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Marko Rodin - Smart Lazer Technology

 
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Here is an indisputable fact. If you will trace the claimed history of ancient nations backwards, you will invariably reach a point at which humankind lived in the shadow of the gods. This distant epoch--what the Egyptians called the "time of the primeval gods"--cries out for clarification. Originally, the gods rule the world. First in an age of gold, but this age was followed by catastrophe and cosmic upheaval. That is the archetypal memory repeated around the world.

In their first appearance, the gods are celestial through and through. As the stories are told and re-told across the centuries, however, these celestial powers are progressively localized, re-entering the chronicles in increasingly human guise. All of the profound cosmic events expressed in the earliest myths are eventually brought down to earth. Through each culture’s intimate identification with its own gods across the centuries, the cosmic powers eventually emerged as legendary ancestors of the nation telling the story.
 Quoting: observation

 Quoting: aether


This always reminds me of the As Above, So Below stuff that Apollo and others always reference as a truth. As if what happens in the celestial heavens is mirrored within the human epics.

I have a very difficult time believing that. What makes more sense, is that celestial events become personified, in an attempt for humans to better cope/understand/relate to events that are witnessed, yet transcend us.
 Quoting: Swinging on Spirals


hey swinger
you should ask apollo which translation he uses and what he believes it means

A new translation bypassing the Latin has just been published by Nineveh Shadrach from the original Arabic of Book on the Secret of Creation (also named Book of the Causes) attributed to Apollonius of Tyana.

It contains an accurate commentary that can't be doubted.

It states: What is the above is from the below and the below is from the above. The work of wonders is from one.

And all things sprang from this essence through a single projection. How marvelous is its work! It is the principle part of the world and its custodian.

Its father is the sun and its mother is the moon. Thus the wind bore it within it and the earth nourished it.

Father of talismans and keeper of wonders.

Perfect in power that reveals the lights.

It is a fire that became our earth. Separate the earth from the fire and you shall adhere more to that which is subtle than that which is coarse, through care and wisdom.

It ascends from the earth to the heaven. It extracts the lights from the heights and descends to the earth containing the power of the above and the below for it is with the light of the lights. Therefore the darkness flees from it.

The greatest power overcomes everything that is subtle and it penetrates all that is coarse.

The formation of the microcosm is in accordance with the formation of the macrocosm.

The scholars made this their path.

This is why Thrice Hermes was exalted with wisdom.

This is his last book that he hid in the catacomb.
 Quoting: observation

[link to en.wikipedia.org]
 Quoting: aether


It states: What is the above is from the below and the below is from the above. The work of wonders is from one.
 Quoting: observation


tounge

that is and was never "as above so below"!
 Quoting: aether
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It states: What is the above is from the below and the below is from the above. The work of wonders is from one.
 Quoting: observation


sounds like synergy to me

Synergy is two or more things functioning together to produce a result not independently obtainable
 Quoting: observation


but when it was written back then i imagine it was the cause of cause being described
the 2 forces of singular effect
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I think its both...as above so below and as below so above...
Their pulse relates to our pulse as ours relates to theirs...maybe lightening has something to do with these two single pulses that pulsate together creating a powerful result wherever it is they meet? Sounds corny I know.
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It states: What is the above is from the below and the below is from the above. The work of wonders is from one.
 Quoting: observation


sounds like synergy to me

Synergy is two or more things functioning together to produce a result not independently obtainable
 Quoting: observation


but when it was written back then i imagine it was the cause of cause being described
the 2 forces of singular effect
 Quoting: aether


remember they were using old knowledge that no body remembered what it meant and to those of that day of writing there were only 2 things that existed to talk about
heaven and earth
so the above (heaven) was all that we could see, stars, sun, moon, planets etc and the below was here on earth
there existed only here and there

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It states: What is the above is from the below and the below is from the above. The work of wonders is from one.
 Quoting: observation


sounds like synergy to me

Synergy is two or more things functioning together to produce a result not independently obtainable
 Quoting: observation


but when it was written back then i imagine it was the cause of cause being described
the 2 forces of singular effect
 Quoting: aether


actuality no
they get it the wrong way around
they have the singular effect as the cause of the two cause which they believed to be effects

they were utilizing the imaginary one without common consent of the 2 thus to them
the imaginary 1 became the real cause of the 2

effect = cause

still happens tounge
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Aruna...you talked about alaska and hollow earth...we know haarp is located there..I recently watched a documentary on the salt there...how there seems to be a short supply of it but is still quite abundant in that location,,,for now anyways...the natives there have warned about its removal...

Wf
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Aruna...you talked about alaska and hollow earth...we know haarp is located there..I recently watched a documentary on the salt there...how there seems to be a short supply of it but is still quite abundant in that location,,,for now anyways...the natives there have warned about its removal...

Wf
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whoa

alaska came to aruna`s mind last night connected to

I'm talking of field and water...straight and circular... Maybe the salt water is just getting to me...lol

KA-AK
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It states: What is the above is from the below and the below is from the above. The work of wonders is from one.
 Quoting: observation


sounds like synergy to me

Synergy is two or more things functioning together to produce a result not independently obtainable
 Quoting: observation


but when it was written back then i imagine it was the cause of cause being described
the 2 forces of singular effect
 Quoting: aether


That's something like what I got out of it when you posted it above.

Last Edited by Swinging on Spirals on 05/21/2012 10:12 AM
"Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body,
but rather to skid in broadside, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming, "Wow! What a Ride!"

We do not Die, We Awaken to the Dream that We Lived.
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It states: What is the above is from the below and the below is from the above. The work of wonders is from one.
 Quoting: observation


sounds like synergy to me

Synergy is two or more things functioning together to produce a result not independently obtainable
 Quoting: observation


but when it was written back then i imagine it was the cause of cause being described
the 2 forces of singular effect
 Quoting: aether


actuality no
they get it the wrong way around
they have the singular effect as the cause of the two cause which they believed to be effects

they were utilizing the imaginary one without common consent of the 2 thus to them
the imaginary 1 became the real cause of the 2

effect = cause

still happens tounge
 Quoting: aether


Yes, that is more exact.
"Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body,
but rather to skid in broadside, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming, "Wow! What a Ride!"

We do not Die, We Awaken to the Dream that We Lived.
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Here is an indisputable fact. If you will trace the claimed history of ancient nations backwards, you will invariably reach a point at which humankind lived in the shadow of the gods. This distant epoch--what the Egyptians called the "time of the primeval gods"--cries out for clarification. Originally, the gods rule the world. First in an age of gold, but this age was followed by catastrophe and cosmic upheaval. That is the archetypal memory repeated around the world.

In their first appearance, the gods are celestial through and through. As the stories are told and re-told across the centuries, however, these celestial powers are progressively localized, re-entering the chronicles in increasingly human guise. All of the profound cosmic events expressed in the earliest myths are eventually brought down to earth. Through each culture’s intimate identification with its own gods across the centuries, the cosmic powers eventually emerged as legendary ancestors of the nation telling the story.
 Quoting: observation

 Quoting: aether


This always reminds me of the As Above, So Below stuff that Apollo and others always reference as a truth. As if what happens in the celestial heavens is mirrored within the human epics.

I have a very difficult time believing that. What makes more sense, is that celestial events become personified, in an attempt for humans to better cope/understand/relate to events that are witnessed, yet transcend us.
 Quoting: Swinging on Spirals


hey swinger
you should ask apollo which translation he uses and what he believes it means

A new translation bypassing the Latin has just been published by Nineveh Shadrach from the original Arabic of Book on the Secret of Creation (also named Book of the Causes) attributed to Apollonius of Tyana.

It contains an accurate commentary that can't be doubted.

It states: What is the above is from the below and the below is from the above. The work of wonders is from one.

And all things sprang from this essence through a single projection. How marvelous is its work! It is the principle part of the world and its custodian.

Its father is the sun and its mother is the moon. Thus the wind bore it within it and the earth nourished it.

Father of talismans and keeper of wonders.

Perfect in power that reveals the lights.

It is a fire that became our earth. Separate the earth from the fire and you shall adhere more to that which is subtle than that which is coarse, through care and wisdom.

It ascends from the earth to the heaven. It extracts the lights from the heights and descends to the earth containing the power of the above and the below for it is with the light of the lights. Therefore the darkness flees from it.

The greatest power overcomes everything that is subtle and it penetrates all that is coarse.

The formation of the microcosm is in accordance with the formation of the macrocosm.

The scholars made this their path.

This is why Thrice Hermes was exalted with wisdom.

This is his last book that he hid in the catacomb.
 Quoting: observation

[link to en.wikipedia.org]
 Quoting: aether


It states: What is the above is from the below and the below is from the above. The work of wonders is from one.
 Quoting: observation


tounge

that is and was never "as above so below"!
 Quoting: aether

 Quoting: aether


I'll send him a PM on this
"Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body,
but rather to skid in broadside, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming, "Wow! What a Ride!"

We do not Die, We Awaken to the Dream that We Lived.
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Cause and effect...effect and cause...

Back tpo back as one helps create the other...

It is said first there was thought(cause) then the spoken words (effect).then that caused another effect and so on...and so on....

But who knows if the first cause (thought) was not the effect? Lol
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If you make something from nopthing...which one would you name cause and which one would you name effect?
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If you make something from nopthing...which one would you name cause and which one would you name effect?
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You can't make something from nothing. Nothing doesn't exist, and never has.

From a philosophical standpoint, if there truly is Nothing, than it would also be Everything. It would be Everything without relationship to Anything, not even Itself.

Last Edited by Swinging on Spirals on 05/21/2012 10:29 AM
"Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body,
but rather to skid in broadside, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming, "Wow! What a Ride!"

We do not Die, We Awaken to the Dream that We Lived.
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Its not so simple as it sounds...maybe nothing came from something...?
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Its not so simple as it sounds...maybe nothing came from something...?
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i detect a hard liner

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Its not so simple as it sounds...maybe nothing came from something...?
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Yes it is as simple as it sounds. Nothing does not exist. Since we exist, nothing cannot, nor has it ever, existed.

Last Edited by Swinging on Spirals on 05/21/2012 10:34 AM
"Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body,
but rather to skid in broadside, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming, "Wow! What a Ride!"

We do not Die, We Awaken to the Dream that We Lived.
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Well SS...all matter returns to something.(Its original place)..maybe there is no nothing...maybe nothing is the effect of something...created by those very same ones you said...
The nothing to me seems to be the fucked up part...to me anyways...
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Well shit...I think we may be saying the same thing just a much different way? I agree...there does not exist nothing
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Well shit...I think we may be saying the same thing just a much different way? I agree...there does not exist nothing
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This is my logic. If there is NOTHING, then it will always be nothing, because there isn't anything to spark something into existence. There is no relationship with anything. There is no movement, no separation of parts, no light, no darkness. There is nothing to create, nothing to destroy. There isn't an outside influence that comes along to cause a reaction to make something.
"Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body,
but rather to skid in broadside, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming, "Wow! What a Ride!"

We do not Die, We Awaken to the Dream that We Lived.
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Aruna...you talked about alaska and hollow earth...we know haarp is located there..I recently watched a documentary on the salt there...how there seems to be a short supply of it but is still quite abundant in that location,,,for now anyways...the natives there have warned about its removal...

Wf
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1084634


whoa

alaska came to aruna`s mind last night connected to

I'm talking of field and water...straight and circular... Maybe the salt water is just getting to me...lol

KA-AK
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 Quoting: aether


remembering it is aruna getting the connectivity to this topic , not me

so i`m just fishing cool2

Gakona, Alaska

Ahtna Athabascans have lived in the Copper River basin for 5,000 to 7,000 years.
 Quoting: observation

[link to en.wikipedia.org]

that is a long time for people to remain themselves by name
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Aruna is thinking a lot about Alaska, because that's where I was born. She is always thinking about me.

nacholibre
"Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body,
but rather to skid in broadside, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming, "Wow! What a Ride!"

We do not Die, We Awaken to the Dream that We Lived.
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Aruna...you talked about alaska and hollow earth...we know haarp is located there..I recently watched a documentary on the salt there...how there seems to be a short supply of it but is still quite abundant in that location,,,for now anyways...the natives there have warned about its removal...

Wf
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1084634


whoa

alaska came to aruna`s mind last night connected to

I'm talking of field and water...straight and circular... Maybe the salt water is just getting to me...lol

KA-AK
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1095970

 Quoting: aether


remembering it is aruna getting the connectivity to this topic , not me

so i`m just fishing cool2

Gakona, Alaska

Ahtna Athabascans have lived in the Copper River basin for 5,000 to 7,000 years.
 Quoting: observation

[link to en.wikipedia.org]

that is a long time for people to remain themselves by name
 Quoting: aether


Ahtna language

Ahtna or Ahtena is the Na-Dené language of the Ahtna ethnic group of the Copper River area of Alaska. The language is also known as Copper River or Mednovskiy. There are 80 speakers out of a population of 500, and the language is facing extinction but many younger people are learning it to try to keep it from extinction.

The Ahtna language consists of four different dialects, three of the four are still spoken today. Ahtna closely related to Dena'ina.
 Quoting: observation

[link to en.wikipedia.org]

do we really possess people whom speak a language that appears to predate hebrew language by 3000 years?
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[MOUND-BUILDERS] Pre-Clovis in Alaska

Archaeological digs at the Broken Mammoth site, along the Tanana River in Alaska, have uncovered Pre-Clovis artifacts including large blades and cobble tools, mammoth ivory foreshafts, teardrop shaped stone points 13,000-14,000 years old...........
 Quoting: observation

[link to archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com]
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The poems assembled here are among the rarest examples of a culture's literature in existence. They come from one of the world's most endangered languages, one which had no written form even a generation ago, a language—so our mythology says—was given to us by Raven.

Ahtna is one of twenty linguistically distinct indigenous languages in Alaska (now, nineteen since the last native speaker of Eyak recently passed away). Ahtna is a member of the broader Dine' language family, which includes Navajo. The Native languages of Alaska fall into several encompassing groups: Yupik and Inupiaq (popularly labeled “Eskimo”), the southeast languages (Tlingit, Haida, Tsimshian, Eyak), Alutiiq (Aleut and Sugpiat languages), and thirteen interior Athabaskan languages—Ahtna being among them. Ahtna has four regional dialects (see map below). My grandmother's older sister, Morrie Secondchief, who lived in Mendeltna (literally, “Between Two Lakes;” men sometimes ben is our word for lake; notice the root word in Mentasta below), was the last speaker of our Western dialect.
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It's Swing's portal...lol

What's funny this morning I realize it's not Alaska...though Alaska IS connected somehow but the hollow earth thing which prompted the connection to AK actually came thru Antarctica...though why I said Alaska is because I often confuse Anchorage for Antarctica...in my perception (for me thats common those two being connected somehow).

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And the mountain dreams (mine) seem to always be "anchored" so to speak in Alaska...why my fascination with that state...also "Twin Peaks"...hahahaha

*hides the log*
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It's Swing's portal...lol

What's funny this morning I realize it's not Alaska...though Alaska IS connected somehow but the hollow earth thing which prompted the connection to AK actually came thru Antarctica...though why I said Alaska is because I often confuse Anchorage for Antarctica...in my perception (for me thats common those two being connected somehow).

scratching
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Dammit, I guess my theory was for naught.
"Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body,
but rather to skid in broadside, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming, "Wow! What a Ride!"

We do not Die, We Awaken to the Dream that We Lived.
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Aruna is thinking a lot about Alaska, because that's where I was born. She is always thinking about me.

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You were BORN there?!

hmm
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Aruna is thinking a lot about Alaska, because that's where I was born. She is always thinking about me.

 Quoting: Swinging on Spirals


You were BORN there?!

hmm
 Quoting: ArunaLuna


Yeppers. And my identical twin brother was born there too!

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"Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body,
but rather to skid in broadside, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming, "Wow! What a Ride!"

We do not Die, We Awaken to the Dream that We Lived.
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Jeeze my comprehension is off this morning.

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