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| aether User ID: 1412926 United Kingdom03/19/2012 10:04 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Zoroaster The date of Zoroaster, i.e., the date of composition of the Old Avestan gathas, is unknown. Classical writers such as Plutarch proposed dates prior to 6000 BC.[8] Dates proposed in scholarly literature diverge widely, between the 18th and the 6th centuries BC. Quoting: observationIn the Gathas, Zoroaster sees the human condition as the mental struggle between aša (truth) and druj (lie). The cardinal concept of aša—which is highly nuanced and only vaguely translatable—is at the foundation of all Zoroastrian doctrine, including that of Ahura Mazda (who is aša), creation (that is aša), existence (that is aša) and as the condition for Free Will, which is arguably Zoroaster's greatest contribution to religious philosophy. [link to en.wikipedia.org] Sumerians believed that their role in the universe was to serve the gods. Quoting: observationSumerian language Sumerian is the language of ancient Sumer, which was spoken in southern Mesopotamia (modern Iraq) since at least the 4th millennium BC. Quoting: observation[link to en.wikipedia.org] zoroaster desired to make sense of our world following the loss of our golden age. he required a reason to break free of tradition , the tradition that told, "we are servants of the god(s)", because of how that was translated to servitude of the masses within hierarchical society and to discover meaning in our changed circumstance whilst satisfying his intuitive awareness that there must exist the answer to our return to golden age lifestyle in a location somewhere, even if that location was invisible (non material) he could not and did not say the gods did not exist because tradition and himself knew they did what had been witnessed was the removal of their good god, their god of golden age and physical replacement by a bright shiny new god, the god whom now ruled kronos was gone thus zoroaster came to the conclusion the new god was evil/insane this provided him with the story line to justify all action he took following his "revelation" zoroaster may have been the original che guevara Last Edited by aether on 03/19/2012 10:10 AM |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 865798  United States03/19/2012 10:08 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: aether that is the natural consequence and locally it was effective but globalization within an information era fucked it thus no one possessed foresight, which of course we knew thus the unnatural knot formed as a consequence of natural unawareness naturally unravels in a manner unimagined And there forms unseen shall begin to spill out to reconcile past and future to the inequalities and knotted rationalizations of present. The beheaded asp. well it gets better the motive that motivates our elite is the horrifying irrevocable evidence of discovery of our past 5 years that it is no longer safe to die and because within their records and ranks no answer exists they believe, indeed hope, the answer lies outside of their ranks within our rank and file and because the only way to discover the meaning of death is whilst alive, there is a desire to restrict scale of killing (sacrifice) because of their fear of killing a person whom possess the awareness they require to match/enhance their science hence resolve their now arisen and arising fear of death funny huh  Thread: The "Nobody" Should Be Revealed!!! (Page 392) Can you explain this, aether? the motive that motivates our elite is the horrifying irrevocable evidence of discovery of our past 5 years that it is no longer safe to die How did the new discoveries (and what were the discoveries) come to the point that they manifested a realization that it is not safe to die? Why is it not safe to die? Is this a new occurrence, that some changes came along that suddenly made them think it is not safe to die? Or has it always existed (it not being safe to die) they have just discovered it. This is a massive convergence. This is the grandest convergence, IMO, in as far as 'irrevocably' changing the human condition if this information were divulged to the populace. And, what 'type' of person would have what type of information they need to resolve this sudden fear of death? This is a fascinating convergence... |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 12770056 United States03/19/2012 10:11 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Aeher....what would happen if the world view would no longer conform to experience? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 3960796 hey  what is the referring to? oh i get it humanity is no longer guided by what it believes it becomes driven by what it discovers funny...I can't reply what my heart desires....  something here will not let me.... |
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| aether User ID: 1412926 United Kingdom03/19/2012 10:21 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Dionysian Fullaflatus And there forms unseen shall begin to spill out to reconcile past and future to the inequalities and knotted rationalizations of present. The beheaded asp. well it gets better the motive that motivates our elite is the horrifying irrevocable evidence of discovery of our past 5 years that it is no longer safe to die and because within their records and ranks no answer exists they believe, indeed hope, the answer lies outside of their ranks within our rank and file and because the only way to discover the meaning of death is whilst alive, there is a desire to restrict scale of killing (sacrifice) because of their fear of killing a person whom possess the awareness they require to match/enhance their science hence resolve their now arisen and arising fear of death funny huh Thread: The "Nobody" Should Be Revealed!!! (Page 392) Can you explain this, aether? the motive that motivates our elite is the horrifying irrevocable evidence of discovery of our past 5 years that it is no longer safe to die How did the new discoveries (and what were the discoveries) come to the point that they manifested a realization that it is not safe to die? Why is it not safe to die? Is this a new occurrence, that some changes came along that suddenly made them think it is not safe to die? Or has it always existed (it not being safe to die) they have just discovered it. This is a massive convergence. This is the grandest convergence, IMO, in as far as 'irrevocably' changing the human condition if this information were divulged to the populace. And, what 'type' of person would have what type of information they need to resolve this sudden fear of death? This is a fascinating convergence... brilliant!! and lovely they have possessed the information that lead to their very recent conclusion for over 100 years but it has taken since then to test, experiment, discover etc.etc. and finally reach their conclusion they know enough to know what they do not know but they have yet to arrange what they know into order that fits desire dieing correctly that is the reason, the only reason, for the change of tone and direction of investigation within our occult masters which we have updated in this thread |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 865798 United States03/19/2012 10:25 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: aether well it gets better the motive that motivates our elite is the horrifying irrevocable evidence of discovery of our past 5 years that it is no longer safe to die and because within their records and ranks no answer exists they believe, indeed hope, the answer lies outside of their ranks within our rank and file and because the only way to discover the meaning of death is whilst alive, there is a desire to restrict scale of killing (sacrifice) because of their fear of killing a person whom possess the awareness they require to match/enhance their science hence resolve their now arisen and arising fear of death funny huh Thread: The "Nobody" Should Be Revealed!!! (Page 392) Can you explain this, aether? the motive that motivates our elite is the horrifying irrevocable evidence of discovery of our past 5 years that it is no longer safe to die How did the new discoveries (and what were the discoveries) come to the point that they manifested a realization that it is not safe to die? Why is it not safe to die? Is this a new occurrence, that some changes came along that suddenly made them think it is not safe to die? Or has it always existed (it not being safe to die) they have just discovered it. This is a massive convergence. This is the grandest convergence, IMO, in as far as 'irrevocably' changing the human condition if this information were divulged to the populace. And, what 'type' of person would have what type of information they need to resolve this sudden fear of death? This is a fascinating convergence... brilliant!! and lovely they have possessed the information that lead to their very recent conclusion for over 100 years but it has taken since then to test, experiment, discover etc.etc. and finally reach their conclusion they know enough to know what they do not know but they have yet to arrange what they know into order that fits desire dieing correctly that is the reason, the only reason, for the change of tone and direction of investigation within our occult masters which we have updated in this thread OK, you are usually very accurate in your statements, but I am going to question something you just said. THIS is a very important understanding to everyone on this planet. Common understanding is not about 'dieing correctly' , it is about living correctly. Does the occult see dieing correctly as more important than living correctly? |
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| aether User ID: 1412926 United Kingdom03/19/2012 10:29 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | OK, you are usually very accurate in your statements, but I am going to question something you just said. Quoting: sickscentTHIS is a very important understanding to everyone on this planet. It is not about 'dieing correctly' , it is about living correctly. Does the occult see dieing correctly as more important than living correctly? . because the only way to discover the meaning of death is whilst alive, there is a desire to restrict scale of killing...... Quoting: aetherLast Edited by aether on 03/19/2012 10:29 AM |
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| aether User ID: 1412926 United Kingdom03/19/2012 10:33 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | OK, you are usually very accurate in your statements, but I am going to question something you just said. Quoting: sickscentTHIS is a very important understanding to everyone on this planet. It is not about 'dieing correctly' , it is about living correctly. Does the occult see dieing correctly as more important than living correctly? . because the only way to discover the meaning of death is whilst alive, there is a desire to restrict scale of killing...... Quoting: aetherwe say the same thing as the information that lead our elite to this conclusion is released , lifestyle relevant to death topic will naturally arise but at this location (time) there is not quite enough release of information to prompt that natural phenomenon manifesting but the process is well under way |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 12770725 United States03/19/2012 10:39 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | OK, you are usually very accurate in your statements, but I am going to question something you just said. Quoting: sickscentTHIS is a very important understanding to everyone on this planet. It is not about 'dieing correctly' , it is about living correctly. Does the occult see dieing correctly as more important than living correctly? . because the only way to discover the meaning of death is whilst alive, there is a desire to restrict scale of killing...... Quoting: aetherwe say the same thing as the information that lead our elite to this conclusion is released , lifestyle relevant to death topic will naturally arise but at this location (time) there is not quite enough release of information to prompt that natural phenomenon manifesting but the process is well under way perhaps when we cease to choose a lifestyle over living a life... |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 12770725 United States03/19/2012 10:49 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Aeher....what would happen if the world view would no longer conform to experience? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 3960796 hey what is the referring to? oh i get it humanity is no longer guided by what it believes it becomes driven by what it discovers can one be of gnosis without gnosticism? Some believe you can't have one without the other...heart tells me you can...why must there be a world view on something that is seen as knowledge of one's heart...are we not all the same but different...do we all have the same heart desires? I think not...very evident in everyday life...so why even have a world view of it? |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 865798 United States03/19/2012 10:51 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | OK, you are usually very accurate in your statements, but I am going to question something you just said. Quoting: sickscentTHIS is a very important understanding to everyone on this planet. It is not about 'dieing correctly' , it is about living correctly. Does the occult see dieing correctly as more important than living correctly? . because the only way to discover the meaning of death is whilst alive, there is a desire to restrict scale of killing...... Quoting: aetherwe say the same thing as the information that lead our elite to this conclusion is released , lifestyle relevant to death topic will naturally arise but at this location (time) there is not quite enough release of information to prompt that natural phenomenon manifesting but the process is well under way It's hard to believe it is at this place. I wonder, this natural phenom that is manifesting...I wonder if it results in all of us Knowing in some way. So strange, as I sit here at work, thinking of this stuff. I contemplate over the weekend leaving these trains of thought to those outside myself, and keeping my own thoughts my own. I am acclimating myself to it, and it feels good. There is more clarity in doing so, and rarely do I find any answers outside myself anymore. The only thing I might learn, is the verbage and/or symbols used to describe things I have already figured out. And my own experiences are of such depth now that it is useless to describe them in any detail to anyone. No one understands them anyway, though it has become a second nature to me. I brought up something last week to 2 friends of mine after drinking. The conclusion; its best to leave some things unsaid, as it is too difficult for others to assimilate properly and in correct context. It's hard to believe I have arrived at this place. To see that road stretched behind me has become a comfort I am grateful for. |
| aether User ID: 1412926 United Kingdom03/19/2012 10:59 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | OK, you are usually very accurate in your statements, but I am going to question something you just said. Quoting: sickscentTHIS is a very important understanding to everyone on this planet. It is not about 'dieing correctly' , it is about living correctly. Does the occult see dieing correctly as more important than living correctly? . because the only way to discover the meaning of death is whilst alive, there is a desire to restrict scale of killing...... Quoting: aetherwe say the same thing as the information that lead our elite to this conclusion is released , lifestyle relevant to death topic will naturally arise but at this location (time) there is not quite enough release of information to prompt that natural phenomenon manifesting but the process is well under way It's hard to believe it is at this point. and we are only mid way through the 3rd month of the 7 years i imagine this takes to 2118 approx Quoting: aetherin the meantime archetypes/egregores are mine as in my domain sigh oh well oh, well spotted Quoting: aetherwhen i wrote that i had 2018 in my awareness hmmm and now i look it appears the difference is dependent upon the effort utilized, me included LOL could be a classic "fuck them " moment huh it was a clear 7 when i wrote that sigh clear 7 is GO |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 865798 United States03/19/2012 11:04 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | OK, you are usually very accurate in your statements, but I am going to question something you just said. Quoting: sickscentTHIS is a very important understanding to everyone on this planet. It is not about 'dieing correctly' , it is about living correctly. Does the occult see dieing correctly as more important than living correctly? . because the only way to discover the meaning of death is whilst alive, there is a desire to restrict scale of killing...... Quoting: aetherwe say the same thing as the information that lead our elite to this conclusion is released , lifestyle relevant to death topic will naturally arise but at this location (time) there is not quite enough release of information to prompt that natural phenomenon manifesting but the process is well under way It's hard to believe it is at this place. I wonder, this natural phenom that is manifesting...I wonder if it results in all of us Knowing in some way. So strange, as I sit here at work, thinking of this stuff. I contemplate over the weekend leaving these trains of thought to those outside myself, and keeping my own thoughts my own. I am acclimating myself to it, and it feels good. There is more clarity in doing so, and rarely do I find any answers outside myself anymore. The only thing I might learn, is the verbage and/or symbols used to describe things I have already figured out. And my own experiences are of such depth now that it is useless to describe them in any detail to anyone. No one understands them anyway, though it has become a second nature to me. I brought up something last week to 2 friends of mine after drinking. The conclusion; its best to leave some things unsaid, as it is too difficult for others to assimilate properly and in correct context. It's hard to believe I have arrived at this place. To see that road stretched behind me has become a comfort I am grateful for. Bump because of EDIT. |
| aether User ID: 1412926 United Kingdom03/19/2012 11:05 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Aeher....what would happen if the world view would no longer conform to experience? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 3960796 hey what is the referring to? oh i get it humanity is no longer guided by what it believes it becomes driven by what it discovers can one be of gnosis without gnosticism? Some believe you can't have one without the other...heart tells me you can...why must there be a world view on something that is seen as knowledge of one's heart...are we not all the same but different...do we all have the same heart desires? I think not...very evident in everyday life...so why even have a world view of it? perhaps the information, when fully assembled, is universal in nature of infinite expression, once absorbed thus everyone is aware why they are each different and it`s fine because the why and how is satisfied |
| aether User ID: 1412926 United Kingdom03/19/2012 11:06 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: aether .... we say the same thing as the information that lead our elite to this conclusion is released , lifestyle relevant to death topic will naturally arise but at this location (time) there is not quite enough release of information to prompt that natural phenomenon manifesting but the process is well under way It's hard to believe it is at this place. I wonder, this natural phenom that is manifesting...I wonder if it results in all of us Knowing in some way. So strange, as I sit here at work, thinking of this stuff. I contemplate over the weekend leaving these trains of thought to those outside myself, and keeping my own thoughts my own. I am acclimating myself to it, and it feels good. There is more clarity in doing so, and rarely do I find any answers outside myself anymore. The only thing I might learn, is the verbage and/or symbols used to describe things I have already figured out. And my own experiences are of such depth now that it is useless to describe them in any detail to anyone. No one understands them anyway, though it has become a second nature to me. I brought up something last week to 2 friends of mine after drinking. The conclusion; its best to leave some things unsaid, as it is too difficult for others to assimilate properly and in correct context. It's hard to believe I have arrived at this place. To see that road stretched behind me has become a comfort I am grateful for. Bump because of EDIT. lovely  Last Edited by aether on 03/19/2012 11:07 AM |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 8602358 Canada03/19/2012 03:26 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Hey Aether, did you and SS have any success yet in figuring out the link that is required to create a continuum to the formation of quantum torroidal vortices? That transitionary state is extremely difficult to even ponder within conventional space-time parameters. |
