpretation every interpretation includes the possibility of a relationship with others. There can be no speech that does not bind the speaker and the person spoken to." When one "understands" another, one assimilates what is said to the point that is becomes one's own, lives as much as possible in the person's contexts and symbols.

....
 Quoting: A Muse Me

 Quoting: A Muse Me


I feel like you have a unicorn inside you.
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If that is too challenging of a read for various and asunder reasons.

Then try this. I am actively reviewing again. Pulling things out of my closet.

[link to plato.stanford.edu]
 Quoting: A Muse Me


I understand what you wrote but seems more like Algebra when I was talking about Calculus.
 Quoting: HilosPP


Phenomenology History is anything but stagnant. It is logic that spirals. Brushes up against itself. And would never deny the math of matters. Put your super ego back in your pocket. I am happy to see you. lol
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It was the methodology I used in my thesis, Hilos. My thesis is ongoing through the pages of everything we are all processing. Again, I come from a background and education of Sociology. People are going to resonate in different ways. I have no issues with math. It is not my language. But yes it is others.
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The term derives from the Ancient Greek words, meta, meaning beyond or after, and noia, meaning perception or understanding or mind.
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See that ‘feels’ like and algebraic equation to me. Calculus and geometric shape of spiral vortex as it passes over itself never touching the same place twice with your addition of the word ‘differing’. I believe that has something to do with historical dialectic logic. Not the right term.


[link to www.brocku.ca]

Yes. This is the research methodology I was employing at core back then and still now when describing the spiraling. The brushing up sense.
 Quoting: A Muse Me


Some Principles of
Phenomenological Hermeneutics

Copyright 1996 by John Lye. This text may be freely used, with attribution, for non-profit purposes.
As with all of my posts for this course, this document is open to change. If you have any suggestions (additions, qualifications, arguments, corrections), mail me.

1. We live in the world: in history, in concretion: we do not live any where else, and all meaning is only meaning in relation to particular, concrete, historical existence.

2. Our existence as beings includes: our situation; our tools-to-hand with and through which we manipulate and articulate the world; and our fore-understandings of the world.

3. We share reality through common signs. We cannot share anyone else's reality except through the mediation of our symbolic world -- that is, through a 'text' of some sort, which text has a context -- in fact, many contexts. On the other hand, as Gadamer says in Truth and Method, "Thanks to the linguistic nature of all interpretation every interpretation includes the possibility of a relationship with others. There can be no speech that does not bind the speaker and the person spoken to." When one "understands" another, one assimilates what is said to the point that is becomes one's own, lives as much as possible in the person's contexts and symbols.

....
 Quoting: A Muse Me

 Quoting: A Muse Me


I feel like you have a unicorn inside you.
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You mean, besides me being in love with me...lmao

Well it has been there a little over seven reasons if there is a another one besides me. lol

Goddess knows how many might be in there...lol
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Instead of thinking of speed of light needed to get from point A to B. How about the removal of what we see as light. Push it aside, part it, remove it. Almost like making a hole in a picture and stepping through to the other side.....I know crazy.
 Quoting: Blue Skies


you know blue that is not crazy, that is clever because light is only a portion of what is "there" and it is the slowest portion.

so if you throw away light and step forward there is still material to support your weight but you and it flow faster than light;

analogy:
leap of faith


 Quoting: aether


and what does take your weight =


provides mass = exist

thus the analogy in the leap of faith says:

you remain in existence once your awareness goes through (past/faster) light

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hey amm,
your velocity is amazing this moment
quicker than my vodka assisted
so you know rockon
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hey amm,
your velocity is amazing this moment
quicker than my vodka assisted
so you know rockon
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1rof1 Drinking your lunch are you?

I do intend on having a Chocolate Stout later though.

That should slow my hover craft down...lmao
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Edmund Husserl (1859-1938)...Phenomenology

Phenomenology is a form of modern philosophy initiated by Edmund Husserl (1859-1938). The phenomenological approach to doing philosophy begins by acknowledging that much of philosophic activity is tainted by hidden, unquestioned presuppositions that slip unnoticed into our thought. Moreover, even our experience itself is conditioned by interpretive presuppositions and their related habits of attention. This natural attitude toward the world presents us with what amounts to a naive semblance of reality, together with its associated set of unquestioned concepts and categories.
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Wow. What an amazing happenstance onto that one.
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I'm certain thats a sarcastic statement...if not then please clarify....

I stumbled on this link a couple days ago...researching the mystery of time...been doing some cross reference on others....link if you would like
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Here you go Aether hf save this for when you have stoner

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