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Aristotle disagreed with Plato on this point, arguing that all universals are instantiated. Aristotle argued that there are no universals that are unattached to existing things. According to Aristotle, if a universal exists, either as a particular or a relation, then there must have been, must be currently, or must be in the future, something on which the universal can be predicated. Consequently, according to Aristotle, if it is not the case that some universal can be predicated to an object that exists at some period of time, then it does not exist.
In addition, Aristotle disagreed with Plato about the location of universals. As Plato spoke of the world of the forms, a location where all universal forms subsist, Aristotle maintained that universals exist within each thing on which each universal is predicated. So, according to Aristotle, the form of apple exists within each apple, rather than in the world of the forms.
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instantiated

Represent by an instance; provide an actual example.

of course, fucking twats with their something somewhere which can never be seen or known

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"the entelechy of a natural body having life potentially within it."
description of soul
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Entelechy or entelechia
Entelechy, in Greek entelécheia, was coined by Aristotle and transliterated in Latin as entelechia. According to Sachs (1995, p. 245):
Aristotle invents the word by combining entel (complete, full-grown) with echein (= hexis, to be a certain way by the continuing effort of holding on in that condition), while at the same time punning on endelecheia (persistence) by inserting telos (completion). This is a three-ring circus of a word, at the heart of everything in Aristotle's thinking, including the definition of motion.
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no one get`s what he is seeing and he had to invent words because the information to explain what his awareness sees did not exist to utilize

plus:

Though Aristotle wrote many elegant treatises and dialogues (Cicero described his literary style as "a river of gold"), it is thought that the majority of his writings are now lost and only about one-third of the original works have survived.
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oh well
in the twenty first century the information does exist to translate his awareness if we desire

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"the entelechy of a natural body having life potentially within it."
description of soul
aristotle

Entelechy or entelechia
Entelechy, in Greek entelécheia, was coined by Aristotle and transliterated in Latin as entelechia. According to Sachs (1995, p. 245):
Aristotle invents the word by combining entel (complete, full-grown) with echein (= hexis, to be a certain way by the continuing effort of holding on in that condition), while at the same time punning on endelecheia (persistence) by inserting telos (completion). This is a three-ring circus of a word, at the heart of everything in Aristotle's thinking, including the definition of motion.
 Quoting: history

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no one get`s what he is seeing and he had to invent words because the information to explain what his awareness sees did not exist to utilize

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Though Aristotle wrote many elegant treatises and dialogues (Cicero described his literary style as "a river of gold"), it is thought that the majority of his writings are now lost and only about one-third of the original works have survived.
[link to en.wikipedia.org]

oh well
in the twenty first century the information does exist to translate his awareness if we desire
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Absolutely wonderful. Had not the words for his thoughts, so he said, fuck it, and began creating his own.

Holding on to the condition of being complete...or, a persistence to always strive toward being full-grown, or complete.

And what was that, in Aristotle's eyes? That of being 'complete'? If this circular mode of thought pervaded his thinking, then what was the end goal that we are striving to perfect (complete)?
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Aristotle disagreed with Plato on this point, arguing that all universals are instantiated. Aristotle argued that there are no universals that are unattached to existing things. According to Aristotle, if a universal exists, either as a particular or a relation, then there must have been, must be currently, or must be in the future, something on which the universal can be predicated. Consequently, according to Aristotle, if it is not the case that some universal can be predicated to an object that exists at some period of time, then it does not exist.
In addition, Aristotle disagreed with Plato about the location of universals. As Plato spoke of the world of the forms, a location where all universal forms subsist, Aristotle maintained that universals exist within each thing on which each universal is predicated. So, according to Aristotle, the form of apple exists within each apple, rather than in the world of the forms.
 Quoting: aristotle

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The first holographic concept?
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yes these guys were getting the micro but never the macro,
the structure of a universe as recognized today hence an awareness of what they are detecting relates to escaped them

so they get effects right but no inkling of cause that fits in a manner to describe
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yes these guys were getting the micro but never the macro,
the structure of a universe as recognized today hence an awareness of what they are detecting relates to escaped them

so they get effects right but no inkling of cause that fits in a manner to describe
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Very well put. Understood.
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Aristotle argued vehemently against the pluralistic teachings of atomism. "The world must be unique," he wrote. "There cannot be several worlds." He justified this stance on a number of grounds. For example, in his Metaphysics, he explains the motion of the planets and stars (around the Earth) as due to the "Prime Mover" acting at the periphery. If there were other Earths, there would have to be a plurality of Prime Movers, an idea he rejected as philosophically and religiously unacceptable. In Aristotle's cosmology, the Earth was located at the center of a nested system of crystalline spheres to which were attached the Moon, Sun, planets, and stars. According to his doctrine of "natural motion and place", the four basic elements of earth, air, fire, and water tended to move to their rightful positions with respect to the Earth. Fire moved naturally outward, earth moved naturally inward to the center, while air and water assumed intermediate stations. This fundamental tenet underlay Aristotle's belief in a single kosmos, or world system, with the Earth at its focus. If there were more than one world, the elements of fire and earth would have no unique natural place to which to move – for him, a physical and logical contradiction. Aristotle maintained that there was a clear distinction between the terrestrial and celestial regions. The latter knew neither life nor death and the bodies within it were composed not of Earthly matter but of a fifth element, or quintessence. It was the innermost sphere, carrying the Moon, he believed, that marked the boundary between the impermanent "sublunary" realm of the Earth and the unchanging "superlunary" domain of the heaven
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Aristotle argued vehemently against the pluralistic teachings of atomism. "The world must be unique," he wrote. "There cannot be several worlds." He justified this stance on a number of grounds. For example, in his Metaphysics, he explains the motion of the planets and stars (around the Earth) as due to the "Prime Mover" acting at the periphery. If there were other Earths, there would have to be a plurality of Prime Movers, an idea he rejected as philosophically and religiously unacceptable. In Aristotle's cosmology, the Earth was located at the center of a nested system of crystalline spheres to which were attached the Moon, Sun, planets, and stars. According to his doctrine of "natural motion and place", the four basic elements of earth, air, fire, and water tended to move to their rightful positions with respect to the Earth. Fire moved naturally outward, earth moved naturally inward to the center, while air and water assumed intermediate stations. This fundamental tenet underlay Aristotle's belief in a single kosmos, or world system, with the Earth at its focus. If there were more than one world, the elements of fire and earth would have no unique natural place to which to move – for him, a physical and logical contradiction. Aristotle maintained that there was a clear distinction between the terrestrial and celestial regions. The latter knew neither life nor death and the bodies within it were composed not of Earthly matter but of a fifth element, or quintessence. It was the innermost sphere, carrying the Moon, he believed, that marked the boundary between the impermanent "sublunary" realm of the Earth and the unchanging "superlunary" domain of the heaven
 Quoting: Aristotle

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 Quoting: aether


Another example of what I asked about, huh? Trying to define something that they KNEW, but couldn't define because of lack in knowing the macro
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yes these guys were getting the micro but never the macro,
the structure of a universe as recognized today hence an awareness of what they are detecting relates to escaped them

so they get effects right but no inkling of cause that fits in a manner to describe
 Quoting: aether


Very well put. Understood.
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that was a remote
amazed when i googled what he said after the remote
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yes these guys were getting the micro but never the macro,
the structure of a universe as recognized today hence an awareness of what they are detecting relates to escaped them

so they get effects right but no inkling of cause that fits in a manner to describe
 Quoting: aether


Very well put. Understood.
 Quoting: SickScent


that was a remote
amazed when i googled what he said after the remote
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rockon

How often you doing that?
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yes these guys were getting the micro but never the macro,
the structure of a universe as recognized today hence an awareness of what they are detecting relates to escaped them

so they get effects right but no inkling of cause that fits in a manner to describe
 Quoting: aether


Very well put. Understood.
 Quoting: SickScent


that was a remote
amazed when i googled what he said after the remote
 Quoting: aether


yes the ability to focus outside of what you are aware of does not exist
an outside prompt from the unknown is required to set focus upon
they never got one
so they got right what they were aware of but because nothing got prompt from their unknown, the awareness was never complete

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yes these guys were getting the micro but never the macro,
the structure of a universe as recognized today hence an awareness of what they are detecting relates to escaped them

so they get effects right but no inkling of cause that fits in a manner to describe
 Quoting: aether


Very well put. Understood.
 Quoting: SickScent


that was a remote
amazed when i googled what he said after the remote
 Quoting: aether


rockon

How often you doing that?
 Quoting: SickScent


whenever i have motive
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yes these guys were getting the micro but never the macro,
the structure of a universe as recognized today hence an awareness of what they are detecting relates to escaped them

so they get effects right but no inkling of cause that fits in a manner to describe
 Quoting: aether


Very well put. Understood.
 Quoting: SickScent


that was a remote
amazed when i googled what he said after the remote
 Quoting: aether


yes the ability to focus outside of what you are aware of does not exist
an outside prompt from the unknown is required to set focus upon
they never got one
so they got right what they were aware of but because nothing got prompt from their unknown, the awareness was never complete
 Quoting: aether


Makes perfect sense, now that I can easily understand these things.
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Very well put. Understood.
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that was a remote
amazed when i googled what he said after the remote
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yes the ability to focus outside of what you are aware of does not exist
an outside prompt from the unknown is required to set focus upon
they never got one
so they got right what they were aware of but because nothing got prompt from their unknown, the awareness was never complete
 Quoting: aether


Makes perfect sense, now that I can easily understand these things.
 Quoting: SickScent


that was a remote to rockon
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that was a remote
amazed when i googled what he said after the remote
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yes the ability to focus outside of what you are aware of does not exist
an outside prompt from the unknown is required to set focus upon
they never got one
so they got right what they were aware of but because nothing got prompt from their unknown, the awareness was never complete
 Quoting: aether


Makes perfect sense, now that I can easily understand these things.
 Quoting: SickScent


that was a remote to rockon
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lol
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that was a remote
amazed when i googled what he said after the remote
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yes the ability to focus outside of what you are aware of does not exist
an outside prompt from the unknown is required to set focus upon
they never got one
so they got right what they were aware of but because nothing got prompt from their unknown, the awareness was never complete
 Quoting: aether


Makes perfect sense, now that I can easily understand these things.
 Quoting: SickScent


that was a remote to rockon
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as in being there it is not difficult to see what they can not because i went there knowing what i know so i can see their limitations, if that is the right word
feels a bit harsh because really they were way ahead and very gifted people
just with today`s awareness on some topics it is not hard to see their assumptions
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yes the ability to focus outside of what you are aware of does not exist
an outside prompt from the unknown is required to set focus upon
they never got one
so they got right what they were aware of but because nothing got prompt from their unknown, the awareness was never complete
 Quoting: aether


Makes perfect sense, now that I can easily understand these things.
 Quoting: SickScent


that was a remote to rockon
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as in being there it is not difficult to see what they can not because i went there knowing what i know so i can see their limitations, if that is the right word
feels a bit harsh because really they were way ahead and very gifted people
just with today`s awareness on some topics it is not hard to see their assumptions
 Quoting: aether


and i am in more than one field when i am there so i always maintain feedback (awareness) from multiple locations
here, there (where i go) and where ever else i am in contact with before i remoted
no contact is lost with anything
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yes the ability to focus outside of what you are aware of does not exist
an outside prompt from the unknown is required to set focus upon
they never got one
so they got right what they were aware of but because nothing got prompt from their unknown, the awareness was never complete
 Quoting: aether


Makes perfect sense, now that I can easily understand these things.
 Quoting: SickScent


that was a remote to rockon
 Quoting: aether


as in being there it is not difficult to see what they can not because i went there knowing what i know so i can see their limitations, if that is the right word
feels a bit harsh because really they were way ahead and very gifted people
just with today`s awareness on some topics it is not hard to see their assumptions
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Assumptions via their imagination...basically, trying to fill in the gaps to the incoming information.

Hindsight is 20/20.
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Makes perfect sense, now that I can easily understand these things.
 Quoting: SickScent


that was a remote to rockon
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as in being there it is not difficult to see what they can not because i went there knowing what i know so i can see their limitations, if that is the right word
feels a bit harsh because really they were way ahead and very gifted people
just with today`s awareness on some topics it is not hard to see their assumptions
 Quoting: aether


and i am in more than one field when i am there so i always maintain feedback (awareness) from multiple locations
here, there (where i go) and where ever else i am in contact with before i remoted
no contact is lost with anything
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Incredible. I understand, because I do that lucidly. Now, it seems like I let some of it run like an automaton, and I am becoming less aware of the previous layers as I go deeper. Example, when I get deep enough, the memories of this waking life begin to disintegrate from awareness (though obviously they still exist).
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Ancient Egyptian concept of the soul

The Ancient Egyptians believed that a human soul was made up of five parts: the Ren, the Ba, the Ka, the Sheut, and the Ib

An important part of the Egyptian soul was thought to be the Ib (jb), or heart. The Ib or metaphysical heart was believed to be formed from one drop of blood from the child's mothers heart, taken at conception.
To Ancient Egyptians, it was the heart and not the brain that was the seat of emotion, thought, will and intention. This is evidenced by the many expressions in the Egyptian language which incorporate the word ib, Awt-ib: happiness (literally, wideness of heart), Xak-ib: estranged (literally, truncated of heart). This word was transcribed by Wallis Budge as Ab.
In Egyptian religion, the heart was the key to the afterlife. It was conceived as surviving death in the nether world, where it gave evidence for, or against, its possessor.
 Quoting: history

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wow this topic has already gone weird
i knew it
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Sheut (shadow)

A person's shadow, Sheut (šwt in Egyptian), was always present. It was believed that a person could not exist without a shadow, nor a shadow without a person, therefore, Egyptians surmised that a shadow contained something of the person it represents. For this reason statues of people and deities were sometimes referred to as their shadows.
 Quoting: history


that translation of sheut doesn`t feel right
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O mighty One, when he is adored, great one among bas, greatly respected ba inspiring the gods with awe when he has appeared on his great throne: then may he prepare the path for NN, justified, his ba, his akh and his shadow (Sw.t), may they be well provided for

Unlike the body, the shadow was not bound to the grave and could go where the body could not.

In New Kingdom tombs it was at times depicted leaving it accompanied by the ba-bird.

Let not be shut in my soul, let not be fettered my "shadow", let be opened the way for my soul and for my "shadow", may it see the great god,
E.A.W.Budge The Book of the Dead Chapter 92

i`m getting aura
as in
the "light body" you utilize to "remote" etc, when conscious

the structure you transfer to when you consciously die (deform) until you reform (born)

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O mighty One, when he is adored, great one among bas, greatly respected ba inspiring the gods with awe when he has appeared on his great throne: then may he prepare the path for NN, justified, his ba, his akh and his shadow (Sw.t), may they be well provided for

Unlike the body, the shadow was not bound to the grave and could go where the body could not.

In New Kingdom tombs it was at times depicted leaving it accompanied by the ba-bird.

Let not be shut in my soul, let not be fettered my "shadow", let be opened the way for my soul and for my "shadow", may it see the great god,
E.A.W.Budge The Book of the Dead Chapter 92

i`m getting aura
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whoa...nice aether. I wonder...if the pictograms/hieroglyphics, etc are colored and not just shades of grey, than that would make damn good sense.
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The 'Ba' is in some regards the closest to the contemporary Western religious notion of a soul, but it also was everything that makes an individual unique, similar to the notion of 'personality'. (In this sense, inanimate objects could also have a 'Ba', a unique character, and indeed Old Kingdom pyramids often were called the 'Ba' of their owner). Like a soul, the 'Ba' is an aspect of a person that the Egyptians believed would live after the body died, and it is sometimes depicted as a human-headed bird flying out of the tomb to join with the 'Ka' in the afterlife.

personality
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Ba: Vehicle
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The Ka was the Egyptian concept of vital essence, that which distinguishes the difference between a living and a dead person, with death occurring when the ka left the body.

chi

Chi can be freely translated as 'vital energy' or 'life force'.
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Ka: God Force Expression
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Ba: Vehicle
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not that simple
one thing for sure
this is a diagram
that together = something
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Ba: Vehicle
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not that simple
one thing for sure
this is a diagram
that together = something
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5 layers. What are you up to, 3? Actually 4 layers, and all 4 layers combined make the fifth.

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