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Marko Rodin - Smart Lazer Technology

 
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good morning psemeni , it feels you are correct on all points including your memory of experience (life)
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When I read back over my post I kinda cringed at my use of the word "past" when referring to the life experience.

Whoa...my goodness, I just had some strong energy come into my crown chakra. Wow.


dna being driven (shaped) by our awareness is forced to follow our thinking
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When I read a comment like this I always think of the AC/DC song title, "Who Made Who?"

(My goddaughter and I just rocked and rolled about the living room, dancing to that song...1rof1)


Hoooookay...lol. Harharhar, at least I don't have oatmeal and applesauce in my hair this morning.


Anyhoo, it's the same old "Which came first, the chicken or the egg" gig. Which came first? DNA or awareness of being in the human form?

(Oh. My. Gawd. My head is like a freakin' ticker tape of concept)

Given an holographic reality construct both the chicken and the egg ARE "created" at the same time...can we not say the same of DNA and awareness of the human form?

One begats the other...without one inceptually creating the other, at least when getting to the particular notion of an awareness of human form within an holographic-type of reality construct.

With 12 active strands of DNA - or complete function of all DNA available, how many ever that truly is - we'd have one particular experience of human form creating our ability to perceive and be aware of self and environment. With 2 strands of DNA we're having a far different experience of human form creating awareness of self and environment.

Given that there's this particular difference between the two, I'd say that DNA IS the delineating, axial, "tuning fork" through which awareness is cultivated...yes, and how we went from 12 to 2 strands is important to "flesh out."

If for no other reason than to not let this happen again/make the same mistakes again - to learn something of vital importance - it is a mystery to be solved.

Lol, I'm going to stop there. I've got cellular rattlin' going on and need to ltana shake-shake it out.


Cut a rug with me in the ethers, aether... twirl


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i get it, the origin of us, as in, why and how are we as we are

We are left with three basic choices:

Modern man was created here from scratch, and recently.

Modern man was brought here from somewhere else in the cosmos.

Modern man was genetically re-engineered from one of the hominids, most likely the Neanderthal.
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page 10

Shea tested the hypothesis that there were differences in behavioural variability between earlier and later Homo sapiens using stone tool evidence dating to between 250,000- 6000 years ago in eastern Africa.

His analysis shows no single behavioural revolution in our species' evolutionary history. Instead, the evidence shows wide variability in Homo sapiens toolmaking strategies from the earliest times onwards.
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"intelligence has to arise FIRST and create biology"

i have never thought about it

now we are thinking about it i am sure awareness will arise rockon

Additional thought

what we are dictates all we were as in, does it matter once awareness of what we are satisfies all we desire to be, eternally


i wonder
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eternity psemeni, that`s why i have never thought about it

in the west we recently divided time hence erased eternal from our awareness and applied it to our universe (big bang)

using divided we calculate within the west that our galaxy takes 250 million years to rotate once

earth, either as part of the what was a brown dwarf saturn or within it`s present suns solar system, like our galaxy it is within , is unlikely to form for less than at least a few rotations of the whole galaxy

you may feel that the divided time involved allows ample time for us to have travelled here ourselves, so long ago there is no memory of it accessible via our collective memory and, because all things spiral, there is no access to that awareness within the field containing that memory, long left behind in a location our galaxy will never return to

more than that, wherever we go back within eternity, humans of our structure and function/behaviour were always somewhere within our eternal universe

nothing knows what formed us as there is no formation of a beginning within the structure of our universe, a structure which forces eternal to function eternally

their appears no memory that we traveled off our planet or that we ever possessed awareness of the structure and function of our environment therefore, when we naturally desired to ^die", there is no indication of whether we retained memory/personality or returned to no thing as in, our energy/information returned to the field
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there is considerable awareness that we did travel to what we call our planet and once arrived, we never imagined leaving
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that is why all of our cultures retain awareness within their architecture, art and symbols of vortical physics

it is our awareness of the vortice that got us here

the spiral in the sky

time for a song
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i get it, the origin of us, as in, why and how are we as we are
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I think that when we solve the mystery of the origin of the UNIVERSE, our environment, we'll then be able to know far more about how and why we are here as we are.

I do think proper discovery begins there.


We are left with three basic choices:

Modern man was created here from scratch, and recently.

Modern man was brought here from somewhere else in the cosmos.

Modern man was genetically re-engineered from one of the hominids, most likely the Neanderthal.
 Quoting: Science

page 10
 Quoting: aether



I really like science, but - with all due respect - sometimes scientists exemplify the old saying of "can't see the forest for the trees" for all their reductive approach.



"Modern man was created here from scratch, and recently."


Wouldn't one have to know what the age of the universe is, no less the planet's age, to describe what constitutes "recently"?

A holographic universe could, even would, "spring to life" as aged as its creator intended for it to appear.

So much for carbon dating, eh?


"Modern man was brought here from somewhere else in the cosmos."


Modern man, Humanity, IS a part of this cosmos already...gaah intuitively, this one is more than a little awkward for me.

hmm Whether or not we were elsewhere in the universe before being in this galaxy, here on this planet, we were already "here" within the complete environment to begin with.

The concept is not without merit, it although does nothing to describe how we got into this "cosmic" environment to begin with.


"Modern man was genetically re-engineered from one of the hominids, most likely the Neanderthal."


Well, lol, they could've just said that archaic man - or archaic woman, more to the point - was inseminated by ETs, and thus modern man was bred... heh, or "bread" if one is more STS-ET conspiratorial minded.

Gawd, I'd LOVE to see them explain (with efficacy) WHO re-engineered the DNA and why.


"intelligence has to arise FIRST and create biology"
 Quoting: aether



Creative intelligence >>> substratum >>> biology


Exploration >>> holographic universe >>> experiential modality


Just a thought of contrast and comparison...heehee, a leading one, mayhap, but still just thinking outloud.


i have never thought about it

now we are thinking about it i am sure awareness will arise rockon
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This is working for me, too. I'm getting a lot more out of this than might appear.


Additional thought

what we are dictates all we were as in, does it matter once awareness of what we are satisfies all we desire to be, eternally


i wonder
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Profound question, my friend.

For myself? I just don't want to live in ignorant bliss...sigh not ever again.

verysad Very sobering thought for me, lovey.

I don't know everything, don't have all the answers, yet I do know I'm not satisfied with Humanity's lot, here and now. We're so "divided," and such division is snuffing the life out of us.

We are not currently made of the stuff to durate "eternity" while in this genetic form...I'm sorry to say it, but we're not.

Hopefully the emmission from the center of our galaxy is going to take care of some of that problem.

Hopefully.
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"i have dreams that we look like this, 15ft tall, all decked out in ancient jewelry, but the jewlery is not for decoration. the stones and gems on what we wear have purpose"

well by the scale of thunder and lightening that has manifested this summers day whilst i wrote from there to here i imagine there is a connection on what is said in between rockon

time for a song: :rockon:

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"this is the point where the Gods came to earth... could we possibly have a date based on sumerian writings matched with curent time?"

well following our journey you may agree as i say

when you/we are in the right frame of mind to see/receive them rockon

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SPECIAL REPORT
WMAP: A Radiological Analysis
Pierre-Marie Robitaille
Dept. of Radiology, The Ohio State University, 130 Means Hall, 1654 Upham Drive, Columbus, Ohio 43210, USA


Conclusion

Analysis of data from WMAP exposes several problems
which would not be proper in medical imaging. Experience from NMR spectroscopy relative to biological samples
reveals that removal of a contaminating signal, which exceeds the signal of interest by up to a factor of 1,000, requires ability to control the sample at the source. This requirement can never be met by the WMAP team. It is impossible to remove this contamination and thereby “see beyond the galaxy”. It is also dangerous to mathematically manipulate large signals during image reconstruction, especially when the final images have low signal to noise ratios. The galactic signal is not stable from year to year, making signal removal a daunting task as seen by the yearly changes in ILC coefficients for regions 1–11..................

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"The bridge is out on the road back to the Big Bang."

it is done rockon

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Marko's original vision was essentially a perception of a four dimensional sphere, which becomes a complicated toroidal structure when projected into three dimensions. He also perceived a mapping of an energy flow on the surface of this projected toroid .

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"he freely uses conventional terms in unusual ways: fractal, hologram, monopole, phased array, synchronized electricity, polarity, etc.; the effect being more like poetry than anything else.

Dan Winter's writings have many points of contact here, particularly in the use of fractals, of toroids of specific geometry, and the notion that form and ratio are primary. With great poetry, he shows how spin and shape of a Unified Field conspire to effect the cascade of wavelengths from long into short, and vice versa, by sacred stone architecture and biological systems; and thereby allowing the translation of energy from one frequency to another. Note what a slippery concept "energy" is. We all seem to want it, and yet we don"t really know what it is.

"When you have only one kind of flowing material to work with, it is like the universe is one giant flowing ocean. Then the only shape you can make is the vortex.., which makes donuts. Hydrogen as the basic building block of all the atoms, is really a wave shaped into a donut or torus."
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"he freely uses conventional terms in unusual ways: fractal, hologram, monopole, phased array, synchronized electricity, polarity, etc.; the effect being more like poetry than anything else.

Dan Winter's writings have many points of contact here, particularly in the use of fractals, of toroids of specific geometry, and the notion that form and ratio are primary. With great poetry, he shows how spin and shape of a Unified Field conspire to effect the cascade of wavelengths from long into short, and vice versa, by sacred stone architecture and biological systems; and thereby allowing the translation of energy from one frequency to another. Note what a slippery concept "energy" is. We all seem to want it, and yet we don"t really know what it is.

"When you have only one kind of flowing material to work with, it is like the universe is one giant flowing ocean. Then the only shape you can make is the vortex.., which makes donuts. Hydrogen as the basic building block of all the atoms, is really a wave shaped into a donut or torus."

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cool blackbird vid is this is 432mhz? clappa
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"this is the point where the Gods came to earth... could we possibly have a date based on sumerian writings matched with curent time?"

well following our journey you may agree as i say

when you/we are in the right frame of mind to see/receive them rockon
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you = humanity

we = humanity + me
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cool blackbird vid is this is 432mhz? clappa
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i never know for sure, wildhoney does rolleyes

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The Contact Thread ~ The Magic Of Our Fractal Reality ~ Wanna Take A Ride?
Thread: The Contact Thread ~ The Magic Of Our Fractal Reality ~ Wanna Take A Ride? (version 20.13) (Page 22)

Wow, Bowman!

At first I thought this was a copy and paste (with a search and replace of "book" for "thread") but when I checked later, it wasn't.

Being just a post to GLP, it's fucking golden.

I kinda got lost at the end wondering where was the part where I could easily prove this thing to myself, and I thought after all the lead up there'd be something predictive about where we're headed next, but it was like a scene building up to a climax and then suddenly The End appears on screen and you go, WTF?

But that could just be me. I'm clueless on math and geometry so this is new to me.

Anyway, one hell of a post. Best I've ever seen on GLP and it was utterly refreshing to have practically stumbled on to something so intelligent and lucid.

Thank you.

(Oh yeah, the only reason I even read, when otherwise I would have skipped it due to not knowing what fractal meant, was because of someone else's post saying that the Anunnaki worship the fractal geometry whom they view as their Creator. I don't know what the hell that meant either, but because of that, I came here.)
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weird week to be meek
the grief of the seek
always same direction
glimpse by reflection
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relevant russian late 90`s translations

Torsion fields have been studied by several groups of Russian scientists for at least three decades and most of that time in secret. What are torsion fields? According to A. Akimov, these fields come in at least three types: E-fields, S-fields, and G-fields. The E, S, and G stand for Electric, Spin, and Gravity fields. The torsion field and its emanations are subtle energy fields. They are separate and distinct from classical Electric, Magnetic, and Gravity fields. Generators for these fields can be shielded against electro-magnetic fields and the torsion field still manifest itself through such shielding. Torsion fields can be generated, detected, switched on and off (such as for communication purposes), and are a distinct type of energy field heretofore not included in today's classical physics. Torsion field emanations can travel at velocities at least as high as 109 times the speed of light. Torsion fields can interact with laser beams (change frequency); affect biological processes; are generated by melting or solidifying some materials; affect quartz crystals; affect some electronic components; can favorably change some beverages; and have been noted to affect gravity.

According to Akimov, torsion fields coupled with the standard electric, magnetic, and gravity fields should provide means for a unified field theory that will extend the realm of science to include the effects of consciousness. The concept of dowsing, for example, can now have a scientific basis for explanation of the phenomenon. If this suggestion by Akimov proves viable, then science has an opportunity to extend its borders more rapidly into the so-called psychic realms. That could be a multi-decade venture of considerable importance to the expansion of scientific knowledge.
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As is well known, Einstein's general relativity theory operates with 4 translational coordinates x, y, z, ct. Einstein's GR does not take into consideration the fact that the accelerated system can possess an angular momentum. Thus Einstein's mechanics does not take into consideration the existence of torsion interactions or the torsion principle of inertia.

In 1986 M.Carmeli attempted to create a special principle of rotational relativity as an addition to Einstein's special principle of translational relativity. But Carmeli's approach didn't take into consideration some problems of inertia forces, and M.Carmeli could not finish the program of rotational relativity. The program of rotational relativity has been completely realized in the framework of the so-called theory of the physical vacuum by G.I.Shipov

Shipov rigorously showed that Einstein's translational relativity should be complemented with a rotational (torsion) relativity. The combination of translational and torsional relativities allows the development of a new mechanics which is termed the mechanics of an orientable material point (the mechanics of a material point with spin or torsion mechanics) .

The mechanics of a material point with spin describes the motion of an accelerated system by 10 equations, but not by 4 equations as in Einstein's mechanics, and this mechanics is a generalization of Einstein's mechanics. It has been shown that the complete description of the motion of an accelerated system with spin cannot be made in the framework of Riemannian geometry used in GR. The space of torsion mechanics has the structure of the geometry A4 (the geometry of absolute parallelism). The geometry of absolute parallelism was first examined in the works of R.Weitzenbock . It is interesting to note the fact that, in the framework of A4 geometry, A.Einstein has authored the greatest number of works devoted to the unified field theory in comparison with the other geometries.
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Torsion fields are extremely unusual objects of investigation. Since a torsion field is identical to the transverse spin polarization of the physical vacuum, and a gravitational field is identical to the longitudinal spin polarization of the physical vacuum , then some properties of torsion fields are identical to the properties of gravitational fields. For instance, experiments show that torsion fields cannot be shielded by natural media, and in this way their behavior is similar to that of gravitational fields . However, unlike gravitational fields which cannot be shielded even by artificial materials, torsion fields are shielded by artificial materials possessing orthonormal topology of structure. In practice, it is possible to screen torsion radiation with lengths of stretched polyethylene film commonly produced by industry. This film is manufactured in such a manner that the polymers form an aligned unidirectional structure. The unidirectional orientation of the polymers results in a molecular spin ordering. And this results in the generation of a collective torsion field. Two crossed polyethylene films are transparent to light, and are transparent to most of the radio-frequency spectrum. However, they can effectively shield torsion radiation.
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According to modern concepts the field effects (gravitation, electromagnetism) are in the basis of effect of long-range action, and torsion components of fields of the physical vacuum can be in the basis of transfer of information at a distance between biological objects [Shipov G.I."Theory of Physical Vacuum"

There is a possibility for creating in essence a new communication system having non-electromagnetic nature, and having high velocity (more than velocity of light) and extremely high penetrating ability.

After reaching positive results there is a possibility for creating economic mobile communication facilities, which do not require repeater stations and any equipment for creating channels. The realisation of the project can favour the development of the direction of telepathy effect by means of the relevant equipment.

Realisation of pilot model of a communication system (working model) transfer of information (Patent application "Transfer of Information by means of Physical Superweak Fields",

By use of physical medium PMSF (Physical Medium of Superweak Fields) for translation and reception of data it was proposed for the first time to use a translator and a retranslator for decision of the task of modulation of information as well as method of reception and decoding of translated information.

Maximum distance of translation and reception during the experiments was 50 km. For the translation no external power source was needed, engineering and natural objects didn't screen the communication. There was stated the possibility of translation and reception data in operation modes "0" and "1", in the mode of symboliwise reception of words and in the of ideal forms (phantoms). The offered system of translation and reception of data is in our opinion an original analogue of telepathy realised without any biological translating components.

For the wide practical use a corresponding engineering automation of the translation and reception mode is needed.
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Are human beings entirely discrete individuals, their organism enclosed by the skin and their minds enclosed by the cranium housing the brain? Or are there effective, if subtle, interconnections between humans and between humans and the world at large? This study argues that the latter assumption is likely to be true. Though the evidence for "subtle connections" is not in the form of incontrovertible "hard data" it is nevertheless cogent and significant. The directly pertinent findings are generated by research on psi- phenomena and the practice of psychotherapists. Possible explanations for the findings can be traced to the ideas of Carl Jung, and are now pursued at the leading edge of the physical sciences.

Toward an Explanation: The Quantum Vacuum

Jung's concept points the way toward a fruitful avenue of research: a deeper reality that connects mind and mind, and mind and matter. This approach should enter the current stream of consciousness research. For the present, most researchers seek an explanation of mental events mainly in terms of physical processes in the brain. But henceforth the mental events to explain should include not only the workings of the individual brain but, in light of the findings of psi- experimenters and psychotherapists, the subtle connections that link human brains with each other and with the world at large.

It seems likely that world and brain — cosmos and consciousness — are interconnected by a continuous information-conserving and transmitting field. New entities — which can also be forces or fields — can only be postulated when doing so is the simplest, the most economical and the most rational way of explaining a given set of findings and observations.

A field that constitutes the simplest, the most economical and rational explanation of the current findings may exist: David Bohm, the same as this writer, suggested that it is the as yet imperfectly understood "zero- point field" (ZPF) that seems present throughout the quantum vacuum.

Received knowledge about the vacuum - - In quantum physics the quantum vacuum is defined as the lowest energy state of a system of which the equations obey wave mechanics and special relativity. It is the locus of a vast energy field that is neither classically electromagnetic nor gravitational, nor yet nuclear in nature. Instead, it is the originating source of the known electromagnetic, gravitational, and nuclear forces and fields. It is the originating source of matter itself.

The zero- ppoint field of the quantum vacuum is a "Dirac sea": a sea of particles in the negative energy state. These particles are not observable — physicists call them "virtual." But they are not fictional for all that. By stimulating the negative energy states of the ZPF with sufficient energy, a particular region of it can be "kicked" into the real (that is, observable) state of positive energy. This is the process known as pair creation: out of the vacuum emerges a positive energy (real) particle, with a negative energy (virtual) particle remaining in it..

The quantum vacuum contains a staggering density of energy. John Wheeler estimated its matter- equivalent at 1094 gram per cm3 — and that is more than all the matter in the universe put together. Compared with this energy density, the energy of the nucleus of the atom — the most energetic chunk of matter in the known universe — seems almost minuscule: it is "merely" 1014 gram/cm3.

The vacuum itself is not material: its zero- point energies — which, according to David Bohm, exceed all the energies bound in matter 1040 times — are in the negative state. This is fortunate, for if they were not, the universe would instantly collapse to a size smaller than the radius of an atom.

Speculations on the vacuum - - A thin line divides what is already known and accepted about the quantum vacuum and what is still speculative and controversial. Here we review the relevant explorations: those that concern interactions between the observable world of matter- energy and the vacuum's zero- point energies.

The world of matter and the quantum vacuum are known to interact. Under certain conditions vacuum's zero- point energies act on electrons orbiting atomic nuclei. The effects occur when electrons "jump" from one energy state to another: the photons they emit exhibit the so- called Lamb-shift (a frequency slightly shifted from its normal value). Vacuum energies also create a radiation pressure on two closely spaced metal plates. Between the plates some wavelengths of the vacuum field are excluded, thereby reducing its energy density with respect to the field outside. This creates a pressure — known as the Casimir effect — that pushes the plates inward and together.

Other interactions may exist as well. Some years ago Hungarian physicist Lajos Jánossy assigned "relativistic effects" (such as the slowing down of clocks when accelerated close to the speed of light, or the increasing of the mass of objects at those velocities) to the interaction of real world objects with the vacuum's energy field.
Currently another Hungarian, maverick theoretician László Gazdag, developed Jánossy's concept into a full- fledged "post- relativity theory".

In his theory the vacuum's energy field has the properties of a superfluid. It is known that in super-cooled helium all resistance and friction ceases. Conversely, objects move through the fluid without encountering resistance.

In Gazdag's reinterpretation of Einstein's relativity theory the celebrated formulas describe the flow of bosons in the superfluid ZPF. This flow is what determines the geometrical structure of spacetime, and hence the trajectory of real world photons and electrons. When particles of light and matter move uniformly, spacetime is Euclidean; when they are accelerated the ZPF interacts with their motion. Then spacetime appears curved. (As Russian physicist Piotr Kapitza noted, in a superfluid only those objects move without friction that are in constant quasi- uniform motion. If an object is strongly accelerated, vortices are created in the medium and these vortices produce resistance: the classical interaction effects surface.)

Front- line research in physics confirms the basic notion that underlies these assumptions. Current work follows up a suggestion made by physicists Paul Davies and William Unruh in the mid- 1970s. Davies and Unruh, like Jánossy and Gazdag, based their argument on the difference between constant- speed and accelerated motion in the vacuum's zero- point field. Constant- speed motion would exhibit the vacuum's spectrum as isotropic (the same in all directions), whereas accelerated motion would produce a thermal radiation that breaks open the directional symmetry.

In 1994 Bernhard Haisch, Alfonso Rueda and Harold Puthoff gave a mathematical demonstration that inertia can be considered a vacuum- based Lorentz- force. The force originates at the subparticle level and produces opposition to the acceleration of material objects. The accelerated motion of objects through the vacuum produces a magnetic field, and the particles that constitute the objects are deflected by this field. Inertia is thus a form of electromagnetic resistance arising in accelerated frames from the distortion of the zero- point (and otherwise superfluid) field of the vacuum.

More than inertia, also mass appears to be a product of vacuum interaction. If Haisch and collaborators are right, the concept of mass is neither fundamental nor even necessary in physics. When the massless electric charges of the vacuum (the bosons that make up the superfluid zero- point field) interact with the electromagnetic field, beyond the already noted threshold of energy, mass is effectively "created." Thus mass may be a structure condensed from vacuum energy, rather than a fundamental given in the universe.

If mass is a product of vacuum energy, so is gravitation. Gravity, as we know, is always associated with mass, obeying the inverse square law (it drops off proportionately to the square of the distance between the gravitating masses). Hence if mass is produced in interaction with the ZPF, then also the force that is associated with mass must be so produced. This, however, means that all the fundamental characteristics we normally associate with matter are vacuum field- interaction products: inertia, mass, as well as gravity.

In regard to the full scale of interactions between vacuum energies and the micro- as well as macro- world of matter- energy, the work of a group of Russian physicists is of particular significance. Anatoly Akimov, G.I. Shipov, V.N. Binghi and co- workers developed a sophisticated theory of what they call the "physical vacuum." In their theory the vacuum is a real physical field extending throughout the universe: it registers and transmits the traces of both micro- particles and macro-objects.

In standard theories the energetic properties of the quantum vacuum are generally considered in the framework of quantum electrodynamics. This framework gives rise to elegant and relatively simple mathematics.

The Russian physicists do not hesitate to undertake this step. They take their cue from earlier work by Einstein. In a seminal treatment, G.I. Shiphov showed that in accordance with the Clifford- Einstein program of the geometrization of spacetime, the vacuum can be described not only in terms of Riemannian (four- dimensional) curvature, but also in terms of Cartan torsion. In the 1920s studies carried out by Albert Einstein and E. Cartan laid the foundation of the theory that became subsequent known as the ECT (Einstein- Cartan Theory). The idea stemmed originally from Cartan, who at the beginning of the century speculated about fields generated by angular momentum density. This idea was later elaborated independently by a number of Russian physicists, including N. Myshkin and V. Belyaev. They claim to have discovered the natural manifestations of enduring torsion fields.

Presently Akimov and his team consider the quantum vacuum as a universal torsion wave carrying medium. The torsion field is said to fill all of space isotropically, including its matter component. It has a quantal structure that is unobservable in non- disturbed states. However, violations of vacuum symmetry and invariance create different, and in principle observable, states.

The torsion field theory takes a modified form of the original electron- positron model of the "Dirac- sea": the vacuum's energy field is viewed as a system of rotating wave packets of electrons and positrons (rather than a sea of electron- positron pairs). Where the wave- packets are mutually embedded, the field is electrically neutral. If the spins of the embedded packets have the opposite sign, the system is compensated not only in charge, but also in classical spin and magnetic moment.

As a result Akimov et al. view the vacuum as a physical medium that can assume various polarization states. All fundamental fields known to physics correspond to specific vacuum polarization- states.

Thus the above "torsion- field theory of the physical vacuum" can claim that all objects, from quanta to galaxies, create vortices in the vacuum. The vortices created by particles and other material objects are information carriers, linking physical events quasi- instantaneously. The group speed of these "torsion- waves" is of the order of 109 C -- one billion times the speed of light. Since not just physical objects, also the neurons in our brain create and receive torsion waves, not only particles are "informed" of each other's presence , also humans can be so informed: our brain, too, is a vacuum- based "torsion- field transceiver." This suggests a physical explanation not only of quantum non- locality, but also of telepathy, remote viewing, and the other telesomatic effects discussed above.

Torsion waves both superluminal and enduring. Meta- stable "torsion- phantoms" generated by spin- torsion interaction can persist even in the absence of the objects that generated them. The existence of these phantoms has been confirmed in the experiments of Vladimir Poponin and his team at the Institute of Biochemical Physics of the Russian Academy of Sciences.

Poponin, who has since repeated the experiment at the Heartmath Institute in the US, placed a sample of a DNA molecule into a temperature controlled chamber and subjected it to a laser beam. He found that the electromagnetic field around the chamber exhibits a specific structure, more or less as expected. But he also found that this structure persists long after the DNA itself has been removed from the laser- irradiated chamber: the DNA's imprint in the field continues to be present when the DNA is no longer there. Poponin and his collaborators conclude that the experiment shows that a new field structure has been triggered from the physical vacuum. This field is extremely sensitive; it can be excited by a range of energies close to zero. The phantom effect is a manifestation, they claim, of a hitherto overlooked vacuum substructure.

Theories such as those we have cited here foreshadow a major leap in the scientific world picture: the physical foundations of the universe acquire an active role in all its functions and processes. Life, and even mind, is a manifestation of the constant if subtle interaction of the wave- packets classically known as "matter" with the underlying physically real zero- point vacuum field.

If the emerging world picture is to be completed, we must evolve an explicit hypothesis to describe the basic dynamics of the overall range of matter- vacuum interaction. In this writer's "quantum- vacuum interaction (QVI) hypothesis," the non- classical energy field of the vacuum (consisting of scalar as well as electromagnetic wave propagations) registers the spacetime behavior and evolution of matter- energy systems in the form of interfering wavefronts. The conserved interference patterns form a holographic information field accessible to systems with a stereodynamic pattern isomorphic to the systems that produced the patterns. The applicable process can be described as forward and reverse Fourier transforms. Hence matter-energy systems ranging from quanta to complex atomic, molecular, cellular and multicellular structures, including human brains, decode ("read out") the information they and analogous systems have encoded ("read into") the field. Given that wavefronts superpose in multiple dimensions, the ZPF of the vacuum acts as an information- conserving and transmitting universal holofield, intercon- necting systems with each other, as well as with their subsidiary systems (internal parts) and suprasystems (external environments)
 Quoting: ex soviet union

[link to goertzel.org]

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for the 3rd consecutive day i am seeing women crying on our side walks
3 on day one, 2 yesterday and 1 all ready this day having never seen one before do this in public ever rolleyes

i wonder

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In conclusion, all magnetic fields encountered in nature are generated by circulating currents. There is no fundamental difference between the fields generated by permanent magnets and those generated by currents flowing around conventional electric circuits. In the former, case the currents which generate the fields circulate on the atomic scale, whereas, in the latter case, the currents circulate on a macroscopic scale (i.e., the scale of the circuit).
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good morning aruna...

It's a whole new way of understanding something...and it makes sense...I don't understand why anyone would fear it...it connects sooooooo many things...I don't get how that can be bad.
 Quoting: Aruna


what are our current masters of the universe....

In 1660, within a few months of the restoration of Charles II, a group of 12 men, including Robert Boyle and Christopher Wren, met in London to set up a society to study the mechanisms of nature.

Freemasonry, supported by Charles II, was the guiding force behind the birth of modern science, under the cover of the Royal Society.

...remember aruna the sole purpose of civilisation is to return to the golden age.....

...the central theme of that quest is the belief that within human ability is the means to master nature....

...because they assume it was mastered within the golden age...


On this day in history 19th Nov. in 1600, was born Charles I.

Charles was a king who believed totally in the ‘Divine Right of Kings’ and engaged in a power struggle with Parliament, which he lost and paid for with his life.


....that charles was attempting to enforce the historical purpose of all kings throughout history before him...be the one with the ability.....

...what the occult/scientist/priests did in the 1600`s was what they had often done before....reccomended to the miltary that a different ruling structure be put in place whilst they continued the quest......

...to master nature
 Quoting: aether 1000431


this is what the poems are about.....

the key to the past is to be willing to know
that in a newtonian universe nothing can go
accept as a fact that gravity is not king
it`s then that our myths can begin to sing
planets once free to not stay in one spot
makes sense of history as you get the plot
this is new to all others as it is to you
one hundred plus years since the notion occured
within our secret societies something stirred
all that were touched soon began to achnowledge
secrets they kept made sense with this knowledge

looking back in time it`s possible to imagine
after the catastrophy a time of energy famine
the original environment had gone completley
and the minds of the survivors reacted meekly
natural energy centers helped their thinking
thus becoming sacred sites in an inckling
for thousands of years the sites are guarded
occult societies with faith and oaths waited

for thousands of years they maintained our cultures
often being perceived as no more than vultures
with secrets and oaths they retained status quo
despite the wars and rebellions they never let go
driven by reasons that transgressed their own living
nobody ever realy knew where this was all heading
until more recent times there grew a single notion
all societies now become coherent in their motion
is it a coincidece for it to occur at this time
or is it also a part of our suns change in shine
could it be the deeper awareness of our potential
driving each and every soverign to a singular central
are we moving into a more natural configeration
giving us the shape for our energetic interaction
this shape has the possibility to blossom what`s in store
which is our global consciouness as it comes to the fore
 Quoting: aether 1000431



feed back....rockon

"Just as Einstein's ideas would baffle a chimpanzee," said President of the Royal Society Lord Martin Rees, gaining a full understanding of how the universe works might not be possible "simply because they're beyond human brains."
13th June 2010
 Quoting: Royal Society Lord Martin Rees


ohhh lordy Lord... "Black hole blues leads to white flag".

Is this a resignation? Certainly not inspirational for up and coming talents... not good press for the youngens.

I wonder if the good Lord, in between waving the white flag, would be tempted to follow the German Physical Society and invite Crothers over for a chat.





....i believe his statement directly relates to this.....

Local-Group tests of dark-matter Concordance Cosmology: Towards a new paradigm for structure formation?
8th june 2010
[link to xxx.uni-augsburg.de]

translation

there is no dark matter in our galaxy.....

there is probably no dark matter in the universe...

"dark matter" cannot account for the observed phenomena...

the community has to adopt newtons gravitational law for large scale phenomena.....

einsteins general relativity theory has also to be revised...
 Quoting: aether 1000431



It seems that one area of study contradicts another and the theories go nowhere...
 Quoting: Aruna


your right aruna....i believe this may play a role...

although nothing knew the answer when the quest began.....

all knew the answer existed.....

the discoverer of the answer would be master(s) of the universe...

the topic of the quest..

how do you structure a quest to protect yourself from the consequences of completing the quest..????
 Quoting: aether 1000431



You keep it secret...
 Quoting: Aruna


from all within the quest....

you quest within a structure of everything has a higher authority

each knows it`s place within the structure...

nothing within the structure ever knows the true purpose of the structure

ring a bell...???
 Quoting: aether 1000431



nothing within the structure ever knows the true purpose of the structure
 Quoting: aether


..they are allowed to think they do...

..as they do or do not progress up/within the structure...

...they are assessed.....to determine if they fit..

...the true purpose of the structure...

..by those whom observe and translate the original purpose..

..which they themselves were derived via the same selection process..

...the structure is constructed to be imortal....opereated by those seeking imortality....
 Quoting: aether 1000431



Yes...wow...I get the why...still don't understand how they could keep it all from coming out though...apparently they can't anymore...it's all coming out in various ways now...I don't think it'll be much of a secret for long. Is that what they counted on...once the physical upheavals start people will be too consumed with all that to pay attention anymore?

Is that what why to me the "pyramid shape" is so prominent...to keep all lines of "communication" separate until it's time for them to meet...time for them to make sense and ALIGN.
 Quoting: Aruna


yes aruna...it`s the nature of their discoveries that is altering tradition.....

...the structure discovered the electrical nature of our universe approx. 160 years ago which unfolded to re enforse the belief that man will master nature.....which lead directly to......

the communists needed to prove man was all powerful
capitalists knew that their architect was fearful
the race was continued through world war two
germans discovered that occult ether was true
in the eighties the russians knew torsion was king
by this time the capitalists knew the same thing
the major question that is tricky to be resolved
how to apply the knowledge after what we were told
this problem is the root of all that you see
when the united nations and others all disagree
it`s not that they know and don`t want to get on
it`s the fact that so few have been told all along
secrets are easier kept than diclosed
this is why almost every door is closed
nature it`s self will settle the dilemma
look to the skys with hope and remember

.....as more was discovered by the structure it became apparent that the physical nature of our universe functioned within a manner humankind called consciousness...

....while this revelation was being digested by the structure it was noticed that our envronment had commenced to function differently through out our solar system...

.....forcing the structure to prepare for two things..

contact with an intelligent universe that naturaly communicated with all humankind....

the intelligent universe had chosen this time to communicate with all of humankind.....

...one way or another....
 Quoting: aether 1000431


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The plasma interactions in the magneticsphere are what they were drawing wasn't it...the observations were found all over the world...explains the drawings...they match the plasma interactions.

And it seems that the "environment" is gearing up for another cycle of this kind of interaction...where we are going to see the frequency increase of these visible plasma interactions?
 Quoting: Aruna


yes aruna...xena emailed anthony peratt at los alamos and one of the things peratt told him was denser plasma was entering the solar system...if i remember he linked it to the plasma cloud "fluffy"...

all matter is related to plasma including what we were taught at school is devoid of matter...space..

with thicker plasma (matter)from space entering our thinner plasma/matter (space) within the suns heliosphere there will be a corresponding effect within earths magnetosphere where earths plasma/atmosphere is contained

think the "boat".....the "sea" the "boat" moves through will become denser (thicker) and express different characteristics.....

one of those characteristics will be an increase in related natural events....

many of those events occur invisibly to the human eye but become visible as the environment alters

......spirals....earth lights
 Quoting: aether 1000431


It's altering I would say...the photos are scarce but they are out there...

[link to www.alexpetty.com]

As the plasma becomes more dense in the atmosphere...we're likely to see more of this interaction...but doesn't the human body sense this as well...the change in the atmosphere...the way our bodies are "conductors"...
 Quoting: Aruna


spot on aruna......our personalities/minds will be the first to detect it as such things as the schumann resonance react......

we know know our personalities are effected by magnetic fields......magnetic fields are created soley by circulating electric current.....

In physics and chemistry, plasma is a gas in which a certain portion of the particles are ionized. The presence of a non-negligible number of charge carriers makes the plasma electrically conductive so that it responds strongly to electromagnetic fields.

......everybodies reaction may be different but the cause will be the same....

the source of the event in the norwegian sky
is perhaps not where it`s best to turn your eye
the worry most topical for our powers that be
are the effects that occur that should not be
their worry is that the masses will all agree
that our atmosphere is not what it used to be
the simplist of things can now behave strange
as our environment is experiencing the change
this has the effect on governments not knowing
what will ever be the next odd event showing
a storyline to explain is so hard to create
when national security says mr president wait

rockon
 Quoting: aether 1000431


 Quoting: Aruna


perfect example of "everybodies different" and will detect/react accordingly...

i believe the sooner the information is authorised and taught the better ....

over time the percentage of detecting/effected people must increase

in the meantime...

... you and i are posting on a fantasy site and we can claim role play.....

..although following trinity`s posts glp becoming msm



lmao
 Quoting: aether 1000431
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That's what that whole history thread was about...how scientists/researchers...are generally the "type" of people who function disconnected from the intuition...can you imagine the bounds by which research can be done if we were to effectively have scientists who embrace that rather than scoff at it as a "useless" new age mumbojumbo...
 Quoting: Aruna


i can imagine aruna....miltary..civil service etc...the same .. tied by the same concept that holds together the structure of the quest...

....over the generations the structure got bigger but the concept remained....

....each civilisation untilsed the same structure because in practice it works at social engineering...

... it`s the only model that`s been applied since the end of the event and the begining of the quest ....

... people within the structure are given different titles when required.....everything gets re named to fit the practicalities of the time.....

...the structure and function remain the same......

...because......as we have discussed..humankind believed they knew the cause of the end of the golden age....

... that belief prompted them to reconstruct civilisation structured to discover a practical answer to never have the cause occur again....

...the aechetypes were in place before civilisation began..
 Quoting: aether 1000431


The time "before time" that was the "Golden Age", "Age of Perfect Virtue", or "Garden of Eden", depicted in one way or another in all diverse myths and religions.

....humankind only ever existed within a coherent envronment...

....within that environment...they and all other living things lived coherently........eden...

...all was ejected from their cohernt envronment into a incoherent one.... to them....

....over time humankind discovered that they had always lived within was a coherent environment....

....as this reality took root......

...aruna....this may make a good movie/book....?? rockon
 Quoting: aether 1000431


this just materialised.......

The Lightning is mentioned in the Bible 46 times and in the Quran five times, i.e., the Bible cites the Thunder nine times more than the Quran does.

Furthermore, the total words of the Bible are 788,280 while the total words of the Quran are 77,473. It follows that, the Bible has the likely of more than 10 times than the Quran word-wise to talk about the Lightning. In addition, the Bible has the prospective of more than 25 times than the Quran topic-wise to utter about the Lightning.


......indicates our ancestors attitude to electricity..

The Lightning in the Bible:

The cause(s) of Lightning formation:

The Lord sends lightning, the Lord fills his hands with lightning, the Lord scatters his lightning through the clouds, His voice strikes with lightning; However, The lightning is the Lord's arrows.

 Quoting: aether 1000431



..or does it tell us more about what our ancestors knew is the cause of all effects....
 Quoting: aether


..the archetypes were in place before civilisation was re created....
 Quoting: aether 1000431


The Lightning is mentioned in the Bible 46 times and in the Quran five times, i.e., the Bible cites the Thunder nine times more than the Quran does.
 Quoting: aether


....from lightning to....

24:35 Allah is the Light of the heavens and the earth. The Parable of His Light is as if there were a Niche and within it a Lamp: the Lamp enclosed in Glass: the glass as it were a brilliant star: Lit from a blessed Tree, an Olive, neither of the east nor of the west, whose oil is well-nigh luminous, though fire scarce touched it: Light upon Light! Allah doth guide whom He will to His Light: Allah doth set forth Parables for men: and Allah doth know all things.

.......old technology that appeared magical..???
 Quoting: aether 1000431


Incoming...all directions right? I love it when it all comes together...in a nice messy pile...but I'm getting NOWHERE with Saturn...there is something about it being the sun...that was "put out" as in let there be light...the reason for the darkness initially...and I'm getting that it fits in how to draw the concept of "time" into it...that's all I get is that saturn and time are connected...
 Quoting: Aruna


yes this is how saturn is depicted.....

[link to vigilantcitizen.com]

...following it`s worship helps.....

[link to www.varchive.org]

...using saturns ancient name....(c)kronos...

[link to www.angelfire.com]

[link to www.crystalinks.com]

....the modern thinker who got it...

Velikovsky
[link to www.varchive.org]

[link to www.tmgnow.com]

...the present thinkers..

[link to www.thunderbolts.info]
 Quoting: aether 1000431






You've been busy! I can't wait to go through Velikovsky's work...you mentioned Radin's work before and Kaos emailed me some interesting stuff about noetic sciences and it's surprising how much of his work is mentioned throughout that field...

But Saturn...IS RA EL.
 Quoting: Aruna


within those links you will see ra is saturn and el is saturn.....

....which you have shown indicated the creative thinking behind the origin of the name israel.....

.....imagine the power within the knowledge of knowing that the god (sun) in the sky that all to see is not the "real" god.....

...the real god (sun) is the one that has chosen to become invisible....

...the one whom was there since the begining......

...the achetype of the quest....
 Quoting: aether 1000431
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"On July 1, 2011 at 7:53 am GMT the NEW (moon) solar eclipse will be born, evolve and grow for 1226.05 years."

i never knew that
thanks cheer

Statistics for Solar Eclipses of Saros 156

Solar eclipses of Saros 156 all occur at the Moon’s descending node and the Moon moves northward with each eclipse. The series will begin with a partial eclipse in the southern hemisphere on 2011 Jul 01. The series will end with a partial eclipse in the northern hemisphere on 3237 Jul 14. The total duration of Saros series 156 is 1226.05 years. In summary:

First Eclipse = 2011 Jul 01 08:39:30

Last Eclipse = 3237 Jul 14 10:57:04

Duration of Saros 156 = 1226.05 Years

[link to eclipse.gsfc.nasa.gov]
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"I love this eclipse now- it confirmed what I've been saying all along (see the article below)"

"I almost forgot Lilith! The Black Ice Queen of Cups herself is square this eclipse, while Ceres is also square Venus. Lovers versus mothers, dark goddess versus light goddess, the theme continues.. Maybe this is the birth of recognizing how we polarize and demonize our shadow selves. This eclipse could herald the start of a journey to real understanding of the “evil” twin that lives inside of all of us"

yes, we will go with that one cheer

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