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you know beau reading your and hils conversation i thought topics resolves the issues , then i go to a feedback point

what i can say is the feedback has formed a preciseness which in itself tells we are within the correct topic that touches thus effects all others

what i find shocking is that a 100 years ago the democratically elected peoples leader of england at the peak of his countries global influence can use such a sequence of words and the topic still become both buried and edited to the point it disappeared from human awareness

The Persistent Illusion
January 12, 2012

Does the acceleration of gravity alone create high frequency radiation?

Greatness is a zigzag streak of lightning in the brain.”— Herbert Asquith, Prime Minister of the United Kingdom, 1908-1916

Black holes are theoretically required because velocity and gravity calculations of motions at the galactic center yield otherwise impossible results. Matter inside a black hole is said to be near infinite density, with intense gravitational attraction so great that not even light can escape. They are called “black” holes because they cannot be detected with optical telescopes. They are thought to inhabit over 90% of the galaxies in the Universe........................


.........................In a galactic circuit, electric power flows inward along the spiral arms where it is concentrated and stored in the central plasmoid. When the plasmoid reaches a threshold density, it must decay and discharge, along the galaxy’s spin axis. This process can be demonstrated in the laboratory using a plasma focus device.

The discharge creates neutrons, heavy ions, and electrons jetting out from the nucleus. Electromagnetic forces confine the jet to thin filaments that remain coherent for thousands of light-years. The jet usually ends in radio lobes on either side of the galaxy, which radiate in radio frequencies.

The cosmic Birkeland currents that supply energy to galactic plasmoids also provide rotational energy by spinning around one another. Electromagnetism concentrates electric currents that generate magnetic fields, increasing current confinement forces, which increases the magnetic field, and so on. When those forces act on the galactic scale, they might be perceived in the unphysical way of black holes.
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[link to www.thunderbolts.info]
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That's very interesting Aether, reminds me of my theory about a Star with a Neutron Nucleus, perhaps if you placed a Star in the right place you could funnel the off shoot of these Nucleus coming from the "Black Hole" in the Galaxy to make a Sun like the one we have on Earth?
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I want lazer eyes.
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so the motive of the empire, following 1000 years of experience, was to place sophia (wisdom) as it`s symbol of what the empire stood for and utilize jesus as a shining example of why
 Quoting: aether

and that was the motive to elevate jesus to a god nearly 400 years after his leaving, to end forever the empires motive of expressing what man can achieve with wisdom
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or conversely, what wisdom achieves with the man
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'or conversely, what wisdom', Sophia in Gnostic origins of life, 'achieves with the man'

Pistis Sopia...Faith in Wisdom. Faith is part of our inherent wiring...lol Not ‘belief’. Not something outside of self. Ultimate act of ‘forethought’ in wiring!

i.e. jesus stored in Fish. Jesus stored in Vesica Piscis...or further back....Jesus stored in Pistis Sophia. Light stored in the 12 chakra system!....again Hindu system...‘He’ went down there to find her praising the light. 13th praise....astral.

This has to be pinpoint of bastardization by Christian dogma...now marketed and sold, bought and sold and stolen long ago, as a stupid car magnet with the word ‘Jesus’ in a Fish symbol.

‘Stolen’ knowledge of Gnosticism, inherent knowing, by the founders of the Christian Church.

rockon
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Kind of sounds like something out of song of songs, drinking out of one another bowls and such. That's very interesting, perhaps they were praising the light together?
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and that was the motive to elevate jesus to a god nearly 400 years after his leaving, to end forever the empires motive of expressing what man can achieve with wisdom
 Quoting: aether


or conversely, what wisdom achieves with the man
 Quoting: aether


'or conversely, what wisdom', Sophia in Gnostic origins of life, 'achieves with the man'

Pistis Sopia...Faith in Wisdom. Faith is part of our inherent wiring...lol Not ‘belief’. Not something outside of self. Ultimate act of ‘forethought’ in wiring!

i.e. jesus stored in Fish. Jesus stored in Vesica Piscis...or further back....Jesus stored in Pistis Sophia. Light stored in the 12 chakra system!....again Hindu system...‘He’ went down there to find her praising the light. 13th praise....astral.

This has to be pinpoint of bastardization by Christian dogma...now marketed and sold, bought and sold and stolen long ago, as a stupid car magnet with the word ‘Jesus’ in a Fish symbol.

‘Stolen’ knowledge of Gnosticism, inherent knowing, by the founders of the Christian Church.

rockon
 Quoting: A Muse Me


Kind of sounds like something out of song of songs, drinking out of one another bowls and such. That's very interesting, perhaps they were praising the light together?
 Quoting: HilosPP


As represented in Hindu, ancient carvings on their temples, in relation to tantra, it was “all together.” Just like our bodies are ‘all together’. “incestuous brood of ancient descent.” Believe me that was a hard word to leave in there when it came to mind. So to “fuck the hate and give some love” I will not change the word. Buy into the ‘shame’ by changing it into the fullness of ‘tantric brood’. Just insert a ‘footnote’ or two to cover my ass....lmao
The term derives from the Ancient Greek words, meta, meaning beyond or after, and noia, meaning perception or understanding or mind.
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and that was the motive to elevate jesus to a god nearly 400 years after his leaving, to end forever the empires motive of expressing what man can achieve with wisdom
 Quoting: aether


or conversely, what wisdom achieves with the man
 Quoting: aether


'or conversely, what wisdom', Sophia in Gnostic origins of life, 'achieves with the man'

Pistis Sopia...Faith in Wisdom. Faith is part of our inherent wiring...lol Not ‘belief’. Not something outside of self. Ultimate act of ‘forethought’ in wiring!

i.e. jesus stored in Fish. Jesus stored in Vesica Piscis...or further back....Jesus stored in Pistis Sophia. Light stored in the 12 chakra system!....again Hindu system...‘He’ went down there to find her praising the light. 13th praise....astral.

This has to be pinpoint of bastardization by Christian dogma...now marketed and sold, bought and sold and stolen long ago, as a stupid car magnet with the word ‘Jesus’ in a Fish symbol.

‘Stolen’ knowledge of Gnosticism, inherent knowing, by the founders of the Christian Church.

rockon
 Quoting: A Muse Me


Kind of sounds like something out of song of songs, drinking out of one another bowls and such. That's very interesting, perhaps they were praising the light together?
 Quoting: HilosPP


It is was ‘sup from the cup’ with footnote to 'grail.’ Off the top of my head.
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I wonder if that could tie into the Celestine Prophecy with a 14th Chakra network man shares as a species and than in turn all of mankind come to learn the first 13. That'd be cool.
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I want lazer eyes.
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For what?
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or conversely, what wisdom achieves with the man
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'or conversely, what wisdom', Sophia in Gnostic origins of life, 'achieves with the man'

Pistis Sopia...Faith in Wisdom. Faith is part of our inherent wiring...lol Not ‘belief’. Not something outside of self. Ultimate act of ‘forethought’ in wiring!

i.e. jesus stored in Fish. Jesus stored in Vesica Piscis...or further back....Jesus stored in Pistis Sophia. Light stored in the 12 chakra system!....again Hindu system...‘He’ went down there to find her praising the light. 13th praise....astral.

This has to be pinpoint of bastardization by Christian dogma...now marketed and sold, bought and sold and stolen long ago, as a stupid car magnet with the word ‘Jesus’ in a Fish symbol.

‘Stolen’ knowledge of Gnosticism, inherent knowing, by the founders of the Christian Church.

rockon
 Quoting: A Muse Me


Kind of sounds like something out of song of songs, drinking out of one another bowls and such. That's very interesting, perhaps they were praising the light together?
 Quoting: HilosPP


As represented in Hindu, ancient carvings on their temples, in relation to tantra, it was “all together.” Just like our bodies are ‘all together’. “incestuous brood of ancient descent.” Believe me that was a hard word to leave in there when it came to mind. So to “fuck the hate and give some love” I will not change the word. Buy into the ‘shame’ by changing it into the fullness of ‘tantric brood’. Just insert a ‘footnote’ or two to cover my ass....lmao
 Quoting: A Muse Me



I wonder if that could tie into the Celestine Prophecy with a 14th Chakra network man shares as a species and than in turn all of mankind come to learn the first 13. That'd be cool.
 Quoting: HilosPP

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Haha, I'm going to have to write a book this stuff is writing itself, even have 14 trees of life by than, and Earth will be fully Sentient.
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Haha, I'm going to have to write a book this stuff is writing itself, even have 14 trees of life by than, and Earth will be fully Sentient.
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it is hils and the good news is the empire is aware that it does and is also aware that within this location it will not be interrupted

metatron can not imagine interruption 1rof1
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[link to www.physorg.com]


tptb...
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Examples of a crystal previously thought to be impossible in nature may have come from space, a study shows.

Quasicrystals have an unusual structure - in between those of crystals and glasses.

Until two years ago, quasicrystals had only been created in the lab - then geologists found them in rocks from Russia's Koryak mountains

The mineral - an alloy of aluminium, copper, and iron - showed that quasicrystals could form and remain stable under natural conditions. But the natural process that created the structures remained an open question

[link to www.bbc.co.uk]
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hey Aether...I'm not sure yet what to do with that...but look at it then look at the link on the 4 forces I sent you prior...not only look at gluon but look to the weakest force too;-)hf

oh yea, and of course fluorine too;-)
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I wonder if that could tie into the Celestine Prophecy with a 14th Chakra network man shares as a species and than in turn all of mankind come to learn the first 13. That'd be cool.
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Answered in my thread with some further thoughts from aruna’s thread. Which is a great thread with much food for thought on concept of 12. Just saw it yesterday when it bumped to the front page.
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Haha, I'm going to have to write a book this stuff is writing itself, even have 14 trees of life by than, and Earth will be fully Sentient.
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it is hils and the good news is the empire is aware that it does and is also aware that within this location it will not be interrupted

metatron can not imagine interruption 1rof1
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There probably are no interruptions in concept of ‘burning’ and ‘speed of light’ unless the wiring it a bit fucked up....lmao
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I wonder if that could tie into the Celestine Prophecy with a 14th Chakra network man shares as a species and than in turn all of mankind come to learn the first 13. That'd be cool.
 Quoting: HilosPP


Answered in my thread with some further thoughts from aruna’s thread. Which is a great thread with much food for thought on concept of 12. Just saw it yesterday when it bumped to the front page.
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Yes, if mankind can learn the 13th once meeting their Twin Flame than they could share the 14th as a species.
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I wonder if that could tie into the Celestine Prophecy with a 14th Chakra network man shares as a species and than in turn all of mankind come to learn the first 13. That'd be cool.
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Answered in my thread with some further thoughts from aruna’s thread. Which is a great thread with much food for thought on concept of 12. Just saw it yesterday when it bumped to the front page.
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Actually I see where you got that now. I will go back and reread it. It lives by my bedside bookshelf...lol
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ok what gives? Everytime I try to post anything of significance lately it wont post ....getting frustrated. Maybe I need to take my thoughts to another place.hmm
So much for being a paid member.
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Thats strange......Are you posting to much of an article? No more than 50% is allowed. For copy right reasons.1dunno1
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I wonder if that could tie into the Celestine Prophecy with a 14th Chakra network man shares as a species and than in turn all of mankind come to learn the first 13. That'd be cool.
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Answered in my thread with some further thoughts from aruna’s thread. Which is a great thread with much food for thought on concept of 12. Just saw it yesterday when it bumped to the front page.
 Quoting: A Muse Me


Yes, if mankind can learn the 13th once meeting their Twin Flame than they could share the 14th as a species.
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Oh. Humm. Conflict still with concept of twin flame. Danger. Will Robison...lmao But yes I do recall it coming up in Celestine. And I would want to review some Rumi. But recall I said long ago that I resonated with the concept that there are not special relationships from that portion of the Course in Miracle. So twin flame outside of self. I still hold. I doubt it. Coming back together with our own twin flame and merger of male and female. just wanted to answer to remind me to further think, again, about this twin flame thing. I still hold that thought of negative and positive stored in the negative. Or female and male stored in the female. Which does seem to make more sense in context of chromosomes too.
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I wonder if that could tie into the Celestine Prophecy with a 14th Chakra network man shares as a species and than in turn all of mankind come to learn the first 13. That'd be cool.
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Answered in my thread with some further thoughts from aruna’s thread. Which is a great thread with much food for thought on concept of 12. Just saw it yesterday when it bumped to the front page.
 Quoting: A Muse Me


Yes, if mankind can learn the 13th once meeting their Twin Flame than they could share the 14th as a species.
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Oh. Humm. Conflict still with concept of twin flame. Danger. Will Robison...lmao But yes I do recall it coming up in Celestine. And I would want to review some Rumi. But recall I said long ago that I resonated with the concept that there are not special relationships from that portion of the Course in Miracle. So twin flame outside of self. I still hold. I doubt it. Coming back together with our own twin flame and merger of male and female. just wanted to answer to remind me to further think, again, about this twin flame thing. I still hold that thought of negative and positive stored in the negative. Or female and male stored in the female. Which does seem to make more sense in context of chromosomes too.
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Ya, I'd like to consider myself an innovative thinker so I'm not sure you'll find what I'm saying exactly in any book but I pretty sure a piece of it will be in all the stuff you just mentioned, not to mention what the Romans destroy. I believe what you see as positive coming from negative is negatives greatest trick, I believe negative feeds off the positive because its fully self-sustaining.
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Vatican throws light on history as it opens secret archives

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The priceless documents span more than a millennium, from the 8th century to modern times, and feature a cast of historical characters ranging from the Knights Templar to Galileo, Martin Luther and Henry VIII.
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What most people are unaware of is that the whole theory of evolution has been overwhelmingly refuted a number of times and via a number of totally unrelated arguments to such an extent that ANY normal science theory under the same circumstances would have been rejected and thrown out literally decades ago.

The first such disproof and the one which rightfully should have ended the debate involved fruit flies. Fruit flies breed new generations every other day so that running any sort of a decades-long experiment with fruit flies will involve more generations of them than there have ever been of anything even remotely resembling humans on our planet. Those flies were subjected to everything in the world known to cause mutations and the mutants were recombined every possible way; all they ever got were sterile freaks, and fruit flies. Several prominent scientists publicly denounced evolution at that point in time including the famous case of Richard Goldschmidt.

The failure was due to the fact that our entire living world is driven by information and the only information there ever was in the picture was that for a fruit fly. When the DNA/RNA information scheme was discovered, even if the fruit fly thing had never happened, evolution should have been discarded on the spot. But GIVEN the fact of the fruit fly experiments, somebody HAD to have thought to himself Hey, THAT`S THE REASON THE FRUIT FLY EXPERIMENTS FAILED!!!!!!

The DNA/RNA system is an information code just like C#, Java, or C++. Information codes do not just sort of happen or appear amongst inanimate matter for no particular reason. In other words, there is no way in the world anybody should be believing in evolution 40 years after the discovery of DNA and, again, that`s just one overwhelming disproof amongst a number of such. Again no legitimate science theory would ever survive such a history.
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And then there is the Haldane dilemma, which amounts to an understanding of the time spans which would be needed to spread ANY genetic change through any group of creatures. A very simple version of the thing is all most intelligent people should need:


Imagine a population of 100,000 apes or &quot;proto-humans&quot; ten million years ago which are all genetically alike other than for two with a &quot;beneficial mutation&quot;. Imagine also that this population has the human or proto-human generation cycle time of roughly 20 years.

Imagine that the beneficial mutation in question is so good, that all 99,998 other die out immediately (from jealousy), and that the pair with the beneficial mutation has 100,000 kids and thus replenishes the herd.

Imagine that this process goes on like that for ten million years, which is more than anybody claims is involved in &quot;human evolution&quot;. The max number of such &quot;beneficial mutations&quot; which could thus be substituted into the herd would be ten million divided by twenty, or 500,000 point mutations which, Walter Remine notes, is about 1/100 of one percent of the human genome, and a miniscule fraction of the 2 to 3 percent that separates us from chimpanzees, or the half of that which separates us from neanderthals.

That basically says that even given a rate of evolutionary development which is fabulously beyond anything which is possible in the real world, starting from apes, in ten million years the best you could possibly hope for would be an ape with a slightly shorter tail.

People who have carried out the math for real-world rates of substitution come up with it taking quadrillions of years for our present living world to have evolved in any fashion even if that were possible, which it isn`t.

So evolution needs quadrillions of years... how much time do they (evolutionites) actually have? A very big part of the answer has been coming in lately in the form of blood, blood vessels, and raw meat turning up in dinosaur remains:
 Quoting: observation


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Haha, nice. Wonder if you can tell the age of different blood types in humans from theirs, the dino meat I mean. Like Jurassic Park even, drop some of that in the radio active sea in Japan have some real fun.
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In other words, Midrashic sources and Amerind oral traditions are basically correct in describing human interaction with dinosaurs just a few thousand years ago (there is no way raw meat and blood can survive for millions of years) and the thing we`ve heard all our lives about dinosaurs dying out all our lives is a bunch of BS.

A theory which needs quadrillions of years and only has a few thousand is basically FUBAR; no reasonably well educated person should ever buy into it.

What about humans, hominids such as the Neanderthal, and the stories we keep seeing in the news about some new human ancestor of the year which is supposedly going to save evolutionism, and what about the 30,000 and 200,000 year time frames involved in those stories?

In order to be descended from something via any process resembling evolution, at some point, you have to be able to interbreed with the something. Thus the curious total lack of any real evidence of modern man ever interbreeding with Neanderthals was always viewed as a big mystery particularly since there was evidence of the two groups living in close proximity for long periods. James Shreeve described the problem in an article published in Discover magazine in the mid 90s:
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The Neanderthal Peace

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you know this story arrived yesterday and i was not in the mood to get into it, i must stop being like that rockon
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That's true, I feel like my Soul has known 46 lives on this planet and Mr. Lear said that the planet is known to be 4.5 billion years old, which makes sense because I think 31 years old is extremely young for each of those 46 lifetimes, this being the 46th temple my Soul has known and all.
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And then in the late 1990s results of DNA studies of Neanderthal remains began to come in and cleared up the mystery:
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Fossil DNA proves Neanderthals were not ancestors of humans
[link to www.expressindia.com]

That`s right: the Neanderthal was basically an advanced ape whose DNA was almost exactly halfway between ours and that of a chimpanzee, and we could no more interbreed with Neanderthals than we could with horses. Even the prestigeious PlosBiology system gave up on the idea (No Evidence of Neandertal mtDNA Contribution to Early Modern Humans).

No Evidence of Neandertal mtDNA Contribution to Early Modern Humans
[link to www.plosbiology.org]

Clearly that should have been the end of any talk about modern humans having evolved from hominids since all other hominids were significantly FURTHER removed from us THAN the neanderthal. Nonetheless evolutionites go on talking about a &quot;common ancestor(TM) for both ourselves and Neanderthals, 5000,000 years back. That of course is idiotic; it`s as if somebody had discovered some reason why dogs could not be descended from wolves, and the evolutionites were to claim that therefore they (dogs) must be descended directly from fish.

But what about the time frames? We`ve seen that the time frmes we read about for dinosaurs are totally FUBAR, what about the 50,000 and 200,000 and 500,000 year time spans you read about for supposed human ancestors? Do evolutionites have the sort of time they`d need to even be talking about hominid/human evolution?

Gunnar Heinsohn is best/brightest category in European academia and a frequent speaker at NATO gatherings since his population youth bulge theories predict political unrest with near 100% accuracy; he`s also a major player in the ongoing efforts to reconstruct Med-basin chronologies. HisWie Alt ist das Menschengeschlect describes the problem with the dating schemes typically associated with Neanderthal studies:


But what about the time frames? We`ve seen that the time frmes we read about for dinosaurs are totally FUBAR, what about the 50,000 and 200,000 and 500,000 year time spans you read about for supposed human ancestors? Do evolutionites have the sort of time they`d need to even be talking about hominid/human evolution?

Gunnar Heinsohn is best/brightest category in European academia and a frequent speaker at NATO gatherings since his population youth bulge theories predict political unrest with near 100% accuracy; he`s also a major player in the ongoing efforts to reconstruct Med-basin chronologies. His Wie Alt ist das Menschengeschlect&quot; describes the problem with the dating schemes typically associated with Neanderthal studies:
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Mueller-Karpe, the first name in continental paleoanthropology, wrote thirty years ago on the two strata of homo erectus at Swanscombe/England: &quot;A difference between the tools in the upper and in the lower stratum is not recognizable. (From a geological point of view it is uncertain if between the two strata there passed decades, centuries or millennia.) (Handbuch der Vorgeschichte, Vol I, Munich 1966, p. 293).



The outstanding scholar never returned to this hint that in reality there may have passed ten years where the textbooks enlist one thousand years. Yet, I tried to follow this thread. I went to the stratigraphies of the Old Stone Age which usually look as follows


modern man (homo sapiens sapiens)


Neanderthal man (homo sapiens neanderthalensis)


Homo erectus (invents fire and is considered the first intelligent man).


In my book &quot;Wie alt ist das Menschengeschlecht?&quot; [How Ancient is Man?], 1996, 2nd edition, I focused for Neanderthal man on his best preserved stratigraphy: Combe Grenal in France. Within 4 m of debris it exhibited 55 strata dated conventionally between -90,000 and -30,000. Roughly one millennium was thus assigned to some 7 cm of debris per stratum. Close scrutiny had revealed that most strata were only used in the summer. Thus, ca. one thousand summers were assigned to each stratum. If, however, the site lay idle in winter and spring one would have expected substratification. Ideally, one would look for one thousand substrata for the one thousand summers. Yet, not even two substrata were discovered in any of the strata. They themselves were the substrata in the 4 m stratigraphy. They, thus, were not good for 60,000 but only for 55 years.


I tested this assumption with the tool count. According to the Binfords research--done on North American Indians--each tribal adult has at least five tool kits with some eight tools in each of them. At every time 800 tools existed in a band of 20 adults. Assuming that each tool lasted an entire generation (15 female years), Combe Grenals 4,000 generations in 60,000 years should have produced some 3.2 million tools. By going closer to the actual life time of flint tools tens of millions of tools would have to be expected for Combe Grenal. Ony 19,000 (nineteen thousand) remains of tools, however, were found by the excavators.


There seems to be no way out but to cut down the age of Neanderthal man at Combe Grenal from some 60,000 to some 60 years.


I applied the stratigraphical approach to the best caves in Europe for the entire time from Erectus to the Iron Age and reached at the following tentative chronology for intelligent man:


-600 onwards Iron Age
-900 onwards Bronze Age
-1400 beginning of modern man (homo sapiens sapiens)
-1500 beginning of Neanderthal man
between -2000 and -1600 beginning of Erectus.



Since Erectus only left the two poor strata like at Swanscombe or El-Castillo/Spain, he should actually not have lasted longer than Neanderthal-may be one average life expectancy. I will now not go into the mechanism of mutation. All I want to remind you of is the undisputed sequence of interstratification and monostratification in the master stratigraphies. This allows for one solution only: Parents of the former developmental stage of man lived together with their own offspring in the same cave stratum until they died out. They were not massacred as textbooks have it:


monostrat.: only modern man`s tools

interstrat.: Neanderthal man`s and modern man`s tools side by side

monostrat.: only Neanderthal man`s tools

interstrat.: Neanderthal man`s and Erectus tools side by side

monotstrat.: only Erectus tools (deepest stratum for intelligent man)

The year figures certainly sound bewildering. Yet, so far nobody came up with any stratigraphy justifiably demanding more time than I tentatively assigned to the age of intelligent man. I always remind my critiques that one millennium is an enormous time span--more than from William the Conqueror to today`s Anglo-World. To add a millenium to human history should always go together with sufficient material remains to show for it. I will not even mention the easiness with which scholars add a million years to the history of man until they made Lucy 4 million years old. The time-span-madness is the last residue of Darwinism.
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Vatican throws light on history as it opens secret archives

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The priceless documents span more than a millennium, from the 8th century to modern times, and feature a cast of historical characters ranging from the Knights Templar to Galileo, Martin Luther and Henry VIII.
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Nice find Feather.hf
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Heinsohn is not putting an exact age on the Neanderthal die-out; what he IS stating is that there is no legitimate interpretation of existing evidence which would indicate that they died out any more than four or five thousand years ago and that is basically consistent with the thing about raw dinosaur meat.

That of course is nowhere remotely close to the time frames which any sort of an evolutionary scheme of modern man from hominids would require. We are left with three basic choices:

Modern man was created here from scratch, and recently.
Modern man was brought here from somewhere else in the cosmos.
Modern man was genetically re-engineered from one of the hominids, most likely the Neanderthal.



Those are your three basic choices and none of them involve evolution. Moreover the second and third choices merely amount to kicking the can a block or two down the road as far as how anything like modern man ever came into existence anywhere in the universe at all since the the same mathematical and probabilistic laws which prevent macroevolution on this planet would hold true anywhere else. The 17B years which supposedly intervene since the Big Bang(TM) wouldn`t be enough for modern man to evolve in the universe even if that were possible which it isn`t, and even if the Big Bang idea itself weren`t just another bunch of BS like evolution, which it is.
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Modern man was genetically re-engineered from one of the hominids, most likely the Neanderthal.

maybe we transformed ourselves in synchronization to and within the cooperation of our environment

that fits
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Hi Blue!hf

I'm very much interested in Templars and Galileo...hope there is something new there to be discovered...





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