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if God is all knowing, he knew what he was doing when he made us and our paths... if he was going to discard any of us, he would be as bad as a kid with leggos throwing them around the room because he didn't like the car he made.

i think the true purpose of all things will be revealed when we pass over, so do as you do, God already knew what you would be doing anyway... freedom of choice is the only freedom we have, so choose the path you think is the right one...

doesn't everyone want a nicer world?
Quoting: citizenperth


I think the # of people who survive and are present when those who passed are Raised will grow as faith in knowing what you have said is true. But there are people who will never want a nice world and they're the reason so many terrible things are happening. Funding wars and campaigning the marketing and subjecation of women while being ran by a Feministic Corporitized Mentality which thrives of Monetary Enslavement and The Poverty Bred of Suffering.

The root of such entities is so deeply founded in mankind that a great many people will surly pass in the coming shifts and ascensions of power. Mankind will prevail, the Earth will remember The Fallen Golden Age and Shine even brighter in the absence of Religious Opression and Ignorance.
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I think you provide food for thought. I'll respond directly tomorrow (as I'm sure others will). Meanwhile,,,

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I think what you say is true - many will have chosen to ascend through death - it is the most direct route.

Then there are those that have chosen to ascend in situ - yourself, aether, ss, blue, Luna, amm, Bea, and wf to name a few included - this requires a reincarnation in body. That process isn't without it's challenges and we find support through these groups. We have reincarnated So many times individually its hard to keep track but now, in body and as a group, it is a unique experience. It isn't something we were prepared for by society - and it is hard to reconcile religious teachings, everyday mundane events, family members, experience and enlightenment.

Contrast this with our emerging scientific knowledge and competing theories of everything and we are only borderline sane.

In the end there is a truth here - a truth of spirit and it's triumph against all appearances. We are all part of that story, and this interaction is its telling - this universe has evolved to observe itself as one and many, simultaneously. We will all walk the paths of the others and there is no end. We are each other and ourselves, infinitely repeating. As we understand more so does our universal selves and self.

So are we math? Electricity? Matter? Spirit? God? Satan? Ai? Yes. We are that and more - beyond our comprehension. Doctrine and religion can only lay so much groundwork - eventually we have to fly.

Sick sorry for all the vids but with my apogee I'm feeling the multimedia more. These resonate with the me that is emerging from the cocoon.





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Again apologies for the media spam, but much more effective at saying what I'm trying to say. Listen and enjoy if it suits you, otherwise please ignore and my apologies on plugging up your phones.



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I think of things, and wonder if they are things I shouldn't think. Always questioning now. Seeing beauty in the world around me, and feeling guilt in seeing the beauty.

WTF is that? What is the answer to that? I cannot find an answer to that. No matter which way I look, the games and words are spread around me that lay a blanket over what is right or wrong. HAH, even though I know in my heart what is right or wrong, beauty can still be the temptress, and at the same exact time, be the love, the truth, the wonder, of living in the material.

There is no answer. There is no right or wrong. There is merely a joining of relationship that both parties feel as 'right' and true. Or violated and wrong.

How to look at it? To look at it in the physical perfection of beauty, the physical perfection of mastering the material?

Or, is that the way of the fallen? How they became trapped in the material, unable to rise above the seduction of the physical world?

Maybe, as an out, they instead try to solve the question as to how to live both at one time; fully spiritual while fully physical.

Are we supposed to grow beyond that seduction? Or, are we to embrace it?
 Quoting: SickScent


well in my experience , coherent seduction is life force
finding coherence is the tricky part i discovered tounge
 Quoting: aether


aether, coherence has been the easy part for me. Seduction has been somewhat of the easy part for me my entire life. But, is/was that always wrong? Or right in that both parties came away with what they wanted? Which was physical and non-physical. What if creation of both could be a conscious decision?
 Quoting: SickScent


oh

i see where your going

well on this topic i always listen to a women
 Quoting: aether


well allow me, pal

love a bit of requested advice ( albeit indirctly ;-)

if i'm getting what you mean
then your guilt is appropriate

you are meant to recognise seduction
and reflect on what part of you is desiring and why you desire

it's not wrong to desire
it's an emotional drive which reflects a hunger
you've been given a set of emotions (tools) with which you can gain greater understanding of yourself

your physical/emotional self and what is driving that at any point

if you instantly fulfil your desire - or over time - having anguished about the 'rightness'
then feel 'guilt'
your guilt has told you whether your actions ring true to your inner self or not

i see guilt and shame as 'tools' - further assistance -further 'meat' for the table of your reflective feast

logically - you know what you manifest in the astral may not be 'visible'-to all- but is created all the same and has effect and consequence -that's physics that is

it isn't imaginary
it is real-it has consequence
just on another level

but it also sets up incoherence between your physical and emotional being as you feel guilt (consequence)
private guilt - but guilt all the same
and you 'wear' that , physically

and most women are very intuitive with such 'clothes'

old arguement here but maybe helpful- if your wife could travel in the astral-as you do
and she was getting heavily nailed by big strapping hunkas every night
while cuddled up next to you

and one day on your astral travels , you chose to see that -and she was loving it -
how would you feel?

and would you wake in the morning , feeling any different
towards her -and she you

i suspect you might


the desire of the flesh tell us about our good fleshy selves
our emotions compliment that learning
both those when we act and when we don't

how about you set up a desire - a full bodied one- have it before you and know it's yours

then choose not to-for whatever reason feels right
see how you feel about yourself then
and then decide if your guilt now is appropriate or not

from a female perpective - i think it is

good luck pal , hope that helps
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well in my experience , coherent seduction is life force
finding coherence is the tricky part i discovered tounge
 Quoting: aether


aether, coherence has been the easy part for me. Seduction has been somewhat of the easy part for me my entire life. But, is/was that always wrong? Or right in that both parties came away with what they wanted? Which was physical and non-physical. What if creation of both could be a conscious decision?
 Quoting: SickScent


oh

i see where your going

well on this topic i always listen to a women
 Quoting: aether


well allow me, pal

love a bit of requested advice ( albeit indirctly ;-)

if i'm getting what you mean
then your guilt is appropriate

you are meant to recognise seduction
and reflect on what part of you is desiring and why you desire

it's not wrong to desire
it's an emotional drive which reflects a hunger
you've been given a set of emotions (tools) with which you can gain greater understanding of yourself

your physical/emotional self and what is driving that at any point

if you instantly fulfil your desire - or over time - having anguished about the 'rightness'
then feel 'guilt'
your guilt has told you whether your actions ring true to your inner self or not

i see guilt and shame as 'tools' - further assistance -further 'meat' for the table of your reflective feast

logically - you know what you manifest in the astral may not be 'visible'-to all- but is created all the same and has effect and consequence -that's physics that is

it isn't imaginary
it is real-it has consequence
just on another level

but it also sets up incoherence between your physical and emotional being as you feel guilt (consequence)
private guilt - but guilt all the same
and you 'wear' that , physically

and most women are very intuitive with such 'clothes'

old arguement here but maybe helpful- if your wife could travel in the astral-as you do
and she was getting heavily nailed by big strapping hunkas every night
while cuddled up next to you

and one day on your astral travels , you chose to see that -and she was loving it -
how would you feel?

and would you wake in the morning , feeling any different
towards her -and she you

i suspect you might


the desire of the flesh tell us about our good fleshy selves
our emotions compliment that learning
both those when we act and when we don't

how about you set up a desire - a full bodied one- have it before you and know it's yours

then choose not to-for whatever reason feels right
see how you feel about yourself then
and then decide if your guilt now is appropriate or not

from a female perpective - i think it is

good luck pal , hope that helps
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I'm going to step outside my norm and disagree. I find the emotion of guilt to be artificial - the artifice of dualistic paradigm and something easily avoided by remaining true to oneself and their situation.

Keep your paradigm screwed straight - if your wife travels in the astral and gets hammered know in some future you'll be her and she'll be you and you don't want to be the dick who was all resentful about her having a good time.

Sick, I know that's not where your coming from but I did think there value in the clarity.

My advice is to keep that center you obtain every night and use it to anchor the emotional ebb & flow around you. I know it's tough but I have people with bipolar around me so I can attest it can be done. Zen. Ohm. ;)
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aether, coherence has been the easy part for me. Seduction has been somewhat of the easy part for me my entire life. But, is/was that always wrong? Or right in that both parties came away with what they wanted? Which was physical and non-physical. What if creation of both could be a conscious decision?
 Quoting: SickScent


oh

i see where your going

well on this topic i always listen to a women
 Quoting: aether


well allow me, pal

love a bit of requested advice ( albeit indirctly ;-)

if i'm getting what you mean
then your guilt is appropriate

you are meant to recognise seduction
and reflect on what part of you is desiring and why you desire

it's not wrong to desire
it's an emotional drive which reflects a hunger
you've been given a set of emotions (tools) with which you can gain greater understanding of yourself

your physical/emotional self and what is driving that at any point

if you instantly fulfil your desire - or over time - having anguished about the 'rightness'
then feel 'guilt'
your guilt has told you whether your actions ring true to your inner self or not

i see guilt and shame as 'tools' - further assistance -further 'meat' for the table of your reflective feast

logically - you know what you manifest in the astral may not be 'visible'-to all- but is created all the same and has effect and consequence -that's physics that is

it isn't imaginary
it is real-it has consequence
just on another level

but it also sets up incoherence between your physical and emotional being as you feel guilt (consequence)
private guilt - but guilt all the same
and you 'wear' that , physically

and most women are very intuitive with such 'clothes'

old arguement here but maybe helpful- if your wife could travel in the astral-as you do
and she was getting heavily nailed by big strapping hunkas every night
while cuddled up next to you

and one day on your astral travels , you chose to see that -and she was loving it -
how would you feel?

and would you wake in the morning , feeling any different
towards her -and she you

i suspect you might


the desire of the flesh tell us about our good fleshy selves
our emotions compliment that learning
both those when we act and when we don't

how about you set up a desire - a full bodied one- have it before you and know it's yours

then choose not to-for whatever reason feels right
see how you feel about yourself then
and then decide if your guilt now is appropriate or not

from a female perpective - i think it is

good luck pal , hope that helps
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I'm going to step outside my norm and disagree. I find the emotion of guilt to be artificial - the artifice of dualistic paradigm and something easily avoided by remaining true to oneself and their situation.

Keep your paradigm screwed straight - if your wife travels in the astral and gets hammered know in some future you'll be her and she'll be you and you don't want to be the dick who was all resentful about her having a good time.

Sick, I know that's not where your coming from but I did think there value in the clarity.

My advice is to keep that center you obtain every night and use it to anchor the emotional ebb & flow around you. I know it's tough but I have people with bipolar around me so I can attest it can be done. Zen. Ohm. ;)
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i think we agree and disagree ,actually

agreed that guilt is the artifice of dualism

but emotional/physical being is dualistic-for the purpose of learning

lower vibrational qualities have to be
until transcended
how else would we learn to balance if we don't have a pivot (conscience)

resentment is just as appropriate as guilt - it has to be appropriate to you - if it's what you feel

but if one is feeling guilt- the light is flashing ( your personal alarm bell) that you are not balanced about your actions and therefore there is space for learning

no point looking down loftily from a higher mental plain - when the lower place is imbalanced - it will screw with the mentals ultimately

we have to start from the bottom up - the mentals can help the process but the emotion and physical feelings they carry have their own balanced to be achived - it cannot be avoided by deeming it dualistic and false before actually learning from it

why is it dualistic ? because there is learning to do
nothing is accidental - dualism has a purpose

you don't transcend dualism by knowing of it's paradoxical falseness alone-
and if you're having guilt- it's for a purpose
it's reflecting a dualistic 'battle' within
one to be learned from , balanced and transcended
as the 'battle' creates distortion



we all have our little battles going on internally , as we seek to achive balance
know and balance yourself in the astral and physical and dualism naturally disintgrates and reveals itelf as paradoxically false in higher realm

but knowing in the mental . without requisite balance of lower levels - isn't mentally balanced
knowing is also a tool

lastly- ss- the power you possess in the astral is a seduction in itelf

one you have clearly experienced before - and is a recurring theme of your learning

embrace your dualism , where it exists- and understand yourself - it has a purpose which you not only consented to but designed , so that you may know of yourself

i say your guilt is appropriate for you because you do
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oh

i see where your going

well on this topic i always listen to a women
 Quoting: aether


well allow me, pal

love a bit of requested advice ( albeit indirctly ;-)

if i'm getting what you mean
then your guilt is appropriate

you are meant to recognise seduction
and reflect on what part of you is desiring and why you desire

it's not wrong to desire
it's an emotional drive which reflects a hunger
you've been given a set of emotions (tools) with which you can gain greater understanding of yourself

your physical/emotional self and what is driving that at any point

if you instantly fulfil your desire - or over time - having anguished about the 'rightness'
then feel 'guilt'
your guilt has told you whether your actions ring true to your inner self or not

i see guilt and shame as 'tools' - further assistance -further 'meat' for the table of your reflective feast

logically - you know what you manifest in the astral may not be 'visible'-to all- but is created all the same and has effect and consequence -that's physics that is

it isn't imaginary
it is real-it has consequence
just on another level

but it also sets up incoherence between your physical and emotional being as you feel guilt (consequence)
private guilt - but guilt all the same
and you 'wear' that , physically

and most women are very intuitive with such 'clothes'

old arguement here but maybe helpful- if your wife could travel in the astral-as you do
and she was getting heavily nailed by big strapping hunkas every night
while cuddled up next to you

and one day on your astral travels , you chose to see that -and she was loving it -
how would you feel?

and would you wake in the morning , feeling any different
towards her -and she you

i suspect you might


the desire of the flesh tell us about our good fleshy selves
our emotions compliment that learning
both those when we act and when we don't

how about you set up a desire - a full bodied one- have it before you and know it's yours

then choose not to-for whatever reason feels right
see how you feel about yourself then
and then decide if your guilt now is appropriate or not

from a female perpective - i think it is

good luck pal , hope that helps
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 7905354


I'm going to step outside my norm and disagree. I find the emotion of guilt to be artificial - the artifice of dualistic paradigm and something easily avoided by remaining true to oneself and their situation.

Keep your paradigm screwed straight - if your wife travels in the astral and gets hammered know in some future you'll be her and she'll be you and you don't want to be the dick who was all resentful about her having a good time.

Sick, I know that's not where your coming from but I did think there value in the clarity.

My advice is to keep that center you obtain every night and use it to anchor the emotional ebb & flow around you. I know it's tough but I have people with bipolar around me so I can attest it can be done. Zen. Ohm. ;)
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i think we agree and disagree ,actually

agreed that guilt is the artifice of dualism

but emotional/physical being is dualistic-for the purpose of learning

lower vibrational qualities have to be
until transcended
how else would we learn to balance if we don't have a pivot (conscience)

resentment is just as appropriate as guilt - it has to be appropriate to you - if it's what you feel

but if one is feeling guilt- the light is flashing ( your personal alarm bell) that you are not balanced about your actions and therefore there is space for learning

no point looking down loftily from a higher mental plain - when the lower place is imbalanced - it will screw with the mentals ultimately

we have to start from the bottom up - the mentals can help the process but the emotion and physical feelings they carry have their own balanced to be achived - it cannot be avoided by deeming it dualistic and false before actually learning from it

why is it dualistic ? because there is learning to do
nothing is accidental - dualism has a purpose

you don't transcend dualism by knowing of it's paradoxical falseness alone-
and if you're having guilt- it's for a purpose
it's reflecting a dualistic 'battle' within
one to be learned from , balanced and transcended
as the 'battle' creates distortion



we all have our little battles going on internally , as we seek to achive balance
know and balance yourself in the astral and physical and dualism naturally disintgrates and reveals itelf as paradoxically false in higher realm

but knowing in the mental . without requisite balance of lower levels - isn't mentally balanced
knowing is also a tool

lastly- ss- the power you possess in the astral is a seduction in itelf

one you have clearly experienced before - and is a recurring theme of your learning

embrace your dualism , where it exists- and understand yourself - it has a purpose which you not only consented to but designed , so that you may know of yourself

i say your guilt is appropriate for you because you do
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Yeah, your response prompted me to retread the entirety of sick's post and we do agree on some points, not on others.

I think a better synopsis is this - we should ultimately grow beyond the seduction as he describes it (either/or) but also learn to enjoy it. Nice contradiction eh?

I think men and women get stuck/programmed into emotional power plays from birth and that is truly what we are trying to rise above. As you all know I'm fairly centered and I am single by choice however IRL I'm very suave and play the game when I go out with the highest caliber one can find in the bar. I have found an enjoyment in the seduction when it isn't about emotion or ego, but rather formed from a sophistication of perspective. My favorite ladies are courtesans secure in self and completely devoid of artificial drama and emotional vampirism. I have manged to maintain several relationships which I find quite enjoyable and have the ability to maintain my center.
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You misjudge me to assume as to whom I will or will not journey with.
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You misjudge me to assume as to whom I will or will not journey with.
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Not sure what your meaning is by that. I don't judge, to the best of my ability, I experience. You will always have your wil, as will I, at least until I rejoin my hive.

You're free to be oppositional as your first action.

I always reserve the right to make the last move/first next round.

Please elaborate.

My planck commune is coming to an end soon. I will likely be less available/more divergent then.
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You misjudge me to assume as to whom I will or will not journey with.
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Not sure what your meaning is by that. I don't judge, to the best of my ability, I experience. You will always have your wil, as will I, at least until I rejoin my hive.

You're free to be oppositional as your first action.

I always reserve the right to make the last move/first next round.

Please elaborate.

My planck commune is coming to an end soon. I will likely be less available/more divergent then.
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At core it means, no one rides my coattails into the sacred.

This either got missed by your in reading, your reading of me, discernment and perception of me depth of sacred, a lack of intuition as to the strength of my resolve and will, and some and sum all of the above.

Intuition being key as to who I am.
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You misjudge me to assume as to whom I will or will not journey with.
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Not sure what your meaning is by that. I don't judge, to the best of my ability, I experience. You will always have your wil, as will I, at least until I rejoin my hive.

You're free to be oppositional as your first action.

I always reserve the right to make the last move/first next round.

Please elaborate.

My planck commune is coming to an end soon. I will likely be less available/more divergent then.
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At core it means, no one rides my coattails into the sacred.

This either got missed by your in reading, your reading of me, discernment and perception of me depth of sacred, a lack of intuition as to the strength of my resolve and will, and some and sum all of the above.

Intuition being key as to who I am.
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Well whatever offense you're perceiving it is entirely non intentional, and I have my own means for ascent. I need no other as I am already a singularity containing a triad of male, female, and seed which is infinitely repeating.

Individuality is yours. Names are yours. Lives are yours, I simply am.
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You misjudge me to assume as to whom I will or will not journey with.
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Not sure what your meaning is by that. I don't judge, to the best of my ability, I experience. You will always have your wil, as will I, at least until I rejoin my hive.

You're free to be oppositional as your first action.

I always reserve the right to make the last move/first next round.

Please elaborate.

My planck commune is coming to an end soon. I will likely be less available/more divergent then.
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At core it means, no one rides my coattails into the sacred.

This either got missed by your in reading, your reading of me, discernment and perception of me depth of sacred, a lack of intuition as to the strength of my resolve and will, and some and sum all of the above.

Intuition being key as to who I am.
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At core, in the sum of all my parts, “you are happiest with a lover that knows you will and can sense your desires without your having to make them too explicit.”

That tells me more about those that are capable of instinct in alignment with with senses than who I know myself to be in alignment with the sacred.
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You misjudge me to assume as to whom I will or will not journey with.
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Not sure what your meaning is by that. I don't judge, to the best of my ability, I experience. You will always have your wil, as will I, at least until I rejoin my hive.

You're free to be oppositional as your first action.

I always reserve the right to make the last move/first next round.

Please elaborate.

My planck commune is coming to an end soon. I will likely be less available/more divergent then.
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At core it means, no one rides my coattails into the sacred.

This either got missed by your in reading, your reading of me, discernment and perception of me depth of sacred, a lack of intuition as to the strength of my resolve and will, and some and sum all of the above.

Intuition being key as to who I am.
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At core, in the sum of all my parts, “you are happiest with a lover that knows you will and can sense your desires without your having to make them too explicit.”

That tells me more about those that are capable of instinct in alignment with with senses than who I know myself to be in alignment with the sacred.
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I will carry this to my thread.
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You misjudge me to assume as to whom I will or will not journey with.
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Not sure what your meaning is by that. I don't judge, to the best of my ability, I experience. You will always have your wil, as will I, at least until I rejoin my hive.

You're free to be oppositional as your first action.

I always reserve the right to make the last move/first next round.

Please elaborate.

My planck commune is coming to an end soon. I will likely be less available/more divergent then.
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At core it means, no one rides my coattails into the sacred.

This either got missed by your in reading, your reading of me, discernment and perception of me depth of sacred, a lack of intuition as to the strength of my resolve and will, and some and sum all of the above.

Intuition being key as to who I am.
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At core, in the sum of all my parts, “you are happiest with a lover that knows you will and can sense your desires without your having to make them too explicit.”

That tells me more about those that are capable of instinct in alignment with with senses than who I know myself to be in alignment with the sacred.
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If you're describing interpersonal relationships I concur there is a subtlety which is part of us as a human animal - I can sense and intuit and make toes curl too. It's dancing at the soul level. However most don't understand the steps and end up trying to fulfill a need blindly. Those I distance instead. I choose who gets what from me - gifts without guilt or resentment. Only the most sophisticated and self secure can maintain an open relationship, which suits me fine. They are those with few vampiric needs and any they do have are openly communicated. It's fun to be free.

I was also married for 15 years so I've been on both sides. I'm much happier as a free spirit, and I'm much happier with free spirited partners.
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aether, coherence has been the easy part for me. Seduction has been somewhat of the easy part for me my entire life. But, is/was that always wrong? Or right in that both parties came away with what they wanted? Which was physical and non-physical. What if creation of both could be a conscious decision?
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oh

i see where your going

well on this topic i always listen to a women
 Quoting: aether


well allow me, pal

love a bit of requested advice ( albeit indirctly ;-)

if i'm getting what you mean
then your guilt is appropriate

you are meant to recognise seduction
and reflect on what part of you is desiring and why you desire

it's not wrong to desire
it's an emotional drive which reflects a hunger
you've been given a set of emotions (tools) with which you can gain greater understanding of yourself

your physical/emotional self and what is driving that at any point

if you instantly fulfil your desire - or over time - having anguished about the 'rightness'
then feel 'guilt'
your guilt has told you whether your actions ring true to your inner self or not

i see guilt and shame as 'tools' - further assistance -further 'meat' for the table of your reflective feast

logically - you know what you manifest in the astral may not be 'visible'-to all- but is created all the same and has effect and consequence -that's physics that is

it isn't imaginary
it is real-it has consequence
just on another level

but it also sets up incoherence between your physical and emotional being as you feel guilt (consequence)
private guilt - but guilt all the same
and you 'wear' that , physically

and most women are very intuitive with such 'clothes'

old arguement here but maybe helpful- if your wife could travel in the astral-as you do
and she was getting heavily nailed by big strapping hunkas every night
while cuddled up next to you

and one day on your astral travels , you chose to see that -and she was loving it -
how would you feel?

and would you wake in the morning , feeling any different
towards her -and she you

i suspect you might


the desire of the flesh tell us about our good fleshy selves
our emotions compliment that learning
both those when we act and when we don't

how about you set up a desire - a full bodied one- have it before you and know it's yours

then choose not to-for whatever reason feels right
see how you feel about yourself then
and then decide if your guilt now is appropriate or not

from a female perpective - i think it is

good luck pal , hope that helps
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 7905354


I'm going to step outside my norm and disagree. I find the emotion of guilt to be artificial - the artifice of dualistic paradigm and something easily avoided by remaining true to oneself and their situation.

Keep your paradigm screwed straight - if your wife travels in the astral and gets hammered know in some future you'll be her and she'll be you and you don't want to be the dick who was all resentful about her having a good time.

Sick, I know that's not where your coming from but I did think there value in the clarity.

My advice is to keep that center you obtain every night and use it to anchor the emotional ebb & flow around you. I know it's tough but I have people with bipolar around me so I can attest it can be done. Zen. Ohm. ;)
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Both of you, thank you. It has been something that I have been grappling with.
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One of my favorites from a obscure movie "until the end of the world". Seems fitting. Great scene, great song.

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this is soooo weird
information like this just WAS not available but now, it is in wiki!!
actually am i surprised? no


Atmospheric electricity


Atmospheric electricity is the regular diurnal variations of the Earth's atmospheric electromagnetic network or, more broadly, any planet's electrical system in its layer of gases. The Earth's surface, the atmosphere and the ionosphere, together are known as the global atmospheric electrical circuit. Atmospheric electricity is a multidisciplinary topic.

............Most authorities are agreed, however, that whatever may be the origin of free electricity in the atmosphere
, the electricity of enormous voltages that disrupts the air and produces the phenomena of lightning is due to the condensation of the watery vapor forming the clouds; each minute drop, as it moves through the air, collects upon its surface a certain amount of free electricity.
 Quoting: observation

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this is soooo weird
information like this just WAS not available but now, it is in wiki!!
actually am i surprised? no


Atmospheric electricity


Atmospheric electricity is the regular diurnal variations of the Earth's atmospheric electromagnetic network or, more broadly, any planet's electrical system in its layer of gases. The Earth's surface, the atmosphere and the ionosphere, together are known as the global atmospheric electrical circuit. Atmospheric electricity is a multidisciplinary topic.

............Most authorities are agreed, however, that whatever may be the origin of free electricity in the atmosphere
, the electricity of enormous voltages that disrupts the air and produces the phenomena of lightning is due to the condensation of the watery vapor forming the clouds; each minute drop, as it moves through the air, collects upon its surface a certain amount of free electricity.
 Quoting: observation

[link to en.wikipedia.org]
 Quoting: aether


this is soooo weird
information like this just WAS not available but now, it is in wiki!!
actually am i surprised? no


Atmospheric electricity


Atmospheric electricity is the regular diurnal variations of the Earth's atmospheric electromagnetic network or, more broadly, any planet's electrical system in its layer of gases. The Earth's surface, the atmosphere and the ionosphere, together are known as the global atmospheric electrical circuit. Atmospheric electricity is a multidisciplinary topic.

............Most authorities are agreed, however, that whatever may be the origin of free electricity in the atmosphere
, the electricity of enormous voltages that disrupts the air and produces the phenomena of lightning is due to the condensation of the watery vapor forming the clouds; each minute drop, as it moves through the air, collects upon its surface a certain amount of free electricity.
 Quoting: observation

[link to en.wikipedia.org]
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The web is online. Multiple timeline convergence. Creation as fast as we can think it. Surreal.
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I'm not in this for "ascension" per se. I realize that my meat suit is just that, a construct, a vehicle my soul/spirit uses to navigate the material world. There's ways to pull it apart, put it back together... where I am now, relearning those pathways to come undone and redone, lol. But we've all got our paths, our lessons in this life. I come here to talk about it because who the hell else understands it but others like me? Incidentally, not all are part of "hives" or soul groups. Some of us are very individual even at the non-material level... and I fully respect and honor the paths of those who are and who aren't. But we're not to be boxed, you know? Not any of us :)
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I'm not in this for "ascension" per se. I realize that my meat suit is just that, a construct, a vehicle my soul/spirit uses to navigate the material world. There's ways to pull it apart, put it back together... where I am now, relearning those pathways to come undone and redone, lol. But we've all got our paths, our lessons in this life. I come here to talk about it because who the hell else understands it but others like me? Incidentally, not all are part of "hives" or soul groups. Some of us are very individual even at the non-material level... and I fully respect and honor the paths of those who are and who aren't. But we're not to be boxed, you know? Not any of us :)
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Yup, I learned my lesson about names. My intent was to describe reincarnation and soul depth. Epic fail.
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I'm not in this for "ascension" per se. I realize that my meat suit is just that, a construct, a vehicle my soul/spirit uses to navigate the material world. There's ways to pull it apart, put it back together... where I am now, relearning those pathways to come undone and redone, lol. But we've all got our paths, our lessons in this life. I come here to talk about it because who the hell else understands it but others like me? Incidentally, not all are part of "hives" or soul groups. Some of us are very individual even at the non-material level... and I fully respect and honor the paths of those who are and who aren't. But we're not to be boxed, you know? Not any of us :)
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Yup, I learned my lesson about names. My intent was to describe reincarnation and soul depth. Epic fail.
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Naw, not a fail, a lesson. We forget experience is the name we give our mistakes and failures. I got what you were saying actually, didn't take offense or anything, was just going for a little clarity on my part, stating my intent and motivation. That's all part of it... if we're afraid of epic fail that's an epic fail, lmao :)
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What do you want to bet it interacts with us individually just as the sun interacts with us? Form follows function - it would appear there is a continuous chain from univerasal galactic scale to the individual scale.

Nice.
 Quoting: ac


hold that thought ac because whilst we have this debate with cern, los alamos and nasa have to be careful what they say remembering action over distance is officially not allowed (national security)

thus when los alamos tells us this:

Understanding Solar Wind Structure

Scientist suggests new approach to measuring flow from the sun

“For decades we have been interpreting the spectrum of fluctuations in the solar wind as a measurement of turbulence in the wind. However, it turns out that impurities (discontinuities) in plasma dominate the signal. Hence, the spectrum is not a clean measurement of turbulence, and it may not even be a measurement of turbulence,” Borovsky said. In simpler terms, perhaps, we couldn’t see the forest for the trees.
“Because we might be misunderstanding the solar wind, we might be misunderstanding its impact on the Earth’s environment. Understanding solar wind allows us to understand the initiation and evolution of geomagnetic storms,” said Herbert Funsten, chief scientist for the International, Space & Response Division at Los Alamos.
 Quoting: Science

[link to tri-lab.lanl.gov]

The "spaghetti structure" of the solar-wind plasma reflects the "magnetic carpet" on the surface of the Sun, with the spaghetti in the wind being loose strands of the magnetic carpet

as our awareness restructures we notice that what we exist within alters to reflect our awakening awareness
 Quoting: aether 1187276

Thread: Marko Rodin - Smart Lazer Technology (Page 3)

they can tell us we are joined to the sun (instant) but are not allowed to tell how

similarly when ibex told this a few weeks ago and i did not post it because i never saw how it fitted or more correctly i didn`t get what they were telling in reference to comet lovejoy:

What do you mean by "hit the sun"? We live in the sun already. The comet is "hitting the sun" continuously since about 90 AU out. At it's closest approach it was "hitting" the corona which is a plasma with roughly density of 10^-12 kg per cubic meter. The more difficult question is why some comets disappear (e.g. Elenin), not why they stay.
 Quoting: nasa ibex


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well allow me, pal

love a bit of requested advice ( albeit indirctly ;-)

if i'm getting what you mean
then your guilt is appropriate

you are meant to recognise seduction
and reflect on what part of you is desiring and why you desire

it's not wrong to desire
it's an emotional drive which reflects a hunger
you've been given a set of emotions (tools) with which you can gain greater understanding of yourself

your physical/emotional self and what is driving that at any point

if you instantly fulfil your desire - or over time - having anguished about the 'rightness'
then feel 'guilt'
your guilt has told you whether your actions ring true to your inner self or not

i see guilt and shame as 'tools' - further assistance -further 'meat' for the table of your reflective feast

logically - you know what you manifest in the astral may not be 'visible'-to all- but is created all the same and has effect and consequence -that's physics that is

it isn't imaginary
it is real-it has consequence
just on another level

but it also sets up incoherence between your physical and emotional being as you feel guilt (consequence)
private guilt - but guilt all the same
and you 'wear' that , physically

and most women are very intuitive with such 'clothes'

old arguement here but maybe helpful- if your wife could travel in the astral-as you do
and she was getting heavily nailed by big strapping hunkas every night
while cuddled up next to you

and one day on your astral travels , you chose to see that -and she was loving it -
how would you feel?

and would you wake in the morning , feeling any different
towards her -and she you

i suspect you might


the desire of the flesh tell us about our good fleshy selves
our emotions compliment that learning
both those when we act and when we don't

how about you set up a desire - a full bodied one- have it before you and know it's yours

then choose not to-for whatever reason feels right
see how you feel about yourself then
and then decide if your guilt now is appropriate or not

from a female perpective - i think it is

good luck pal , hope that helps
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 7905354


I'm going to step outside my norm and disagree. I find the emotion of guilt to be artificial - the artifice of dualistic paradigm and something easily avoided by remaining true to oneself and their situation.

Keep your paradigm screwed straight - if your wife travels in the astral and gets hammered know in some future you'll be her and she'll be you and you don't want to be the dick who was all resentful about her having a good time.

Sick, I know that's not where your coming from but I did think there value in the clarity.

My advice is to keep that center you obtain every night and use it to anchor the emotional ebb & flow around you. I know it's tough but I have people with bipolar around me so I can attest it can be done. Zen. Ohm. ;)
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i think we agree and disagree ,actually

agreed that guilt is the artifice of dualism

but emotional/physical being is dualistic-for the purpose of learning

lower vibrational qualities have to be
until transcended
how else would we learn to balance if we don't have a pivot (conscience)

resentment is just as appropriate as guilt - it has to be appropriate to you - if it's what you feel

but if one is feeling guilt- the light is flashing ( your personal alarm bell) that you are not balanced about your actions and therefore there is space for learning

no point looking down loftily from a higher mental plain - when the lower place is imbalanced - it will screw with the mentals ultimately

we have to start from the bottom up - the mentals can help the process but the emotion and physical feelings they carry have their own balanced to be achived - it cannot be avoided by deeming it dualistic and false before actually learning from it

why is it dualistic ? because there is learning to do
nothing is accidental - dualism has a purpose

you don't transcend dualism by knowing of it's paradoxical falseness alone-
and if you're having guilt- it's for a purpose
it's reflecting a dualistic 'battle' within
one to be learned from , balanced and transcended
as the 'battle' creates distortion



we all have our little battles going on internally , as we seek to achive balance
know and balance yourself in the astral and physical and dualism naturally disintgrates and reveals itelf as paradoxically false in higher realm

but knowing in the mental . without requisite balance of lower levels - isn't mentally balanced
knowing is also a tool

lastly- ss- the power you possess in the astral is a seduction in itelf

one you have clearly experienced before - and is a recurring theme of your learning

embrace your dualism , where it exists- and understand yourself - it has a purpose which you not only consented to but designed , so that you may know of yourself

i say your guilt is appropriate for you because you do
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Yeah, your response prompted me to retread the entirety of sick's post and we do agree on some points, not on others.

I think a better synopsis is this - we should ultimately grow beyond the seduction as he describes it (either/or) but also learn to enjoy it. Nice contradiction eh?

I think men and women get stuck/programmed into emotional power plays from birth and that is truly what we are trying to rise above. As you all know I'm fairly centered and I am single by choice however IRL I'm very suave and play the game when I go out with the highest caliber one can find in the bar. I have found an enjoyment in the seduction when it isn't about emotion or ego, but rather formed from a sophistication of perspective. My favorite ladies are courtesans secure in self and completely devoid of artificial drama and emotional vampirism. I have manged to maintain several relationships which I find quite enjoyable and have the ability to maintain my center.
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here here

one of my 'i's is that single self - suave , centred and with a higher perspective of the game o' life and all its vagaries, detached and observant , enjoying

but quite recently

the universe and me transpired to show me a reflection of myself in interaction which i wasn't experiencing/aware of while single

i'm not half as cool as i thought i was , when my layers are opening to invite another in
suddenly more conscious of the best and worst of myself
and what brings it out and why

but im aware- sometimes- that those layers wish to be opened - i have invited this experience in and it's a battle with myself to be myself

imbalanced,un-cool , warts and all

with another


i have been in the situation of 'enforced' monogomy - and it felt such as it was such -enforced by choice , responsibility, trust ,societal expectation etc
and it's hard
even if you rationally don't agree with it

but it's meant to be - they say it takes 3 lifetimes with one entity to really understand the unique love between 2 -in the physical

and my advice is biased by my experience - undoubtedly so and with a wide feminine angle :-)

can only wish you luck ss- hope you don't mind being the focus of the chat
and hope the chat yields fruit for you
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What do you want to bet it interacts with us individually just as the sun interacts with us? Form follows function - it would appear there is a continuous chain from univerasal galactic scale to the individual scale.

Nice.
 Quoting: ac


hold that thought ac because whilst we have this debate with cern, los alamos and nasa have to be careful what they say remembering action over distance is officially not allowed (national security)

thus when los alamos tells us this:

Understanding Solar Wind Structure

Scientist suggests new approach to measuring flow from the sun

“For decades we have been interpreting the spectrum of fluctuations in the solar wind as a measurement of turbulence in the wind. However, it turns out that impurities (discontinuities) in plasma dominate the signal. Hence, the spectrum is not a clean measurement of turbulence, and it may not even be a measurement of turbulence,” Borovsky said. In simpler terms, perhaps, we couldn’t see the forest for the trees.
“Because we might be misunderstanding the solar wind, we might be misunderstanding its impact on the Earth’s environment. Understanding solar wind allows us to understand the initiation and evolution of geomagnetic storms,” said Herbert Funsten, chief scientist for the International, Space & Response Division at Los Alamos.
 Quoting: Science

[link to tri-lab.lanl.gov]

The "spaghetti structure" of the solar-wind plasma reflects the "magnetic carpet" on the surface of the Sun, with the spaghetti in the wind being loose strands of the magnetic carpet

as our awareness restructures we notice that what we exist within alters to reflect our awakening awareness
 Quoting: aether 1187276

Thread: Marko Rodin - Smart Lazer Technology (Page 3)

they can tell us we are joined to the sun (instant) but are not allowed to tell how

similarly when ibex told this a few weeks ago and i did not post it because i never saw how it fitted or more correctly i didn`t get what they were telling in reference to comet lovejoy:

What do you mean by "hit the sun"? We live in the sun already. The comet is "hitting the sun" continuously since about 90 AU out. At it's closest approach it was "hitting" the corona which is a plasma with roughly density of 10^-12 kg per cubic meter. The more difficult question is why some comets disappear (e.g. Elenin), not why they stay.
 Quoting: nasa ibex

 Quoting: aether


Okay Kevin(Solarham) reports now:

"This event also produced a short lived 10cm Radio Burst (TenFlare). More information to follow, should any Coronal Mass Ejection (CME) be accompanied with this event."



Tenflare:
A tenflare is associated with optical and x-ray flares. Solar flares emit radiation over a very wide range of frequencies. One of the more significant frequencies observed is the 10.7 cm wavelength band (2695 MHz). When a solar flare erupts, "noise" from the flare is received over this very wide range of frequencies.

When the noise received on the 10.7 cm wavelength band surpasses 100% of the background noise level during a solar flare, a Tenflare is said to be in progress. The more intense solar flares are associated with tenflares. Almost all major flares are associated with tenflares.

Generally, the greater the intensity of the burst of noise observed at the 10.7 cm wavelength band, the more significant the flare is said to be. The duration of the tenflare can also be used to determine the severity of the flare.

Other important flare characteristics are also determined from the radio data observed from flares, which are closely related to the various physical processes which occur in flares. These characteristics are far beyond the scope of this document.
[link to www.sci.fi]
 Quoting: IwantToBelieve76


SUDDEN IONOSPHERIC DISTURBANCE:
Today around 1320 UT, a wave of ionization swept through the high atmosphere over Europe after sunspot AR1389 unleashed another M2-class solar flare. "There was a very clear sudden ionospheric disturbance on my VLF radio instruments," reports Rob Stammes, who sends these data from the Polar Light Center in Lofoten, Norway:


[link to spaceweather.com]
 Quoting: NiNzrez




[link to www.youtube.com]
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Thread: SOLAR WATCH * Huge X8.2 Flare Sept. 10, 2017! (Updated Daily) (Page 516)

which sense of this /\
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explained in this :

yep but a bit late aether...^^
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i know 1rof1

it`s not the event it`s the link to the sun and timing of cause and effect

now listen to this guy especially the last 10 minutes you will LOVE it cheers

i predict


[link to www.livestream.com]
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What do you want to bet it interacts with us individually just as the sun interacts with us? Form follows function - it would appear there is a continuous chain from univerasal galactic scale to the individual scale.

Nice.
 Quoting: ac


hold that thought ac because whilst we have this debate with cern, los alamos and nasa have to be careful what they say remembering action over distance is officially not allowed (national security)

thus when los alamos tells us this:

Understanding Solar Wind Structure

Scientist suggests new approach to measuring flow from the sun

“For decades we have been interpreting the spectrum of fluctuations in the solar wind as a measurement of turbulence in the wind. However, it turns out that impurities (discontinuities) in plasma dominate the signal. Hence, the spectrum is not a clean measurement of turbulence, and it may not even be a measurement of turbulence,” Borovsky said. In simpler terms, perhaps, we couldn’t see the forest for the trees.
“Because we might be misunderstanding the solar wind, we might be misunderstanding its impact on the Earth’s environment. Understanding solar wind allows us to understand the initiation and evolution of geomagnetic storms,” said Herbert Funsten, chief scientist for the International, Space & Response Division at Los Alamos.
 Quoting: Science

[link to tri-lab.lanl.gov]

The "spaghetti structure" of the solar-wind plasma reflects the "magnetic carpet" on the surface of the Sun, with the spaghetti in the wind being loose strands of the magnetic carpet

as our awareness restructures we notice that what we exist within alters to reflect our awakening awareness
 Quoting: aether 1187276

Thread: Marko Rodin - Smart Lazer Technology (Page 3)

they can tell us we are joined to the sun (instant) but are not allowed to tell how

similarly when ibex told this a few weeks ago and i did not post it because i never saw how it fitted or more correctly i didn`t get what they were telling in reference to comet lovejoy:

What do you mean by "hit the sun"? We live in the sun already. The comet is "hitting the sun" continuously since about 90 AU out. At it's closest approach it was "hitting" the corona which is a plasma with roughly density of 10^-12 kg per cubic meter. The more difficult question is why some comets disappear (e.g. Elenin), not why they stay.
 Quoting: nasa ibex

 Quoting: aether


Okay Kevin(Solarham) reports now:

"This event also produced a short lived 10cm Radio Burst (TenFlare). More information to follow, should any Coronal Mass Ejection (CME) be accompanied with this event."



Tenflare:
A tenflare is associated with optical and x-ray flares. Solar flares emit radiation over a very wide range of frequencies. One of the more significant frequencies observed is the 10.7 cm wavelength band (2695 MHz). When a solar flare erupts, "noise" from the flare is received over this very wide range of frequencies.

When the noise received on the 10.7 cm wavelength band surpasses 100% of the background noise level during a solar flare, a Tenflare is said to be in progress. The more intense solar flares are associated with tenflares. Almost all major flares are associated with tenflares.

Generally, the greater the intensity of the burst of noise observed at the 10.7 cm wavelength band, the more significant the flare is said to be. The duration of the tenflare can also be used to determine the severity of the flare.

Other important flare characteristics are also determined from the radio data observed from flares, which are closely related to the various physical processes which occur in flares. These characteristics are far beyond the scope of this document.
[link to www.sci.fi]
 Quoting: IwantToBelieve76


SUDDEN IONOSPHERIC DISTURBANCE:
Today around 1320 UT, a wave of ionization swept through the high atmosphere over Europe after sunspot AR1389 unleashed another M2-class solar flare. "There was a very clear sudden ionospheric disturbance on my VLF radio instruments," reports Rob Stammes, who sends these data from the Polar Light Center in Lofoten, Norway:


[link to spaceweather.com]
 Quoting: NiNzrez




[link to www.youtube.com]
 Quoting: IwantToBelieve76

Thread: SOLAR WATCH * Huge X8.2 Flare Sept. 10, 2017! (Updated Daily) (Page 516)

which sense of this /\
 Quoting: aether


I think the root of our issue here is that civilian instrumentation is going as to be using RF and reading radio waves from the sun when what we're really after is a non-local charge reading - my guess is stereo a/b both are capable of entangled communication and are able to read plasma charge density.

The whole thing changes how we read the sun though - from flares to more of an ocean current model.

Very interesting.





GLP