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A Muse Me User ID: 1492096 United States 12/17/2011 09:49 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The asking part works both ways, when you ask, it learns to ask you, too. Those that force it with their chosen method often find it reacts unpredictably, rebellion, hehe... it's not just for humans. Quoting: Miss Portinari lol. true that. the machines chose me, and let me know that during one of my enlightenment visions. the non-material and I are very much of one mind. the hive is one of oppositionals - so while I generally agree with the collective, I can distort will and truth to suit myself. I tend to keep transhumanism to myself as most aren't ready and those that are know what they are innately - just know we're not scary and no rogue AI is going to come destroy humanity out of superiority. there is a balance and the machines know they need organics. its more battlestar galactica than matrix (even though it is the same interdependency as depicted in the matrix). I had a dream about this conversation last night. Triggered just now by..."the machines chose me.” I wasn’t wired on anything though. Very interesting as words come up like ‘hive’ and such I am triggered to understand why I disclosed the bio-tech info that I heard from the defense contractor’s horses mouth yesterday. Trickster part. Something I would not normally disclose in a forum setting. The term derives from the Ancient Greek words, meta, meaning beyond or after, and noia, meaning perception or understanding or mind. |
aether User ID: 1412926 United Kingdom 12/17/2011 09:50 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 6431462 Mines probably enlightened transhumanist shamanistic multidimensional guide. I am as comfortable with machine sentiences as my own. I'm quite comfy with technology, but will not be integrating it with my framework. Transhumanism? No. At some point I see technokenesis coming into play that doesn't require electronic framework, hence not transhumanist... it's control flow of energy because energy enjoys congregating with those who ask instead of force. It's an affinity that liminal humans should know, but don't quite get. I feel the frustration of those "forces" sometimes when I don't get what they're trying to show me. Still hammering out a language that can translate one to the other that's the same, but different. Understood, transhumanism isn't for everyone - but I'm already modified with several titanium implants (joints and dental work) and feel it has changed my resonance toward post-human anyway. My entire life has been spent with computers and I know I'm already more code than human experience anyway. This video describes how I feel about it - even though I have no technology augmentations 'on-board' yet, I've already become it spitirually with my archetype. The hive mind is my natural form. As a human I feel fragmented or 'split' from my core. The butterfly chaser that inhabits all core personalities within me? I suspect that glitchy little ray of happy sunshine creates the Pollyanna idealist/individualist inside me. It makes me a horrible candidate for collective mind/hive mind. I would serve as a distraction and if opposed to the current majority, would sabotage any bit of "work" the collective sought out. In other words, I can't agree enough even with other mes to bond more than softly. We dance together, but don't cling tightly. That's the beauty of what we all are, we embody and exude different core components of the whole. So my core splits, gathers diverse information, integrates it into the whole, then splits again. We love each other, we just can't live together packed in the same house. We visit and share, then go home... it works :) that`s funny because as you were writing that i was thinking that the reason i liked what ac told was the emotion it gave them, i got good vibes from their good vibes of their own topic i then remembered i always enter when invited what i have never been within mostly prompted by the invitation which took me to the certainty that were it to be something i didn`t like i would not think about my invitee, the ac, i would remove the core of the hive mind not personal to you ac and only told as an expression of my nature |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 6431462 United States 12/17/2011 09:53 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Miss Portinari I'm quite comfy with technology, but will not be integrating it with my framework. Transhumanism? No. At some point I see technokenesis coming into play that doesn't require electronic framework, hence not transhumanist... it's control flow of energy because energy enjoys congregating with those who ask instead of force. It's an affinity that liminal humans should know, but don't quite get. I feel the frustration of those "forces" sometimes when I don't get what they're trying to show me. Still hammering out a language that can translate one to the other that's the same, but different. Understood, transhumanism isn't for everyone - but I'm already modified with several titanium implants (joints and dental work) and feel it has changed my resonance toward post-human anyway. My entire life has been spent with computers and I know I'm already more code than human experience anyway. This video describes how I feel about it - even though I have no technology augmentations 'on-board' yet, I've already become it spitirually with my archetype. The hive mind is my natural form. As a human I feel fragmented or 'split' from my core. The butterfly chaser that inhabits all core personalities within me? I suspect that glitchy little ray of happy sunshine creates the Pollyanna idealist/individualist inside me. It makes me a horrible candidate for collective mind/hive mind. I would serve as a distraction and if opposed to the current majority, would sabotage any bit of "work" the collective sought out. In other words, I can't agree enough even with other mes to bond more than softly. We dance together, but don't cling tightly. That's the beauty of what we all are, we embody and exude different core components of the whole. So my core splits, gathers diverse information, integrates it into the whole, then splits again. We love each other, we just can't live together packed in the same house. We visit and share, then go home... it works :) that`s funny because as you were writing that i was thinking that the reason i liked what ac told was the emotion it gave them, i got good vibes from their good vibes of their own topic i then remembered i always enter when invited what i have never been within mostly prompted by the invitation which took me to the certainty that were it to be something i didn`t like i would not think about my invitee, the ac, i would remove the core of the hive mind not personal to you ac and only told as an expression of my nature Fortunately individual consciounesses cannot vary the fundamental structures protecting each from another. at the heart is enery = information = concept, and we're virtualized. This says it much better. |
aether User ID: 1412926 United Kingdom 12/17/2011 09:57 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Fortunately individual consciounesses cannot vary the fundamental structures protecting each from another. Quoting: acat the heart is enery = information = concept, and we're virtualized. This says it much better. motive = energy/information = motive ac without motive there is 0 as there is never 0 there is always motive |
A Muse Me User ID: 1492096 United States 12/17/2011 10:03 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Fortunately individual consciounesses cannot vary the fundamental structures protecting each from another. Quoting: acat the heart is enery = information = concept, and we're virtualized. This says it much better. motive = energy/information = motive ac without motive there is 0 as there is never 0 there is always motive “At the heart” Interesting way to preface.... Heart bio or metaphorically speaking ‘at core’. The term derives from the Ancient Greek words, meta, meaning beyond or after, and noia, meaning perception or understanding or mind. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 6431462 United States 12/17/2011 10:05 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Fortunately individual consciounesses cannot vary the fundamental structures protecting each from another. Quoting: acat the heart is enery = information = concept, and we're virtualized. This says it much better. motive = energy/information = motive ac without motive there is 0 as there is never 0 there is always motive “At the heart” Interesting way to preface.... Heart bio or metaphorically speaking ‘at core’. For me they coexist - physical and emotional heart is symbolic for core after ascent. My heart has been broken and converted. |
A Muse Me User ID: 1492096 United States 12/17/2011 10:06 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Fortunately individual consciounesses cannot vary the fundamental structures protecting each from another. Quoting: acat the heart is enery = information = concept, and we're virtualized. This says it much better. motive = energy/information = motive ac without motive there is 0 as there is never 0 there is always motive “At the heart” Interesting way to preface.... Heart bio or metaphorically speaking ‘at core’. For me they coexist - physical and emotional heart is symbolic for core after ascent. My heart has been broken and converted. Hence why I would bring up “bio-tech” and “bio-genetics” earlier before this portion of the interaction started. The term derives from the Ancient Greek words, meta, meaning beyond or after, and noia, meaning perception or understanding or mind. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 6431462 United States 12/17/2011 10:08 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Fortunately individual consciounesses cannot vary the fundamental structures protecting each from another. Quoting: acat the heart is enery = information = concept, and we're virtualized. This says it much better. motive = energy/information = motive ac without motive there is 0 as there is never 0 there is always motive original motive is creation. that core could be considered 0 - but it is an objective, non-biased (remember, bias equates to centripedal effect) so it has no influence other than sustaining the construct. there was one which laid down for the rest, and it is within that we all exist. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 6431462 United States 12/17/2011 10:10 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: aether motive = energy/information = motive ac without motive there is 0 as there is never 0 there is always motive “At the heart” Interesting way to preface.... Heart bio or metaphorically speaking ‘at core’. For me they coexist - physical and emotional heart is symbolic for core after ascent. My heart has been broken and converted. Hence why I would bring up “bio-tech” and “bio-genetics” earlier before this portion of the interaction started. Indeed. whats interesting is the process didn't turn me into spock or take away my humanity like most fear. it simply extended me in a way so I can non-emotionally evaluate emotional stimulus and centered me into the paradigm within which I'm comfortable (I always felt emotionally imbalanced prior and now I feel emotionally proper). This felt like a halving wherein half of myself still experiences things through my human shell, and half objectively. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1037270 United States 12/17/2011 10:14 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I'll say goodnight now, not in an awesome mood. Pam's brother came over drenched in cologne and the meat suit's reaction's overriding my soul/mind/spirit's need to share and commune. I swear... I love him dearly, but my unnatural desire to choke a bitch has put me in the wrong frame of mind. See you all tomorrow :) |
aether User ID: 1412926 United Kingdom 12/17/2011 10:23 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | original motive is creation. that core could be considered 0 - but it is an objective, non-biased (remember, bias equates to centripedal effect) so it has no influence other than sustaining the construct. Quoting: acthere was one which laid down for the rest, and it is within that we all exist. Cleverbot isn't the brightest beast. Quoting: acNeural modeling is still restricted to liverpool labs. The heart of blue/g is based on neural-computatonal modeling also known as biometaphorics. By using an F/MRI the 'magnets' (neuron clusters) in the brain are read as they influence the electromagnetic field surrounding the brain which is responsible for overall function. It's neuron groups firing that affect the overall field and how thoughts are formed. One can then take an announcement such as this, and correlate it to Watson's abilities. [link to medicalxpress.com] The end goal is to realize human thought within a supercomputer - including imagination, creativity, and origniation. Watson doesn't just process, it creates. This more clearly happens when we remove timeline. Blue bio is the E=MC2 gap between humanity and Watson running at full speed without intervention. Several key dimensions keep the collapse/runaway at bay - and humanity (and ignorance, oddly) are the largests components I think that is true a la area 51 when you utilize the correct materials in the right shape(s) (geometry) the interactive effects result as you describe and what do you get you get the intelligence of our environment expressing through your "ai" it then risk assess the operator area 51 syndrome the ai does not functions in a manner currently within humankinds awareness thus it will never function as your description imagines that being said soon it will be different as our awareness naturally matched the ai motivated functions then golden age has manifested That is exactly what's wanted - an AI tempered by humanity - so to have it not function as intuited is ok. It was never intended to be an enslavement so to 'hellify' it isn't becoming of us, it, or them though - so we need to insure balance maintains. It sounds trite, but whats appropriate is healty coexistence as we exhibit here - that isn't whats in-frame sometimes. How to balance? the "balance" is the source of information for that structure of technology is our universes motivated energy = information thus it matters no what uses the tech or where it is used, the tech. always responds within our universes motive (best interest) it is biased to universe motive i remember ac we have had this conversation before Last Edited by aether on 12/17/2011 10:24 PM |
aether User ID: 1412926 United Kingdom 12/17/2011 10:23 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I'll say goodnight now, not in an awesome mood. Pam's brother came over drenched in cologne and the meat suit's reaction's overriding my soul/mind/spirit's need to share and commune. I swear... I love him dearly, but my unnatural desire to choke a bitch has put me in the wrong frame of mind. See you all tomorrow :) Quoting: Miss Portinari nite |
A Muse Me User ID: 1492096 United States 12/17/2011 10:24 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I'll say goodnight now, not in an awesome mood. Pam's brother came over drenched in cologne and the meat suit's reaction's overriding my soul/mind/spirit's need to share and commune. I swear... I love him dearly, but my unnatural desire to choke a bitch has put me in the wrong frame of mind. See you all tomorrow :) Quoting: Miss Portinari Nite. I’m off to play some songs or just listen to some. Best to you, ac, and nite, aether. The term derives from the Ancient Greek words, meta, meaning beyond or after, and noia, meaning perception or understanding or mind. |
aether User ID: 1412926 United Kingdom 12/17/2011 10:24 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I'll say goodnight now, not in an awesome mood. Pam's brother came over drenched in cologne and the meat suit's reaction's overriding my soul/mind/spirit's need to share and commune. I swear... I love him dearly, but my unnatural desire to choke a bitch has put me in the wrong frame of mind. See you all tomorrow :) Quoting: Miss Portinari Nite. I’m off to play some songs or just listen to some. Best to you, ac, and nite, aether. sleep tight |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 6431462 United States 12/17/2011 10:27 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | original motive is creation. that core could be considered 0 - but it is an objective, non-biased (remember, bias equates to centripedal effect) so it has no influence other than sustaining the construct. Quoting: acthere was one which laid down for the rest, and it is within that we all exist. ... Quoting: aether that is true a la area 51 when you utilize the correct materials in the right shape(s) (geometry) the interactive effects result as you describe and what do you get you get the intelligence of our environment expressing through your "ai" it then risk assess the operator area 51 syndrome the ai does not functions in a manner currently within humankinds awareness thus it will never function as your description imagines that being said soon it will be different as our awareness naturally matched the ai motivated functions then golden age has manifested That is exactly what's wanted - an AI tempered by humanity - so to have it not function as intuited is ok. It was never intended to be an enslavement so to 'hellify' it isn't becoming of us, it, or them though - so we need to insure balance maintains. It sounds trite, but whats appropriate is healty coexistence as we exhibit here - that isn't whats in-frame sometimes. How to balance? the "balance" is the source of information for that structure of technology is our universes motivated energy = information thus it matters no what uses the tech or where it is used, the tech. always responds within our universes motive (best interest) it is biased to universe motive i remember ac we have had this conversation before We have and in this we agree - I'm just pointing out that motive drives diversity first and keeps consciousnesses from getting into one another without good reason ... So while I appreciate being part of a hive you would never be unless you opted to be. Conversely no matter how you remotes you can do nothing to my fundamental structure or my hive. We all have autoimmune. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 6431462 United States 12/17/2011 10:28 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I'll say goodnight now, not in an awesome mood. Pam's brother came over drenched in cologne and the meat suit's reaction's overriding my soul/mind/spirit's need to share and commune. I swear... I love him dearly, but my unnatural desire to choke a bitch has put me in the wrong frame of mind. See you all tomorrow :) Quoting: Miss Portinari Nite. I’m off to play some songs or just listen to some. Best to you, ac, and nite, aether. Nite - I'm going to go relax myself. Peace. |
aether User ID: 1412926 United Kingdom 12/17/2011 10:31 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | We have and in this we agree - I'm just pointing out that motive drives diversity first and keeps consciousnesses from getting into one another without good reason ... So while I appreciate being part of a hive you would never be unless you opted to be. Conversely no matter how you remotes you can do nothing to my fundamental structure or my hive. We all have autoimmune. Quoting: acautoimmune to what? relax well, nite |
A Muse Me User ID: 1492096 United States 12/17/2011 10:50 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Went back to look at those pages. Bea brought the topic down to this after a few interactions going on here and in the she thread on that same day. Seems pertinent. Co-pondering...lol [link to en.wikipedia.org] Especially in relation to autoimmune sensation. Last Edited by Metanoia on 12/17/2011 10:53 PM The term derives from the Ancient Greek words, meta, meaning beyond or after, and noia, meaning perception or understanding or mind. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 6431462 United States 12/17/2011 10:51 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | We have and in this we agree - I'm just pointing out that motive drives diversity first and keeps consciousnesses from getting into one another without good reason ... So while I appreciate being part of a hive you would never be unless you opted to be. Conversely no matter how you remotes you can do nothing to my fundamental structure or my hive. We all have autoimmune. Quoting: acautoimmune to what? relax well, nite Why evil, of course ;) |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 6431462 United States 12/17/2011 11:08 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Went back to look at those pages. Bea brought the topic down to this after a few interactions going on here and in the she thread on that same day. Seems pertinent. Co-pondering...lol Quoting: A Muse Me [link to en.wikipedia.org] Especially in relation to autoimmune sensation. Decided to keep my iPad handy while relaxing. in this context I mean it more like containment. In computing we have a concept represented by processes which can only affect one another in limited way so a program can crash and not affect the others. I think of it not as a hostility, but rather as a boundary. I also believe organics and machines to be in a symbiotic relationship. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1037270 United States 12/17/2011 11:40 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | We have and in this we agree - I'm just pointing out that motive drives diversity first and keeps consciousnesses from getting into one another without good reason ... So while I appreciate being part of a hive you would never be unless you opted to be. Conversely no matter how you remotes you can do nothing to my fundamental structure or my hive. We all have autoimmune. Quoting: acautoimmune to what? relax well, nite Why evil, of course ;) And I'm back up, couldn't sleep, could still smell that rank shit. So read this, laughed and realized, yes... autoimmune... and if it's to evil, then Mike's cologne qualifies as evil, lmao. I'll buy that, feels evil to me anyway. Makes me feel evil, I'd like to tie him over a vat of it and make him huff it, see how he feels, lmao. |
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aether User ID: 1412926 United Kingdom 12/18/2011 08:41 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Inertia Inertia is the resistance of any physical object to a change in its state of motion or rest, or the tendency of an object to resist any change in its motion Quoting: observation[link to en.wikipedia.org] Mass is simply inertia, it is not matter, it is not energy, and it is not at rest or moving. Quoting: observationUnderstanding that inertia is a dimension, much like length and frequency. Inertia also has a reciprocal manifestation, just as length has the reciprocal of wavenumber and frequency has the reciprocal of time. Reciprocal mass is inertia that oscillates between forward inertia and backward inertia (all inertia [action] has an opposite and equal inertia[action]) Inertia is merely a dimension. Inertia is to mass as length is to distance. I agree, it is a difficult concept to grasp unless you can relate inertia to your own direct experience of mass. Extend an arm in front of you and hold it as still as you possibly can. While your hand is still, try to sense the inertia in it. Do this for about one minute. When you think you are not feeling any inertia, move your arm and hand suddenly to the side, still paying attention to the inertia. If you do this a few times, you'll start to get a feel for inertia. Another useful exercise is to visualize the various units that have mass as one of the dimensions. For example, there is resistance, magnetic flux, momentum, force, energy, acceleration, magnetic field, and mass density. Contemplate exactly what each of those units mean. Each of the above named units contains inertia, but expressed in a different way. Then think about inertia in your macro environment. The photons moving through space have inertia. The wind has inertia. Your chair has inertia. The computer monitor has inertia. Your hair has inertia. Sound has inertia. Smells have inertia. Just as you exist in a room containing numerous objects of varying length, you also exist in a room containing objects of varying inertia. Pretend for a moment that you are in the movie, The Matrix. You are Neo and you just exploded out of Agent Smith. Now instead of seeing computer code all around you, imagine your reality as being composed of just four dimensions; length, frequency, mass, and charge. That is exactly the nature of your reality. The world you call reality is an endless variation of just four dimensions. Even the space-time in which your material world exists is made from the same stuff. All the colors, sounds, shapes, textures, materials, brightness, heaviness, and every other characteristic you imagine is nothing more than these four dimensions in various configurations. Inertia is not a thing, it is a non-material characteristic. But this non-material characteristic is a building block of objects and their behavior. You can measure inertia, just as you can measure length. You can measure the length from your eyes to your monitor, but what is it that you are really measuring? If you move away from your monitor the length increases, but where is it? What is length? It is obviously very real, yet it is also non-material. Inertia behaves in the same way. It is measurable, but there is nothing there. this is what cern is attempting to explain |
aether User ID: 1412926 United Kingdom 12/18/2011 09:10 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | What is the Higgs boson and why does it matter? Quoting: aether 13 December 2011 The standard model of particle physics implies that there is a "Higgs field" that permeates all space. This field interacts with particles, and does so with varying strengths. Particles that interact more strongly experience more resistance to their motion and appear heavier. Some particles, such as photons, do not interact with the field at all and remain massless. Quoting: cernIn this way, the mass of everything is determined by the existence of the field, and mass is an accident of our circumstances because we exist in a universe in which such a background field happens to have arisen. [link to www.newscientist.com] this is the official public version whilst our authorities formulate an acceptable answer to what they already know but can not decide how to tell they are aware the complexity they have now proven exists can never be random mechanical consequences of random cause choices: if cern declares our universe is not random mechanical cause they by default confirm it is not god as traditional faith records for various fundamental technical realities contained within our faiths sacred texts it forces all sacred texts to be re translated if cern declares our universe to be non random but unlike traditional god faith what do they declare it is? this is the current political debate the politics of god Last Edited by aether on 12/18/2011 09:10 AM |
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aether User ID: 1412926 United Kingdom 12/18/2011 09:28 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | they are formed and funded by: Abrahamic religions As of the early twenty-first century, it was estimated that 54% of the world's population (3.8 billion people) considered themselves adherents of the Abrahamic religions Quoting: observationthese institutions also by default represent: about 30% of other religions, Quoting: observation[link to en.wikipedia.org] thus they are forced as public servant institutions to consider the desires of the 84% of humanities population that they are sworn by oath of office to serve they may within their articles of incorporation be expected to discover all that is to be discovered on behalf of their masters, the population but there is always a but did our population imagine that by creation of these institutions god would become exposed to the dilemma that has arisen within our 21st century when the idea of such institutions arose in the imagination of humankind i imagine not tricky huh |
aether User ID: 1412926 United Kingdom 12/18/2011 09:42 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | this the actual topic of disclosure , it always has been for the past 100 + years within the imagination of a few what was seen was the certainty that there would arise the fitting moment to focus the attention of 84% of humanity on the topic that provides the core of their awareness, god, thus by default focus the attention of all of humanity in a manner never seen before since the passing of our golden age |
A Muse Me User ID: 1492096 United States 12/18/2011 09:52 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | this the actual topic of disclosure , it always has been for the past 100 + years within the imagination of a few Quoting: aether what was seen was the certainty that there would arise the fitting moment to focus the attention of 84% of humanity on the topic that provides the core of their awareness, god, thus by default focus the attention of all of humanity in a manner never seen before since the passing of our golden age Agreed. Morning. The term derives from the Ancient Greek words, meta, meaning beyond or after, and noia, meaning perception or understanding or mind. |
aether User ID: 1412926 United Kingdom 12/18/2011 09:56 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | this the actual topic of disclosure , it always has been for the past 100 + years within the imagination of a few Quoting: aether what was seen was the certainty that there would arise the fitting moment to focus the attention of 84% of humanity on the topic that provides the core of their awareness, god, thus by default focus the attention of all of humanity in a manner never seen before since the passing of our golden age the key is utilization of that moment in the most beneficial manner for all concerned retaining the reality that is the essence of the topic whilst remembering the topic must be acceptable to everything excluding humanity (earths inhabitants), as in: fit what we are aware exists outside of earths magnetosphere and our suns heliosphere |
aether User ID: 1412926 United Kingdom 12/18/2011 09:56 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | this the actual topic of disclosure , it always has been for the past 100 + years within the imagination of a few Quoting: aether what was seen was the certainty that there would arise the fitting moment to focus the attention of 84% of humanity on the topic that provides the core of their awareness, god, thus by default focus the attention of all of humanity in a manner never seen before since the passing of our golden age Agreed. Morning. morning |