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Marko Rodin - Smart Lazer Technology

 
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Awakened to thoughts of hypotenuse, having very low physical energy nestled up with a little book called stumbling on happiness by Daniel Gilbert ...was immediately whacked on the head with F Bacon quote about the invisible from novum organum... to too many synchonicities to expound.... some Sophia wisdom crossed my path thought I'd post it here...like bans do anything...LOL...unless of course they're banning books...(shakes head).... [link to sophialeadership.com]

Does absence really make the heart grow fonder?
hf
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no absence does not make the heart grow fonder, nor does it dissipate
i notice
if original "desire" hits the spot, it remains as it arrived

i feel the same with people, if the connect "fits" , it always fits, no matter what passes between "fittings"

solely depends upon the two`s awareness of each other
it seems to me
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i was aware throughout and after, same as i am now
the sensation is participant thus the emotions i recount of hers were caused by me , shared, because she caused me to experience similar emotions caused by her
voyeur?
maybe
because it was her physical and emotional expressions that emotionally satisfied me
 Quoting: aether nli 5300916


This is strange, thought it should not be. Maybe it is strange because this was discussed a while ago now.

But, my memory is a voyeuristic type memory, which is parallel to what you explain, aether.

I do not remember it merely being me having the sensations and the interaction. I remember it outside of myself as well.
 Quoting: SickScent


I honestly think you folks are seeing the future, not another plane, just a re manifestation of form conciousness, perhaps over and above what these forms cannot project or balance. Is it a possible future or one set in stone is purely conjecture on my part.

Who is to say we don't leap back and forth in form as lessons in conciousness are meted out?
 Quoting: Dionysian Fullaflatus


I think that is a likely possibility. But, so are a number of other scenarios. So, who knows.
 Quoting: SickScent


Ahhh, that is so Hassan E Sabbah of you. Cheers ;)
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This is strange, thought it should not be. Maybe it is strange because this was discussed a while ago now.

But, my memory is a voyeuristic type memory, which is parallel to what you explain, aether.

I do not remember it merely being me having the sensations and the interaction. I remember it outside of myself as well.
 Quoting: SickScent


I honestly think you folks are seeing the future, not another plane, just a re manifestation of form conciousness, perhaps over and above what these forms cannot project or balance. Is it a possible future or one set in stone is purely conjecture on my part.

Who is to say we don't leap back and forth in form as lessons in conciousness are meted out?
 Quoting: Dionysian Fullaflatus


I think that is a likely possibility. But, so are a number of other scenarios. So, who knows.
 Quoting: SickScent


Ahhh, that is so Hassan E Sabbah of you. Cheers ;)
 Quoting: Dionysian Fullaflatus


cruise

My Google search has been very active figuring out your replies, Dionysian!

BTW, that is not a slam at all. I love learning all this stuff!
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Hassan-i Sabbah

According to polemical accounts which would evolve into popular legend, a future assassin was subjected to rites very similar to those of other mystery cults in which the subject was made to believe that he was in imminent danger of death. But the twist of the assassins was that they drugged the person to simulate a "dying" to later have them awaken in a garden flowing with wine and served a sumptuous feast by virgins. The supplicant was then convinced he was in Heaven and that Sabbah was a representative of the divinity and that all of his orders should be followed, even to death

Other accounts of the indoctrination attest that the future assassins were brought to Alamut at a young age and, while they matured, inhabited the aforementioned paradisical gardens and were kept drugged with hashish; as in the previous version, Hassan occupied this garden as a divine emissary. At a certain point (when their initiation could be said to have begun) the drug was withdrawn from them, and they were removed from the gardens and flung into a dungeon. There they were informed that, if they wished to return to the paradise they had so recently enjoyed it would be at Sabbah's discretion, and that they must therefore follow his directions exactly, up to and including murder and self-sacrifice
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Hassan-i Sabbah

According to polemical accounts which would evolve into popular legend, a future assassin was subjected to rites very similar to those of other mystery cults in which the subject was made to believe that he was in imminent danger of death. But the twist of the assassins was that they drugged the person to simulate a "dying" to later have them awaken in a garden flowing with wine and served a sumptuous feast by virgins. The supplicant was then convinced he was in Heaven and that Sabbah was a representative of the divinity and that all of his orders should be followed, even to death

Other accounts of the indoctrination attest that the future assassins were brought to Alamut at a young age and, while they matured, inhabited the aforementioned paradisical gardens and were kept drugged with hashish; as in the previous version, Hassan occupied this garden as a divine emissary. At a certain point (when their initiation could be said to have begun) the drug was withdrawn from them, and they were removed from the gardens and flung into a dungeon. There they were informed that, if they wished to return to the paradise they had so recently enjoyed it would be at Sabbah's discretion, and that they must therefore follow his directions exactly, up to and including murder and self-sacrifice
 Quoting: observation

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clever
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Awakened to thoughts of hypotenuse, having very low physical energy nestled up with a little book called stumbling on happiness by Daniel Gilbert ...was immediately whacked on the head with F Bacon quote about the invisible from novum organum... to too many synchonicities to expound.... some Sophia wisdom crossed my path thought I'd post it here...like bans do anything...LOL...unless of course they're banning books...(shakes head).... [link to sophialeadership.com]

Does absence really make the heart grow fonder?
hf
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 5570690


no absence does not make the heart grow fonder, nor does it dissipate
i notice
if original "desire" hits the spot, it remains as it arrived

i feel the same with people, if the connect "fits" , it always fits, no matter what passes between "fittings"

solely depends upon the two`s awareness of each other
it seems to me
 Quoting: aether nli 5300916


I like your answer, it fits... :~)

I was prompted to ask pondering Gilbert's disscusion how the the absence of something can be most important in understanding, but like many optical illusions trick the mind...that's where the paying attention while looking and or feeling come in...immediately made mind heart eye connection :)
hugshugscheer
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I honestly think you folks are seeing the future, not another plane, just a re manifestation of form conciousness, perhaps over and above what these forms cannot project or balance. Is it a possible future or one set in stone is purely conjecture on my part.

Who is to say we don't leap back and forth in form as lessons in conciousness are meted out?
 Quoting: Dionysian Fullaflatus


I think that is a likely possibility. But, so are a number of other scenarios. So, who knows.
 Quoting: SickScent


Ahhh, that is so Hassan E Sabbah of you. Cheers ;)
 Quoting: Dionysian Fullaflatus


cruise

My Google search has been very active figuring out your replies, Dionysian!

BTW, that is not a slam at all. I love learning all this stuff!
 Quoting: SickScent


No worries, My entire point is always to get folks to come to an understanding rather than to put weight to my words. As the Ideas have little to do with me.

My favorite H E S quote, as used by William S as the precursor to Naked Lunch was: Nothing is True Everything is allowed.

On that note, time to incapacitate some dervishes and go stumble around in the dark for a bit.

I'll check in in a bit.
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Awakened to thoughts of hypotenuse, having very low physical energy nestled up with a little book called stumbling on happiness by Daniel Gilbert ...was immediately whacked on the head with F Bacon quote about the invisible from novum organum... to too many synchonicities to expound.... some Sophia wisdom crossed my path thought I'd post it here...like bans do anything...LOL...unless of course they're banning books...(shakes head).... [link to sophialeadership.com]

Does absence really make the heart grow fonder?
hf
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 5570690


no absence does not make the heart grow fonder, nor does it dissipate
i notice
if original "desire" hits the spot, it remains as it arrived

i feel the same with people, if the connect "fits" , it always fits, no matter what passes between "fittings"

solely depends upon the two`s awareness of each other
it seems to me
 Quoting: aether nli 5300916


I like your answer, it fits... :~)

I was prompted to ask pondering Gilbert's disscusion how the the absence of something can be most important in understanding, but like many optical illusions trick the mind...that's where the paying attention while looking and or feeling come in...immediately made mind heart eye connection :)
hugshugscheer
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you feel nice
thanks *smile*
i can`t post symbols *hug*
or music
and you have prompted me to desire doing both *hug*
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Que sera sera eh...

;)
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Well I'm technically challenged on this phone no internet...hunt and peck typing is tedious and cutting and pasting and managing windows is at best very slow... above post w.s. ref
*smile*
lol the joker inside just whispered *and all aboard*
peace
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Well I'm technically challenged on this phone no internet...hunt and peck typing is tedious and cutting and pasting and managing windows is at best very slow... above post w.s. ref
*smile*
lol the joker inside just whispered *and all aboard*
peace
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peace
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whoa!!!!
see what the joker does
A SYMBOL
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whoa!!!!
see what the joker does
A SYMBOL
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Did a big whoa too...pigeons, Guggenheim, Tesla, parks
Gee I hope its the good ship lollipop...motives...and Shakespeare... and that problem play all's well that ends well...and do ends justify means or are they just mean?
hf
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whoa!!!!
see what the joker does
A SYMBOL
 Quoting: aether nli 5300916


Did a big whoa too...pigeons, Guggenheim, Tesla, parks
Gee I hope its the good ship lollipop...motives...and Shakespeare... and that problem play all's well that ends well...and do ends justify means or are they just mean?
hf
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a wonderful grouping of critical forces that form vital ingredients within our beautifully forming expression of living (lifestyle)

"ends justify means" is a human expression with 0 connection to nature , as in:
unnatural
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i don`t think this is my imagination.
listening to cern, los alamos and nasa i keep detecting they are debating a "problem" that they each have been aware off for a long time.

Force

In physics, a force is any influence that causes an object to undergo a change in speed, a change in direction, or a change in shape. In other words, a force is that which can cause an object with mass to change its velocity (which includes to begin moving from a state of rest), i.e., to accelerate, or which can cause a flexible object to deform. Force can also be described by intuitive concepts such as a push or pull. A force has both magnitude and direction, making it a vector quantity. Newton's second law, F = ma, was originally formulated in slightly different, but equivalent terms: the original version states that the net force acting upon an object is equal to the rate at which its momentum changes
 Quoting: observation

[link to en.wikipedia.org]

now awareness of force arose with newton and it appears another word was added to is called vector

Vector (mathematics and physics)

Euclidean vector, a geometric entity endowed with magnitude and direction as well as a positive-definite inner product; an element of a Euclidean vector space. In physics, euclidean vectors are used to represent physical quantities that have both magnitude and direction, such as force, in contrast to scalar quantities, which have no direction.
 Quoting: observation

[link to en.wikipedia.org]

Euclidean vector

In elementary mathematics, physics, and engineering, a Euclidean vector (sometimes called a geometric or spatial vector, or – as here – simply a vector) is a geometric object that has a magnitude (or length) and direction and can be added according to the parallelogram law of addition.
 Quoting: observation

[link to en.wikipedia.org]

it seems to me for several hundred years now humankind has observed and experienced non material cause(s) forming material effects and has indeed utilized this reality into their awareness

what they have failed to do is account for the cause(s) in an acceptable manner that fits their beliefs

the mechanical belief can not discover the physical answer it requires to confirm their belief

the abraham belief that god created the universe thus is separate from it desire a mechanism that is mechanical to but can not discover it because the alternative is god is the universe

which would be lovely except for the fact that the abraham belief is this universe is faulty and will destroyed by god and a perfect one re- created and we can`t have god destroying it`self or be declared faulty

in the meantime the reality of our non material dimension(s) (cause(s)) are very well know

if you notice , when you add "transfer of information" to what is the now well known observed and experienced action(s) of the sub atomic fabric of our material reality, the answer stares you in the face
but
that makes out universe intelligent, conscious, thus god and worse!

it demands we accept ourselves as living expressions of god
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Awakened to thoughts of hypotenuse, having very low physical energy nestled up with a little book called stumbling on happiness by Daniel Gilbert ...was immediately whacked on the head with F Bacon quote about the invisible from novum organum... to too many synchonicities to expound.... some Sophia wisdom crossed my path thought I'd post it here...like bans do anything...LOL...unless of course they're banning books...(shakes head).... [link to sophialeadership.com]

Does absence really make the heart grow fonder?
hf
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 5570690


no absence does not make the heart grow fonder, nor does it dissipate
i notice
if original "desire" hits the spot, it remains as it arrived

i feel the same with people, if the connect "fits" , it always fits, no matter what passes between "fittings"

solely depends upon the two`s awareness of each other
it seems to me
 Quoting: aether nli 5300916


I like your answer, it fits... :~)

I was prompted to ask pondering Gilbert's disscusion how the the absence of something can be most important in understanding, but like many optical illusions trick the mind...that's where the paying attention while looking and or feeling come in...immediately made mind heart eye connection :)
hugshugscheer
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you feel nice
thanks *smile*
i can`t post symbols *hug*
or music
and you have prompted me to desire doing both *hug*
 Quoting: aether nli 5300916


yea...it sucks don't it?

remember all the times you did not really care because you had not been prompted...only in what interest you? Remember me telling you...this affects each and everyone? Best "hope" it all works out...
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I honestly think you folks are seeing the future, not another plane, just a re manifestation of form conciousness, perhaps over and above what these forms cannot project or balance. Is it a possible future or one set in stone is purely conjecture on my part.

Who is to say we don't leap back and forth in form as lessons in conciousness are meted out?
 Quoting: dion


funny how you get that right

the mantis believe my personality fits their expression of life and they desire i form mantis following my deformation as human
their belief was consummated in her and i`s union

very likely i will form mantis upon my deformation (death) thus within 3 earth days of that event i will be the conception (reform) within the union of 2 mantis somewhere in our universe probably not within this galaxy

if not this coming deformation, because i have at present no clue of my mood at deformation, i will at some point

this i know
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yea...it sucks don't it?

remember all the times you did not really care because you had not been prompted...only in what interest you? Remember me telling you...this affects each and everyone? Best "hope" it all works out...
 Quoting: ac


i know , remember i possess motive thus i am always aware it effects each and everyone

homeopathy springs to mind

it will work out well
there is 0 possibility of it not
translation of "well" varies over distance (time)
naturally
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i don`t think this is my imagination.
listening to cern, los alamos and nasa i keep detecting they are debating a "problem" that they each have been aware off for a long time.

Force

In physics, a force is any influence that causes an object to undergo a change in speed, a change in direction, or a change in shape. In other words, a force is that which can cause an object with mass to change its velocity (which includes to begin moving from a state of rest), i.e., to accelerate, or which can cause a flexible object to deform. Force can also be described by intuitive concepts such as a push or pull. A force has both magnitude and direction, making it a vector quantity. Newton's second law, F = ma, was originally formulated in slightly different, but equivalent terms: the original version states that the net force acting upon an object is equal to the rate at which its momentum changes
 Quoting: observation

[link to en.wikipedia.org]

now awareness of force arose with newton and it appears another word was added to is called vector

Vector (mathematics and physics)

Euclidean vector, a geometric entity endowed with magnitude and direction as well as a positive-definite inner product; an element of a Euclidean vector space. In physics, euclidean vectors are used to represent physical quantities that have both magnitude and direction, such as force, in contrast to scalar quantities, which have no direction.
 Quoting: observation

[link to en.wikipedia.org]

Euclidean vector

In elementary mathematics, physics, and engineering, a Euclidean vector (sometimes called a geometric or spatial vector, or – as here – simply a vector) is a geometric object that has a magnitude (or length) and direction and can be added according to the parallelogram law of addition.
 Quoting: observation

[link to en.wikipedia.org]

it seems to me for several hundred years now humankind has observed and experienced non material cause(s) forming material effects and has indeed utilized this reality into their awareness

what they have failed to do is account for the cause(s) in an acceptable manner that fits their beliefs

the mechanical belief can not discover the physical answer it requires to confirm their belief

the abraham belief that god created the universe thus is separate from it desire a mechanism that is mechanical to but can not discover it because the alternative is god is the universe

which would be lovely except for the fact that the abraham belief is this universe is faulty and will destroyed by god and a perfect one re- created and we can`t have god destroying it`self or be declared faulty

in the meantime the reality of our non material dimension(s) (cause(s)) are very well know

if you notice , when you add "transfer of information" to what is the now well known observed and experienced action(s) of the sub atomic fabric of our material reality, the answer stares you in the face
but
that makes out universe intelligent, conscious, thus god and worse!

it demands we accept ourselves as living expressions of god
 Quoting: aether nli 5300916


As Above So Below. We see what we make ourselves ready to see and anything that doesn't fit is discarded as an ill defined consequence or leftover artifact.

However, If it all doesn't fit to a remainder of 0 or near null. IMO, You are only seeing an rationalized illusion (maya). In interconnectedness there are no leftovers.
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As Above So Below. We see what we make ourselves ready to see and anything that doesn't fit is discarded as an ill defined consequence or leftover artifact.

However, If it all doesn't fit to a remainder of 0 or near null. IMO, You are only seeing an rationalized illusion (maya). In interconnectedness there are no leftovers.
 Quoting: dion


upon the fit leaving 0 remainder awareness that matter (maya) is the motive of the motive manifests

this reverses the direction of human awareness which formed in the opposite direction to natures, the consequence of our adjustment to the loss of our golden age environment
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As Above So Below. We see what we make ourselves ready to see and anything that doesn't fit is discarded as an ill defined consequence or leftover artifact.

However, If it all doesn't fit to a remainder of 0 or near null. IMO, You are only seeing an rationalized illusion (maya). In interconnectedness there are no leftovers.
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upon the fit leaving 0 remainder awareness that matter (maya) is the motive of the motive manifests

this reverses the direction of human awareness which formed in the opposite direction to natures, the consequence of our adjustment to the loss of our golden age environment
 Quoting: aether nli 5300916


All direction is misdirection. Now and here flow everywhere. We are just creating forms to fill the need of rational materialists that exist in and about us. An offering if you will. Something for the ghosts of mind to chew on.
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[Quoter:dion]All direction is misdirection. Now and here flow everywhere. We are just creating forms to fill the need of rational materialists that exist in and about us. An offering if you will. Something for the ghosts of mind to chew on.

well if all direction is misdirection there is no direction to go in
more importantly there could there could never exist the medium (dimension) for direction to exist within

there could and would only have existed 0 (no thing)

"recent thoughts" arose to make sense of the collective loss of our awareness of direction and dimension

thoughts that to satisfy our collective remembered history expressed as thus:

According to the Cheyenne of North America the original race roamed naked, innocent and free, enjoying the natural abundance of an eternal spring. What followed, however, was an age of flood, war, and famine.

The Caribs of Surinam have a poignant memory of this fortunate epoch. "In a time long past, so long past that even the grandmothers of our grandmothers were not yet born," they say, "the world was quite other than what it is today: the trees were forever in fruit; the animals lived in perfect harmony, and the little agouti played fearlessly with the beard of the jaguar "

The South American Indians of Gran Chaco and Amazonia recall this as the Happy Place, where work was unknown because the fields produced abundance of their own accord.

The Hopi Indians proclaim that in the earliest time they were a marvelously contented race, at peace with their brothers. They knew nothing of sickness or conflict, and all things were provided by Mother Earth without any requirement of labor.

The aborigines of Australia insist that their first ancestors enjoyed a Golden Age, a Paradise of abundant game and without conflict of any kind.

Northern Europeans once celebrated this earliest age as the "Peace of Frodi," a mythical Danish king. Throughout this peaceful epoch no man injured another and a magical mill ground out peace and plenty for the entire land.

Memories of a Golden Age pervade the myths of Africa. The distinguished folklorist Herman Baumann reported that "Everything that happened in the primal age was different from today. People understood the language of animals and lived at peace with them; they knew no labor and had food in plenitude."

Sacred texts of ancient India recall this as the Krita Yuga or "Perfect Age," without disease, labor, suffering or war. The Iranians called it the age of the brilliant Yima, an age with "neither cold nor heat," an eternal spring.

According to ancient Chinese lore, the purest pleasure and tranquillity once reigned throughout the world. Mythical histories called it "the Age of Perfect Virtue" and declared that "the whole creation enjoyed a state of happiness. . . all things grew without labor; and a universal fertility prevailed."

the ancient Sumerians contrasted their own time to the earliest remembered age--what they called "the days of old," or "that day," when the gods "gave man abundance, the day when vegetation flourished." This was when the supreme god An "engendered the year of abundance." To this primeval age, every Sumerian priest looked back as the reference for the preferred order of things, which
was lost through later conflict and deluge.

In the city of Eridu at the mouth of the Euphrates, the priests recalled a Golden Age prior to familiar history. The predecessors of their race, it was claimed, had formerly reposed in the paradise of Dilmun, called the "Pure Place" of man's genesis. This lost paradise of Dilmun, about which scholars have debated for decades, is strangely reminiscent of the paradise of Eden.

"That place was pure, that place was clean. In Dilmun...the lion mangled not. The wolf ravaged not the lambs," the Sumerian texts read. The inhabitants of this paradise lived in a state of near perfection, in communion with the gods, drinking the waters of life and enjoying unbounded prosperity.

Ancient Egypt, an acknowledged cradle of civilization, preserved a remarkably similar memory. Not just in their religious and mythical texts, but in every sacred activity, the Egyptians incessantly looked backwards, to events of the Zep Tepi. The phrase means the "First Time," a time of perfection "before rage or clamor or strife or uproar had come about," as the texts themselves put it. This was the paradise of Ra, and the memories of that time echoed through centuries of Egyptian thought. "The land was in abundance," the texts say. "There was no year of hunger. . .Walls did not fall; thorns did not pierce in the time of the Primeval Gods."

Or from another text: "there was no unrighteousness in the land, no crocodile seized, no snake bit in the time of the First Gods."

According to the great nineteenth century scholar Francois Lenormant, the Egyptians "continually looked back with regret and envy." The golden age of Ra was, for the Egyptians, the great "example" setting a standard for all later ages.
 Quoting: history


clearly a location(time) when both direction, dimension and our awareness of matter (maya) was substantially different to the thinkers of a few thousand years ago saddled with the burden of explaination
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[Quoter:dion]All direction is misdirection. Now and here flow everywhere. We are just creating forms to fill the need of rational materialists that exist in and about us. An offering if you will. Something for the ghosts of mind to chew on.
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well if all direction is misdirection there is no direction to go in
more importantly there could there could never exist the medium (dimension) for direction to exist within

there could and would only have existed 0 (no thing)

"recent thoughts" arose to make sense of the collective loss of our awareness of direction and dimension

thoughts that to satisfy our collective remembered history expressed as thus:

According to the Cheyenne of North America the original race roamed naked, innocent and free, enjoying the natural abundance of an eternal spring. What followed, however, was an age of flood, war, and famine.

The Caribs of Surinam have a poignant memory of this fortunate epoch. "In a time long past, so long past that even the grandmothers of our grandmothers were not yet born," they say, "the world was quite other than what it is today: the trees were forever in fruit; the animals lived in perfect harmony, and the little agouti played fearlessly with the beard of the jaguar "

The South American Indians of Gran Chaco and Amazonia recall this as the Happy Place, where work was unknown because the fields produced abundance of their own accord.

The Hopi Indians proclaim that in the earliest time they were a marvelously contented race, at peace with their brothers. They knew nothing of sickness or conflict, and all things were provided by Mother Earth without any requirement of labor.

The aborigines of Australia insist that their first ancestors enjoyed a Golden Age, a Paradise of abundant game and without conflict of any kind.

Northern Europeans once celebrated this earliest age as the "Peace of Frodi," a mythical Danish king. Throughout this peaceful epoch no man injured another and a magical mill ground out peace and plenty for the entire land.

Memories of a Golden Age pervade the myths of Africa. The distinguished folklorist Herman Baumann reported that "Everything that happened in the primal age was different from today. People understood the language of animals and lived at peace with them; they knew no labor and had food in plenitude."

Sacred texts of ancient India recall this as the Krita Yuga or "Perfect Age," without disease, labor, suffering or war. The Iranians called it the age of the brilliant Yima, an age with "neither cold nor heat," an eternal spring.

According to ancient Chinese lore, the purest pleasure and tranquillity once reigned throughout the world. Mythical histories called it "the Age of Perfect Virtue" and declared that "the whole creation enjoyed a state of happiness. . . all things grew without labor; and a universal fertility prevailed."

the ancient Sumerians contrasted their own time to the earliest remembered age--what they called "the days of old," or "that day," when the gods "gave man abundance, the day when vegetation flourished." This was when the supreme god An "engendered the year of abundance." To this primeval age, every Sumerian priest looked back as the reference for the preferred order of things, which
was lost through later conflict and deluge.

In the city of Eridu at the mouth of the Euphrates, the priests recalled a Golden Age prior to familiar history. The predecessors of their race, it was claimed, had formerly reposed in the paradise of Dilmun, called the "Pure Place" of man's genesis. This lost paradise of Dilmun, about which scholars have debated for decades, is strangely reminiscent of the paradise of Eden.

"That place was pure, that place was clean. In Dilmun...the lion mangled not. The wolf ravaged not the lambs," the Sumerian texts read. The inhabitants of this paradise lived in a state of near perfection, in communion with the gods, drinking the waters of life and enjoying unbounded prosperity.

Ancient Egypt, an acknowledged cradle of civilization, preserved a remarkably similar memory. Not just in their religious and mythical texts, but in every sacred activity, the Egyptians incessantly looked backwards, to events of the Zep Tepi. The phrase means the "First Time," a time of perfection "before rage or clamor or strife or uproar had come about," as the texts themselves put it. This was the paradise of Ra, and the memories of that time echoed through centuries of Egyptian thought. "The land was in abundance," the texts say. "There was no year of hunger. . .Walls did not fall; thorns did not pierce in the time of the Primeval Gods."

Or from another text: "there was no unrighteousness in the land, no crocodile seized, no snake bit in the time of the First Gods."

According to the great nineteenth century scholar Francois Lenormant, the Egyptians "continually looked back with regret and envy." The golden age of Ra was, for the Egyptians, the great "example" setting a standard for all later ages.
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clearly a location(time) when both direction, dimension and our awareness of matter (maya) was substantially different to the thinkers of a few thousand years ago saddled with the burden of explaination
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[Quoter:dion]All direction is misdirection. Now and here flow everywhere. We are just creating forms to fill the need of rational materialists that exist in and about us. An offering if you will. Something for the ghosts of mind to chew on.
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well if all direction is misdirection there is no direction to go in
more importantly there could there could never exist the medium (dimension) for direction to exist within

there could and would only have existed 0 (no thing)

"recent thoughts" arose to make sense of the collective loss of our awareness of direction and dimension

thoughts that to satisfy our collective remembered history expressed as thus:

According to the Cheyenne of North America the original race roamed naked, innocent and free, enjoying the natural abundance of an eternal spring. What followed, however, was an age of flood, war, and famine.

The Caribs of Surinam have a poignant memory of this fortunate epoch. "In a time long past, so long past that even the grandmothers of our grandmothers were not yet born," they say, "the world was quite other than what it is today: the trees were forever in fruit; the animals lived in perfect harmony, and the little agouti played fearlessly with the beard of the jaguar "

The South American Indians of Gran Chaco and Amazonia recall this as the Happy Place, where work was unknown because the fields produced abundance of their own accord.

The Hopi Indians proclaim that in the earliest time they were a marvelously contented race, at peace with their brothers. They knew nothing of sickness or conflict, and all things were provided by Mother Earth without any requirement of labor.

The aborigines of Australia insist that their first ancestors enjoyed a Golden Age, a Paradise of abundant game and without conflict of any kind.

Northern Europeans once celebrated this earliest age as the "Peace of Frodi," a mythical Danish king. Throughout this peaceful epoch no man injured another and a magical mill ground out peace and plenty for the entire land.

Memories of a Golden Age pervade the myths of Africa. The distinguished folklorist Herman Baumann reported that "Everything that happened in the primal age was different from today. People understood the language of animals and lived at peace with them; they knew no labor and had food in plenitude."

Sacred texts of ancient India recall this as the Krita Yuga or "Perfect Age," without disease, labor, suffering or war. The Iranians called it the age of the brilliant Yima, an age with "neither cold nor heat," an eternal spring.

According to ancient Chinese lore, the purest pleasure and tranquillity once reigned throughout the world. Mythical histories called it "the Age of Perfect Virtue" and declared that "the whole creation enjoyed a state of happiness. . . all things grew without labor; and a universal fertility prevailed."

the ancient Sumerians contrasted their own time to the earliest remembered age--what they called "the days of old," or "that day," when the gods "gave man abundance, the day when vegetation flourished." This was when the supreme god An "engendered the year of abundance." To this primeval age, every Sumerian priest looked back as the reference for the preferred order of things, which
was lost through later conflict and deluge.

In the city of Eridu at the mouth of the Euphrates, the priests recalled a Golden Age prior to familiar history. The predecessors of their race, it was claimed, had formerly reposed in the paradise of Dilmun, called the "Pure Place" of man's genesis. This lost paradise of Dilmun, about which scholars have debated for decades, is strangely reminiscent of the paradise of Eden.

"That place was pure, that place was clean. In Dilmun...the lion mangled not. The wolf ravaged not the lambs," the Sumerian texts read. The inhabitants of this paradise lived in a state of near perfection, in communion with the gods, drinking the waters of life and enjoying unbounded prosperity.

Ancient Egypt, an acknowledged cradle of civilization, preserved a remarkably similar memory. Not just in their religious and mythical texts, but in every sacred activity, the Egyptians incessantly looked backwards, to events of the Zep Tepi. The phrase means the "First Time," a time of perfection "before rage or clamor or strife or uproar had come about," as the texts themselves put it. This was the paradise of Ra, and the memories of that time echoed through centuries of Egyptian thought. "The land was in abundance," the texts say. "There was no year of hunger. . .Walls did not fall; thorns did not pierce in the time of the Primeval Gods."

Or from another text: "there was no unrighteousness in the land, no crocodile seized, no snake bit in the time of the First Gods."

According to the great nineteenth century scholar Francois Lenormant, the Egyptians "continually looked back with regret and envy." The golden age of Ra was, for the Egyptians, the great "example" setting a standard for all later ages.
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clearly a location(time) when both direction, dimension and our awareness of matter (maya) was substantially different to the thinkers of a few thousand years ago saddled with the burden of explaination
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You are taking me too literally. Your rebuttal is absolutely true with imperfect conciousness. As we must describe (kill) an object to fit it into perception.

When everything flows (thus removing impediments (dams) everywhere is here and the universe is dynamic). It all becomes ineffable and timeless. This is why golden ages are lost, there is a different material reality, thus we succor ghosts with offerings to material reality and create quite the opposite.

A language of inversion. Look at the mobius strip as a mirror of visualization with null at middle. It will be a time of feeling with material knowing as the periphery.

This is why we are left with symbols which we must fill and invert, thus the inside becomes out and flow and balance are reestablished.

Damn my head hurts.

Don't fight my words, let them either become fluid or they fail.
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You are taking me too literally. Your rebuttal is absolutely true with imperfect conciousness. As we must describe (kill) an object to fit it into perception.

When everything flows (thus removing impediments (dams) everywhere is here and the universe is dynamic). It all becomes ineffable and timeless. This is why golden ages are lost, there is a different material reality, thus we succor ghosts with offerings to material reality and create quite the opposite.

A language of inversion. Look at the mobius strip as a mirror of visualization with null at middle. It will be a time of feeling with material knowing as the periphery.

This is why we are left with symbols which we must fill and invert, thus the inside becomes out and flow and balance are reestablished.

Damn my head hurts.

Don't fight my words, let them either become fluid or they fail.
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i know *smile*


"there is a different material reality"

okay
fluid it is
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lol, check this story from today out, aether.

Former NASA specialist claims he was fired over intelligent design
Its latest mission is defending itself in a workplace lawsuit filed by a former computer specialist who claims he was demoted -- and then let go -- for promoting his views on intelligent design, the belief that a higher power must have had a hand in creation because life is too complex to have developed through evolution alone.

[link to www.foxnews.com]
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You are taking me too literally. Your rebuttal is absolutely true with imperfect conciousness. As we must describe (kill) an object to fit it into perception.

When everything flows (thus removing impediments (dams) everywhere is here and the universe is dynamic). It all becomes ineffable and timeless. This is why golden ages are lost, there is a different material reality, thus we succor ghosts with offerings to material reality and create quite the opposite.

A language of inversion. Look at the mobius strip as a mirror of visualization with null at middle. It will be a time of feeling with material knowing as the periphery.

This is why we are left with symbols which we must fill and invert, thus the inside becomes out and flow and balance are reestablished.

Damn my head hurts.

Don't fight my words, let them either become fluid or they fail.
 Quoting: dion


i know *smile*


"there is a different material reality"

okay
fluid it is
 Quoting: aether nli 5300916


I'll try my damnedest to break on through; But, when the walls fall, I'll stay here as my meaning is just the chase. When I catch the lamb by its throat the games over and it's time to sleep and awaken to the itch again.

Even those words make me smile.
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whoa!!!!
see what the joker does
A SYMBOL
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Did a big whoa too...pigeons, Guggenheim, Tesla, parks
Gee I hope its the good ship lollipop...motives...and Shakespeare... and that problem play all's well that ends well...and do ends justify means or are they just mean?
hf
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a wonderful grouping of critical forces that form vital ingredients within our beautifully forming expression of living (lifestyle)

"ends justify means" is a human expression with 0 connection to nature , as in:
unnatural
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This brings me back to visions of Dostoyevsky. Crime and punishment was originally written with the intent that Raskolnikov better himself through murder and the murder was thus justified.

Dos.. upon writing the story let it dynamically follow it's own path and the end result was quite the opposite of what he intended. As life cannot be weighed without the knowledge of it's full potential regardless the bias.
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lol, check this story from today out, aether.

Former NASA specialist claims he was fired over intelligent design
Its latest mission is defending itself in a workplace lawsuit filed by a former computer specialist who claims he was demoted -- and then let go -- for promoting his views on intelligent design, the belief that a higher power must have had a hand in creation because life is too complex to have developed through evolution alone.

[link to www.foxnews.com]
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funny huh

great feedback!!
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whoa!!!!
see what the joker does
A SYMBOL
 Quoting: aether nli 5300916


Did a big whoa too...pigeons, Guggenheim, Tesla, parks
Gee I hope its the good ship lollipop...motives...and Shakespeare... and that problem play all's well that ends well...and do ends justify means or are they just mean?
hf
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a wonderful grouping of critical forces that form vital ingredients within our beautifully forming expression of living (lifestyle)

"ends justify means" is a human expression with 0 connection to nature , as in:
unnatural
 Quoting: aether nli 5300916


This brings me back to visions of Dostoyevsky. Crime and punishment was originally written with the intent that Raskolnikov better himself through murder and the murder was thus justified.

Dos.. upon writing the story let it dynamically follow it's own path and the end result was quite the opposite of what he intended. As life cannot be weighed without the knowledge of it's full potential regardless the bias.
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