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I'm still stuck back at passing thru the sun and your push experience...scratching
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what is my "push experience"
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1dunno1

I just keep getting that imagery back is all...and this is why I curse my memory problems. All I have to go by for recall is my impressions from that conversation.

Around the time we were talking about egregores and your meeting satan?...when you said this yesterday...

lucky i can do asshole as easily
or i would never get to heaven


That's the impression I received, the replay of the visual I had from our conversation. So today when you brought up passing thru the sun...same visual for me.

Which is why I was like scratching
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Einstein described a Newtonian gravity well as a curvature of the field. If you assume that there is no aether particle field, then you are left to say that the curvature of the field is the curvature of empty space.

Spacetime is based on the concept that light travels at a limited speed, and therefore the information you receive from the universe must take into account where and when the signal was sent. In other words, the limited speed of light will produce illusions that must be accounted for when "decoding" your observations. Special relativity and then GR take this a step further and say that the "illusions" are physically determinant - for example: he claims that travelling fast makes clocks go slower, but whilst you are travelling really fast you do not see your clock as going slower. Then when you get home less time will have past for you than for you twin brother who stayed at home. He is claiming that not only did the clock go slower, but that time went slower, hence you aged less than your non-travelling brother. This concept can also be expressed by sentence: "sit down and smoke another one".
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Yes, but I believe you will have aged less not because time ran slower, but because atoms decay slower in high gravity fields or at high velocities. If the trip is 10 years both brothers will say ten years passed, yet one is younger. not because less time passed for him, but because his atoms decayed slower. Well one will argue time went slower, but what is time but the decay of atoms. So the only possible solution is a standard clock free of all gravitational and velocity affects (an impossibility.) I still say both clocks agree, if you convert either one to the other frame, which you MUST do if you want to compare them, else comparison is useless, then both clocks agree that either 10 years has passed or less, depending on which frame is converted to which frame. If your clock says a second is so long and it says the other is shorter, then both cannot be seconds from your frame. But if convert his frame to your frame, then both become seconds of the same duration again, and vice versa.

It's all a mind game to prevent you from looking at the base presumptions and equations and discovering their flaws
 Quoting: science


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I'm still stuck back at passing thru the sun and your push experience...scratching
 Quoting: ArunaLuna


what is my "push experience"
 Quoting: aether


1dunno1

I just keep getting that imagery back is all...and this is why I curse my memory problems. All I have to go by for recall is my impressions from that conversation.

Around the time we were talking about egregores and your meeting satan?...when you said this yesterday...

lucky i can do asshole as easily
or i would never get to heaven


That's the impression I received, the replay of the visual I had from our conversation. So today when you brought up passing thru the sun...same visual for me.

Which is why I was like scratching
 Quoting: ArunaLuna


i am aware of no "push experience" ever other than when i was 19 years when i needed to push through what felt like an invisible barrier to continue walking up a driveway to reach my destination
upon arrival, the property, (late night desire to see) was as it had been 150+ years back before that day
it was amazing to realize and experience
unfortunately i was accompanied by a women whom was not enjoying the experience hence i left for her comfort before i could discover more

rings no bells
sorry

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Your remote experience...in being pushed off a cliff by some entity and finding yourself soaring and facing off with it or something and you had gone through the sun? You really don't remember telling me that?

blink
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Your remote experience...in being pushed off a cliff by some entity and finding yourself soaring and facing off with it or something and you had gone through the sun? You really don't remember telling me that?

blink
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oh yes
i was pushed

funny because the human part of that experience are the same ones whom i experienced my choosing to pass through the "lava tube" thus living death by fire (passing through the sun)
so i get why you are receiving the contacts
they are the "finest" occult practitioners humanity possess at this moment, i believe, they are certain of course 1rof1

part of my contact involved me experiencing dreams

i allowed the dreams to form because of my desire to further the contact and it was no different for me than awake time although i was intrigued upon their ability to invoke dreams in the first place
each morning when i awoke, what i dreamed was awaiting my reading, they had sent me my dreams written out

impressive

the dreams were vaguely competitive but never so to prompt me angry or to terminate the dream
about 4 dreams in i am on this wonderful cliff edge miles up looking at the most gorgeous skyline with one of their human party next to me and i am feeling great
woooosh
something pushed me straight off the cliff edge instantly
that did piss me off for a moment
so i stayed where i had been pushed to, in mid air, miles high and thought about it
i liked the human party i had been with on the cliff and no harm could ever come to me so
what the hell
i flew off gracefully with never a look back
when i awoke it was written as a great joke with much laughter that satan had pushed jesus off the cliff
for some reason to this day they nickname me jesus
there was never a dream after that and at the time i assumed it was their way of discovering were i real

oh,the lava tube was conscious and real,no dream

funny huh

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YES!! That's the one.
Now I can get past that.

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I'm still stuck back at passing thru the sun and your push experience...scratching
 Quoting: ArunaLuna


what is my "push experience"
 Quoting: aether


1dunno1

I just keep getting that imagery back is all...and this is why I curse my memory problems. All I have to go by for recall is my impressions from that conversation.

Around the time we were talking about egregores and your meeting satan?...when you said this yesterday...

lucky i can do asshole as easily
or i would never get to heaven


That's the impression I received, the replay of the visual I had from our conversation. So today when you brought up passing thru the sun...same visual for me.

Which is why I was like scratching
 Quoting: ArunaLuna


now that fits

YES!! That's the one.
Now I can get past that.

goodevil
 Quoting: ArunaLuna


i see that
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self aware universe = the topic itself "risk assess" applicants of it`s benifits
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Einstein described a Newtonian gravity well as a curvature of the field. If you assume that there is no aether particle field, then you are left to say that the curvature of the field is the curvature of empty space.

Spacetime is based on the concept that light travels at a limited speed, and therefore the information you receive from the universe must take into account where and when the signal was sent. In other words, the limited speed of light will produce illusions that must be accounted for when "decoding" your observations. Special relativity and then GR take this a step further and say that the "illusions" are physically determinant - for example: he claims that travelling fast makes clocks go slower, but whilst you are travelling really fast you do not see your clock as going slower. Then when you get home less time will have past for you than for you twin brother who stayed at home. He is claiming that not only did the clock go slower, but that time went slower, hence you aged less than your non-travelling brother. This concept can also be expressed by sentence: "sit down and smoke another one".
 Quoting: aether


Yes, but I believe you will have aged less not because time ran slower, but because atoms decay slower in high gravity fields or at high velocities. If the trip is 10 years both brothers will say ten years passed, yet one is younger. not because less time passed for him, but because his atoms decayed slower. Well one will argue time went slower, but what is time but the decay of atoms. So the only possible solution is a standard clock free of all gravitational and velocity affects (an impossibility.) I still say both clocks agree, if you convert either one to the other frame, which you MUST do if you want to compare them, else comparison is useless, then both clocks agree that either 10 years has passed or less, depending on which frame is converted to which frame. If your clock says a second is so long and it says the other is shorter, then both cannot be seconds from your frame. But if convert his frame to your frame, then both become seconds of the same duration again, and vice versa.

It's all a mind game to prevent you from looking at the base presumptions and equations and discovering their flaws
 Quoting: science

 Quoting: aether


. It is possible to do so but every modification weakens it and for the speed of gravity its entirely unnecessary considering that near instant communication is sufficient to explain observations. Introducing c as a limit was/is purely to keep SR & GR in vogue. Engineers are happy to continue to use Newtons laws. Relativity adjustments were/are entirely unnecessary and that's where the real test of a theory is. Unfortunately scientists feel they need to fit SR & GR into whatever it is they are working on so they are not ridiculed or blackballed, and more naive scientists try to build upon this house of cards when their theories would probably benefit from ignoring these pseudo constraints.
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I agree, scientists would be much better off starting from scratch. Not much gravity research is being done in this day and age due to the simple fact that whenever someone tries to research it the answers do not agree with theory, so it has been basically dropped. If nearly instantaneous speed for the gravitational force was so wrong, as you say, we would not still have Newton's laws on the books. Of course they will tell you that it is only approximate and for more precise calculations GR must be used. The funny thing is though GR reduces to Newtonian physics. This is because GR leaves out aberration which in affect gives a theory of light traveling at c an actual infinite speed for it. It is quite a neat slight of hand, divert you with fancy words so you do not look closely at the math. The math has zero aberration, which means gravity travels at near infinite speed, plain and simple. Light has aberration, and it is plainly in the math for SR and GR concerning light, but not for gravity. This is how GR reduces to Newtonian theory, by neglecting aberration. If something has no aberration it's speed must be infinite.
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because all human constructed archetypes are formed from their impression (imagined) of actual natural archetypes (cause) we have the human formed gravity archetype (cause) being applied to an observed/experienced natural effects of near instant communication and instant effect over distance

thus gravity had to fit the human formed archetype of god to be accepted

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I'm still stuck back at passing thru the sun and your push experience...scratching
 Quoting: ArunaLuna


what is my "push experience"
 Quoting: aether


1dunno1

I just keep getting that imagery back is all...and this is why I curse my memory problems. All I have to go by for recall is my impressions from that conversation.

Around the time we were talking about egregores and your meeting satan?...when you said this yesterday...

lucky i can do asshole as easily
or i would never get to heaven


That's the impression I received, the replay of the visual I had from our conversation. So today when you brought up passing thru the sun...same visual for me.

Which is why I was like scratching
 Quoting: ArunaLuna


i am aware of no "push experience" ever other than when i was 19 years when i needed to push through what felt like an invisible barrier to continue walking up a driveway to reach my destination
upon arrival, the property, (late night desire to see) was as it had been 150+ years back before that day
it was amazing to realize and experience
unfortunately i was accompanied by a women whom was not enjoying the experience hence i left for her comfort before i could discover more


rings no bells
sorry

the property

[link to www.arthurfindlaycollege.org]
 Quoting: aether


feedback

A Lawyer Presents the Case for the Afterlife
Irrefutable Objective Evidence

[link to www.victorzammit.com]

Arthur Findlay

Another brilliant and highly respected investigator was Arthur Findlay, a practical businessman and successful stockbroker, who approached the task of psychic investigation with a cool and rational mind. For five years he undertook a special investigation with John Sloan, one of the most gifted direct voice mediums of all time.

As he put it:

I have created conditions so as to make fraud and impersonation impossible, and, by persistent enquiry have obtained information about the Etheric (Spirit) World, its inhabitants and how communication takes place which should satisfy the average individual ... I have dealt with hard facts all my life. I have required a knowledge of economics and mathematics in my business life, and, outside of this, my special interest has been in physics. I have therefore approached this subject in a matter-of-fact way, and have obtained information which makes the phenomena, to my unbiased person, both reasonable and natural.
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self aware universe = the topic itself "risk assess" applicants of it`s benifits
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And my thoughts about the college...that's where this song came into play. The feel=The dreams that I would love to live.
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self aware universe = the topic itself "risk assess" applicants of it`s benifits
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And my thoughts about the college...that's where this song came into play. The feel=The dreams that I would love to live.
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i get that
the location will get you

i lived close to it for a while and would often go alone on it`s weekly open days
never talked to anyone but communicated how i desired and liked it as i wandered around the building

decades later in a city far away across the crowded room of a bar i saw a young women and two elder men by the entrance and knew they were looking for me
upon that moment her and my eyes met and she alone walked to my table and said
"you have been appearing to us at the college and we wish you to have this gift"
she turned, walked away and all three left never to be seen by me again
this was the gift:

INITIATION
By Elisabeth Haich

[link to www.tropic-of-freedom-books.com]

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aruna when you have a minute look at this
feels like you
sort off rockon

...


Diamagnetic Gravity Vortexes





THE EARTH GRID, HUMAN LEVITATION AND GRAVITY ANOMALIES

Knowledge of the Earth Grid or "crystalline Earth" is very ancient and has been utilized by a number of civilizations. The pyramids and ley lines are on the power transfer lines of the natural Earth gravity Grid all over the world. The Earth Grid is comprised of the geometrical flow lines of gravity energy in the structure of the Earth its
[link to www.bibliotecapleyades.net]
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in the meantime what do i know
i know the weight changes occur gravity fluctuations but that is not what is being shown exactly

wow i see it
it`s the incoming energy (charge) that powers up/down the poles

one of those two, up or down, forms the spin reversal in the neutral zone

feels like the power down

maybe both dependent of degree of up or down

yes

wow rockon
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so the structures over our globe

"A great scientific instrument lies sprawled over the entire surface of the globe. At some period - perhaps it was over 4,000 years ago - almost every corner of the world was visited by a group of men who came with a particular task to accomplish. With the help of some remarkable power, by which they could cut and raise enormous blocks of stone (Despatch comment here: THE FORCE?), these men erected vast astronomical instruments, circles of erect pillars, PYRAMIDS, underground tunnels, cyclopean alignments, whose course from horizon to horizon was marked by stones, mounds, and earthwork."

was constructed to reduce the spin reversals throughout those time of high energetic (charge) activity following and during planetary alteration

yes

would drive you nuts if you got spin reversals all the time

rockon
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"On July 1, 2011 at 7:53 am GMT the NEW (moon) solar eclipse will be born, evolve and grow for 1226.05 years."

i never knew that
thanks cheer

Statistics for Solar Eclipses of Saros 156

Solar eclipses of Saros 156 all occur at the Moon’s descending node and the Moon moves northward with each eclipse. The series will begin with a partial eclipse in the southern hemisphere on 2011 Jul 01. The series will end with a partial eclipse in the northern hemisphere on 3237 Jul 14. The total duration of Saros series 156 is 1226.05 years. In summary:

First Eclipse = 2011 Jul 01 08:39:30

Last Eclipse = 3237 Jul 14 10:57:04

Duration of Saros 156 = 1226.05 Years

[link to eclipse.gsfc.nasa.gov]
 Quoting: aether


so what do we know
we know this:

...


good info aether, thx. i copied this to my japanEq thread:) and about piers.. well, he's been wrong before, a lot..
 Quoting: OpenEnded


thumbs

and what is interesting is this


...


That is "whack", and ACE is a mess!
[link to www.solarham.com]
 Quoting: tomasgod1


the pattern (energy/information) this alignment is forcing our sun to transmit remembering this alignment is


"On July 1, 2011 at 7:53 am GMT the NEW (moon) solar eclipse will be born, evolve and grow for 1226.05 years."

i never knew that
thanks cheer

Statistics for Solar Eclipses of Saros 156

Solar eclipses of Saros 156 all occur at the Moon’s descending node and the Moon moves northward with each eclipse. The series will begin with a partial eclipse in the southern hemisphere on 2011 Jul 01. The series will end with a partial eclipse in the northern hemisphere on 3237 Jul 14. The total duration of Saros series 156 is 1226.05 years. In summary:

First Eclipse = 2011 Jul 01 08:39:30

Last Eclipse = 3237 Jul 14 10:57:04

Duration of Saros 156 = 1226.05 Years

[link to eclipse.gsfc.nasa.gov]
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and our sun has

in our month of 3 eclipses our sun signals 3

telsa, marko rodin and others discovered that 3,6,and 9 in nature are the pathways that our non material dimension utilizes to form and sustain our material dimension

energy = information

i imagine we witnessing the commencement of affects which many of us will experience emotionally

one way or another
 Quoting: aether


personally i like the feel of the energetic signal/information and the impression it impresses upon me
 Quoting: aether


caused this:

The hair-raising truth about the Cornish tsunami triggered by under-sea earthquake

Read more: The hair-raising truth about the Cornish tsunami triggered by under-sea earthquake

Read more: The hair raising truth Cornish- tsunami triggered sea-earthquake

This week, parts of the Cornish coastline were hit by what appears to have been a mini-tsunami. The wave was of no great height, but it was still substantial enough to suck the sea out for 150 feet or more, before surging back in to drench the causeway linking St Michael’s Mount to the mainland near Penzance, and giving tourists a soaking.
The wave rolled up the estuaries and rivers from Mounts Bay in the West to Plymouth in the east, sending small boats rolling on their keels.
If that isn’t strange enough, witnesses said it was preceded by a surge of static electricity. ‘People’s hair stood on end,’ said a National Trust guide on the Mount.
 Quoting: science

[link to www.dailymail.co.uk]

we know st micheal`s mount is:

St. Michael's Mount is a rocky island 5 miles south of Penzance in Cornwall, England. Surmounted by an fortress-like abbey dedicated to St. Michael the Archangel, this atmospheric sacred site has much in common with its namesake across the channel, Mont-St-Michel in France.
St. Michael's Mount is also a prominent site on the major ley line known as St. Michael's Line. Ley lines are hypothetical straight lines between ancient sites that are believed to carry special energy and power. St. Michael's Line runs northeast across Britain from St. Michael's Mount, through sites such as Glastonbury Tor (with its St. Michael's Tower), Avebury, and Bury St. Edmunds.
 Quoting: history

[link to www.sacred-destinations.com]

The St. Michael's Ley, England:
This is probably the most famous ley-line in the world. It runs across England from the tip of Cornwall to the Eastern tip of Norfolk on the Norfolk/Suffolk border, passing Glastonbury Tor (St. Michaels church), and Avebury before continuing onwards to the east coast of England. It passes through numerous significant sites either named after St. Michael or St. George, both dragon slaying saints. The line follows the path of the sun on the 8th of May (The spring festival of St. Michel).
 Quoting: history


which is the "touch stone" of this:


"A great scientific instrument lies sprawled over the entire surface of the globe. At some period - perhaps it was over 4,000 years ago - almost every corner of the world was visited by a group of men who came with a particular task to accomplish. With the help of some remarkable power, by which they could cut and raise enormous blocks of stone ,these men erected vast astronomical instruments, circles of erect pillars, PYRAMIDS, underground tunnels, cyclopean alignments, whose course from horizon to horizon was marked by stones, mounds, and earthwork.
 Quoting: history

John Mitchell's "The View Over Atlantis", p69:
[link to www.despatch.cth.com.au]

so we know upon this day the system is on in a manner it was not before rockon
 Quoting: aether

 Quoting: aether


i get it
it does not absorb incoming very excessive energy it radiates it back into the universe a la tesla style silently and efficiently being it`self powered by telluric currents

oh i get it

Large "telluric currents" have been found circulating through Earth's crust because our magnetic field induces current flow in conductive strata. Thousands of amperes flow beneath the surface, varying according to conductivity. Since the Sun can affect Earth's magnetic field through geomagnetic storms, fluctuations in telluric currents can occur when there is an increase in sunspots or solar flares, because they create oscillations in the ionosphere
 Quoting: science


the system feeds of telluric currents
if those currents approach potential to alter our magnetic field the system kicks in and utilizes the currents thus dissipating their energy back into our universe silently and efficiently by conversion into longitudinal waves (scalar)
no heat or mess,just energy/information effectively back to source (universe)
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...


Even has paint minimized at the bottom of this one..... sound suspicious?
 Quoting: Relish


I had paint open so I could save the screenshot. I wouldn't waste my time creating a fake earthquake to scare anyone.
 Quoting: RelaxingVibes


Not accusing you, but seeing it did make me think about how realistic such an out of mind thing happening could be. NO OFFENCE intended Relaxing :) Just stating that someone could have easily done this in paint, not that you did it specifically. My bet is on a glitch in the site as you both say it was actually there.

Peace between us friends, probably not a suspect in GLP just a friendly UFO passing by and the government covering it up by removing it from the site, lol.
 Quoting: Relish


rockon

so what are we seeing

sometimes



artifacts that replicate what can happen within our electric universe

maybe
alien03
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so what is the message?

 Quoting: aether


lol
well what could occur will not occur is the message
at least on that scale rockon
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i get it
it does not absorb incoming very excessive energy it radiates it back into the universe a la tesla style silently and efficiently being it`self powered by telluric currents

oh i get it

Large "telluric currents" have been found circulating through Earth's crust because our magnetic field induces current flow in conductive strata. Thousands of amperes flow beneath the surface, varying according to conductivity. Since the Sun can affect Earth's magnetic field through geomagnetic storms, fluctuations in telluric currents can occur when there is an increase in sunspots or solar flares, because they create oscillations in the ionosphere
Quoting: science


the system feeds of telluric currents
if those currents approach potential to alter our magnetic field the system kicks in and utilizes the currents thus dissipating their energy back into our universe silently and efficiently by conversion into longitudinal waves (scalar)
no heat or mess,just energy/information effectively back to source (universe)
 Quoting: aether


Examples of scalar quantities in Newtonian mechanics:
electric charge and charge density
[link to en.wikipedia.org]
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strong desire to hunt
odd
oh well
fuck it
why not

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not a signal to be heard
LOL
oh well
their nuts anyway
hmmm
now this is the fun that forms me happy
why natural "wings" exist huh

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Einstein described a Newtonian gravity well as a curvature of the field. If you assume that there is no aether particle field, then you are left to say that the curvature of the field is the curvature of empty space.

Spacetime is based on the concept that light travels at a limited speed, and therefore the information you receive from the universe must take into account where and when the signal was sent. In other words, the limited speed of light will produce illusions that must be accounted for when "decoding" your observations. Special relativity and then GR take this a step further and say that the "illusions" are physically determinant - for example: he claims that travelling fast makes clocks go slower, but whilst you are travelling really fast you do not see your clock as going slower. Then when you get home less time will have past for you than for you twin brother who stayed at home. He is claiming that not only did the clock go slower, but that time went slower, hence you aged less than your non-travelling brother. This concept can also be expressed by sentence: "sit down and smoke another one".
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Yes, but I believe you will have aged less not because time ran slower, but because atoms decay slower in high gravity fields or at high velocities. If the trip is 10 years both brothers will say ten years passed, yet one is younger. not because less time passed for him, but because his atoms decayed slower. Well one will argue time went slower, but what is time but the decay of atoms. So the only possible solution is a standard clock free of all gravitational and velocity affects (an impossibility.) I still say both clocks agree, if you convert either one to the other frame, which you MUST do if you want to compare them, else comparison is useless, then both clocks agree that either 10 years has passed or less, depending on which frame is converted to which frame. If your clock says a second is so long and it says the other is shorter, then both cannot be seconds from your frame. But if convert his frame to your frame, then both become seconds of the same duration again, and vice versa.

It's all a mind game to prevent you from looking at the base presumptions and equations and discovering their flaws
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. It is possible to do so but every modification weakens it and for the speed of gravity its entirely unnecessary considering that near instant communication is sufficient to explain observations. Introducing c as a limit was/is purely to keep SR & GR in vogue. Engineers are happy to continue to use Newtons laws. Relativity adjustments were/are entirely unnecessary and that's where the real test of a theory is. Unfortunately scientists feel they need to fit SR & GR into whatever it is they are working on so they are not ridiculed or blackballed, and more naive scientists try to build upon this house of cards when their theories would probably benefit from ignoring these pseudo constraints.
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I agree, scientists would be much better off starting from scratch. Not much gravity research is being done in this day and age due to the simple fact that whenever someone tries to research it the answers do not agree with theory, so it has been basically dropped. If nearly instantaneous speed for the gravitational force was so wrong, as you say, we would not still have Newton's laws on the books. Of course they will tell you that it is only approximate and for more precise calculations GR must be used. The funny thing is though GR reduces to Newtonian physics. This is because GR leaves out aberration which in affect gives a theory of light traveling at c an actual infinite speed for it. It is quite a neat slight of hand, divert you with fancy words so you do not look closely at the math. The math has zero aberration, which means gravity travels at near infinite speed, plain and simple. Light has aberration, and it is plainly in the math for SR and GR concerning light, but not for gravity. This is how GR reduces to Newtonian theory, by neglecting aberration. If something has no aberration it's speed must be infinite.
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gravity has nothing to do with tides, that it is purely caused by the E/M force.


"E/M force" is in this respect the same as planet "charge" force. That is to say it is not electrical or magnet it is simply a pushing force in opposition to the gravitational vector.
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as the electrical force is both attractive and repulsive in nature, depending on the distance between charged bodies. And btw, if it has charge, it is electrical in nature whether you define it as such or not. No charge, no electrical force, charge, electrical force. And nothing that exists (is real) has no charge contrary to any claims that may say otherwise. Nor are their virtual particles. That is simply a cop out to avoid saying we haven't a clue so we are going to make something up. Everything that exists consists of 3 things:
1) Spin
2) Charge
3) Mass
You can bet if something is said to not have one of those three things then you can put it with the rest of the files in file 13. The simple fact is there is nothing in the entire universe that does not operate in one way or another with electrical forces. If several quanta added together make a photon, then the quanta have to be electrical in nature or they could not make a photon that consists of the E/M force
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you remember sickscent
2010 for the politics and 2011 for the physics
the politics were done by sept 2010
physics looks like the same for 2011 rockon

walter spins again

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The electric energy which motivates us is not within our bodies at all. It is a part of the universal supply which flows through us from the Universal Source with an intensity set by our desires and our will.
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you remember sickscent
2010 for the politics and 2011 for the physics
the politics were done by sept 2010
physics looks like the same for 2011 rockon

walter spins again


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Pgs 1 & 2 again core tori. We're compounding.

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you remember sickscent
2010 for the politics and 2011 for the physics
the politics were done by sept 2010
physics looks like the same for 2011 rockon

walter spins again


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It almost never leaves my mind.
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The electric energy which motivates us is not within our bodies at all. It is a part of the universal supply which flows through us from the Universal Source with an intensity set by our desires and our will.
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WHOA! JUST LIKE THE SUN IS SUPPLIED FROM GALACTIC SUPPLY!


But we block the flow, do not allow it perfect passage through us. We twist it out of natural form as it tries to flow through the distorted architecture we've built upon primordial archetypes.

Just as you said before, the male and female...we are stars!

This is a massive revelation for me. Thank you for posting that, aether.
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Einstein described a Newtonian gravity well as a curvature of the field. If you assume that there is no aether particle field, then you are left to say that the curvature of the field is the curvature of empty space.

Spacetime is based on the concept that light travels at a limited speed, and therefore the information you receive from the universe must take into account where and when the signal was sent. In other words, the limited speed of light will produce illusions that must be accounted for when "decoding" your observations. Special relativity and then GR take this a step further and say that the "illusions" are physically determinant - for example: he claims that travelling fast makes clocks go slower, but whilst you are travelling really fast you do not see your clock as going slower. Then when you get home less time will have past for you than for you twin brother who stayed at home. He is claiming that not only did the clock go slower, but that time went slower, hence you aged less than your non-travelling brother. This concept can also be expressed by sentence: "sit down and smoke another one".
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Yes, but I believe you will have aged less not because time ran slower, but because atoms decay slower in high gravity fields or at high velocities. If the trip is 10 years both brothers will say ten years passed, yet one is younger. not because less time passed for him, but because his atoms decayed slower. Well one will argue time went slower, but what is time but the decay of atoms. So the only possible solution is a standard clock free of all gravitational and velocity affects (an impossibility.) I still say both clocks agree, if you convert either one to the other frame, which you MUST do if you want to compare them, else comparison is useless, then both clocks agree that either 10 years has passed or less, depending on which frame is converted to which frame. If your clock says a second is so long and it says the other is shorter, then both cannot be seconds from your frame. But if convert his frame to your frame, then both become seconds of the same duration again, and vice versa.

It's all a mind game to prevent you from looking at the base presumptions and equations and discovering their flaws
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. It is possible to do so but every modification weakens it and for the speed of gravity its entirely unnecessary considering that near instant communication is sufficient to explain observations. Introducing c as a limit was/is purely to keep SR & GR in vogue. Engineers are happy to continue to use Newtons laws. Relativity adjustments were/are entirely unnecessary and that's where the real test of a theory is. Unfortunately scientists feel they need to fit SR & GR into whatever it is they are working on so they are not ridiculed or blackballed, and more naive scientists try to build upon this house of cards when their theories would probably benefit from ignoring these pseudo constraints.
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I agree, scientists would be much better off starting from scratch. Not much gravity research is being done in this day and age due to the simple fact that whenever someone tries to research it the answers do not agree with theory, so it has been basically dropped. If nearly instantaneous speed for the gravitational force was so wrong, as you say, we would not still have Newton's laws on the books. Of course they will tell you that it is only approximate and for more precise calculations GR must be used. The funny thing is though GR reduces to Newtonian physics. This is because GR leaves out aberration which in affect gives a theory of light traveling at c an actual infinite speed for it. It is quite a neat slight of hand, divert you with fancy words so you do not look closely at the math. The math has zero aberration, which means gravity travels at near infinite speed, plain and simple. Light has aberration, and it is plainly in the math for SR and GR concerning light, but not for gravity. This is how GR reduces to Newtonian theory, by neglecting aberration. If something has no aberration it's speed must be infinite.
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gravity has nothing to do with tides, that it is purely caused by the E/M force.


"E/M force" is in this respect the same as planet "charge" force. That is to say it is not electrical or magnet it is simply a pushing force in opposition to the gravitational vector.
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as the electrical force is both attractive and repulsive in nature, depending on the distance between charged bodies. And btw, if it has charge, it is electrical in nature whether you define it as such or not. No charge, no electrical force, charge, electrical force. And nothing that exists (is real) has no charge contrary to any claims that may say otherwise. Nor are their virtual particles. That is simply a cop out to avoid saying we haven't a clue so we are going to make something up. Everything that exists consists of 3 things:
1) Spin
2) Charge
3) Mass
You can bet if something is said to not have one of those three things then you can put it with the rest of the files in file 13. The simple fact is there is nothing in the entire universe that does not operate in one way or another with electrical forces. If several quanta added together make a photon, then the quanta have to be electrical in nature or they could not make a photon that consists of the E/M force
.
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Charge is nothing more than stored mechanical energy, as bodies move they accumulate charge by their movement against each other, on whatever scale you wish to apply this. Rub your feet across a carpet, you accumulate charge, when you come close enough to your door handle you release this excess charge. Every single atom or sub-particle is spinning and moving in relation to every other particle. Even in a rock the atoms are not touching, but spinning, there is space between the molecules. This is why every atom has an inherent magnetic field. Some chemical compounds just allow the alignment of electrons easier than others.
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Society for Psychical Research

Founded in 1882, The SPR was the first society to conduct organised scholarly research into human experiences that challenge contemporary scientific models.
[link to www.spr.ac.uk]

The SPR was the first organisation established to examine allegedly paranormal phenomena using scientific principles. Our aim is to learn more about events and abilities commonly described as "psychic" or "paranormal" by supporting research, sharing information and encouraging debate. Our members come from all over the world, and represent a variety of academic and professional interests. We welcome active researchers as well as people who simply want to know more about the subject
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