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Marko Rodin - Smart Lazer Technology

 
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so what were these guys talking about?

Maya (illusion)

Maya in Indian religions, has multiple meanings, usually quoted as "illusion", centered on the fact that we do not experience the environment itself but rather a projection of it, created by us.
 Quoting: observation

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now if you stop reading there it makes sense
 Quoting: aether


The word origin is derived from the Sanskrit roots ma ("not") and ya, generally translated as an indicative article meaning "that". The mystic teachings in Vedanta are centered on a fundamental truth of the universe that cannot be reduced to a concept or word for the ordinary mind to manipulate due to the impossibility to create a complete, perfect and accurate semantic web.
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ahhh

seems very one way that as in :
you and "all that is not you" knowing each other "communicating" is not in their imagination as in:

"Synergy is two or more things functioning together to produce a result not independently obtainable" is off the list of options

hmmmm

manipulate
Handle or control (a tool, mechanism, etc.), typically in a skillful manner:

weird word to imagine in the context of our universe
no different from occult/religion the world over
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ma or m is matter. So it that what we are not...matter, and we are energy? 2 working together =synergy?
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exactly! The part in red is the ideal expression.
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and the reason we are talking about it is because our environment is altering us and in doing so we are forced by our environment to face reality, quite literally.

no cocoon, no sleep through, we are forced to do it with eyes wide open (alive)

a mental process caused by physical effect

 Quoting: aether


um...I've heard that before. Not here. It just sent a massive surge through my body. lol, and SFAV just mentioned de javu. It was a de javu on steroids. Damn that was/is weird. That is the entire point of working through it the way we have been. That is the reason for all the lessons, the reconciliation of karma, understanding the ego, reincarnation, the dreams, the learning, the knowledge, etc.

ALL OF IT so we can experience it this time around, with our eyes open.
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Funny how that works huh chuckle
The truth is in your eyes.....

Pull me from the gallows
of this fiber-optic nation
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typically used for grasping and manipulating food
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you know their attitude to our environment gives me a headache
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An ancient Mayan skull made of volcanic rock and believed to have magic powers to protect humanity on Dec. 21, 2012 — the date widely interpreted by modern scholars to be that of the end of the world according to the Mayan calendar — somehow took a tumble and broke, UPI reported.

It was unclear whether the skull, named Quauthemoc, was dropped or simply fell. A piece of its chin chipped off in the accident.

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Talk about silencing the lambs...
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A chip off the old block, eh?

Funny shizzle
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ma or m is matter. So it that what we are not...matter, and we are energy? 2 working together =synergy?
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your right i am sure
my "issue" is i detect the original motive for their choice of words
not knowing plus desire to control
today we can look at their same words and apply what we know this day to make work (sense) of what they never could

glad you here neener
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you know their attitude to our environment gives me a headache
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An ancient Mayan skull made of volcanic rock and believed to have magic powers to protect humanity on Dec. 21, 2012 — the date widely interpreted by modern scholars to be that of the end of the world according to the Mayan calendar — somehow took a tumble and broke, UPI reported.

It was unclear whether the skull, named Quauthemoc, was dropped or simply fell. A piece of its chin chipped off in the accident.

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Talk about silencing the lambs...
 Quoting: ArunaLuna


oh
good to see you
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Engravings of Female Genitalia May Be World's Oldest Cave Art
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ma or m is matter. So it that what we are not...matter, and we are energy? 2 working together =synergy?
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your right i am sure
my "issue" is i detect the original motive for their choice of words
not knowing plus desire to control
today we can look at their same words and apply what we know this day to make work (sense) of what they never could

glad you here neener
 Quoting: aether


I understand exacty what you are saying....I got the same, hence my posts with ancestor last evening...on a much smaller matter of course, but they learn from us, and it is very differnt than what they have ever known because they have not experienced it as we do today. Remember, they only survive if we do...but this is our time...not theirs...ancestor made that very clear I thought to both of us, or you heard that...right? She said it is our history we now write...
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typically used for grasping and manipulating food
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In modern humans the mandibular arch is formed by fusion at the centre of two separate bones, a process complete by two years of age. The thickening of this arch at the centre forms the prominent and distinctive chin. The well-defined chin and prominent nose of humans interrupt the generally vertical profile of adult human faces and are said to be distinguishing characteristics separating modern humans from prehuman ancestors and from other primates

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ma or m is matter. So it that what we are not...matter, and we are energy? 2 working together =synergy?
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your right i am sure
my "issue" is i detect the original motive for their choice of words
not knowing plus desire to control
today we can look at their same words and apply what we know this day to make work (sense) of what they never could

glad you here neener
 Quoting: aether


I understand exacty what you are saying....I got the same, hence my posts with ancestor last evening...on a much smaller matter of course, but they learn from us, and it is very differnt than what they have ever known because they have not experienced it as we do today. Remember, they only survive if we do...but this is our time...not theirs...ancestor made that very clear I thought to both of us, or you heard that...right? She said it is our history we now write...
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well if you remember they don`t talk to me because i don`t see it their way, they utilize what i do because it fits what they desire to do
that being said in our past few weeks i have become more empathic to their way of seeing
i believe i wrote it on this thread, so, it is becoming easier for me to listen
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hmmm...yes I remember, but for some reason I thought you were communicating...must have been when you stated you know they love us...and are very proud of us...my misunderstanding.

but remember, where you may not agree because of unknowns, the same for them...I do believe there is a perfect place to meet...centre...all in good time I guess.
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hmmm...yes I remember, but for some reason I thought you were communicating...must have been when you stated you know they love us...and are very proud of us...my misunderstanding.

but remember, where you may not agree because of unknowns, the same for them...I do believe there is a perfect place to meet...centre...all in good time I guess.
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I think I'm a bit lost as to what is the original question, or what are we to learn from the ancients? Was it the golden age of the past?
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hmmm...yes I remember, but for some reason I thought you were communicating...must have been when you stated you know they love us...and are very proud of us...my misunderstanding.

but remember, where you may not agree because of unknowns, the same for them...I do believe there is a perfect place to meet...centre...all in good time I guess.
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I think I'm a bit lost as to what is the original question, or what are we to learn from the ancients? Was it the golden age of the past?
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I'm not so sure...this shit obviously takes much time. If we spoke the same damn language it would be much easier...

It could very well just be that they wish to survive and go on to wherever we are...lol

But in my own opinion, I believe to understand one another better, then we need communication...

I don't guess the past really matters much, because she did say stop looking back that this was our time...that is just hard for me to do right now, because my ancestry project takes me back....that was just weird timming of it I guess.
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hmmm...yes I remember, but for some reason I thought you were communicating...must have been when you stated you know they love us...and are very proud of us...my misunderstanding.

but remember, where you may not agree because of unknowns, the same for them...I do believe there is a perfect place to meet...centre...all in good time I guess.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 16173868


well that is them and it is an easy emotion to translate

like on aruna`s human energy thread when they invited me to feel as them, and i did, showing me we are the same

having wepwawet as clear as day for several months making introductions

etc, etc,

all part of a process not of my making but one that i don`t mind participating in that seems to fit into my own motives
the funny part is it seems to me often that i am the "alien" personality they are getting used to
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why does she not just tell me her name? and why is her dna of national security?
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hmmm...yes I remember, but for some reason I thought you were communicating...must have been when you stated you know they love us...and are very proud of us...my misunderstanding.

but remember, where you may not agree because of unknowns, the same for them...I do believe there is a perfect place to meet...centre...all in good time I guess.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 16173868


I think I'm a bit lost as to what is the original question, or what are we to learn from the ancients? Was it the golden age of the past?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 12805141


I'm not so sure...this shit obviously takes much time. If we spoke the same damn language it would be much easier...

It could very well just be that they wish to survive and go on to wherever we are...lol

But in my own opinion, I believe to understand one another better, then we need communication...

I don't guess the past really matters much, because she did say stop looking back that this was our time...that is just hard for me to do right now, because my ancestry project takes me back....that was just weird timming of it I guess.
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This is where I have a hard time following. I guess because I think of the past as us in the past. Which is good to look at for wisdom, but I feel like humanity is timeless. And in that timelessness there is only one language and understanding. A whole picture per say.

So I think timelessness = energy, time=matter. But the energy doesn't loose the information, just needs to rediscover it.
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So the language is different because of different times in matter?

And matter evolves and devolves back into itself.
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If the past were speaking to us, I'd like to think it's saying "don't repeat the mistakes we made". The problem with that? Some old paradigms prefer the repetition thus making listening without context or a clear picture of all the variables leaves us vulnerable to falling into yet another trap... and assuming those that speak from the past don't have their own ulterior motives and always have our best interests at heart. Some of it's true, some of it's false, most of it's meaningless whether true or false.
"Chaos exists as a pool of possibilities that order draws from and organizes according to creative desire. Some things get tossed down the memory hole only to reemerge later when the need arises. Neither chaos nor order holds a monopoly on creation and destruction, creative or destructive chaos exists as does creative and destructive order." - ME! Yeah, Bea :) snoocherdoodle@gmail.com
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why does she not just tell me her name? and why is her dna of national security?
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According to the Egyptians, if you know their name you will have power over them...because names have power.
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This is where I have a hard time following. I guess because I think of the past as us in the past. Which is good to look at for wisdom, but I feel like humanity is timeless. And in that timelessness there is only one language and understanding. A whole picture per say.

So I think timelessness = energy, time=matter. But the energy doesn't loose the information, just needs to rediscover it.
 Quoting: ac


i get your point and aruna and second p tell the same
and they are right, as you are
but
there do exist physical and mental differences which makes it awkward for both the ancient and the today to experience it your way

remember our planet`s environment has altered and with it the shape of all things on it, our past archeology shows us that

our thinking was different to and our natural abilities we utilized in daily life

but there has to be a point of us knowing who we are
so
we are discovering what we were as a consequence of discovering what we are

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This is where I have a hard time following. I guess because I think of the past as us in the past. Which is good to look at for wisdom, but I feel like humanity is timeless. And in that timelessness there is only one language and understanding. A whole picture per say.

So I think timelessness = energy, time=matter. But the energy doesn't loose the information, just needs to rediscover it.
 Quoting: ac


i get your point and aruna and second p tell the same
and they are right, as you are
but
there do exist physical and mental differences which makes it awkward for both the ancient and the today to experience it your way

remember our planet`s environment has altered and with it the shape of all things on it, our past archeology shows us that

our thinking was different to and our natural abilities we utilized in daily life

but there has to be a point of us knowing who we are
so
we are discovering what we were as a consequence of discovering what we are
 Quoting: aether


wow, I actually get something your saying! lol!
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If the past were speaking to us, I'd like to think it's saying "don't repeat the mistakes we made". The problem with that? Some old paradigms prefer the repetition thus making listening without context or a clear picture of all the variables leaves us vulnerable to falling into yet another trap... and assuming those that speak from the past don't have their own ulterior motives and always have our best interests at heart. Some of it's true, some of it's false, most of it's meaningless whether true or false.
 Quoting: Nanellen


well it seems when we go back far enough the message is
what we have discovered recently works because once, a long time ago, it worked before
the funny part is, it was so long ago that our rediscoveries have absolutely no meaning for perhaps 10,000`s of thousands of years back
it looks very likely we are hovering between 37000 years and and 50,000 years ago
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If the past were speaking to us, I'd like to think it's saying "don't repeat the mistakes we made". The problem with that? Some old paradigms prefer the repetition thus making listening without context or a clear picture of all the variables leaves us vulnerable to falling into yet another trap... and assuming those that speak from the past don't have their own ulterior motives and always have our best interests at heart. Some of it's true, some of it's false, most of it's meaningless whether true or false.
 Quoting: Nanellen


Which makes me think of the places that hold certain energy and in that area it wants to replicate the same thing over and over and over...whether good or bad.
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Both your posts fit!

Its just taking so much time and it takes away from those I love...I was telling her that last night...but the bigger picture is universal...I'm just a tiny spec in it yet it feels like the weight of the world...

All matter returns back to its original place...
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Both your posts fit!

Its just taking so much time and it takes away from those I love...I was telling her that last night...but the bigger picture is universal...I'm just a tiny spec in it yet it feels like the weight of the world...

All matter returns back to its original place...
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Which is just a simple yet cryptic way of saying that all matter was once one. In our closed system, where matter recycles, the matter that comprises us has never been "ours", it coalesces into us, out of us and back again. Then we're back to we are our ancestors, we are stardust, we're everything that is, was and will be. There's one single point of origin any way you slice it.
"Chaos exists as a pool of possibilities that order draws from and organizes according to creative desire. Some things get tossed down the memory hole only to reemerge later when the need arises. Neither chaos nor order holds a monopoly on creation and destruction, creative or destructive chaos exists as does creative and destructive order." - ME! Yeah, Bea :) snoocherdoodle@gmail.com
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Aether, was she by chance wearing a red and white checkered scarf on her head?
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Respectfully disagree...I don't think it has ever been just one...too complex...which is why one serves the other...probably not the best words to explain what I feel...but anyway
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Both your posts fit!

Its just taking so much time and it takes away from those I love...I was telling her that last night...but the bigger picture is universal...I'm just a tiny spec in it yet it feels like the weight of the world...

All matter returns back to its original place...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1095970


Which is just a simple yet cryptic way of saying that all matter was once one. In our closed system, where matter recycles, the matter that comprises us has never been "ours", it coalesces into us, out of us and back again. Then we're back to we are our ancestors, we are stardust, we're everything that is, was and will be. There's one single point of origin any way you slice it.
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memory ?

memory of origin field which for convenience we call gravity

keeps all memory within original location of memory until memory possess self awareness that matches our self aware universe

then either mechanically (action/distance near instant) or by death (deform) memory (you) can relocate (reform/re born) outside of magnetosphere/heliosphere

the knowing that is required to mechanically (ship) travel action/distance forces self awareness to match the self awareness of the medium you travel through
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Respectfully disagree...I don't think it has ever been just one...too complex...which is why one serves the other...probably not the best words to explain what I feel...but anyway
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The origin of all I've witnessed feels like a singularity from which all things were once contracted into then expanded with great force, an enormous pool of chaos (as in the original usage of the term, stable/unstable pool of energy/matter) that desired individuation thus "orgasmically" exploding out to become everything. Like a huge pool of creative potential with an opposite pool that collects this energy/matter back to recycle it back in, but the opposites are the same ad infinitum. I can't say I fully understand it and I DEFINITELY can't express it via math... I could show you if I touched your hand (my weird talent, lmao), but barring that, I can only use the limitations of words to describe it. All things were one, are one, will be one again, but they weren't one, were never one and will never be one again. There's no duality in it, again... hard to explain that. The complexity is both simple and ineffable. In other words, it makes sense if you see it, not so much with description via limited language.
"Chaos exists as a pool of possibilities that order draws from and organizes according to creative desire. Some things get tossed down the memory hole only to reemerge later when the need arises. Neither chaos nor order holds a monopoly on creation and destruction, creative or destructive chaos exists as does creative and destructive order." - ME! Yeah, Bea :) snoocherdoodle@gmail.com
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Aether, was she by chance wearing a red and white checkered scarf on her head?
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no

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