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Full spiral with a twist:


The term derives from the Ancient Greek words, meta, meaning beyond or after, and noia, meaning perception or understanding or mind.
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It's just a clusterfuck period, lol. I see it as a desire to throw out the baby with the bathwater, doomerism, that is... It's not the civilization we want to see fall, it's the clusterfuckism of hierarchies and bureaucracy. They prevent the logos from communicating effectively with the bios. We're running out of sync and striving for sync and being held back by the paperwork and permission, lol. I don't think people want doom so much as a reconciliation of the logogram (soul) and the biogram (body).
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i`m detecting that more and more beau
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Exactly, We feel so disempowered by societal disconnects imposed on us by endless bureaucracies that the notion of fixing 'it' from within has collapsed and has manifested the want to have it all just go 'poof' so we can reconnect once again.

The energies are uniquely feminine and southern as we seek ground.

However, nothing needs to end as the sum of bureaucracy is nothing and thatis kept alive by twisting unto itself with self rationalizing rules. We already have the systems in place. The rulebook just must be rewritten.

Revolution is only in the best interests of criminals. The bloodier the more so.
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Which is why I'm being relatively quiet lately... don't want to add to the mountain of information when I seem to be repeating myself mostly. It's one of those hurry up and wait for the rest to catch up moments. I feel like a hare that's rooting for the tortoise and is unwilling to cross the line ahead, craving the feeling of beside/with instead of win/loss. Solidarity, I'm all in, with us; the seekers, the dreamers, the lovers, the prophets, the players :) Who cares if it's fate or free will or both? Now for the obligatory quote that sums it up, lol...

Dane "Jack Frost" MacGowan: Reynard and me would argue all the time in this little Indian restaurant they had in San Francisco. There was a picture of Bill Clinton on the wall. There's no difference between fate and free will. Here I am; put here, come here. No difference. Same thing. Nothing ends that isn't something else starting. So which side are you on? Do you know yet? Anyhow. I've said my bit and it's your go now... so while you're thinking about it, think about this... my mate Elfayed told me something when I was little and wanking about twenty times a day: "We made gods and jailers because we felt small and alone," he said. "We let them try us and judge us and, like lambs to the slaughter, we allowed ourselves to be... sentenced. See! Now! Our sentence is up."
 Quoting: From Grant Morrison's "The Invisibles"

 Quoting: Sacred Chao Herder


Triangulation is the name given to the act of a political candidate presenting his or her ideology as being "above" and "between" the "left" and "right" sides (or "wings") of a traditional (e.g. UK or US) democratic "political spectrum". It involves adopting for oneself some of the ideas of one's political opponent (or apparent opponent). The logic behind it is that it both takes credit for the opponent's ideas, and insulates the triangulator from attacks on that particular issue. Opponents of triangulation, who believe in a fundamental "left" and "right", consider the dynamic a deviation from its "reality" and dismiss those that strive for it as whimsical.
 Quoting: [link to en.wikipedia.org]

 Quoting: A Muse Me

Like a bird, two wings and a tail
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Which is why I'm being relatively quiet lately... don't want to add to the mountain of information when I seem to be repeating myself mostly. It's one of those hurry up and wait for the rest to catch up moments. I feel like a hare that's rooting for the tortoise and is unwilling to cross the line ahead, craving the feeling of beside/with instead of win/loss. Solidarity, I'm all in, with us; the seekers, the dreamers, the lovers, the prophets, the players :) Who cares if it's fate or free will or both? Now for the obligatory quote that sums it up, lol...

Dane "Jack Frost" MacGowan: Reynard and me would argue all the time in this little Indian restaurant they had in San Francisco. There was a picture of Bill Clinton on the wall. There's no difference between fate and free will. Here I am; put here, come here. No difference. Same thing. Nothing ends that isn't something else starting. So which side are you on? Do you know yet? Anyhow. I've said my bit and it's your go now... so while you're thinking about it, think about this... my mate Elfayed told me something when I was little and wanking about twenty times a day: "We made gods and jailers because we felt small and alone," he said. "We let them try us and judge us and, like lambs to the slaughter, we allowed ourselves to be... sentenced. See! Now! Our sentence is up."
 Quoting: From Grant Morrison's "The Invisibles"

 Quoting: Sacred Chao Herder


Triangulation is the name given to the act of a political candidate presenting his or her ideology as being "above" and "between" the "left" and "right" sides (or "wings") of a traditional (e.g. UK or US) democratic "political spectrum". It involves adopting for oneself some of the ideas of one's political opponent (or apparent opponent). The logic behind it is that it both takes credit for the opponent's ideas, and insulates the triangulator from attacks on that particular issue. Opponents of triangulation, who believe in a fundamental "left" and "right", consider the dynamic a deviation from its "reality" and dismiss those that strive for it as whimsical.
 Quoting: [link to en.wikipedia.org]

 Quoting: A Muse Me

Like a bird, two wings and a tail
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No. Like what is called ‘Clintonianism’. Who did it brilliantly with the ‘whimsical’. Except Dick Morris is an asshole, later working with David Axelrod, utilizing it in the Democratic Primaries of 2008 to get us this:


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Which is why I'm being relatively quiet lately... don't want to add to the mountain of information when I seem to be repeating myself mostly. It's one of those hurry up and wait for the rest to catch up moments. I feel like a hare that's rooting for the tortoise and is unwilling to cross the line ahead, craving the feeling of beside/with instead of win/loss. Solidarity, I'm all in, with us; the seekers, the dreamers, the lovers, the prophets, the players :) Who cares if it's fate or free will or both? Now for the obligatory quote that sums it up, lol...

...

 Quoting: Sacred Chao Herder


Triangulation is the name given to the act of a political candidate presenting his or her ideology as being "above" and "between" the "left" and "right" sides (or "wings") of a traditional (e.g. UK or US) democratic "political spectrum". It involves adopting for oneself some of the ideas of one's political opponent (or apparent opponent). The logic behind it is that it both takes credit for the opponent's ideas, and insulates the triangulator from attacks on that particular issue. Opponents of triangulation, who believe in a fundamental "left" and "right", consider the dynamic a deviation from its "reality" and dismiss those that strive for it as whimsical.
 Quoting: [link to en.wikipedia.org]

 Quoting: A Muse Me

Like a bird, two wings and a tail
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No. Like what is called ‘Clintonianism’. Who did it brilliantly with the ‘whimsical’. Except Dick Morris is an asshole, later working with David Axelrod, utilizing it in the Democratic Primaries of 2008 to get us this:


 Quoting: A Muse Me


Which then got us this:

Citizens United v. Federal Election Commission, 558 U.S. 08-205 (2010), 558 U.S. ––––, 130 S.Ct. 876 (January 21, 2010), was a landmark decision by the United States Supreme Court, which held that the First Amendment prohibited the government from restricting political expenditures by corporations and unions. The nonprofit corporation Citizens United wanted to air a film critical of Hillary Clinton and to advertise the film during television broadcasts in apparent violation of the 2002 Bipartisan Campaign Reform Act (commonly known as the McCain–Feingold Act).[2] In a 5-4 split decision, the Court decided that portions of BCRA §203 violated the First Amendment.
 Quoting: [link to en.wikipedia.org]

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Which is why I'm being relatively quiet lately... don't want to add to the mountain of information when I seem to be repeating myself mostly. It's one of those hurry up and wait for the rest to catch up moments. I feel like a hare that's rooting for the tortoise and is unwilling to cross the line ahead, craving the feeling of beside/with instead of win/loss. Solidarity, I'm all in, with us; the seekers, the dreamers, the lovers, the prophets, the players :) Who cares if it's fate or free will or both? Now for the obligatory quote that sums it up, lol...

...

 Quoting: Sacred Chao Herder


Triangulation is the name given to the act of a political candidate presenting his or her ideology as being "above" and "between" the "left" and "right" sides (or "wings") of a traditional (e.g. UK or US) democratic "political spectrum". It involves adopting for oneself some of the ideas of one's political opponent (or apparent opponent). The logic behind it is that it both takes credit for the opponent's ideas, and insulates the triangulator from attacks on that particular issue. Opponents of triangulation, who believe in a fundamental "left" and "right", consider the dynamic a deviation from its "reality" and dismiss those that strive for it as whimsical.
 Quoting: [link to en.wikipedia.org]

 Quoting: A Muse Me

Like a bird, two wings and a tail
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No. Like what is called ‘Clintonianism’. Who did it brilliantly with the ‘whimsical’. Except Dick Morris is an asshole, later working with David Axelrod, utilizing it in the Democratic Primaries of 2008 to get us this:


 Quoting: A Muse Me


Derp to me! Triangulation in context of politics.lol
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Like a bird, two wings and a tail
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No. Like what is called ‘Clintonianism’. Who did it brilliantly with the ‘whimsical’. Except Dick Morris is an asshole, later working with David Axelrod, utilizing it in the Democratic Primaries of 2008 to get us this:


 Quoting: A Muse Me


Which then got us this:

Citizens United v. Federal Election Commission, 558 U.S. 08-205 (2010), 558 U.S. ––––, 130 S.Ct. 876 (January 21, 2010), was a landmark decision by the United States Supreme Court, which held that the First Amendment prohibited the government from restricting political expenditures by corporations and unions. The nonprofit corporation Citizens United wanted to air a film critical of Hillary Clinton and to advertise the film during television broadcasts in apparent violation of the 2002 Bipartisan Campaign Reform Act (commonly known as the McCain–Feingold Act).[2] In a 5-4 split decision, the Court decided that portions of BCRA §203 violated the First Amendment.
 Quoting: [link to en.wikipedia.org]

 Quoting: A Muse Me


Which got us this.

Clusterfuck

What the morphed face of “Corporate Personhood” looks like.
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Like a bird, two wings and a tail
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No. Like what is called ‘Clintonianism’. Who did it brilliantly with the ‘whimsical’. Except Dick Morris is an asshole, later working with David Axelrod, utilizing it in the Democratic Primaries of 2008 to get us this:


 Quoting: A Muse Me


Which then got us this:

Citizens United v. Federal Election Commission, 558 U.S. 08-205 (2010), 558 U.S. ––––, 130 S.Ct. 876 (January 21, 2010), was a landmark decision by the United States Supreme Court, which held that the First Amendment prohibited the government from restricting political expenditures by corporations and unions. The nonprofit corporation Citizens United wanted to air a film critical of Hillary Clinton and to advertise the film during television broadcasts in apparent violation of the 2002 Bipartisan Campaign Reform Act (commonly known as the McCain–Feingold Act).[2] In a 5-4 split decision, the Court decided that portions of BCRA §203 violated the First Amendment.
 Quoting: [link to en.wikipedia.org]

 Quoting: A Muse Me


Which got us this.

Clusterfuck

What the morphed face of “Corporate Personhood” looks like.
 Quoting: A Muse Me


See it:

The Citizens United catastrophe
By E.J. Dionne Jr., Published: February 5, 2012

We have seen the world created by the Supreme Court’s Citizens United decision, and it doesn’t work. Oh, yes, it works nicely for the wealthiest and most powerful people in the country, especially if they want to shroud their efforts to influence politics behind shell corporations. It just doesn’t happen to work if you think we are a democracy and not a plutocracy.

Two years ago, Citizens United tore down a century’s worth of law aimed at reducing the amount of corruption in our electoral system. It will go down as one of the most naive decisions ever rendered by the court.
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What the morphed face of “Corporate Personhood” looks like.
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which replicates evangelist image of god/prosperity

or wealth without sin

Mitt Romney acknowledged yesterday that his tax rate is probably about 15 percent--lower than what many high-income families pay. Romney, whose net worth is estimated to be between $200 and $250 million, pays a lower tax rate because most of his income comes from investments instead of a salary.
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It is why I said a long time ago Ron Paul/Bernie Sanders ticket is the only thing that could shake it to its roots. Separate it all back out in a dialectical framework type way. Why Ron Paul will not switch to an Independent like Bernie and shake the tree up is my issue with him. Enough politics from me though...lol
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What the morphed face of “Corporate Personhood” looks like.
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which replicates evangelist image of god/prosperity

or wealth without sin

Mitt Romney acknowledged yesterday that his tax rate is probably about 15 percent--lower than what many high-income families pay. Romney, whose net worth is estimated to be between $200 and $250 million, pays a lower tax rate because most of his income comes from investments instead of a salary.
 Quoting: observation

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I'm quite sure there's only one man running who doesn't worship Mammon. You know... the one they try to bury and hide? The one who rambles on and on like we do, looking at the root causes, the implications, the consequences before making some knee-jerk, feel good, four easy payments of 19.99 statement that means little... while they institute even more back-end clusterfuckism to hide their graft and corruption.
"Chaos exists as a pool of possibilities that order draws from and organizes according to creative desire. Some things get tossed down the memory hole only to reemerge later when the need arises. Neither chaos nor order holds a monopoly on creation and destruction, creative or destructive chaos exists as does creative and destructive order." - ME! Yeah, Bea :) snoocherdoodle@gmail.com
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It is why I said a long time ago Ron Paul/Bernie Sanders ticket is the only thing that could shake it to its roots. Separate it all back out in a dialectical framework type way. Why Ron Paul will not switch to an Independent like Bernie and shake the tree up is my issue with him. Enough politics from me though...lol
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I think the same...I told my husband last year, if there was ever a time an Independent could win...it would be now.
Our forefathers discouraged the split...or one did I remember has a famous about it...my intuition says he needs to run Independent...
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It is why I said a long time ago Ron Paul/Bernie Sanders ticket is the only thing that could shake it to its roots. Separate it all back out in a dialectical framework type way. Why Ron Paul will not switch to an Independent like Bernie and shake the tree up is my issue with him. Enough politics from me though...lol
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This is what got missed by the so called left in 2008 by buying brand Hopey-Changey, whom shamelessly stole “We are the ones we have been waiting for” from the Hopi.

In the new introduction to No Logo, Klein denounces Obama as little more than a neocon who has wrapped himself in the branding of truly transformative political movements. Shamelessly helping itself to the iconography of Che Guevara, the rhetorical cadences of Martin Luther King, and the “Yes We Can” slogan of Latin American migrant workers, the Obama brand is just as hollow and inauthentic, as far as Klein is concerned, as the corporate brands she X-rayed a decade before. Whenever possible, she alleges, Obama “favors the grand symbolic gesture over deep structural change.” He was happy to play the role of the “anti-war, anti–Wall Street party crasher” when running for the Democratic nomination, but promptly cut bipartisan deals “with crazed Republicans once in the White House.”
 Quoting: Branding

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It is why I said a long time ago Ron Paul/Bernie Sanders ticket is the only thing that could shake it to its roots. Separate it all back out in a dialectical framework type way. Why Ron Paul will not switch to an Independent like Bernie and shake the tree up is my issue with him. Enough politics from me though...lol
 Quoting: A Muse Me


This is what got missed by the so called left in 2008 by buying brand Hopey-Changey, whom shamelessly stole “We are the ones we have been waiting for” from the Hopi.

In the new introduction to No Logo, Klein denounces Obama as little more than a neocon who has wrapped himself in the branding of truly transformative political movements. Shamelessly helping itself to the iconography of Che Guevara, the rhetorical cadences of Martin Luther King, and the “Yes We Can” slogan of Latin American migrant workers, the Obama brand is just as hollow and inauthentic, as far as Klein is concerned, as the corporate brands she X-rayed a decade before. Whenever possible, she alleges, Obama “favors the grand symbolic gesture over deep structural change.” He was happy to play the role of the “anti-war, anti–Wall Street party crasher” when running for the Democratic nomination, but promptly cut bipartisan deals “with crazed Republicans once in the White House.”
 Quoting: Branding

 Quoting: A Muse Me


Based on his brilliant analysis:

Barack Obama is a brand. And the Obama brand is designed to make us feel good about our government while corporate overlords loot the Treasury, our elected officials continue to have their palms greased by armies of corporate lobbyists, our corporate media diverts us with gossip and trivia and our imperial wars expand in the Middle East. Brand Obama is about being happy consumers. We are entertained. We feel hopeful. We like our president. We believe he is like us. But like all branded products spun out from the manipulative world of corporate advertising, we are being duped into doing and supporting a lot of things that are not in our interest.
 Quoting: Buying Brand Obama by Chris Hedges

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It is why I said a long time ago Ron Paul/Bernie Sanders ticket is the only thing that could shake it to its roots. Separate it all back out in a dialectical framework type way. Why Ron Paul will not switch to an Independent like Bernie and shake the tree up is my issue with him. Enough politics from me though...lol
 Quoting: A Muse Me


This is what got missed by the so called left in 2008 by buying brand Hopey-Changey, whom shamelessly stole “We are the ones we have been waiting for” from the Hopi.

In the new introduction to No Logo, Klein denounces Obama as little more than a neocon who has wrapped himself in the branding of truly transformative political movements. Shamelessly helping itself to the iconography of Che Guevara, the rhetorical cadences of Martin Luther King, and the “Yes We Can” slogan of Latin American migrant workers, the Obama brand is just as hollow and inauthentic, as far as Klein is concerned, as the corporate brands she X-rayed a decade before. Whenever possible, she alleges, Obama “favors the grand symbolic gesture over deep structural change.” He was happy to play the role of the “anti-war, anti–Wall Street party crasher” when running for the Democratic nomination, but promptly cut bipartisan deals “with crazed Republicans once in the White House.”
 Quoting: Branding

 Quoting: A Muse Me


Based on his brilliant analysis:

Barack Obama is a brand. And the Obama brand is designed to make us feel good about our government while corporate overlords loot the Treasury, our elected officials continue to have their palms greased by armies of corporate lobbyists, our corporate media diverts us with gossip and trivia and our imperial wars expand in the Middle East. Brand Obama is about being happy consumers. We are entertained. We feel hopeful. We like our president. We believe he is like us. But like all branded products spun out from the manipulative world of corporate advertising, we are being duped into doing and supporting a lot of things that are not in our interest.
 Quoting: Buying Brand Obama by Chris Hedges

 Quoting: A Muse Me


Now. Put it all Together.


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What the morphed face of “Corporate Personhood” looks like.
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which replicates evangelist image of god/prosperity

or wealth without sin

Mitt Romney acknowledged yesterday that his tax rate is probably about 15 percent--lower than what many high-income families pay. Romney, whose net worth is estimated to be between $200 and $250 million, pays a lower tax rate because most of his income comes from investments instead of a salary.
 Quoting: observation

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 Quoting: aether


I'm quite sure there's only one man running who doesn't worship Mammon. You know... the one they try to bury and hide? The one who rambles on and on like we do, looking at the root causes, the implications, the consequences before making some knee-jerk, feel good, four easy payments of 19.99 statement that means little... while they institute even more back-end clusterfuckism to hide their graft and corruption.
 Quoting: Sacred Chao Herder


The MSMBS and the Right (probably some triangulation in there from camp Obama) took him out a few months ago when they equated his view on Capitalism, which is more pure with what Adam Smith theorized, when they equated him with “Hippy” philosophy in the 60’s on one of the morning shows.

Why could they say that with a straight face, please refer back to 1844 Manuscripts.

1rof1

Hence why I am asking why won’t Paul switch to an Independent?
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Oops. Amended. "Am I buggin' you? I don't mean to bug ya.”


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It is why I said a long time ago Ron Paul/Bernie Sanders ticket is the only thing that could shake it to its roots. Separate it all back out in a dialectical framework type way. Why Ron Paul will not switch to an Independent like Bernie and shake the tree up is my issue with him. Enough politics from me though...lol
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I bet he will if they don't put him on the republican ballot this fall.
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It is why I said a long time ago Ron Paul/Bernie Sanders ticket is the only thing that could shake it to its roots. Separate it all back out in a dialectical framework type way. Why Ron Paul will not switch to an Independent like Bernie and shake the tree up is my issue with him. Enough politics from me though...lol
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I think the same...I told my husband last year, if there was ever a time an Independent could win...it would be now.
Our forefathers discouraged the split...or one did I remember has a famous about it...my intuition says he needs to run Independent...
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I'll write him in if he's not on there. I refuse to vote for either side of the same coin.
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It is why I said a long time ago Ron Paul/Bernie Sanders ticket is the only thing that could shake it to its roots. Separate it all back out in a dialectical framework type way. Why Ron Paul will not switch to an Independent like Bernie and shake the tree up is my issue with him. Enough politics from me though...lol
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I bet he will if they don't put him on the republican ballot this fall.
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It is why I said a long time ago Ron Paul/Bernie Sanders ticket is the only thing that could shake it to its roots. Separate it all back out in a dialectical framework type way. Why Ron Paul will not switch to an Independent like Bernie and shake the tree up is my issue with him. Enough politics from me though...lol
 Quoting: A Muse Me


I think the same...I told my husband last year, if there was ever a time an Independent could win...it would be now.
Our forefathers discouraged the split...or one did I remember has a famous about it...my intuition says he needs to run Independent...
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It is why I said a long time ago Ron Paul/Bernie Sanders ticket is the only thing that could shake it to its roots. Separate it all back out in a dialectical framework type way. Why Ron Paul will not switch to an Independent like Bernie and shake the tree up is my issue with him. Enough politics from me though...lol
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I think the same...I told my husband last year, if there was ever a time an Independent could win...it would be now.
Our forefathers discouraged the split...or one did I remember has a famous about it...my intuition says he needs to run Independent...
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1rof1
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The League of Women Voters is withdrawing sponsorship of the presidential debates...because the demands of the two campaign organizations would perpetrate a fraud on the American voter. It has become clear to us that the candidates' organizations aim to add debates to their list of campaign-trail charades devoid of substance, spontaneity and answers to tough questions. The League has no intention of becoming an accessory to the hoodwinking of the American public. —League President Nancy M. Neuman, LWV October 03, 1988
 Quoting: Women’s Intuition in Reality


Last three way. Not you and I. 1992
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It is why I said a long time ago Ron Paul/Bernie Sanders ticket is the only thing that could shake it to its roots. Separate it all back out in a dialectical framework type way. Why Ron Paul will not switch to an Independent like Bernie and shake the tree up is my issue with him. Enough politics from me though...lol
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I think the same...I told my husband last year, if there was ever a time an Independent could win...it would be now.
Our forefathers discouraged the split...or one did I remember has a famous about it...my intuition says he needs to run Independent...
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I'll write him in if he's not on there. I refuse to vote for either side of the same coin.
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What the morphed face of “Corporate Personhood” looks like.
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which replicates evangelist image of god/prosperity

or wealth without sin

Mitt Romney acknowledged yesterday that his tax rate is probably about 15 percent--lower than what many high-income families pay. Romney, whose net worth is estimated to be between $200 and $250 million, pays a lower tax rate because most of his income comes from investments instead of a salary.
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I'm quite sure there's only one man running who doesn't worship Mammon. You know... the one they try to bury and hide? The one who rambles on and on like we do, looking at the root causes, the implications, the consequences before making some knee-jerk, feel good, four easy payments of 19.99 statement that means little... while they institute even more back-end clusterfuckism to hide their graft and corruption.
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The MSMBS and the Right (probably some triangulation in there from camp Obama) took him out a few months ago when they equated his view on Capitalism, which is more pure with what Adam Smith theorized, when they equated him with “Hippy” philosophy in the 60’s on one of the morning shows.

Why could they say that with a straight face, please refer back to 1844 Manuscripts.

1rof1

Hence why I am asking why won’t Paul switch to an Independent?
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Not any inside information here, just my wild mass guessing... there's a plan afoot that I catch the periphery of in the strangest places. If Paul goes independent, he loses what little mainstream attention he gets. There's a method to the madness, it's showing something I can intuit, but can't point a finger at and say there... Just keep the faith. Remember, infiltration and subversion aren't the exclusive tools of the darkside...

When the Black Swan flies, something tells me it will have everything to do with Paul. They won't be able to hide it because they'll set the stage and pump up the volume. Again, won't "explain" because it's a gut feeling/vision I keep feeling, but it's fleeting. I think if I do know, if the pattern is telling me what I think it is... well, it would be like me to hide it in it's entirety to keep me from spoiling it for all of us, lol. Or not.

Could just be my wild imagination... or that I'm so needing the world to wake up I'm projecting my dream out. Or I could just be wishful thinking. Or I could be right. But who cares why in the end, eh? It's not about being right or wrong, but the journey that took you there. That takes me there. :)
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It is why I said a long time ago Ron Paul/Bernie Sanders ticket is the only thing that could shake it to its roots. Separate it all back out in a dialectical framework type way. Why Ron Paul will not switch to an Independent like Bernie and shake the tree up is my issue with him. Enough politics from me though...lol
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I think the same...I told my husband last year, if there was ever a time an Independent could win...it would be now.
Our forefathers discouraged the split...or one did I remember has a famous about it...my intuition says he needs to run Independent...
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1rof1
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The League of Women Voters is withdrawing sponsorship of the presidential debates...because the demands of the two campaign organizations would perpetrate a fraud on the American voter. It has become clear to us that the candidates' organizations aim to add debates to their list of campaign-trail charades devoid of substance, spontaneity and answers to tough questions. The League has no intention of becoming an accessory to the hoodwinking of the American public. —League President Nancy M. Neuman, LWV October 03, 1988
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Last three way. Not you and I. 1992
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I think my last three way was in 1992, too, lmao ;)
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It is why I said a long time ago Ron Paul/Bernie Sanders ticket is the only thing that could shake it to its roots. Separate it all back out in a dialectical framework type way. Why Ron Paul will not switch to an Independent like Bernie and shake the tree up is my issue with him. Enough politics from me though...lol
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I think the same...I told my husband last year, if there was ever a time an Independent could win...it would be now.
Our forefathers discouraged the split...or one did I remember has a famous about it...my intuition says he needs to run Independent...
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I'll write him in if he's not on there. I refuse to vote for either side of the same coin.
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Yup, the lesser of two evils is still fucking evil :) How can you make a choice between two of the same and say you had a choice at all?
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Not perfect, just perfectly Beau ;)
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Touche...
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It's cool ;) Perfectionism... real sticky issue with me. I only recently decided I don't have to be perfect, just perfectly me. I should have expanded that thought, wasn't censuring you and I didn't make that clear. I brought my own issue in without explaining, please forgive me. I'm working on that, too :)
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No worries...and no need to apologize...i understood without clarification rastabanan

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I think the same...I told my husband last year, if there was ever a time an Independent could win...it would be now.
Our forefathers discouraged the split...or one did I remember has a famous about it...my intuition says he needs to run Independent...
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1rof1
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The League of Women Voters is withdrawing sponsorship of the presidential debates...because the demands of the two campaign organizations would perpetrate a fraud on the American voter. It has become clear to us that the candidates' organizations aim to add debates to their list of campaign-trail charades devoid of substance, spontaneity and answers to tough questions. The League has no intention of becoming an accessory to the hoodwinking of the American public. —League President Nancy M. Neuman, LWV October 03, 1988
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Last three way. Not you and I. 1992
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I think my last three way was in 1992, too, lmao ;)
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Now I really have to think about that. scratching
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which replicates evangelist image of god/prosperity

or wealth without sin

...

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I'm quite sure there's only one man running who doesn't worship Mammon. You know... the one they try to bury and hide? The one who rambles on and on like we do, looking at the root causes, the implications, the consequences before making some knee-jerk, feel good, four easy payments of 19.99 statement that means little... while they institute even more back-end clusterfuckism to hide their graft and corruption.
 Quoting: Sacred Chao Herder


The MSMBS and the Right (probably some triangulation in there from camp Obama) took him out a few months ago when they equated his view on Capitalism, which is more pure with what Adam Smith theorized, when they equated him with “Hippy” philosophy in the 60’s on one of the morning shows.

Why could they say that with a straight face, please refer back to 1844 Manuscripts.

1rof1

Hence why I am asking why won’t Paul switch to an Independent?
 Quoting: A Muse Me


Not any inside information here, just my wild mass guessing... there's a plan afoot that I catch the periphery of in the strangest places. If Paul goes independent, he loses what little mainstream attention he gets. There's a method to the madness, it's showing something I can intuit, but can't point a finger at and say there... Just keep the faith. Remember, infiltration and subversion aren't the exclusive tools of the darkside...

When the Black Swan flies, something tells me it will have everything to do with Paul. They won't be able to hide it because they'll set the stage and pump up the volume. Again, won't "explain" because it's a gut feeling/vision I keep feeling, but it's fleeting. I think if I do know, if the pattern is telling me what I think it is... well, it would be like me to hide it in it's entirety to keep me from spoiling it for all of us, lol. Or not.

Could just be my wild imagination... or that I'm so needing the world to wake up I'm projecting my dream out. Or I could just be wishful thinking. Or I could be right. But who cares why in the end, eh? It's not about being right or wrong, but the journey that took you there. That takes me there. :)
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It is why I said a long time ago Ron Paul/Bernie Sanders ticket is the only thing that could shake it to its roots. Separate it all back out in a dialectical framework type way. Why Ron Paul will not switch to an Independent like Bernie and shake the tree up is my issue with him. Enough politics from me though...lol
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I bet he will if they don't put him on the republican ballot this fall.
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He's proving the point. He IS a traditional Republican if you take the partisan bullshit of the past 50 or so years out of the equation. He's the only real republican running... and he's alienated from the party. He started the Tea Party, yet now it's in the hands of slack jawed yokels who know nothing about Republicanism, Liberalism or any ism that the MSM defines in a contradictory fashion.

Like a few months ago, Tim's dad... bless his heart, lol. I detest him in many ways, but I do adore him in many more. He's a product of the Boomer policies... So we're talking Social Security and hating on socialism in the same breath. I casually mention that SS is socialist in nature... and he was up in my face arguing like I killed his sacred chao. I'm good at that, lmao.

So I took the emotion out by saying, I'm not suggesting that SS is a bad thing. It helps many, sooo many people depend on it and it is what it is. But admit it's socialist. It says so on the box. Poor thing was so confused, but I'll say this... he thought about it and fought back the knee jerk reaction because he knows me, knows I'm not out to take his benefits, that I'm educated enough to know my way around a thing before I brought it up. So he says, so what do we do?

I was shocked... Now I'm 39. I'm still a "kid" to the Boomers since that's my parents generation. But here's the thing... they know our hearts. They might not trust the younger people, but those of us pushing 40 now? We've earned a little clout because all the things we told them would happen in the 90s came to pass.

Jobs? They were plentiful then, but fleeting, easy come, easy go. The Boomers once thought that was our fault... then it came for them. His plant, union (of course!), began hiring temps and treating them like shit. He was making 60 grand a year with full bennies and they're getting $9 an hour out of college, temporary... like a try out. They'd can them right before the time came to hire them. Of course he defended the union then... I can't blame him, he had a fucking sweet deal. That was the denial stage, nothing was wrong because it wasn't happening to him.

Nafta? Unions convinced them it was awesome, but then guess where his plant went and who got an early retirement package? I remember saying to him once when Tim had gotten one of those mcjobs they'd never hire him and he just shook his head sadly. I remember asking many Boomers around that time frame who was going to buy the things they made if younger workers made a pittance. Who'd buy all the Walmart crap made in Mexico and China when all the jobs went to Mexico and China. He reminded me, said I'd called it. He apologized and I asked him why... he said because he didn't know, he didn't understand. But now he does.

Before all that, he'd thought I was nuts when I pulled out my 401K and quit my quite awesome (for here!) local gig to start my own business. He railed at me for two weeks... but I told him look, if I hadn't quit when I had, I'd have lost my 401K, quitting and pulling it, taking the hit, only way to save my 15,000. He apologized when the stock bottomed two weeks after and went from 60 per share to .60 per share. He wrote it off a fluke, but still took a small amount of advice from me then... it didn't make him money, but it saved part of Tim's mom's pension. He asks me why I don't do the stock thing since I'd made a chunk just by manipulating my 401K back in the day... and I'm truthful. It feels dirty. Making money on a market that's not free, that's rife with corruption and manipulation makes me complicit in it's continuation. I'd rather have my soul than give it to Mammon... not a very wise choice in the world we're in, but a wise choice for me.

I could have been a gambler, addicted to the rush of the flush, but never thinking of the loss that was my gain. I'm not cut out for casinos... maybe a quiet poker game in the back, but I won't seek the ruin of someone's livelihood to fuel decadence and luxury. It just doesn't feel "right for me". No judgment on those who do, not just saying that... my ideals are my own, that's my door of the law (just gotta toss in a little Kafka here, lol, remind you I'm smart, hehe). I won't force them or use my standards to say another should do this or that. Maybe that's why Libertarian's don't get ahead... we never met an issue we'd force... except freedom and free will.

My point, rambling though it is... change begins with us explaining our positions to the young, to the old. It's nice to live in a bubble of people who share your views... who'll mentally masturbate with you. But to go out and educate a friend, a family member, to make them really think instead of taking the word of someone in authority? That's the important thing in the NOW. What good does it do to snicker at the poor dumb sheep if you're in the same damned pasture as they are? Be a black sheep, go in stealth mode. Be a goat, chew a hole through the fence. Just saying, lol.
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