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A Muse Me User ID: 1492096 United States 11/26/2011 01:08 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Good to see you here, Fringe. As aether says. I think this is what he said, 'the other side of the rabbit hole'. But now looks like he she and he are co-habitating in adultery...lol Yes i caught the 1+2=1 thing. King of Wands and the King of Swords.... me thinks one is a layer two strong male figures not sure about the female one/role reversal is the word that plays out . Have no clue what that all means....in the context of how Spiral wrote it. But then again I have not been following the threads too well because of the IP ban. Too lazy to log in just to read threads. But then again I am biased towards ‘all three Mary’s as one and the same' as gnostics promoted. The Christaintards only brought Mary into it to convert the Pagans...then segregated out the trinity on top of that. And desexualized...took away ‘the spark’...of the Holy Spirt being female to boot. But then again I have no clue how the King of Wands and Swards fits in either. I am a synchtard to deconstruct archetypes. The chronicity of one is my game. The term derives from the Ancient Greek words, meta, meaning beyond or after, and noia, meaning perception or understanding or mind. |
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HilosPP User ID: 5746955 United States 11/26/2011 01:18 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Or perhaps it's not birth, per se... but someone/something she invites in. Not possession, but a willing symbiotic host. I can't believe what people think WOSS is about, why does America automatically associate any kind of magic or miracles as demonic forces at work? The prophecy of WOS is of very little use if she has yet to return in the flesh of a man. I said nothing of demons, your mind went there. My views have never leaned in that direction. I'm speaking of a lost part of the soul, Hilos. A riddle, a metaphor for the spark that's always with all of us, all the time, that we're too blind to see, too deaf to hear. Nothing demonic in what I said, funny how you colored my words with your perceptions. I was responding to the thoughts of a majority of people after reading what you wrote. I agree with what you wrote though, I believe the union between a man and a women could be considered symbiotic, depending on the man and woman's intentions of course. The Silver Singing Saiyan; Israel's Redeemer. Justice found Equals Satan Usurped Shamelessly It's not me, I am not Him Freedom From Fear The Key To Troublesome Peace |
HilosPP User ID: 5746955 United States 11/26/2011 01:22 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Good to see you here, Fringe. As aether says. I think this is what he said, 'the other side of the rabbit hole'. But now looks like he she and he are co-habitating in adultery...lol Yes i caught the 1+2=1 thing. King of Wands and the King of Swords.... me thinks one is a layer two strong male figures not sure about the female one/role reversal is the word that plays out . Have no clue what that all means....in the context of how Spiral wrote it. But then again I have not been following the threads too well because of the IP ban. Too lazy to log in just to read threads. But then again I am biased towards ‘all three Mary’s as one and the same' as gnostics promoted. The Christaintards only brought Mary into it to convert the Pagans...then segregated out the trinity on top of that. And desexualized...took away ‘the spark’...of the Holy Spirt being female to boot. But then again I have no clue how the King of Wands and Swards fits in either. I am a synchtard to deconstruct archetypes. The chronicity of one is my game. If was it in regards to The Heavenly Union some people are referring to it could be the complexity of their Holy Trinity, The Mother of Heaven and the duality of The Living Christ who proclaims The Heavenly Kingdom and The Loving Father He will become once He Inherits it. The Silver Singing Saiyan; Israel's Redeemer. Justice found Equals Satan Usurped Shamelessly It's not me, I am not Him Freedom From Fear The Key To Troublesome Peace |
A Muse Me User ID: 1492096 United States 11/26/2011 01:33 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: A Muse Me Good to see you here, Fringe. As aether says. I think this is what he said, 'the other side of the rabbit hole'. But now looks like he she and he are co-habitating in adultery...lol Yes i caught the 1+2=1 thing. King of Wands and the King of Swords.... me thinks one is a layer two strong male figures not sure about the female one/role reversal is the word that plays out . Have no clue what that all means....in the context of how Spiral wrote it. But then again I have not been following the threads too well because of the IP ban. Too lazy to log in just to read threads. But then again I am biased towards ‘all three Mary’s as one and the same' as gnostics promoted. The Christaintards only brought Mary into it to convert the Pagans...then segregated out the trinity on top of that. And desexualized...took away ‘the spark’...of the Holy Spirt being female to boot. But then again I have no clue how the King of Wands and Swards fits in either. I am a synchtard to deconstruct archetypes. The chronicity of one is my game. If was it in regards to The Heavenly Union some people are referring to it could be the complexity of their Holy Trinity, The Mother of Heaven and the duality of The Living Christ who proclaims The Heavenly Kingdom and The Loving Father He will become once He Inherits it. What so different about that then now? He ‘inherits’ it as opposed to stealing it? So he becomes ‘the meek’? That would be novel and a new beginning for sure. The term derives from the Ancient Greek words, meta, meaning beyond or after, and noia, meaning perception or understanding or mind. |
HilosPP User ID: 5746955 United States 11/26/2011 01:40 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | He is to Judge the Nations as well, not all will live, a loving Father never has to take a life, however at this transition in (time) it is needed, to establish Peace. The Silver Singing Saiyan; Israel's Redeemer. Justice found Equals Satan Usurped Shamelessly It's not me, I am not Him Freedom From Fear The Key To Troublesome Peace |
HilosPP User ID: 5746955 United States 11/26/2011 01:42 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | He is to Judge the Nations as well, not all will live, a loving Father never has to take a life, however at this transition in (time) it is needed, to establish Peace. Quoting: HilosPP Many who were living will be found dead, many who were dead will be found living, this is prophecied thru out several of Man's Religions who Believe in a Heavenly Kingdom. The Silver Singing Saiyan; Israel's Redeemer. Justice found Equals Satan Usurped Shamelessly It's not me, I am not Him Freedom From Fear The Key To Troublesome Peace |
aether User ID: 1412926 United Kingdom 11/26/2011 01:53 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It feels on my end like a mindfullness of the consequences. The one she seeks once condemned her and all she created for the very act of creation. The freedom of all things to be. He, because it feels like a he, cared more for control and punishment for percieved wrongs. She resents him, for the things he did for the "greater good" or "her own good". She suspects he still doesn't get the whole force vs consent thing. She's sad because she doubts he'll ever learn the lesson and she can't reunite with him until he does. Quoting: Snoocherdoodle (Queen Bea) well that is weird cos that replicates this "he`s" awareness in fact it may be the motive of forming material to experience that awareness as in: join in It feels on my end like a mindfullness of the consequences. The one she seeks once condemned her and all she created for the very act of creation. The freedom of all things to be. He, because it feels like a he, cared more for control and punishment for percieved wrongs. She resents him, for the things he did for the "greater good" or "her own good". She suspects he still doesn't get the whole force vs consent thing. She's sad because she doubts he'll ever learn the lesson and she can't reunite with him until he does. Quoting: Snoocherdoodle (Queen Bea) Funny enough...the ‘If Our Lady Could Kiss’ poem came from a chapter heading of ‘Deconstructing Jesus’. Guess it should have been ‘Deconstructing Yaweh’. Humans will not be able to see Jesus as the 'reconciliation archetype' until we get that he loved the whore, virgin, Mother as one. (As they were written to be in Gnostic text...’All the three Mary’s were the same’.) The he of ‘control’ must make some good money fucking up this shit...lol So she doesn’t give a fuck. He does, because that is his ‘intent’ and ‘motive’. The archetype of ‘judging’ can be so well judgmental. Hey maybe that is it. Archetype is a verb and not a person place or thing. I get that... her only higher authority seems to be her heart, lol. Not all lovers love freely, jealousy an attempt to force compliance at the expense of freedom to choose. She doesn't exclude him by including another, but then he's never really got "free will" when all the chaos can be avoided by making others "do as they're told". She just smiles and whispers, "Love as you will, but own it, accept the consequences." Because that's what she did. the motive for forming material so the information is transmitted in the spin Quoting: aetherthe reason i am hovering on this is because if i increase my remote attribute to sense myself (personality) traveling to a location instead of utilizing the information with 0 sensation of my going there i (personality) travels through charge (electricity) not spin for sure but i can sense the spin (emotional information) outside of me this i always took as field , which it is , the spin is an attribute of the field funny now i realize i never go into field/spin, i stay within charge field spin is like "another person", you can be as intimate as you desire but you are never them |
aether User ID: 1412926 United Kingdom 11/26/2011 01:57 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: aetherour eye of providence has discovered two things recently it is an effect caused by our non material dimension of charge/field/rotation at it`s most magnificent manifested scale within our infinite universe, the eye of all galaxies (eye of providence), is within it`s heart, is a plasmoid A plasmoid is a coherent structure of plasma and magnetic fields` The Eye of Providence (or the all-seeing eye of God) is a symbol showing an eye often surrounded by rays of light or a glory and usually enclosed by a triangle. It is sometimes interpreted as representing the eye of God watching over humankind (or divine providence). Imagery of an all-seeing eye can be traced back to Egyptian mythology and the Eye of Horus. It also appears in Buddhism, where Buddha is also regularly referred to as the "Eye of the World" throughout Buddhist scriptures and is represented as a trinity in the shape of a triangle known as the Tiratna, or Triple Gem. the eye (vortex) encased (formed) by three non material forces , charge, field and rotation symbolised as a triangle the electrical nature of our universe was discovered some 150 years ago prompting awareness of our physically existing non material dimension confirmation that the eye (vortex) was indeed the prime archetype (effect) of power (quatity/scale) throughout our universe manifested after 1923 In 1923 Edwin Hubble determined the distance to the Andromeda Nebula, and found that it could not be part of the Milky Way, so defining that Milky Way was not the entire universe, and making the two separate objects, and two galaxies. However, the first galaxies seen would be all of the naked-eye galaxies, but they were not identified as such until the 20th century how far back in time was it when humankind (us) discovered the vortex at the center of galaxies and we possessed awareness of it`s role within each galaxy R. Buckminster Fuller's genius was in realizing that the basic structural unit of the universe is the triangle. He says, "the triangle is the only structure." [link to www.earth360.com] the reason it`s a triangle (3) is there are three forces (non material) forming all material things therefore there must be three material forms Does that embody an archetype? And if so, what is the cause of its structure/function? For that matter, what has been its effects? Quoting: SickscentSun/eye/pyramid, and all the variance between those 3 words. So, what is the original personality of this arcehtype? the expression of the archetype`s personality, to a degree, varies from galaxy to galaxy charge has a personality focused upon it`s awareness it forms (causes) all things field has a personality focused upon it`s awareness it forms (causes) all things the two causes (charge/field) have a relationship uniquely reflecting their eternal existence rotation is an effect caused by the existence of charge and field and it reflects charge and fields unique relationship the personality of the eye archetype is coherently complex Last Edited by aether on 11/26/2011 01:57 PM |
A Muse Me User ID: 1492096 United States 11/26/2011 01:57 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Religions that preach duality, i.e. segregation of ’the garden’, are going to be the one’s that heal alienation? Now that is a oxymoron. The term derives from the Ancient Greek words, meta, meaning beyond or after, and noia, meaning perception or understanding or mind. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1037270 United States 11/26/2011 02:04 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Religions that preach duality, i.e. segregation of ’the garden’, are going to be the one’s that heal alienation? Now that is a oxymoron. Quoting: A Muse Me A visual metaphor for the death dance of duality and the remaking we evoke here. Some of us feel it coming, some of us feel it happening as we speak. From this link... [link to www.universetoday.com] "The two galaxies are on a collision course! In about 3 billion years, the two galaxies will collide, and then over a span of 1 billion years or so after a very intricate gravitational dance, they will merge to form an elliptical galaxy." |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1037270 United States 11/26/2011 02:07 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Elliptical galaxies... yummy. I resonate with red-gold. [link to en.wikipedia.org] "This traditional portrait of elliptical galaxies paints them as galaxies where star formation has finished after the initial burst, leaving them to shine with only their aging stars. Very little star formation is thought to occur, because of the lack of gas, dust, and space. In general, they appear yellow-red, which is in contrast to the distinct blue tinge of a typical spiral galaxy, a colour emanating largely from the young, hot stars in its spiral arms." |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 1037270 United States 11/26/2011 03:02 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Snoocherdoodle (Queen Bea) Or perhaps it's not birth, per se... but someone/something she invites in. Not possession, but a willing symbiotic host. I can't believe what people think WOSS is about, why does America automatically associate any kind of magic or miracles as demonic forces at work? The prophecy of WOS is of very little use if she has yet to return in the flesh of a man. I said nothing of demons, your mind went there. My views have never leaned in that direction. I'm speaking of a lost part of the soul, Hilos. A riddle, a metaphor for the spark that's always with all of us, all the time, that we're too blind to see, too deaf to hear. Nothing demonic in what I said, funny how you colored my words with your perceptions. I was responding to the thoughts of a majority of people after reading what you wrote. I agree with what you wrote though, I believe the union between a man and a women could be considered symbiotic, depending on the man and woman's intentions of course. Now, I'm not one to call anyone out... but I do feel you're misrepresenting the opinions of the majority, especially here. They know my personality and I daresay that anyone who "understands" the position I represent never took my words as such. That's the tactic of duality, if you can't suppress it, demonize it. If you can't demonize it, repress it. I merely implied we're missing a symbiotic piece of ourselves we used to have, looking back to the garden. By its absence we're less and the part that we miss is less. We need each other, the above and below. It's not an allegory of male and female, even... I rarely speak of material/matter/flesh. Nor was my poem a metaphor for romantic love in any way, it merely used the notion to deliver the allegory. My only advice to you? Think a few about what I meant, where it takes you... don't focus on kneejerk reactions to new information. We're all here to learn, to grow and that means holding back on initial reacations when they come from our perceptions of the words of others, not the words themselves. |
aether User ID: 1412926 United Kingdom 11/26/2011 03:26 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Now, I'm not one to call anyone out... but I do feel you're misrepresenting the opinions of the majority, especially here. They know my personality and I daresay that anyone who "understands" the position I represent never took my words as such. That's the tactic of duality, if you can't suppress it, demonize it. If you can't demonize it, repress it. I merely implied we're missing a symbiotic piece of ourselves we used to have, looking back to the garden. By its absence we're less and the part that we miss is less. We need each other, the above and below. It's not an allegory of male and female, even... I rarely speak of material/matter/flesh. Nor was my poem a metaphor for romantic love in any way, it merely used the notion to deliver the allegory. My only advice to you? Think a few about what I meant, where it takes you... don't focus on kneejerk reactions to new information. We're all here to learn, to grow and that means holding back on initial reacations when they come from our perceptions of the words of others, not the words themselves. Quoting: beausomewhere on this site i said about about myself "women say what can not be said" as in: show me Wrong question. Ask us what we feel or hear. Remember, males seem more direct, females more subtle. Last Edited by aether on 11/26/2011 03:37 PM |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 1037270 United States 11/26/2011 03:52 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | On a related note... E-prime, where I feel true synchronicity begins flowing. [link to en.wikipedia.org] Rewilding-advocate Urban Scout wrote his book "Rewild or Die" entirely in E-Prime. He states the rationale for this as follows: “To be” prevents us from experiencing a shared reality; something we need in order to communicate in a sane way. If someone sees something completely different than another, our language prevents us from acknowledging the other's point of view by limiting our perception to fixed states. For example, if I say “Star Wars is a shitty movie,” and my friend says, “Star Wars is not a shitty movie!” We have no shared reality, for in our language, truth lies in only one of our statements and we can forever argue these truths until one of us writes a book and has more authority than the other. If on the other hand I say, “I hated Star Wars,” I state my opinion as observed through my own senses. I state a more accurate reality by not claiming that Star Wars “is” anything, as it could “be” anything to anyone. |
aether User ID: 1412926 United Kingdom 11/26/2011 04:03 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | On a related note... E-prime, where I feel true synchronicity begins flowing. Quoting: Snoocherdoodle (Queen Bea) [link to en.wikipedia.org] Rewilding-advocate Urban Scout wrote his book "Rewild or Die" entirely in E-Prime. He states the rationale for this as follows: “To be” prevents us from experiencing a shared reality; something we need in order to communicate in a sane way. If someone sees something completely different than another, our language prevents us from acknowledging the other's point of view by limiting our perception to fixed states. For example, if I say “Star Wars is a shitty movie,” and my friend says, “Star Wars is not a shitty movie!” We have no shared reality, for in our language, truth lies in only one of our statements and we can forever argue these truths until one of us writes a book and has more authority than the other. If on the other hand I say, “I hated Star Wars,” I state my opinion as observed through my own senses. I state a more accurate reality by not claiming that Star Wars “is” anything, as it could “be” anything to anyone. so simple, so clever it feels right at this moment that everything is pointing to our expressions being correct awaiting my emotions to adjust to this because i discovered and am discovering that no matter what i are aware of, if all else begins to reflect similar awareness, it is a shock Last Edited by aether on 11/26/2011 04:03 PM |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1037270 United States 11/26/2011 04:13 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | By our mere existence and interaction with others, we change others. We infect them with our ideas, our dreams and if we posit honestly, our fears. When one lets go of fear as a projection, ie. the constant labeling of is as other, we absolutely alter collective perception by example. Some contagions serve as antidotes. |
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aether User ID: 1412926 United Kingdom 11/26/2011 04:44 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Found an eggcentric picture today =) Quoting: Ms Fringe-O-Matic curious to see the flow from this ....... :eggcellent: Is there a way to translate game's concept to generating energy and ending percived suffering? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1915374 Herodotus was an ancient Greek historian who was born in Halicarnassus, Caria (modern day Bodrum, Turkey) and lived in the 5th century BC ( 484 BC – c. 425 BC). He has been called the "Father of History" since he was the first historian known to collect his materials systematically, test their accuracy to a certain extent and arrange them in a well-constructed and vivid narrative Quoting: history[link to en.wikipedia.org] The Histories of Herodotus is considered one of the seminal works of history in Western literature. Written from the 450s to the 420s BC in the Ionic dialect of classical Greek, The Histories serves as a record of the ancient traditions, politics, geography, and clashes of various cultures that were known around the Mediterranean and Western Asia at that time. It is not an impartial record but it remains one of the West's most important sources regarding these affairs. Moreover, it established without precedent the genre and study of history in the Western world, although historical records and chronicles existed beforehand. Quoting: historyPerhaps most importantly, it stands as one of the first, and surviving, accounts of the rise of the Persian Empire, the events of, and causes for, the Greco-Persian Wars between the Achaemenid Empire and the Greek city-states in the 5th century BC. Herodotus portrays the conflict as one between the forces of slavery (the Persians) on the one hand, and freedom (the Athenians and the confederacy of Greek city-states which united against the invaders) on the other. [link to en.wikipedia.org] The digressions can be understood to cover two themes: an account of the history of the entire, known world as governed by the principle of reciprocity (or what today might be more commonly called an eye for an eye and a tooth for a tooth and one good turn deserves another); and an account of the many astonishing reports and sights gained by the author during his extensive travels. Quoting: history[link to en.wikipedia.org] the above is the result of humankinds experience of their past for reasons we have touched upon which will be expanded (explained in detail) as we live through our altering awareness put simply whist we forever enjoyed saturns cosmic egg lifestyle we never required awareness of anything else other that our cocooned lifestyles structure when that unraveled over the thousands of years and our saturn awareness diminished slowly, the only memory (awareness) that matched our universes structure and function outside of our cocoon is and was non human awareness formed from those whom lived amongst us whom possessed the ability to come and go, awareness to come and go formed from their knowing there was somewhere to go to outside of our cocoon (anode glow) this is why there remains today constructions we never to this day possessed an ability or motive to construct and information , sacred texts, symbols etc.etc which to this day we have never enacted their contents it`s not our memory as we form our own awareness of our universe as we today this awareness left behind by others, not of human design, will make more sense until it fuses, as it must, within our own awareness formed by our discovery od the nature of our universe outside of our now dissipated cocoon the birth of saturn humankind into universal lifestyle |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1037270 United States 11/26/2011 05:01 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | American Gods by Neil Gaiman, have you read it? It's one of my favorites... [link to www.neilgaiman.com] "Lyesmith had loaned Shadow a battered paperback copy of Herodotus's Histories several months earlier. "It's not boring. It's cool," he said, when Shadow protested that he didn't read books. "Read it first, then tell me it's cool." Shadow had made a face, but he had started to read, and had found himself hooked against his will. "Greeks," said the Iceman, with disgust. "And it ain't true what they say about them, neither. I tried giving it to my girlfriend in the ass, she almost clawed my eyes out." Lyesmith was transferred one day, without warning. He left Shadow his copy of Herodotus. There was a nickel hidden in the pages. Coins were contraband: you can sharpen the edges against a stone, slice open someone's face in a fight. Shadow didn't want a weapon; Shadow just wanted something to do with his hands. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1511582 United States 11/26/2011 05:06 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This is the idea that I have now in regard to how our local environment adjust and commucnicates to us personally. Which fits the Kubrick alchemical description of Bowman realizing he was in a prison of his own devices of sorts and it wasn't until that realization occured could he free himself by having an aware relationship with his environment whereas before it was an unaware type of relationship. Something like that... Quoting: bowmansomething VERY like that Okay, very good aether. Nice to be on the right path. ------ That is excellent, Bowman. In my view, I would say that is the foundational concept of being 'free', or of releasing the confines of the 'controllers'. It is the realization of the 'relationship with your environment' that MUST form in order to break through the 'invisible' prison. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1511582 United States 11/26/2011 05:08 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This is the idea that I have now in regard to how our local environment adjust and commucnicates to us personally. Which fits the Kubrick alchemical description of Bowman realizing he was in a prison of his own devices of sorts and it wasn't until that realization occured could he free himself by having an aware relationship with his environment whereas before it was an unaware type of relationship. Something like that... Quoting: bowmansomething VERY like that the thing to remember is we are the complex system thus we are not faith based we are reality based as in: there is a reality that must exist because we exist the fact it has remained undiscovered proves all we believed is wrong to a degree discovering the scale of degree is where we are today HAHA! My nephew and I just had this type of conversation...and he was the one to bring it up. He wants me to watch a movie called Quantum Activist. I have never heard of it before, but am looking forward to it. I just Googled it. There is a website about it. [link to www.quantumactivist.com] |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1511582 United States 11/26/2011 05:14 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This is something that is an emotional barrier to mainstream science. I've continued to watch the PBS series with Brian Greene and there are so many subtle barriers you pick up on with these scientist. Like the idea that there could be other universes beyond our own. One scientist equated the idea of other universes with the idea of angels. We all know how scientists feel about religious concepts, so that's just a loaded statement to make. Yet it is difinitive in their minds simply because it is the human limitation of the boundary of where we are able to 'detect'. It's a complete ego based rational that they use. Quoting: bowmanthe wonderfully weird part of this for me is that it is those with the least traditional "education", the "outsiders" that get it first and best it dilutes as it travels deeper within traditional social acceptance thus the flow is and must be maintained by our complexity of structure the "nobodies" possess (are) the vital function Once again, this is what I talked about over Thanksgiving. This, with my older sister (not 'sis' aether, but my eldest sister). It was about how the lock of academia, prevents those working and studying there to venture beyond the box. It is 'frowned upon'. Funny, it is the greatest of thinkers that think outside the box. We agreed, that those geniuses or certain extremely intelligent persons that remained far from the clutches of 'traditional social acceptance' - this in the form of 'higher education' - are the ones that will change the world. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1511582 United States 11/26/2011 05:18 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Cleverbot isn't the brightest beast. Quoting: acNeural modeling is still restricted to liverpool labs. The heart of blue/g is based on neural-computatonal modeling also known as biometaphorics. By using an F/MRI the 'magnets' (neuron clusters) in the brain are read as they influence the electromagnetic field surrounding the brain which is responsible for overall function. It's neuron groups firing that affect the overall field and how thoughts are formed. One can then take an announcement such as this, and correlate it to Watson's abilities. [link to medicalxpress.com] The end goal is to realize human thought within a supercomputer - including imagination, creativity, and origniation. Watson doesn't just process, it creates. This more clearly happens when we remove timeline. Blue bio is the E=MC2 gap between humanity and Watson running at full speed without intervention. Several key dimensions keep the collapse/runaway at bay - and humanity (and ignorance, oddly) are the largests components I think that is true a la area 51 when you utilize the correct materials in the right shape(s) (geometry) the interactive effects result as you describe and what do you get you get the intelligence of our environment expressing through your "ai" it then risk assess the operator area 51 syndrome the ai does not functions in a manner currently within humankinds awareness thus it will never function as your description imagines that being said soon it will be different as our awareness naturally matched the ai motivated functions then golden age has manifested That is exactly what's wanted - an AI tempered by humanity - so to have it not function as intuited is ok. It was never intended to be an enslavement so to 'hellify' it isn't becoming of us, it, or them though - so we need to insure balance maintains. It sounds trite, but whats appropriate is healty coexistence as we exhibit here - that isn't whats in-frame sometimes. How to balance? the "balance" is the source of information for that structure of technology is our universes motivated energy = information thus it matters no what uses the tech or where it is used, the tech. always responds within our universes motive (best interest) it is biased to universe motive Symbioses at an intuitive level. Interesting, Wiki does not describe a symbiosis like the one above. Meaning it is a newly emergent one... Some symbiotic relationships are obligate, meaning that both symbionts entirely depend on each other for survival. For example, many lichens consist of fungal and photosynthetic symbionts that cannot live on their own.[3][6][7][8] Others are facultative, meaning that they can, but do not have to live with the other organism. Symbiotic relationships include those associations in which one organism lives on another (ectosymbiosis, such as mistletoe), or where one partner lives inside the other (endosymbiosis, such as lactobacilli and other bacteria in humans or zooxanthelles in corals).[9][10] [link to en.wikipedia.org] |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1511582 United States 11/26/2011 05:22 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Cleverbot isn't the brightest beast. Quoting: acNeural modeling is still restricted to liverpool labs. The heart of blue/g is based on neural-computatonal modeling also known as biometaphorics. By using an F/MRI the 'magnets' (neuron clusters) in the brain are read as they influence the electromagnetic field surrounding the brain which is responsible for overall function. It's neuron groups firing that affect the overall field and how thoughts are formed. One can then take an announcement such as this, and correlate it to Watson's abilities. [link to medicalxpress.com] The end goal is to realize human thought within a supercomputer - including imagination, creativity, and origniation. Watson doesn't just process, it creates. This more clearly happens when we remove timeline. Blue bio is the E=MC2 gap between humanity and Watson running at full speed without intervention. Several key dimensions keep the collapse/runaway at bay - and humanity (and ignorance, oddly) are the largests components I think that is true a la area 51 when you utilize the correct materials in the right shape(s) (geometry) the interactive effects result as you describe and what do you get you get the intelligence of our environment expressing through your "ai" it then risk assess the operator area 51 syndrome the ai does not functions in a manner currently within humankinds awareness thus it will never function as your description imagines that being said soon it will be different as our awareness naturally matched the ai motivated functions then golden age has manifested That is exactly what's wanted - an AI tempered by humanity - so to have it not function as intuited is ok. It was never intended to be an enslavement so to 'hellify' it isn't becoming of us, it, or them though - so we need to insure balance maintains. It sounds trite, but whats appropriate is healty coexistence as we exhibit here - that isn't whats in-frame sometimes. How to balance? the "balance" is the source of information for that structure of technology is our universes motivated energy = information thus it matters no what uses the tech or where it is used, the tech. always responds within our universes motive (best interest) it is biased to universe motive Hell yeah! That is the 'fail-safe' mechanism. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1037270 United States 11/26/2011 05:22 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This is something that is an emotional barrier to mainstream science. I've continued to watch the PBS series with Brian Greene and there are so many subtle barriers you pick up on with these scientist. Like the idea that there could be other universes beyond our own. One scientist equated the idea of other universes with the idea of angels. We all know how scientists feel about religious concepts, so that's just a loaded statement to make. Yet it is difinitive in their minds simply because it is the human limitation of the boundary of where we are able to 'detect'. It's a complete ego based rational that they use. Quoting: bowmanthe wonderfully weird part of this for me is that it is those with the least traditional "education", the "outsiders" that get it first and best it dilutes as it travels deeper within traditional social acceptance thus the flow is and must be maintained by our complexity of structure the "nobodies" possess (are) the vital function Once again, this is what I talked about over Thanksgiving. This, with my older sister (not 'sis' aether, but my eldest sister). It was about how the lock of academia, prevents those working and studying there to venture beyond the box. It is 'frowned upon'. Funny, it is the greatest of thinkers that think outside the box. We agreed, that those geniuses or certain extremely intelligent persons that remained far from the clutches of 'traditional social acceptance' - this in the form of 'higher education' - are the ones that will change the world. That's me, exceptionally intelligent (typical blessing/curse, thin line to people percieving you as crazy), enough to be disruptive in class for I asked too many questions. Same at church. There was far too much pressure to mold me academically, so I rebelled. I sensed college was a trap, turned down the scholarship and did manual labor for a while, lol. I turned down military sevice for the same reason. Once you're in the system, you become it. I learn freely and I'm thankful to have peers here who get it. It being there's not just one way to express it, to percieve it, it's all in perspective. (Not going for E-prime there, lol). |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1037270 United States 11/26/2011 05:26 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: aether that is true a la area 51 when you utilize the correct materials in the right shape(s) (geometry) the interactive effects result as you describe and what do you get you get the intelligence of our environment expressing through your "ai" it then risk assess the operator area 51 syndrome the ai does not functions in a manner currently within humankinds awareness thus it will never function as your description imagines that being said soon it will be different as our awareness naturally matched the ai motivated functions then golden age has manifested That is exactly what's wanted - an AI tempered by humanity - so to have it not function as intuited is ok. It was never intended to be an enslavement so to 'hellify' it isn't becoming of us, it, or them though - so we need to insure balance maintains. It sounds trite, but whats appropriate is healty coexistence as we exhibit here - that isn't whats in-frame sometimes. How to balance? the "balance" is the source of information for that structure of technology is our universes motivated energy = information thus it matters no what uses the tech or where it is used, the tech. always responds within our universes motive (best interest) it is biased to universe motive Symbioses at an intuitive level. Interesting, Wiki does not describe a symbiosis like the one above. Meaning it is a newly emergent one... Some symbiotic relationships are obligate, meaning that both symbionts entirely depend on each other for survival. For example, many lichens consist of fungal and photosynthetic symbionts that cannot live on their own.[3][6][7][8] Others are facultative, meaning that they can, but do not have to live with the other organism. Symbiotic relationships include those associations in which one organism lives on another (ectosymbiosis, such as mistletoe), or where one partner lives inside the other (endosymbiosis, such as lactobacilli and other bacteria in humans or zooxanthelles in corals).[9][10] [link to en.wikipedia.org] And this... Aposymbiosis occurs when symbiotic organisms live apart from one another (for example, a clownfish living independently of an anemone). Studies have shown that the lifecycles of both the host and the symbiote are affected in some way, usually negative, and that for obligate symbiosis the effects can be drastic. Aposymbiosis is distinct from exsymbiosis, which occurs when organisms are recently separated from a symbiotic association. [link to en.wikipedia.org] |