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Marko Rodin - Smart Lazer Technology

 
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so what have we got to
we have gotten into our golden age and that feels "alien" (sorry second p}
we have got to where that age ends and where thought forms begin , it seems, and our customs that began design of thought within shape

yes

slowly we are getting a picture
 Quoting: aether


but we must remember
second p is correct
it is all us
we may have received visitors
don`t know yet
but it is all our history and kiss and cuddle our ancestors cos they love us and
w/f is right
without us
they have nothing
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so what have we got to
we have gotten into our golden age and that feels "alien" (sorry second p}
we have got to where that age ends and where thought forms begin , it seems, and our customs that began design of thought within shape

yes

slowly we are getting a picture
 Quoting: aether


but we must remember
second p is correct
it is all us
we may have received visitors
don`t know yet
but it is all our history and kiss and cuddle our ancestors cos they love us and
w/f is right
without us
they have nothing
 Quoting: aether


and i believe they don`t deserve nothing
they are proud of us
that is for sure
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What about stories of our ancestors the Lemurians and Atlantians? The high technology.

Is it only certain genetics that can remote view?
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Idk about remote viewing, but I believe it is quite different to observe versus contact and connection. Mostly to me, its insanity not to be open to them, our ancestors
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so what have we got to
we have gotten into our golden age and that feels "alien" (sorry second p}
we have got to where that age ends and where thought forms begin , it seems, and our customs that began design of thought within shape

yes

slowly we are getting a picture
 Quoting: aether


but we must remember
second p is correct
it is all us
we may have received visitors
don`t know yet
but it is all our history and kiss and cuddle our ancestors cos they love us and
w/f is right
without us
they have nothing
 Quoting: aether


Except they ARE us. In the water we drink, the food we eat, the air we breathe. To separate that knowledge and act as if they aren't us? It seems silly to me. Just as silly as giving reverence to things still here with us and in us. I could no more worship my ancestors than worship anything else. They were tied to paradigms that make no sense in the modern sense culminating in the current "us", we're they're "finished product"... no more, no less. No need for reverence, IMO. Respect? Yes... to a degree. But then there's resentment, too as their out dated ideas and thought forms have no bearing on modern life. What's dead never dies, it just changes, becomes more and we're the more it became. For that, I thank them... but the way forward isn't the way back. We give them too much credit and yet not enough, lol.
"Chaos exists as a pool of possibilities that order draws from and organizes according to creative desire. Some things get tossed down the memory hole only to reemerge later when the need arises. Neither chaos nor order holds a monopoly on creation and destruction, creative or destructive chaos exists as does creative and destructive order." - ME! Yeah, Bea :) snoocherdoodle@gmail.com
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so what have we got to
we have gotten into our golden age and that feels "alien" (sorry second p}
we have got to where that age ends and where thought forms begin , it seems, and our customs that began design of thought within shape

yes

slowly we are getting a picture
 Quoting: aether


but we must remember
second p is correct
it is all us
we may have received visitors
don`t know yet
but it is all our history and kiss and cuddle our ancestors cos they love us and
w/f is right
without us
they have nothing
 Quoting: aether


Except they ARE us. In the water we drink, the food we eat, the air we breathe. To separate that knowledge and act as if they aren't us? It seems silly to me. Just as silly as giving reverence to things still here with us and in us. I could no more worship my ancestors than worship anything else. They were tied to paradigms that make no sense in the modern sense culminating in the current "us", we're they're "finished product"... no more, no less. No need for reverence, IMO. Respect? Yes... to a degree. But then there's resentment, too as their out dated ideas and thought forms have no bearing on modern life. What's dead never dies, it just changes, becomes more and we're the more it became. For that, I thank them... but the way forward isn't the way back. We give them too much credit and yet not enough, lol.
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LOL

that`s my sister
you can`t miss her

xoxo
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LOL

that`s my sister
you can`t miss her

xoxo
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still laughing
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You can't judge their actions with your knowledge today, for they had it not. to understand any of what they were faced with you would have to travel back in time...meaning turn back knowledge as well to understand and get a better picture. Without them, we would not be here.
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one thing that crosses my mind is sensitives with previous life experience of uncomfortable nature would naturally detect the contact thus memory of that which was uncomfortable

we must remember that and be gentle with their senses of emotive impact of a nature others, with no memory of past experience, can never imagine experiencing
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one thing that crosses my mind is sensitives with previous life experience of uncomfortable nature would naturally detect the contact thus memory of that which was uncomfortable

we must remember that and be gentle with their senses of emotive impact of a nature others, with no memory of past experience, can never imagine experiencing
 Quoting: aether


which is one of the reasons we go step by step and laugh a lot
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You can't judge their actions with your knowledge today, for they had it not. to understand any of what they were faced with you would have to travel back in time...meaning turn back knowledge as well to understand and get a better picture. Without them, we would not be here.
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I'm not arguing or judging. I'm just questioning the belief system that elevates historical paradigms that have gotten us here in spite of ourselves over living in the past and glorifying notions that are abominable in the modern context. Their knowledge isn't what I question, the way they used it? Yeah. There's a lack of care or concern about things that matter that taints my attitude, mind you. Like cruelty to animals, the geneflucation to "royalty", the supserstitous beliefs that got the free thinkers torched. Nostalgia's an awesome thing to visit... thinking it's the way to return, however, I see as a step backward and limiting to society as a whole.
"Chaos exists as a pool of possibilities that order draws from and organizes according to creative desire. Some things get tossed down the memory hole only to reemerge later when the need arises. Neither chaos nor order holds a monopoly on creation and destruction, creative or destructive chaos exists as does creative and destructive order." - ME! Yeah, Bea :) snoocherdoodle@gmail.com
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one thing that crosses my mind is sensitives with previous life experience of uncomfortable nature would naturally detect the contact thus memory of that which was uncomfortable

we must remember that and be gentle with their senses of emotive impact of a nature others, with no memory of past experience, can never imagine experiencing
 Quoting: aether


which is one of the reasons we go step by step and laugh a lot
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hmm

hf
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You can't judge their actions with your knowledge today, for they had it not. to understand any of what they were faced with you would have to travel back in time...meaning turn back knowledge as well to understand and get a better picture. Without them, we would not be here.
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I'm not arguing or judging. I'm just questioning the belief system that elevates historical paradigms that have gotten us here in spite of ourselves over living in the past and glorifying notions that are abominable in the modern context. Their knowledge isn't what I question, the way they used it? Yeah. There's a lack of care or concern about things that matter that taints my attitude, mind you. Like cruelty to animals, the geneflucation to "royalty", the supserstitous beliefs that got the free thinkers torched. Nostalgia's an awesome thing to visit... thinking it's the way to return, however, I see as a step backward and limiting to society as a whole.
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Imagine what superstitions we think we know to be right when it is wayyy off base now.
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one thing that crosses my mind is sensitives with previous life experience of uncomfortable nature would naturally detect the contact thus memory of that which was uncomfortable

we must remember that and be gentle with their senses of emotive impact of a nature others, with no memory of past experience, can never imagine experiencing
 Quoting: aether


Yup, like those that cheered when the guillotine wheeled out, wove their little red fabric instead of saying "wtf? this isn't humane, this isn't human!" Like those who'd bow to kings who claimed godhood and fought to the death for them. Like those who were burned at the stake not because they were witches, but because those in power wanted to claim their possessions. And those from time immemorial who made slaves of their fellow man just to make their lives easier... and I'm not talking current as in the US and that paradigm, I'm talking the Romans Spartacus fought against. I'm sure many of our ancestors were good people, victim of their circumstances... but there's just as many who weren't. So we learn from them, from their mistakes... but it doesn't mean we have to revere them in the "those were the good old days" past. They weren't so good, IMO... nothing worth emulating as a path forward. We KNOW better now.
"Chaos exists as a pool of possibilities that order draws from and organizes according to creative desire. Some things get tossed down the memory hole only to reemerge later when the need arises. Neither chaos nor order holds a monopoly on creation and destruction, creative or destructive chaos exists as does creative and destructive order." - ME! Yeah, Bea :) snoocherdoodle@gmail.com
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I have no idea what your ancestors are trying to get you to believe...I only know my experience...and mine are trying to tell their story, unlike what is written.
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My what if is, what if you go back far enough to the last golden age and it isn't superstitious eating hearts and sacrifices of the dark ages. What if they knew more than we do now?
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one thing that crosses my mind is sensitives with previous life experience of uncomfortable nature would naturally detect the contact thus memory of that which was uncomfortable

we must remember that and be gentle with their senses of emotive impact of a nature others, with no memory of past experience, can never imagine experiencing
 Quoting: aether


Yup, like those that cheered when the guillotine wheeled out, wove their little red fabric instead of saying "wtf? this isn't humane, this isn't human!" Like those who'd bow to kings who claimed godhood and fought to the death for them. Like those who were burned at the stake not because they were witches, but because those in power wanted to claim their possessions. And those from time immemorial who made slaves of their fellow man just to make their lives easier... and I'm not talking current as in the US and that paradigm, I'm talking the Romans Spartacus fought against. I'm sure many of our ancestors were good people, victim of their circumstances... but there's just as many who weren't. So we learn from them, from their mistakes... but it doesn't mean we have to revere them in the "those were the good old days" past. They weren't so good, IMO... nothing worth emulating as a path forward. We KNOW better now.
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hf
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My what if is, what if you go back far enough to the last golden age and it isn't superstitious eating hearts and sacrifices of the dark ages. What if they knew more than we do now?
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And what if they didn't? Speculation doesn't mean confirmation. I understand you have much reverence for your ancestors... and I don't, but not for the reasons you think. I feel like you think it's a lack of respect on my part, but it's not. It just feels like by looking back and back we ignore the now, what's in front of us.
"Chaos exists as a pool of possibilities that order draws from and organizes according to creative desire. Some things get tossed down the memory hole only to reemerge later when the need arises. Neither chaos nor order holds a monopoly on creation and destruction, creative or destructive chaos exists as does creative and destructive order." - ME! Yeah, Bea :) snoocherdoodle@gmail.com
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and i discovered something
no matter where you go
backwards to locations our outwards to far away locations you are always you thus you can and do only translate what you experience the same way you do here in the now

that is the reason remote viewers get so much wrong
they don`t get our present environment so they by default will not get any other because it is all the same structure and function

i thought that funny too
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This is inline with our convo about why they couldn't make the exotic tech work properly.

And, is inline with Dion's words of ridding the self of natural thoughts that we have learned through being submerged in the human condition; bias.
"Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body,
but rather to skid in broadside, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming, "Wow! What a Ride!"

We do not Die, We Awaken to the Dream that We Lived.
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My what if is, what if you go back far enough to the last golden age and it isn't superstitious eating hearts and sacrifices of the dark ages. What if they knew more than we do now?
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And what if they didn't? Speculation doesn't mean confirmation. I understand you have much reverence for your ancestors... and I don't, but not for the reasons you think. I feel like you think it's a lack of respect on my part, but it's not. It just feels like by looking back and back we ignore the now, what's in front of us.
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wrong ac. I believe in the now.
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so what have we got to
we have gotten into our golden age and that feels "alien" (sorry second p}
we have got to where that age ends and where thought forms begin , it seems, and our customs that began design of thought within shape

yes

slowly we are getting a picture
 Quoting: aether


but we must remember
second p is correct
it is all us
we may have received visitors
don`t know yet
but it is all our history and kiss and cuddle our ancestors cos they love us and
w/f is right
without us
they have nothing
 Quoting: aether


Except they ARE us. In the water we drink, the food we eat, the air we breathe. To separate that knowledge and act as if they aren't us? It seems silly to me. Just as silly as giving reverence to things still here with us and in us. I could no more worship my ancestors than worship anything else. They were tied to paradigms that make no sense in the modern sense culminating in the current "us", we're they're "finished product"... no more, no less. No need for reverence, IMO. Respect? Yes... to a degree. But then there's resentment, too as their out dated ideas and thought forms have no bearing on modern life. What's dead never dies, it just changes, becomes more and we're the more it became. For that, I thank them... but the way forward isn't the way back. We give them too much credit and yet not enough, lol.
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Joule, you have a gift.

Funny, we all have our areas of expertise. Our way of expressing thoughts that others cannot put to words.

This is beautiful. I 'felt' this before reading what you wrote, and there was no way I could possibly describe the feeling. You did.

We are like different facets. And when light shines on a particular facet, that one shines and absorbs the information to reflect it in a way the other facets can understand.
"Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body,
but rather to skid in broadside, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming, "Wow! What a Ride!"

We do not Die, We Awaken to the Dream that We Lived.
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My what if is, what if you go back far enough to the last golden age and it isn't superstitious eating hearts and sacrifices of the dark ages. What if they knew more than we do now?
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And what if they didn't? Speculation doesn't mean confirmation. I understand you have much reverence for your ancestors... and I don't, but not for the reasons you think. I feel like you think it's a lack of respect on my part, but it's not. It just feels like by looking back and back we ignore the now, what's in front of us.
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wrong ac. I believe in the now.
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I do feel like to be centered and know yourself is to look to the past and the future and outward.

(take believe out of my post up top, don't like that word)
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That's why I believe seeing with heart...if the heart is pure, then so should the mind.
But I'm sure some would disagree...
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You can't judge their actions with your knowledge today, for they had it not. to understand any of what they were faced with you would have to travel back in time...meaning turn back knowledge as well to understand and get a better picture. Without them, we would not be here.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1084634


I'm not arguing or judging. I'm just questioning the belief system that elevates historical paradigms that have gotten us here in spite of ourselves over living in the past and glorifying notions that are abominable in the modern context. Their knowledge isn't what I question, the way they used it? Yeah. There's a lack of care or concern about things that matter that taints my attitude, mind you. Like cruelty to animals, the geneflucation to "royalty", the supserstitous beliefs that got the free thinkers torched. Nostalgia's an awesome thing to visit... thinking it's the way to return, however, I see as a step backward and limiting to society as a whole.
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Was it a means to an end that was important. Justify the means as long as the outcome was 'right'.

Without proper knowledge or information, this is the only option.
"Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body,
but rather to skid in broadside, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming, "Wow! What a Ride!"

We do not Die, We Awaken to the Dream that We Lived.
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That is my desire...pure heart, pure mind therefor it is...

If you desire it to be something different, it will be for you.
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Have you ever seen who do you think you are? Reba was on not too long ago, I thought she was going to freak when she learned of her ancestors with slaves...she could not understand for she did not live during that time. When she got to her 8x great grandparents and how the mother died shortly after birth and how the father sent their son on a ship at 9 years of age whom was also recorded as a slave...had to work off many years in the tobacco fields...but after the journey and discovery of his sacrifice...she learned it was the only way he could start a new life and live it. She learned it was because of that great sacrifice, she was standing here today...she cried and told them she understood and thanked them...
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That is my desire...pure heart, pure mind therefor it is...

If you desire it to be something different, it will be for you.
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And I agree. If purity is what you seek, then seek you should. I've never been one to seek purity for IMO purity lacks awareness. What I seek? Compassionate heart that trades purity for understanding and lack of judgement. Open, inquisitive mind that trades purity for that ability to create and innovate. In a pure state, I believe we'd be grazing with our pets and cattle, uncaring and unaware of the world around us. Incorruptibility and freedom, those are the targets my arrows seek. (Otherwise I'd feel like a sitting duck for those who don't share my vision!)

Note: (I'm getting bad of putting them in to clarify, but it's only to take the sting out of what might be construed as judgement...) I see innocence as seeing the world for what it is and embracing and loving other any way, in spite of and sometimes because of their faults. It's not my place to forgive them as many times, the label of sin gets slapped on because of the perceptions of others, not the act of sin itself.

I realize my reaction to their actions comes from my inability to see the world through their eyes, thus I have no right to assume they mean what I "think" they mean. I try not to project my experiences/projections on the words of another. THAT is the height of madness as we can both say the same thing in different words and fight about it... when we're stating the same thing, lol.

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My desire is love, patience, and discrimination.
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Have you ever seen who do you think you are? Reba was on not too long ago, I thought she was going to freak when she learned of her ancestors with slaves...she could not understand for she did not live during that time. When she got to her 8x great grandparents and how the mother died shortly after birth and how the father sent their son on a ship at 9 years of age whom was also recorded as a slave...had to work off many years in the tobacco fields...but after the journey and discovery of his sacrifice...she learned it was the only way he could start a new life and live it. She learned it was because of that great sacrifice, she was standing here today...she cried and told them she understood and thanked them...
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No, no I haven't. I make my history clear. I was given to people who didn't create me at six weeks old. I found out I was given to them at six years old. Now while this bothered me in a sickeningly profound way for the longest time, I found my attitude shifted when I pulled myself from the morass of "poor me". How? I watched blood families around me treat each other as doormats, dishrags and punching bags. For as many "acts of love" I witnessed, I saw just as many "acts of hate" that were automatically expected to be forgiven due to the blood relation. I also found a complete freedom from the past by realizing that once you "know" your blood ties, your birth right, you're tied to the sins of your fathers and mothers. IF and only IF you allow it.

It's like when my mom, not known for her tact, assumed that I'd be militantly pro-life since I was adopted. She freaked when I actually considered every side of the issue without emotion. While I am pro-life, more so because of the times we live in where if your condom breaks there's Plan B... I found myself in my birth mother's shoes... and realized it would have totally been her right to choose to abort me. I'm thankful she didn't, but wouldn't condemn her if she had. That wasn't my path to walk, not one I'd choose, but I have no right to decide for someone else, even, especially an ancestor. She's part of me always, even if I never know her... but she's not all I am and aside from that action, she has nothing at all to do with me. The past is the past, we can learn from it, but it feels a mistake to revere it as the "good old days" and assume they had their shit together anymore than we do in the here and now.
"Chaos exists as a pool of possibilities that order draws from and organizes according to creative desire. Some things get tossed down the memory hole only to reemerge later when the need arises. Neither chaos nor order holds a monopoly on creation and destruction, creative or destructive chaos exists as does creative and destructive order." - ME! Yeah, Bea :) snoocherdoodle@gmail.com
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Revered good ole days and worshipping seems to be something you are stuck on...it is what it is...good or bad...but knowing it seems to make knowing it more clear...no one ever said anything about worshipping...in fact, they are not comming to anyone for worship...they are here to help us in the next transition.


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