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Metal expands and contracts at a different rate than cement/mortar. Thus it creates cracking and shifting. It also reacts with the acids and alkalines that cause fusion and bonding in the mortar.
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Who killed the electric car?
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the modern business model.
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The cement and steel industry. Cars need roads. Gas needs cars.
The term derives from the Ancient Greek words, meta, meaning beyond or after, and noia, meaning perception or understanding or mind.
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Metal expands and contracts at a different rate than cement/mortar. Thus it creates cracking and shifting. It also reacts with the acids and alkalines that cause fusion and bonding in the mortar.
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Who killed the electric car?
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the modern business model.
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The cement and steel industry. Cars need roads. Gas needs cars.
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As Pangloss asserted: If it weren't for spectacles Noses needn't have been grown.
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;an electron "acts" negatively (i.e. it goes one way), but it does not convey any negative-ness to other objects - its charge is not negative, its charge is simply a kinetic emission.

- a proton "acts" positively (i.e. it goes the other way), but it does not convey any positive-ness to other objects - its charge is not positive, its charge is simply a kinetic emission.

"Charge" cannot be separated. Charge emitters, i.e. electrons and protons, can be separated from each other, but they cannot be segregated - you cannot have a big cloud of electrons over here and a big cloud of protons over there. How would you achieve such a feat? - the electrons will repel each other and the protons will repel each other. If you did succeed in building diffuse electron cloud and diffuse proton clouds, held loosely together by gravity, it would still be incorrect to attribute them to be negative and positive.

Protons have a significant gravitational effect and so they attract, but only to the point of proximity that repulsive charge emission will allow. In this respect they may be considered positive.

Electrons are less massive and so, produce a much smaller gravitational effect, but their charge is still significantly repulsive. In this respect they may be considered negative.
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thus the information carrier(s) function in accordance to the information/energy they receive to transmit
it is not their nature/personality as such
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Who killed the electric car?
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the modern business model.
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The cement and steel industry. Cars need roads. Gas needs cars.
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As Pangloss asserted: If it weren't for spectacles Noses needn't have been grown.
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All the better to smell you with?...
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because they appear to function in opposites never means they do not like each other

they are aware of information that does not emotionally form conflict from their actions



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;an electron "acts" negatively (i.e. it goes one way), but it does not convey any negative-ness to other objects - its charge is not negative, its charge is simply a kinetic emission.

- a proton "acts" positively (i.e. it goes the other way), but it does not convey any positive-ness to other objects - its charge is not positive, its charge is simply a kinetic emission.

"Charge" cannot be separated. Charge emitters, i.e. electrons and protons, can be separated from each other, but they cannot be segregated - you cannot have a big cloud of electrons over here and a big cloud of protons over there. How would you achieve such a feat? - the electrons will repel each other and the protons will repel each other. If you did succeed in building diffuse electron cloud and diffuse proton clouds, held loosely together by gravity, it would still be incorrect to attribute them to be negative and positive.

Protons have a significant gravitational effect and so they attract, but only to the point of proximity that repulsive charge emission will allow. In this respect they may be considered positive.

Electrons are less massive and so, produce a much smaller gravitational effect, but their charge is still significantly repulsive. In this respect they may be considered negative.
 Quoting: observation


thus the information carrier(s) function in accordance to the information/energy they receive to transmit
it is not their nature/personality as such
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because they appear to function in opposites never means they do not like each other

they are aware of information that does not emotionally form conflict from their actions



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;an electron "acts" negatively (i.e. it goes one way), but it does not convey any negative-ness to other objects - its charge is not negative, its charge is simply a kinetic emission.

- a proton "acts" positively (i.e. it goes the other way), but it does not convey any positive-ness to other objects - its charge is not positive, its charge is simply a kinetic emission.

"Charge" cannot be separated. Charge emitters, i.e. electrons and protons, can be separated from each other, but they cannot be segregated - you cannot have a big cloud of electrons over here and a big cloud of protons over there. How would you achieve such a feat? - the electrons will repel each other and the protons will repel each other. If you did succeed in building diffuse electron cloud and diffuse proton clouds, held loosely together by gravity, it would still be incorrect to attribute them to be negative and positive.

Protons have a significant gravitational effect and so they attract, but only to the point of proximity that repulsive charge emission will allow. In this respect they may be considered positive.

Electrons are less massive and so, produce a much smaller gravitational effect, but their charge is still significantly repulsive. In this respect they may be considered negative.
 Quoting: observation


thus the information carrier(s) function in accordance to the information/energy they receive to transmit
it is not their nature/personality as such
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because they appear to function in opposites never means they do not like each other

they are aware of information that does not emotionally form conflict from their actions



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This is why I am looking at them as heat/action and cold/cooling/density/gravity rather than individuated and quite divided actions and reactions. With an eye to the proximity to the cold density of the neutron.


And remember, In or Out of the boat, you still can't get out of the water.
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Why are animals used so widely in coats of arms?

The familiar red dragon of Wales and the double-headed eagle of the House of Habsburg exemplify a widespread and familiar practice to embed animal figures in heraldic devices, both in the Old and New Worlds, but few people dwell on the rationale of such a seemingly absurd practice.

The fantastic nature of a double-headed bird, a unicorn or a dragon alone identifies the realm of mythology as the home of such creatures emblazoned on armorial bearings, but what bearing do mythical beings have on aristocratic pedigrees?

Surprisingly, far from being frivolous ornamental touches, the zoological components of inherited family badges often boast longer pedigrees than the families themselves, reaching back into prehistoric times when many a noble lineage laid claim to have descended from some mythical beast.

The ‘mythogenealogies’ of individual lineages are rooted in the more archaic practice of totemism, which once prevailed on every inhabited continent. On this belief system, every clan, tribe or moiety asserted descent from a ‘totem’ believed to have lived in illo tempore. The overwhelming majority of such totems were animals, identified as the ancestral ‘people’ or ‘gods’ alive during the epoch of creation.

Anthropologists have amassed hundreds, perhaps thousands, of traditional reports that ‘animals’ and ‘people’ were identical at the dawn of time – beings possessing magical powers, typically of giant proportions and able to inhabit the heavens as easily as the earth, who were the active forces in the grand myths of a ‘golden age’, cosmic war and disaster, the formation of the earth’s geological features and the foundation of human culture........................

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This is why I am looking at them as heat/action and cold/cooling/density/gravity rather than individuated and quite divided actions and reactions. With an eye to the proximity to the cold density of the neutron.


And remember, In or Out of the boat, you still can't get out of the water.
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i`ve noticed tounge
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Space is not empty; the concept of "fields" affected to "particles" and simply loitering in "free space" is a contradiction. The notion of space as a 'void' of pure unadulterated 'emptiness' came from Democritus (460-370 B.C.) and is part of the "Atomist" theory which posits space as completely empty. This notion, though very old indeed, still infecting the physics of the modern era. No decent Aether Theory will posit such a thing as "Totally and completely empty space" as even modern day theory replaces 'empty space' with an active "vacuum" in order to usurp the Aether that came long before them and/or to rid their notions of creation ex nihilo.

The Aether is not undergoing 'random billiard-ball collisions'. Its motion is vortical and has sub-vortical movements as well. It is this vortical movement of the Aether that imparts 'Rotation' to celestial objects.

There are also phases of the Aether that know nothing about Einstein's self-imposed assumptive limit (its not a constant) of the supposed 'speed of light'. What is actually being 'measured is the 'reaction-time' of the material through which superluminal Aether 'excitation waves' pass and energetically infuse subsequently producing "photons" (secondaries) in their wake. A 'speed to light' was an assumption then; it is an assumption now.
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now we are getting somewhere rockon
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Talking about any human being even partly descended from that thing amounts to claiming that some Neanderthal male abducted and raped a woman and, rather than subsequently cooking and eating her, kept her alive long enough for her to bear a mixed-species child, and somehow or other raised the child to somehow or other breed back into human populations. That's basically idiotic. It would have never happened in the first place; the Neanderthal females would have killed that woman the first time her owner left her alone for ten seconds; and the Cro Magnons would have killed any cross-breeds when they killed off all the other hominids. Nor would they have needed DNA tests to make sure of who they were killing, it would have been really, really obvious.

What about the "new studies(TM)" you read about supposedly from 2010 and the claim that whites and East Asians have 1 - 4 percent Neanderthal DNA while Africans don't? In real life, any genes which we and Neanderthals (or any other apes for that matter) might have in common are basically just artifacts of some original designer using some of the same low-level parts much as C language math functions are used in both banking applications and rocket telemetry problems.

Autism existed in 1955 but it was hellishly rare. The explosion of Autism in our present age pretty much rules out calling it a genetic problem, the basic Haldane dilemma would prohibit anything like that.
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use this for visuals:

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There is terribly little genetic diversity amongst modern humans, vastly less than is the case with most mammalian species and that is due to one or more recent bottlenecks at which human populations were reduced to very small numbers. That cannot possibly be squared with the idea of any modern humans ever having interbred with Neanderthals.
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so, no sex or social interaction tounge
but
as to what neanderthals looked like and acted
good visuals in the video
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and notice something when you are shown a neanderthal
it prompts ancestral fear as in:
strikes a cord
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and notice something when you are shown a neanderthal
it prompts ancestral fear as in:
strikes a cord
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I know someone with Irish roots that has two stomachs...genetic mystery?
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and notice something when you are shown a neanderthal
it prompts ancestral fear as in:
strikes a cord
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Wow, that documentary inspired me to go hunting. Cheers
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And then there is the Haldane dilemma, which amounts to an understanding of the time spans which would be needed to spread ANY genetic change through any group of creatures. A very simple version of the thing is all most intelligent people should need:



"Imagine a population of 100,000 apes or "proto-humans" ten million years ago which are all genetically alike other than for two with a "beneficial mutation". Imagine also that this population has the human or proto-human generation cycle time of roughly 20 years.

Imagine that the beneficial mutation in question is so good, that all 99,998 other die out immediately (from jealousy), and that the pair with the beneficial mutation has 100,000 kids and thus replenishes the herd.

Imagine that this process goes on like that for ten million years, which is more than anybody claims is involved in "human evolution". The max number of such "beneficial mutations" which could thus be substituted into the herd would be ten million divided by twenty, or 500,000 point mutations which, Walter Remine notes, is about 1/100 of one percent of the human genome, and a miniscule fraction of the 2 to 3 percent that separates us from chimpanzees, or the half of that which separates us from neanderthals".




That basically says that even given a rate of evolutionary development which is fabulously beyond anything which is possible in the real world, starting from apes, in ten million years the best you could possibly hope for would be an ape with a slightly shorter tail.

People who have carried out the math for real-world rates of substitution come up with it taking quadrillions of years for our present living world to have evolved in any fashion even if that were possible, which it isn't.

So evolution needs quadrillions of years... how much time do they (evolutionites) actually have? A very big part of the answer has been coming in lately in the form of blood, blood vessels, and raw meat turning up in dinosaur remains:

In other words, Midrashic sources and Amerind oral traditions are basically correct in describing human interaction with dinosaurs just a few thousand years ago (there is no way raw meat and blood can survive for millions of years) and the thing we've heard all our lives about dinosaurs dying out 65M years ago is a bunch of BS.

A theory which needs quadrillions of years and only has a few thousand is basically FUBAR; no reasonably well educated person should ever buy into it.

What about humans, hominids such as the Neanderthal, and the stories we keep seeing in the news about some new human ancestor of the year which is supposedly going to save evolutionism, and what about the 30,000 and 200,000 year time frames involved in those stories?

In order to be descended from something via any process resembling evolution, at some point, you have to be able to interbreed with the something. Thus the curious total lack of any real evidence of modern man ever interbreeding with Neanderthals was always viewed as a big mystery particularly since there was evidence of the two groups living in close proximity for long periods. James Shreeve described the problem in an article published in Discover magazine in the mid 90s:

"Humans love to mate. They mate all the time, by night and by day, through all the phases of the female’s reproductive cycle. Given the opportunity, humans throughout the world will mate with any other human. The barriers between races and cultures, so cruelly evident in other respects, melt away when sex is at stake. Cortés began the systematic annihilation of the Aztec people--but that did not stop him from taking an Aztec princess for his wife. Blacks have been treated with contempt by whites in America since they were first forced into slavery, but some 20 percent of the genes in a typical African American are white. Consider James Cook’s voyages in the Pacific in the eighteenth century. Cook’s men would come to some distant land, and lining the shore were all these very bizarre-looking human beings with spears, long jaws, browridges, archeologist Clive Gamble of Southampton University in England told me. God, how odd it must have seemed to them. But that didn’t stop the Cook crew from making a lot of little Cooklets.

Project this universal human behavior back into the Middle Paleolithic. When Neanderthals and modern humans came into contact in the Levant, they would have interbred, no matter how strange they might initially have seemed to each other. If their cohabitation stretched over tens of thousands of years, the fossils should show a convergence through time toward a single morphological pattern, or at least some swapping of traits back and forth.

But the evidence just isn’t there, not if the TL and ESR dates are correct. Instead the Neanderthals stay staunchly themselves. In fact, according to some recent ESR dates, the least Neanderthalish among them is also the oldest. The full Neanderthal pattern is carved deep at the Kebara cave, around 60,000 years ago. The moderns, meanwhile, arrive very early at Qafzeh and Skhul and never lose their modern aspect. Certainly, it is possible that at any moment new fossils will be revealed that conclusively demonstrate the emergence of a Neandermod lineage. From the evidence in hand, however, the most likely conclusion is that Neanderthals and modern humans were not interbreeding in the Levant...
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And then in the late 1990s results of DNA studies of Neanderthal remains began to come in and cleared up the mystery:
Fossil DNA proves Neanderthals were not ancestors of humans
[link to www.expressindia.com]

"He said his team ran four separate tests for authenticity - checking whether other amino acids had survived, making sure the DNA sequences they found did not exist in modern humans, making sure the DNA could be replicated in their own lab and then getting other labs to duplicate their results. Comparisons with the DNA of modern humans and of apes showed the Neanderthal was about halfway between a modern human and a chimpanzee."

That's right: the Neanderthal was basically an advanced ape whose DNA was almost exactly halfway between ours and that of a chimpanzee, and we could no more interbreed with Neanderthals than we could with horses. Even the prestigeious PlosBiology system gave up on the idea (No Evidence of Neandertal mtDNA Contribution to Early Modern Humans).
[link to www.plosbiology.org]

Clearly that should have been the end of any talk about modern humans having evolved from hominids since all other hominids were significantly FURTHER removed from us THAN the neanderthal. Nonetheless evolutionites go on talking about a "common ancestor(TM) for both ourselves and Neanderthals, 500,000 years back. That of course is idiotic; it's as if somebody had discovered some reason why dogs could not be descended from wolves, and the evolutionites were to claim that therefore they (dogs) must be descended directly from fish.

But what about the time frames? We've seen that the time frames we read about for dinosaurs are totally FUBAR, what about the 50,000 and 200,000 and 500,000 year time spans you read about for supposed human ancestors? Do evolutionites have the sort of time they'd need to even be talking about hominid/human evolution?
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and notice something when you are shown a neanderthal
it prompts ancestral fear as in:
strikes a cord
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I know someone with Irish roots that has two stomachs...genetic mystery?
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we are hovering around this:

Gunnar Heinsohn is best/brightest category in European academia and a frequent speaker at NATO gatherings since his population youth bulge theories predict political unrest with near 100% accuracy; he's also a major player in the ongoing efforts to reconstruct Med-basin chronologies. His "Wie Alt ist das Menschengeschlect" describes the problem with the dating schemes typically associated with Neanderthal studies:


Mueller-Karpe, the first name in continental paleoanthropology, wrote thirty years ago on the two strata of homo erectus at Swanscombe/England: "A difference between the tools in the upper and in the lower stratum is not recognizable. (From a geological point of view it is uncertain if between the two strata there passed decades, centuries or millennia.)" (Handbuch der Vorgeschichte, Vol I, Munich 1966, p. 293).

The outstanding scholar never returned to this hint that in reality there may have passed ten years where the textbooks enlist one thousand years. Yet, I tried to follow this thread. I went to the stratigraphies of the Old Stone Age which usually look as follows

modern man (homo sapiens sapiens)

Neanderthal man (homo sapiens neanderthalensis)

Homo erectus (invents fire and is considered the first intelligent man).

In my book "Wie alt ist das Menschengeschlecht?" [How Ancient is Man?], 1996, 2nd edition, I focused for Neanderthal man on his best preserved stratigraphy: Combe Grenal in France. Within 4 m of debris it exhibited 55 strata dated conventionally between -90,000 and -30,000. Roughly one millennium was thus assigned to some 7 cm of debris per stratum. Close scrutiny had revealed that most strata were only used in the summer. Thus, ca. one thousand summers were assigned to each stratum. If, however, the site lay idle in winter and spring one would have expected substratification. Ideally, one would look for one thousand substrata for the one thousand summers. Yet, not even two substrata were discovered in any of the strata. They themselves were the substrata in the 4 m stratigraphy. They, thus, were not good for 60,000 but only for 55 years.

I tested this assumption with the tool count. According to the Binfords' research--done on North American Indians--each tribal adult has at least five tool kits with some eight tools in each of them. At every time 800 tools existed in a band of 20 adults. Assuming that each tool lasted an entire generation (15 female years), Combe Grenals 4,000 generations in 60,000 years should have produced some 3.2 million tools. By going closer to the actual life time of flint tools tens of millions of tools would have to be expected for Combe Grenal. Ony 19,000 (nineteen thousand) remains of tools, however, were found by the excavators.

There seems to be no way out but to cut down the age of Neanderthal man at Combe Grenal from some 60,000 to some 60 years.

I applied the stratigraphical approach to the best caves in Europe for the entire time from Erectus to the Iron Age and reached at the following tentative chronology for intelligent man:

-600 onwards Iron Age
-900 onwards Bronze Age
-1400 beginning of modern man (homo sapiens sapiens)
-1500 beginning of Neanderthal man
between -2000 and -1600 beginning of Erectus.

Since Erectus only left the two poor strata like at Swanscombe or El-Castillo/Spain, he should actually not have lasted longer than Neanderthal-may be one average life expectancy. I will now not go into the mechanism of mutation. All I want to remind you of is the undisputed sequence of interstratification and monostratification in the master stratigraphies. This allows for one solution only: Parents of the former developmental stage of man lived together with their own offspring in the same cave stratum until they died out. They were not massacred as textbooks have it:

monostrat.: only modern man's tools

interstrat.: Neanderthal man's and modern man's tools side by side

monostrat.: only Neanderthal man's tools

interstrat.: Neanderthal man's and Erectus' tools side by side

monotstrat.: only Erectus tools (deepest stratum for intelligent man)

The year figures certainly sound bewildering. Yet, so far nobody came up with any stratigraphy justifiably demanding more time than I tentatively assigned to the age of intelligent man. I always remind my critiques that one millennium is an enormous time span--more than from William the Conqueror to today's Anglo-World. To add a millenium to human history should always go together with sufficient material remains to show for it. I will not even mention the easiness with which scholars add a million years to the history of man until they made Lucy 4 million years old. The time-span-madness is the last residue of Darwinism.


Heinsohn is not putting an exact age on the Neanderthal die-out; what he IS stating is that there is no legitimate interpretation of existing evidence which would indicate that they died out any more than four or five thousand years ago and that is basically consistent with the thing about raw dinosaur meat.

That of course is nowhere remotely close to the time frames which any sort of an evolutionary scheme of modern man from hominids would require. We are left with three basic choices:

Modern man was created here from scratch, and recently.

Modern man was brought here from somewhere else in the cosmos.

Modern man was genetically re-engineered from one of the hominids, most likely the Neanderthal.


Those are your three basic choices and none of them involve evolution. Moreover the second and third choices merely amount to kicking the can a block or two down the road as far as how anything like modern man ever came into existence anywhere in the universe at all since the the same mathematical and probabilistic laws which prevent macroevolution on this planet would hold true anywhere else. The 17B years which supposedly intervene since the "Big Bang(TM)" wouldn't be enough for modern man to evolve in the universe even if that were possible which it isn't, and even if the Big Bang idea itself weren't just another bunch of BS like evolution, which it is.
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and notice something when you are shown a neanderthal
it prompts ancestral fear as in:
strikes a cord
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Wow, that documentary inspired me to go hunting. Cheers
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mr fearless rockon
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and notice something when you are shown a neanderthal
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strikes a cord
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Wow, that documentary inspired me to go hunting. Cheers
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mr fearless rockon
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LOL...... or Mr Neandrathal
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Male/Female interaction as the Hot/Cool of the Electron/Proton.

Hot jagged flash of lightning across a cool Moon and plasmic void.

The original Sin( Moon) and inception and conception (electron to ground).

Male majic is a slight twist of vertical (y-axis) torsional field. Female from twist of (x-axis) ground, the void. (360(360^360)) expressions of potential. Magnetic interpolation and inductive being deduced from that (aether) just above null zero.


The dream fights to stay hot and dynamic and words do little to tie it down.

Time and gravity are induced and suffused into twisting vortical being as densities and quite apart.

Salts (alkaline) and Sugars acid create twisting magnetic battery in void. Trapped in the insulators of lipids and proteins to create enduring form.


Still an incomplete thunk.


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Congrats, you have discovered that Newton`s 3rd Law, aka Lenz`s Law is bullshit.
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Male/Female interaction as the Hot/Cool of the Electron/Proton.

Hot jagged flash of lightning across a cool Moon and plasmic void.

The original Sin( Moon) and inception and conception (electron to ground).

Male majic is a slight twist of vertical (y-axis) torsional field. Female from twist of (x-axis) ground, the void. (360(360^360)) expressions of potential. Magnetic interpolation and inductive being deduced from that (aether) just above null zero.


The dream fights to stay hot and dynamic and words do little to tie it down.

Time and gravity are induced and suffused into twisting vortical being as densities and quite apart.

Salts (alkaline) and Sugars acid create twisting magnetic battery in void. Trapped in the insulators of lipids and proteins to create enduring form.


Still an incomplete thunk.


Thread: Conciousness, filters and the eschatological age (Page 14)
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you have taken me to our past:

>>>>>well spotted

>>>>>can we become a tornado , well ......

Maybe we already are tornados and we just don't know it yet.
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keeping that in mind whilst discovering what was in the minds of our more recent ancestors, the hebrews, babylonians and egyptians etc...............

Ningishzida

Ningishzida is the earliest known symbol of snakes twining (some (One Greek myth of origin of the caduceus is part of the story of Tiresias, who found two snakes copulating and killed the female with his staff. ) say [copulation]][who?]) around an axial rod. It predates the Caduceus of Hermes, the Rod of Asclepius and the staff of Moses by more than a millennium.
 Quoting: observation

[link to en.wikipedia.org]
 Quoting: aether


Woah...
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place yourself in the mind of our ancient ancestors whom still possessed some awareness of what we call electricity

i say some awareness because by the time of moses and people like that, electricity had become the symbol of god and whomever possessed ability to utilize it was considered chosen by god to do so

The spin positions of the Aether in which electrons and protons exist, as well as the electrons and protons themselves, could be described as having a snake-like appearance. We could even describe the electrons as female snakes, and protons as male snakes. A magic wand (conductive metal) placed between the snakes would encourage the two to climb aboard the wand and unite.

Nobody really knows where the caduceus originated, its origin being so far back in time. But we do know that it has been a part of many ancient cultures. We also know that the caduceus was a staff carried by Hermes (also known as Mercury), as he flew across great distances, at great speed, carrying his messages. Isn’t it rather fortuitous that thousands of years ago a mythical god carried messages at great speeds across great distances and holding a staff, which modern science can interpret as electricity? What great luck! It sounds like Hermes could be a modern symbol for radio transmission, or even the World Wide Web.

So is it really a myth? Electricity was known thousands of years ago, and ancient cities of grand proportions are being discovered on land and under sea that hasn’t been above water in over 11,500 years
 Quoting: observation

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Thread: BIBLE UNVEILED.. !!!!: The Hidden Story in the Stars. (Page 10)

......all of whom are survivors/ancestors of much older cultures

why did they consider electricity to be the manifestation of god and how did this attitude fit the purpose of surviving structures of their past they lived within but as today, did not possess memory for how these structures functioned or how their own social structures once functioned within them
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Male/Female interaction as the Hot/Cool of the Electron/Proton.

Hot jagged flash of lightning across a cool Moon and plasmic void.

The original Sin( Moon) and inception and conception (electron to ground).

Male majic is a slight twist of vertical (y-axis) torsional field. Female from twist of (x-axis) ground, the void. (360(360^360)) expressions of potential. Magnetic interpolation and inductive being deduced from that (aether) just above null zero.


The dream fights to stay hot and dynamic and words do little to tie it down.

Time and gravity are induced and suffused into twisting vortical being as densities and quite apart.

Salts (alkaline) and Sugars acid create twisting magnetic battery in void. Trapped in the insulators of lipids and proteins to create enduring form.


Still an incomplete thunk.


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you have taken me to our past:

>>>>>well spotted

>>>>>can we become a tornado , well ......

Maybe we already are tornados and we just don't know it yet.
 Quoting: peanut 13516


keeping that in mind whilst discovering what was in the minds of our more recent ancestors, the hebrews, babylonians and egyptians etc...............

Ningishzida

Ningishzida is the earliest known symbol of snakes twining (some (One Greek myth of origin of the caduceus is part of the story of Tiresias, who found two snakes copulating and killed the female with his staff. ) say [copulation]][who?]) around an axial rod. It predates the Caduceus of Hermes, the Rod of Asclepius and the staff of Moses by more than a millennium.
 Quoting: observation

[link to en.wikipedia.org]
 Quoting: aether


Woah...
 Quoting: ArunaLuna


place yourself in the mind of our ancient ancestors whom still possessed some awareness of what we call electricity

i say some awareness because by the time of moses and people like that, electricity had become the symbol of god and whomever possessed ability to utilize it was considered chosen by god to do so

The spin positions of the Aether in which electrons and protons exist, as well as the electrons and protons themselves, could be described as having a snake-like appearance. We could even describe the electrons as female snakes, and protons as male snakes. A magic wand (conductive metal) placed between the snakes would encourage the two to climb aboard the wand and unite.

Nobody really knows where the caduceus originated, its origin being so far back in time. But we do know that it has been a part of many ancient cultures. We also know that the caduceus was a staff carried by Hermes (also known as Mercury), as he flew across great distances, at great speed, carrying his messages. Isn’t it rather fortuitous that thousands of years ago a mythical god carried messages at great speeds across great distances and holding a staff, which modern science can interpret as electricity? What great luck! It sounds like Hermes could be a modern symbol for radio transmission, or even the World Wide Web.

So is it really a myth? Electricity was known thousands of years ago, and ancient cities of grand proportions are being discovered on land and under sea that hasn’t been above water in over 11,500 years
 Quoting: observation

 Quoting: aether

Thread: BIBLE UNVEILED.. !!!!: The Hidden Story in the Stars. (Page 10)

......all of whom are survivors/ancestors of much older cultures

why did they consider electricity to be the manifestation of god and how did this attitude fit the purpose of surviving structures of their past they lived within but as today, did not possess memory for how these structures functioned or how their own social structures once functioned within them
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Thread: SAINT LOUIS ~ syncroni ~ €it¥ , Missouri (Page 19)
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Read the rest as I'm still trying to grapple with some volatile dreamtime experiences that are based on entangling suns, Keplers nesting and veils of conciousness as cubes of entrapping densities and subsequent flows.

Thank god I'm quite sane and seek to balance all these vivid images into a cantilevered road to..........?
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Weird scenes from inside the Goldmine

A Vision of Keplers nested Platonic solids and the Idea that they never amounted to much.

4, 8, 12, 20

faces with names and elements:

fire, air, aether, water

Nested within the cube.

earth

The vertex configuration of the cube is 4.4.4 (64)


2 axis figure prominently.

The 4 souls of the Egyptian mystery schools and three veils (4.4.4).

Ka-the etheric double.

Ba-Astral soul

Semi divine-saha

Divine soul-eternal and immutable.

Frequency of form and the Orphic egg.

The oil of Morpheus poured in.

Computational potential (360 (360^360))

Aether is neutral medium holding null, minimal density, minimal potential charge.

As a spiral toroid occurs by the twisting of aether(plasmic field) it induces a vortices. All matter is caused by the magnetic spiral twisting of space(aether).

It creates tension and like particles accrete and balance or twist further creating densities with formulation of dimension.

This is all modelled by the suns electric/magnetic/torsional fields. They induce and create form as they twist and are subsumed and assumed as they become unstable. Positronic/electronic force is made gas(plasma)

These are the realizations of dreaming universe.

A nightly interloper, dream and you channel the universe.
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Excellent thunk here, Dionysian.

I like this, because I can directly relate to much of it through personal experience while playing in the dream world...whatever that place truly is.

Platonic Solids are attracted mass spheres/toroids set in closest proximity to each other.

VERTEX configuration eludes me.

Because of initial stable torus form, which can only exist as it does because: charge/field/angular momentum (motion) and it's 'forces' of charge (+/-), field (attraction/repulsion) and angular momentum (motion in accordance with charge/field interaction)

3 veils with 4 souls per veil...4 souls are below...what are the 3 veils? Trinity of charge/field/motion? With each veil having 4 souls?

4 souls:
Ka-the etheric double.

Ba-Astral soul

Semi divine-saha

Divine soul-eternal and immutable.


4 souls are gradients, not truly divided, but overlapping.

Frequency of form = the shape and properties of which is the Orphic Egg: Correct?

Oil of Morpheus = dew...consciousness: Correct?

Aether is potential of mass (form/function). It is a dormant charge/field. A motion occurs that starts the twist that can only remain stable as described above, with the Trinity. The Trinity all happens at once. As soon as charge arrives, field arrives with it, and neither of these can exist without the motion which instantly becomes angular because of charge and field.

So, charge cannot exist without field, and vice-versa, and neither of the two can exist without motion, which is always angular. All of them are a locked piece.

Any further of this original is the life of complexity. Everything 'bleeds' off this original and creates other 'forces' to manifest, most importantly tensor forces. Tensor forces create the dimensional aspect you described above.



These are the realizations of dreaming universe.

A nightly interloper, dream and you channel the universe.



And so it seems I have...
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sorry if you already covered this...

[link to www.independent.co.uk]
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sorry if you already covered this...

[link to www.independent.co.uk]
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The atomic clocks used in the study are based on the tiny vibrations of aluminium atoms trapped in an electric field. These vibrations are in the same frequency range of ultraviolet light, detected by lasers, which effectively means that the atomic timepieces are optical clocks, accurate enough to measure billionths of a second and to keep time accurately over millions of years.
 Quoting: observation


okay that is what the clock is detecting , motion of light

Einstein's theory of relativity states that time and space are not as constant as everyday life would suggest. He suggested that the only true constant, the speed of light, meant that time can run faster or slower depending on how high you are, and how fast you are traveling.
 Quoting: observation


so einstein decided that light always traveled at the same velocity thus any changes must be the environment and not light

found that when they monitored two such clocks positioned just a foot apart in height above sea level, they found that time really does run more quickly the higher you are
 Quoting: observation


the force of gravity is strongest on the surface and reduces as you arise from the surface
light is less effected (slowed) by gravity as you arise from the surface hence it travels faster thus shown in the experiment
because light went faster the measurement between light signals (frequency range of ultraviolet light) shortened thus the measure symbol (time) was less

in other words the velocity of light is governed by the environment it travels through and not the information contained within light
light is a carrier of information, not it`s own master (constant)

the alternative is to pretend time is a dimension as in:
a separate non material structure that units (material structures) exist within

i don`t believe anyone would imagine the word time as a dimension
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sorry if you already covered this...

[link to www.independent.co.uk]
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The atomic clocks used in the study are based on the tiny vibrations of aluminium atoms trapped in an electric field. These vibrations are in the same frequency range of ultraviolet light, detected by lasers, which effectively means that the atomic timepieces are optical clocks, accurate enough to measure billionths of a second and to keep time accurately over millions of years.
 Quoting: observation


okay that is what the clock is detecting , motion of light

Einstein's theory of relativity states that time and space are not as constant as everyday life would suggest. He suggested that the only true constant, the speed of light, meant that time can run faster or slower depending on how high you are, and how fast you are traveling.
 Quoting: observation


so einstein decided that light always traveled at the same velocity thus any changes must be the environment and not light

found that when they monitored two such clocks positioned just a foot apart in height above sea level, they found that time really does run more quickly the higher you are
 Quoting: observation


the force of gravity is strongest on the surface and reduces as you arise from the surface
light is less effected (slowed) by gravity as you arise from the surface hence it travels faster thus shown in the experiment
because light went faster the measurement between light signals (frequency range of ultraviolet light) shortened thus the measure symbol (time) was less

in other words the velocity of light is governed by the environment it travels through and not the information contained within light
light is a carrier of information, not it`s own master (constant)

the alternative is to pretend time is a dimension as in:
a separate non material structure that units (material structures) exist within

i don`t believe anyone would imagine the word time as a dimension
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This is something that I haven't quite grasped...and I should have by now.

Light is a constant. But, it can slow down?

How about this. Light is a constant, but because of gravity, the light 'bends' which means it takes longer to travel from point A to B, because it is not a straight line.

I cannot believe I haven't looked into this yet. I need to today, as it effects everything within it's environment.

We have always generalized about light being constant, but here it is slowing down because of gravity...

hmm
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General Relativity

Einstein went on to discover a more general theory of relativity which explained gravity in terms of curved spacetime, and he talked about the speed of light changing in this new theory. In the 1920 book "Relativity: the special and general theory" he wrote: . . . according to the general theory of relativity, the law of the constancy of the velocity of light in vacuo, which constitutes one of the two fundamental assumptions in the special theory of relativity [. . .] cannot claim any unlimited validity. A curvature of rays of light can only take place when the velocity of propagation of light varies with position. Since Einstein talks of velocity (a vector quantity: speed with direction) rather than speed alone, it is not clear that he meant the speed will change, but the reference to special relativity suggests that he did mean so. This interpretation is perfectly valid and makes good physical sense, but a more modern interpretation is that the speed of light is constant in general relativity.

[link to math.ucr.edu]


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I just don't get this. Remember the observation rule. No matter the speed or position of the observer, light always appears to be traveling at c velocity to that observer.

So, we are seeing an effect outside of its environs, as we are not the initial observer of the 'clocks'. The initial observer of the clocks are the one's within the light environ...ie, the clocks.
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General Relativity

Einstein went on to discover a more general theory of relativity which explained gravity in terms of curved spacetime, and he talked about the speed of light changing in this new theory. In the 1920 book "Relativity: the special and general theory" he wrote: . . . according to the general theory of relativity, the law of the constancy of the velocity of light in vacuo, which constitutes one of the two fundamental assumptions in the special theory of relativity [. . .] cannot claim any unlimited validity. A curvature of rays of light can only take place when the velocity of propagation of light varies with position. Since Einstein talks of velocity (a vector quantity: speed with direction) rather than speed alone, it is not clear that he meant the speed will change, but the reference to special relativity suggests that he did mean so. This interpretation is perfectly valid and makes good physical sense, but a more modern interpretation is that the speed of light is constant in general relativity.

[link to math.ucr.edu]


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I just don't get this. Remember the observation rule. No matter the speed or position of the observer, light always appears to be traveling at c velocity to that observer.

So, we are seeing an effect outside of its environs, as we are not the initial observer of the 'clocks'. The initial observer of the clocks are the one's within the light environ...ie, the clocks.
 Quoting: SickScent


In special relativity, the speed of light is constant when measured in any inertial frame. In general relativity, the appropriate generalisation is that the speed of light is constant in any freely falling reference frame (in a region small enough that tidal effects can be neglected).
[link to math.ucr.edu]


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So, the way I describe light is validated. Light exists everywhere, it is just in the 'background' of everything. When we measure light, we are not measuring 'light' because it is a constant. It is the make-up of everything, we just can't see it in the background, because we can't see anything that is super-luminal.

It is the manifested mass of aether that allows a 'break' in the window and allows light to shine through. NOT COME THROUGH, as it already exists everywhere and is everything. The Orphic Egg Dionysian just referenced is a 'kind of' visualization of the structure/function that allows light to be 'seen'.

gaah

This is part of Walter Russell's thoughts...but we are at the quantum mass manifestation level, and I am describing it as if it is already a manifestation of mass.

There needs to be words to describe this process better, this vision I have, which I believe parallels what Walter envisioned.

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