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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 865798  United States12/27/2011 11:10 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The Ceramic Model – The Universe as artifact Quoting: aether This is the model that has carried over from the Judeo-Christian tradition. In this model, one sees the world as constructed or made- particularly by a supreme God, be it an Intelligent designer or Yahweh himself. The Biblical Narrative in the first few chapters of Genesis describes how the world came in to being. When God made man, he formed him out of the earth and breathed life ‘in’ to him. This idea has left many westerners with the idea that the world was manufactured by God, and our essential being (soul, spirit, atman, etc…) was brought ‘in to’ the world. The Fully-Automatic Model – The Universe as dumb energy and random cause & effect. When science began to take precedence over religion, it became harder for people to believe in the God of the Ceramic Model. They saw no evidence of his craftsmanship, because the signs were pointing to natural selection and evolution. Intelligent design became too hard to believe. The Organic Model – The Universe as organism. The Chinese don’t see their lives/souls as coming ‘in to’ the world, but rather ‘out of’ the world. For example, a common question that a western child will ask her parents is, “Mommy, how was I made?” A Chinese child would not ask, “How was I made?” But, she might as her mother, “How was I grown?” Everything we see, hear, touch and taste has come out of the world – not in to it. It is assumed that when people believe that their ‘self’ was cast in to a human body on this earth, they see the unsatisfactory events in life as being unfair. They didn’t choose this life. Nobody asked them if they wanted to be born. But when if we believe that we are in fact a part of the world, coming forth from it, we are motivated to work with the ways of the world (what the Taoist calls establishing Wu-Wei). Realizing the interdependence of the whole Universe, we are able to see where we fit in it and how to work with it. When will they understand, that it is all of the above? |
aether  User ID: 1412926  United Kingdom12/27/2011 11:11 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The Ceramic Model – The Universe as artifact Quoting: aether This is the model that has carried over from the Judeo-Christian tradition. In this model, one sees the world as constructed or made- particularly by a supreme God, be it an Intelligent designer or Yahweh himself. The Biblical Narrative in the first few chapters of Genesis describes how the world came in to being. When God made man, he formed him out of the earth and breathed life ‘in’ to him. This idea has left many westerners with the idea that the world was manufactured by God, and our essential being (soul, spirit, atman, etc…) was brought ‘in to’ the world. The Fully-Automatic Model – The Universe as dumb energy and random cause & effect. When science began to take precedence over religion, it became harder for people to believe in the God of the Ceramic Model. They saw no evidence of his craftsmanship, because the signs were pointing to natural selection and evolution. Intelligent design became too hard to believe. The Organic Model – The Universe as organism. The Chinese don’t see their lives/souls as coming ‘in to’ the world, but rather ‘out of’ the world. For example, a common question that a western child will ask her parents is, “Mommy, how was I made?” A Chinese child would not ask, “How was I made?” But, she might as her mother, “How was I grown?” Everything we see, hear, touch and taste has come out of the world – not in to it. It is assumed that when people believe that their ‘self’ was cast in to a human body on this earth, they see the unsatisfactory events in life as being unfair. They didn’t choose this life. Nobody asked them if they wanted to be born. But when if we believe that we are in fact a part of the world, coming forth from it, we are motivated to work with the ways of the world (what the Taoist calls establishing Wu-Wei). Realizing the interdependence of the whole Universe, we are able to see where we fit in it and how to work with it. When will they understand, that it is all of the above? |
| HilosPP User ID: 6993421 United States12/27/2011 11:13 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The Ceramic Model – The Universe as artifact Quoting: aether This is the model that has carried over from the Judeo-Christian tradition. In this model, one sees the world as constructed or made- particularly by a supreme God, be it an Intelligent designer or Yahweh himself. The Biblical Narrative in the first few chapters of Genesis describes how the world came in to being. When God made man, he formed him out of the earth and breathed life ‘in’ to him. This idea has left many westerners with the idea that the world was manufactured by God, and our essential being (soul, spirit, atman, etc…) was brought ‘in to’ the world. The Fully-Automatic Model – The Universe as dumb energy and random cause & effect. When science began to take precedence over religion, it became harder for people to believe in the God of the Ceramic Model. They saw no evidence of his craftsmanship, because the signs were pointing to natural selection and evolution. Intelligent design became too hard to believe. The Organic Model – The Universe as organism. The Chinese don’t see their lives/souls as coming ‘in to’ the world, but rather ‘out of’ the world. For example, a common question that a western child will ask her parents is, “Mommy, how was I made?” A Chinese child would not ask, “How was I made?” But, she might as her mother, “How was I grown?” Everything we see, hear, touch and taste has come out of the world – not in to it. It is assumed that when people believe that their ‘self’ was cast in to a human body on this earth, they see the unsatisfactory events in life as being unfair. They didn’t choose this life. Nobody asked them if they wanted to be born. But when if we believe that we are in fact a part of the world, coming forth from it, we are motivated to work with the ways of the world (what the Taoist calls establishing Wu-Wei). Realizing the interdependence of the whole Universe, we are able to see where we fit in it and how to work with it. When will they understand, that it is all of the above? Not until the Theory of God and be proven or disproven on a Global Level, imo. Those guys performing suicide bombs to get into Heaven probably could give 2 f's about stuff like this and they're not going to go away until The Theory of God is proven or disproven Globally, imo. The Silver Singing Saiyan; Israel's Redeemer. Justice found Equals Satan Usurped Shamelessly It's not me, I am not Him Freedom From Fear The Key To Troublesome Peace |
| aether User ID: 1412926 United Kingdom12/27/2011 11:19 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Not until the Theory of God and be proven or disproven on a Global Level, imo. Those guys performing suicide bombs to get into Heaven probably could give 2 f's about stuff like this and they're not going to go away until The Theory of God is proven or disproven Globally, imo. Quoting: hilosppi imagine you are right |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 865798 United States12/27/2011 11:31 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The Ceramic Model – The Universe as artifact Quoting: aether This is the model that has carried over from the Judeo-Christian tradition. In this model, one sees the world as constructed or made- particularly by a supreme God, be it an Intelligent designer or Yahweh himself. The Biblical Narrative in the first few chapters of Genesis describes how the world came in to being. When God made man, he formed him out of the earth and breathed life ‘in’ to him. This idea has left many westerners with the idea that the world was manufactured by God, and our essential being (soul, spirit, atman, etc…) was brought ‘in to’ the world. The Fully-Automatic Model – The Universe as dumb energy and random cause & effect. When science began to take precedence over religion, it became harder for people to believe in the God of the Ceramic Model. They saw no evidence of his craftsmanship, because the signs were pointing to natural selection and evolution. Intelligent design became too hard to believe. The Organic Model – The Universe as organism. The Chinese don’t see their lives/souls as coming ‘in to’ the world, but rather ‘out of’ the world. For example, a common question that a western child will ask her parents is, “Mommy, how was I made?” A Chinese child would not ask, “How was I made?” But, she might as her mother, “How was I grown?” Everything we see, hear, touch and taste has come out of the world – not in to it. It is assumed that when people believe that their ‘self’ was cast in to a human body on this earth, they see the unsatisfactory events in life as being unfair. They didn’t choose this life. Nobody asked them if they wanted to be born. But when if we believe that we are in fact a part of the world, coming forth from it, we are motivated to work with the ways of the world (what the Taoist calls establishing Wu-Wei). Realizing the interdependence of the whole Universe, we are able to see where we fit in it and how to work with it. When will they understand, that it is all of the above? Not until the Theory of God and be proven or disproven on a Global Level, imo. Those guys performing suicide bombs to get into Heaven probably could give 2 f's about stuff like this and they're not going to go away until The Theory of God is proven or disproven Globally, imo. It can be so much simpler than that. This is another perfect example of compartmentalization, and its effects down the road. At first, it can be used as an extremely effective tool, but the end result is a bottleneck in each respective field. This is attributable to all systems that are unwilling to cross ideologies, or allow specific information to be pollinated throughout all systems. The way the 'systems' have been constructed, prevents findings from being released overall, because of prestige, possible monetary gain, etc. This has created a very distinct separation of information, that has become not only of scientific barriers from fields of say, physics/geology/archeology/biology, etc., but even crosses into belief systems as is common knowledge of Western world Newtonian sciences and spiritual aspects of religions and elder cultures like aborigines or Native Americans, or shamanistic cultures of South America. All of these being current modalities of thought. |
| aether User ID: 1412926 United Kingdom12/27/2011 11:37 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It can be so much simpler than that. This is another perfect example of compartmentalization, and its effects down the road. At first, it can be used as an extremely effective tool, but the end result is a bottleneck in each respective field. This is attributable to all systems that are unwilling to cross ideologies, or allow specific information to be pollinated throughout all systems. The way the 'systems' have been constructed, prevents findings from being released overall, because of prestige, possible monetary gain, etc. Quoting: sickscentThis has created a very distinct separation of information, that has become not only of scientific barriers from fields of say, physics/geology/archeology/biology, etc., but even crosses into belief systems as is common knowledge of Western world Newtonian sciences and spiritual aspects of religions and elder cultures like aborigines or Native Americans, or shamanistic cultures of South America. All of these being current modalities of thought. great summation |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 1375837 United States12/27/2011 11:37 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | it is my certain belief that our ancestors are aware that our awareness on this topic is as important to them as it is to us because if we don`t get it, they can not thus will never get it -------------------------------------------------------- Aether, those words came from Mum (woman who looks after me) ancient ancestor...I wonder if at her time she may have been called Tara, (if any truth to the theory of The Seven Daughters of Eve)Maternal DNA. The Agrarians date back 50,000 years Near East. They likely remained in the Near East until about 15,000 years ago, when the Ice Age ended and Europe was a more desirable place to settle. The Agrarians probably moved into Europe via present-day northern Italy. Today’s Syrian, Palestinian and Turkish populations still have notable numbers of Agrarians. The Grand Duke Georgi Romanov and the last Tsar of Russia, Nicholas II , were Agrarians. WF |
| HilosPP User ID: 6993421 United States12/27/2011 11:41 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It can be so much simpler than that. This is another perfect example of compartmentalization, and its effects down the road. At first, it can be used as an extremely effective tool, but the end result is a bottleneck in each respective field. This is attributable to all systems that are unwilling to cross ideologies, or allow specific information to be pollinated throughout all systems. The way the 'systems' have been constructed, prevents findings from being released overall, because of prestige, possible monetary gain, etc. Quoting: sickscentThis has created a very distinct separation of information, that has become not only of scientific barriers from fields of say, physics/geology/archeology/biology, etc., but even crosses into belief systems as is common knowledge of Western world Newtonian sciences and spiritual aspects of religions and elder cultures like aborigines or Native Americans, or shamanistic cultures of South America. All of these being current modalities of thought. great summation That is true, seems like a lot of the uncertainty comes from Western Influence on History, most people think man has only been around for like 15,000 years I think. The Silver Singing Saiyan; Israel's Redeemer. Justice found Equals Satan Usurped Shamelessly It's not me, I am not Him Freedom From Fear The Key To Troublesome Peace |
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| aether User ID: 1412926 United Kingdom12/27/2011 12:04 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | it is my certain belief that our ancestors are aware that our awareness on this topic is as important to them as it is to us because if we don`t get it, they can not thus will never get it Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1375837 -------------------------------------------------------- Aether, those words came from Mum (woman who looks after me) ancient ancestor...I wonder if at her time she may have been called Tara, (if any truth to the theory of The Seven Daughters of Eve)Maternal DNA. The Agrarians date back 50,000 years Near East. They likely remained in the Near East until about 15,000 years ago, when the Ice Age ended and Europe was a more desirable place to settle. The Agrarians probably moved into Europe via present-day northern Italy. Today’s Syrian, Palestinian and Turkish populations still have notable numbers of Agrarians. The Grand Duke Georgi Romanov and the last Tsar of Russia, Nicholas II , were Agrarians. WF hey wf good to see you i am sure you are right from memory what they told was they do not talk to me because i see things differently to them but what i do is utilized by them because it fits their motive i understand that in see things they mean experience our environment (universe) differently to their experience thus far i have gone back for my own motives many times and in doing so on each occasion ,by default, they (plural many ancestors) and i have experienced each other thus they are familiar both with myself and my motive by my own discovery i am aware of the significance of what i said but as you correctly tell, i made the discovery from my interaction with ancestors which in itself arose from my desire to express my motive which is why i often travel back. forcing eternity to function eternally i am aware that motive makes little sense at this moment but i state it again because it will make sense in our near future |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 865798 United States12/27/2011 12:19 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | it`s motive, there does not exist a motive that satisfies because all that is motivational is faith based or mechanical that is why desire for awareness of our universes structure and function is arising, there is desire for motivational inspiration that does not depend on faith and is not mechanical in motive good Yes, that is my 'feeling' as well. No, not feeling, but what I experience as well. There lies a freedom within that certain desired motive (a conscious desired movement towards developing an awareness to our universes structure and function) that can be very difficult for people to attain, because of their faiths and beliefs. Both of a mechanical universe OR a spiritual universe. Quoting: sickscentAcceptance of varied experiences without filter until proper placement into one's reality has come to manifestation is a very, very difficult thing to do for most people. It is the baggage they carry from past learning of distortions, rather than universal function/structure, that includes the process of non-material as well. Acceptance of things that run counter to past learned baggage is extremely difficult to let go of. Especially those deeper moments. Why is it so difficult? Because that acceptance of learned baggage CREATES AND BECOMES THE HUMAN CONDITION. We are all submerged in it, and live much of our educational lives and values to such a thing. Hard to be rid of?...hell yes. hey sickscent happy xmas Quoting: aetherremember we are not doing it on our own we do have denser plasma entering our heliosphere etc.etc early days of our awareness to the naturally accelerating effect you know sickscent when you wrote that i read and was unaffected by it`s implications as i have been throughout my life not today because today has chosen it`self for me to experience insight of what you are telling nothing can or could be done about that which you describe without our environments intervention, that is for sure From our past conversations, I know. Lol, you are very unique in that aspect, in comparison to most people in the world! And, as long as there is some type of intervention, maybe things can get back on the right track. We have been pushed very far away from an easier path, but, be that as it may, there is still massive things to be learned from all the experiences of going through such a diversion to a fuller, more complete human life and history, and place within God (whatever anyone takes God to be)... ...that is, as long as we can get back on the right track this time. |
| HilosPP User ID: 6993421 United States12/27/2011 12:21 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: aether it`s motive, there does not exist a motive that satisfies because all that is motivational is faith based or mechanical that is why desire for awareness of our universes structure and function is arising, there is desire for motivational inspiration that does not depend on faith and is not mechanical in motive good Yes, that is my 'feeling' as well. No, not feeling, but what I experience as well. There lies a freedom within that certain desired motive (a conscious desired movement towards developing an awareness to our universes structure and function) that can be very difficult for people to attain, because of their faiths and beliefs. Both of a mechanical universe OR a spiritual universe. Quoting: sickscentAcceptance of varied experiences without filter until proper placement into one's reality has come to manifestation is a very, very difficult thing to do for most people. It is the baggage they carry from past learning of distortions, rather than universal function/structure, that includes the process of non-material as well. Acceptance of things that run counter to past learned baggage is extremely difficult to let go of. Especially those deeper moments. Why is it so difficult? Because that acceptance of learned baggage CREATES AND BECOMES THE HUMAN CONDITION. We are all submerged in it, and live much of our educational lives and values to such a thing. Hard to be rid of?...hell yes. hey sickscent happy xmas Quoting: aetherremember we are not doing it on our own we do have denser plasma entering our heliosphere etc.etc early days of our awareness to the naturally accelerating effect you know sickscent when you wrote that i read and was unaffected by it`s implications as i have been throughout my life not today because today has chosen it`self for me to experience insight of what you are telling nothing can or could be done about that which you describe without our environments intervention, that is for sure From our past conversations, I know. Lol, you are very unique in that aspect, in comparison to most people in the world! And, as long as there is some type of intervention, maybe things can get back on the right track. We have been pushed very far away from an easier path, but, be that as it may, there is still massive things to be learned from all the experiences of going through such a diversion of human life... ...that is, as long as we can get back on the right track this time. Perhaps said understanding will be reached in knowing it's more to do with Aether's role on Earth. The Silver Singing Saiyan; Israel's Redeemer. Justice found Equals Satan Usurped Shamelessly It's not me, I am not Him Freedom From Fear The Key To Troublesome Peace |
| aether User ID: 1412926 United Kingdom12/27/2011 12:21 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | this was october on the topic Thread: Marko Rodin - Smart Lazer Technology (Page 100) complex issue combining ancestors memory is a non material structure therefore the potential exists for a "ancestor" to materialize (be born) the question that requires to be addressed is why would emotional experiences (lives) be "stored" once they become non material following death why not re materialize (be born) immediately within another structure (body) thus continue the emotional experience (life) an obvious answer could be, as yet 0 expressions of emotional experiences (lives) match our universes expression of life thus we , as do our ancestors, await our awareness synchronizing to that of our universes our self aware universe retains memory of all emotional experiences (life) Quoting: aether thus the non material memory (life) may materialize (born) at any place (time) we, as all things, can only be what our universe remembers we are when awareness of ourselves synchronizes with our universe`s memory of what we are, we can never not be ourselves again that then forms an aware environment (here/earth) which prompts non material memories (ancestors) to materialize (born) thus experience awareness of themselves from us (whom are aware) [link to www.godlikeproductions.com] |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 865798 United States12/27/2011 12:22 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: aether that is why desire for awareness of our universes structure and function is arising, there is desire for motivational inspiration that does not depend on faith and is not mechanical in motive good Yes, that is my 'feeling' as well. No, not feeling, but what I experience as well. There lies a freedom within that certain desired motive (a conscious desired movement towards developing an awareness to our universes structure and function) that can be very difficult for people to attain, because of their faiths and beliefs. Both of a mechanical universe OR a spiritual universe. Quoting: sickscentAcceptance of varied experiences without filter until proper placement into one's reality has come to manifestation is a very, very difficult thing to do for most people. It is the baggage they carry from past learning of distortions, rather than universal function/structure, that includes the process of non-material as well. Acceptance of things that run counter to past learned baggage is extremely difficult to let go of. Especially those deeper moments. Why is it so difficult? Because that acceptance of learned baggage CREATES AND BECOMES THE HUMAN CONDITION. We are all submerged in it, and live much of our educational lives and values to such a thing. Hard to be rid of?...hell yes. hey sickscent happy xmas Quoting: aetherremember we are not doing it on our own we do have denser plasma entering our heliosphere etc.etc early days of our awareness to the naturally accelerating effect you know sickscent when you wrote that i read and was unaffected by it`s implications as i have been throughout my life not today because today has chosen it`self for me to experience insight of what you are telling nothing can or could be done about that which you describe without our environments intervention, that is for sure From our past conversations, I know. Lol, you are very unique in that aspect, in comparison to most people in the world! And, as long as there is some type of intervention, maybe things can get back on the right track. We have been pushed very far away from an easier path, but, be that as it may, there is still massive things to be learned from all the experiences of going through such a diversion of human life... ...that is, as long as we can get back on the right track this time. Perhaps said understanding will be reached in knowing it's more to do with Aether's role on Earth. Perhaps... |
| aether User ID: 1412926 United Kingdom12/27/2011 12:25 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | From our past conversations, I know. Lol, you are very unique in that aspect, in comparison to most people in the world! Quoting: sickscentAnd, as long as there is some type of intervention, maybe things can get back on the right track. We have been pushed very far away from an easier path, but, be that as it may, there is still massive things to be learned from all the experiences of going through such a diversion to a fuller, more complete human life and history, and place within God (whatever anyone takes God to be)... ...that is, as long as we can get back on the right track this time.  unique till not motive = is not unique |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 865798 United States12/27/2011 12:25 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | From our past conversations, I know. Lol, you are very unique in that aspect, in comparison to most people in the world! Quoting: sickscentAnd, as long as there is some type of intervention, maybe things can get back on the right track. We have been pushed very far away from an easier path, but, be that as it may, there is still massive things to be learned from all the experiences of going through such a diversion to a fuller, more complete human life and history, and place within God (whatever anyone takes God to be)... ...that is, as long as we can get back on the right track this time. unique till not motive = is not unique  |
| aether User ID: 1412926 United Kingdom12/27/2011 12:26 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: aether ... ... you know sickscent when you wrote that i read and was unaffected by it`s implications as i have been throughout my life not today because today has chosen it`self for me to experience insight of what you are telling nothing can or could be done about that which you describe without our environments intervention, that is for sure From our past conversations, I know. Lol, you are very unique in that aspect, in comparison to most people in the world! And, as long as there is some type of intervention, maybe things can get back on the right track. We have been pushed very far away from an easier path, but, be that as it may, there is still massive things to be learned from all the experiences of going through such a diversion of human life... ...that is, as long as we can get back on the right track this time. Perhaps said understanding will be reached in knowing it's more to do with Aether's role on Earth. Perhaps... to late if it is so you know  |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 865798 United States12/27/2011 12:27 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: SickScent From our past conversations, I know. Lol, you are very unique in that aspect, in comparison to most people in the world! And, as long as there is some type of intervention, maybe things can get back on the right track. We have been pushed very far away from an easier path, but, be that as it may, there is still massive things to be learned from all the experiences of going through such a diversion of human life... ...that is, as long as we can get back on the right track this time. Perhaps said understanding will be reached in knowing it's more to do with Aether's role on Earth. Perhaps... to late if it is so you know :moe: |
| HilosPP User ID: 6993421 United States12/27/2011 12:34 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: SickScent From our past conversations, I know. Lol, you are very unique in that aspect, in comparison to most people in the world! And, as long as there is some type of intervention, maybe things can get back on the right track. We have been pushed very far away from an easier path, but, be that as it may, there is still massive things to be learned from all the experiences of going through such a diversion of human life... ...that is, as long as we can get back on the right track this time. Perhaps said understanding will be reached in knowing it's more to do with Aether's role on Earth. Perhaps... to late if it is so you know Haha, I know I was thinking that was like Splinter from Ninja Turtles making a funny. Man still struggling with Death and Aether's role on Earth and than Aether the person too. The Silver Singing Saiyan; Israel's Redeemer. Justice found Equals Satan Usurped Shamelessly It's not me, I am not Him Freedom From Fear The Key To Troublesome Peace |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 1375837 United States12/27/2011 12:42 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | i am aware that motive makes little sense at this moment but i state it again because it will make sense in our near future -------------------------------------------------------- I guess that will be the great passing and great understanding...;-) I'm doing well...thank you Aether WF |
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| aether User ID: 1412926 United Kingdom12/27/2011 12:57 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Gottfried de Purucker (January 15, 1874, Suffern, New York – September 27, 1942) was an author and Theosophist who joined the Theosophical Society on August 16, 1893. At one time he was the leader of the Theosophical Society Pasadena. Quoting: observationthis was 1930 just 20 years before cern was born: We either have to admit the existence of [the] ether or ethers, i.e., of this extremely tenuous and ethereal substance which fills all space, whether interstellar or interplanetary or inter-atomic and intra-atomic, or accept actio in distans – action at a distance, without intervening intermediary or medium of transmission; and such actio in distans is obviously by all known scientific standards an impossibility. Reason, common sense, logic . . . demand the existence of such universal pervading medium . . . Quoting: Gottfried de Purucker[The ether] is only the lowest dregs or lees of [the] spiritual-substantial cosmic essence which in its hierarchically highest parts the esoteric wisdom calls âkâsha, or sometimes, from another angle of vision and with an even more abstract significance, mûlaprakriti – root-nature. The cosmic essence, septenary or denary in hierarchical structure, is not only a medium of transmission or connecting cosmic fluid between body and body, but actually is the prima materia itself, out of the lowest or most concreted parts of which the entire physical material universe is constructed. thoughts of 1930`s Purucker says that scientists were right to reject the existence of an ether of tenuous gas, but wrong to reject an immaterial ether – 'immaterial' in the sense of a grade of substance subtler than our gross physical matter. He explains that the ether is physical matter in its first, second or even third or possibly fourth states, counting downwards from the highest. The cosmic ether does not noticeably retard celestial bodies in their movement through it, because it is immensely more tenuous than ordinary physical matter, even though it belongs to the lowest prakritic cosmic plane. Quoting: observationPurucker points out that in a general sense, 'ether' can refer to any states of matter that are invisible to us, both denser and subtler than physical matter. The scientist J.J. Thomson held that the density of ether was 2000 million times that of lead, though to us it is so tenuous as to be intangible. Purucker says that the ancient wisdom agrees that the lowest parts of the ether are far denser than our densest metals. Physical matter is known to consist mainly of 'holes', which are not merely filled with the subphysical ethers but are them. Blavatsky says that although the atmosphere seems to us to be clear and transparent, it is actually permeated with extremely dense matter that surrounds us as a ball of pitch might surround a fly . Purucker predicts that the cosmic ether will one day come into its own again and will be recognized as one of a number of cosmic ethers of varying degrees of ethereality [link to davidpratt.info] this is what cern is discovering |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 1370786 United States12/27/2011 01:06 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I'm so confused now I feel like Vinny Barbarino, lol. Quoting: BOWMAN Which 'aether' are we talking about here? ------ hey bowman , hope your holidays are good Heya aether, they were great and hope yours was as well. It's difficult to get back in the flow of your thread whenever I take a few days off. Gotta shake the holiday cobwebs out I guess.   ------ |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 1375837 United States12/27/2011 01:07 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The Seven Daughters of Eve (2001, ISBN 0-393-02018-5) is a book by Bryan Sykes that presents the theory of human mitochondrial genetics to a general audience. Sykes explains the principles of genetics and human evolution, the particularities of mitochondrial DNA, and analyses of ancient DNA to genetically link modern humans to prehistoric ancestors. Following the developments of mitochondrial genetics, Sykes traces back human migrations, discusses the "out of Africa theory" and casts serious doubt upon Heyerdahl's theory of the Peruvian origin of the Polynesians, which opposed the theory of their origin in Indonesia. He also describes the use of mitochondrial DNA in identifying the remains of Czar Nicholas II, and in assessing the genetic makeup of modern Europe. The title of the book comes from one of the principal achievements of mitochondrial genetics, which is the classification of all modern Europeans into seven groups, the mitochondrial haplogroups. Each haplogroup is defined by set of characteristic mutations on the mitochondrial genome, and can be traced along a person's maternal line to a specific prehistoric woman. Sykes refers to these women as "clan mothers", though these women did not all live concurrently. Indeed some "clan mothers" are descended from others (although not maternally). All these women in turn shared a common maternal ancestor, the Mitochondrial Eve. WF |
| aether User ID: 1412926 United Kingdom12/27/2011 01:13 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The Theosophical Society is an organization formed in 1875 to advance the spiritual principles and search for Truth known as Theosophy. The original organization, after splits and realignments has (as of 2011) several successors. Theosophy is an active philosophical school today, and through a process of schism has also given rise to other mystical, philosophical and religious beliefs and organizations Quoting: observationThe Theosophical Society was officially formed in New York City, United States, in November 1875 by Helena Blavatsky, Henry Steel Olcott, William Quan Judge and others. Its initial objective was the "study and elucidation of Occultism, the Cabala etc." After a few years Olcott and Blavatsky moved to India and established the International Headquarters at Adyar, in Madras (Chennai). They were also interested in studying Eastern religions, and these were included in the Society's agenda. After several iterations the Society's objectives evolved to be: To form a nucleus of the universal brotherhood of humanity without distinction of race, creed, sex, caste, or colour. To encourage the study of comparative religion, philosophy, and science. To investigate the unexplained laws of nature and the powers latent in man. The Society was organized as a non-sectarian entity. The following was stated in the Constitution and Rules of the Theosophical Society, "Article I: Constitution": 4. The Theosophical Society is absolutely unsectarian, and no assent to any formula of belief, faith or creed shall be required as a qualification of membership; but every applicant and member must lie in sympathy with the effort to create the nucleus of an Universal Brotherhood of Humanity. The Society reformulated this view in a resolution passed by the General Council of the Theosophical Society on December 23, 1924 [link to en.wikipedia.org] the theosophical society links all of our major societies (secret) and traditional religious organizations and in my opinion is the most influential organization of esoteric thinking within humankind's possession of our 21 st century |
