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aether User ID: 1412926 United Kingdom 02/14/2012 04:44 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Man, there are is so much stuff here to respond to. Quoting: sickscent1. Are there image overlays going on between the units and ourselves? Or, are we/they seeing accurate recreations of each others transference of structure (shape) , effects, intelligence, color, smell, feelings and emotions, etc. There has to be at least a small percentage of mental overlays going on. 2. Its a big ass universe. From curiosities sake, it would be an incredible experience to divine origins of other units. 3. There are too many gaps in this information to form anything from it. 4. Understood. 5.,6. Individuality is very comfortable when that is what we are formed from in material. Invasion of one's field of awareness can be an uncomfortable feeling, not only for humans, but for other beings/units as well. I would think this amounts to 'respect' in the non-material. God, if this is a close analogy of dream state, what would occur if someone that has near full control of dream states was placed there? (hehehe!) What would be the capabilities of a unit/human that has mastered lucid dreaming be over there? mental overlays i hear this often but i can never imagine doing it but i have experienced often the invitation to become as another and if it feels nice i do now when i say another i am never talking human and often not really talking shaped intelligence but intelligence who`s nature and personality fits mine thus it like magnification or rather it`s me with a natural elements abilities matching my own but scaled up to the scale of the element`s capacity these are what i refer to as natural archetypes and i can not imagine a natural archetype i don`t fit it never last longer than the purpose desired to achieve but it does alter my personality to the degree any achievement does quite natural and normal, one alters with experience i can never imagine overlaying something but i do magnify others i know and i enjoy their experience (feedback) of the magnification which in the case of human interaction prompts/inspires me also it`s like you both or the group get cleverer with them steering the topics/events and me benefiting and feeding back my responses to their information that`s my experiences of "mental overlays" |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 865798 United States 02/14/2012 04:48 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Ah, I think I know where you were going with that question, aether. Quoting: SickScent This answer would be more appropriate in context. You would begin accessing deeper levels of consciousness. well that`s a good analogy, deeper into the living "god" and if we forget the technical s for the moment but concentrate on the "principles" the entering our non material dimensions relates to the analogy of dream state 1. real to us when within them because the units that occupy that space within the dimension(s) possess structure (shape) , effects, intelligence, color, smell, feelings and emotions all of which are transmitting thus effecting us just as ours are to them 2. now the question where do these units originate from has infinite answers because the dimensions are, as you correctly tell, correlated to our material dimension thus throughout our infinite material universe, everything that possess "consciousness" is accessing the same non material dimensions as us 3. as a rule of thumb establishing ones awareness with "all else" but yourself whilst alive and conscious in the material dimension forms comfort within the non material dimensions not only for yourself but for other units that are accessing the same dimensions 4. because all other units accessing immediately detect you and the dimension(s) are familiar within a relationship between yourselves and because all all other units also have their own "one to one" relationship, they acknowledge yours thus no misunderstandings arise 5. back to your analogy of deeper levels of consciousness remembering our non material dimensions form and sustain our material dimension this "consciousness" possess the ability to maintain simultaneous individual interaction with all material units possessing consciousness within the material domain 6. thus when one goes deeper into this consciousness it is that individual relationship that features most prominently for both ones own comfort and the comfort of the other units within the same domain it dictates the quality of signals you send Man, there are is so much stuff here to respond to. 1. Are there image overlays going on between the units and ourselves? Or, are we/they seeing accurate recreations of each others transference of structure (shape) , effects, intelligence, color, smell, feelings and emotions, etc. There has to be at least a small percentage of mental overlays going on. 2. Its a big ass universe. From curiosities sake, it would be an incredible experience to divine origins of other units. 3. There are too many gaps in this information to form anything from it. 4. Understood. 5.,6. Individuality is very comfortable when that is what we are formed from in material. Invasion of one's field of awareness can be an uncomfortable feeling, not only for humans, but for other beings/units as well. I would think this amounts to 'respect' in the non-material. God, if this is a close analogy of dream state, what would occur if someone that has near full control of dream states was placed there? (hehehe!) What would be the capabilities of a unit/human that has mastered lucid dreaming be over there? So interesting to think about... wow you have sparked up dream analogy first i used the analogy to dreaming in this context: we can see that our aura span is like a heliosphere/magnetosphere, filtering the non material domains whilst dominated by our presence/field Quoting: aetherlikewise our earths magnetosphere filters as does our suns heliosphere but really the non material dimensions are open emotive, sensation domains thus know thy self takes on vital meaning not sure filters the right word actually because it is more complex than that our auras are almost always run by our unconscious thus "communication" is 24/7 and mostly unnoticed dreaming occurs within our aura domain/personal field which we dominate and dreams are "managed" by our subconscious therefore any units entering our field are aware of it`s dominate force and may or may not be real, dependent on the "management system" our subconscious is operating remember our subconscious maintains on average 95 to 98% of our intelligent functions and what it feels is right for us is often not what we are consciously aware we are in need of this particularly applies to dreams that being said, lucid dreaming is exactly what you tell, "training " for non material dimensions as long as one has 24/7 control in dream state which translates to, awareness, at any point desired, it is a dream and instant pull out/wake up ability, that is control lucid dreaming is an extension of that facility in our non material dimensions two things are different from dream state you are awake/conscious it is not your dominant domain nor is it the dominant domain of anything else you may discover within it There is some overlapping going on in your thoughts... Our domain is our aura, our own personal heliosphere. Our dreaming occurs within that area. Of course, that is our field that our 'consciousness' exists within. Our subconscious relegates this region of our existence almost completely. Now, we get to your overlaps. 24/7 control of dream state allows you to control pull/out. Basic awareness of 'where you're at' at any point. Basically, you don't fall out of lucidity (which I don't anymore. I lucid dream for hours and hours and hours pretty much each night, with no need to ever remind me that I am dreaming...I just constantly know) Then, you say lucid dreaming is an extension of that facility. That doesn't 'fit' in. What does it mean that it is not 'your dominant domain'? |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 865798 United States 02/14/2012 04:51 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Its a big ass universe. From curiosities sake, it would be an incredible experience to divine origins of other units. Quoting: sickscentthe only intelligence i have ever experienced raising that topic is human nothing else has ever done so I wonder about Mantis. I wonder about non-material entities in my altered states. I wonder about Greys. Etc. Perhaps your use of the term 'units' is throwing me off. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 865798 United States 02/14/2012 04:55 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Man, there are is so much stuff here to respond to. Quoting: sickscent1. Are there image overlays going on between the units and ourselves? Or, are we/they seeing accurate recreations of each others transference of structure (shape) , effects, intelligence, color, smell, feelings and emotions, etc. There has to be at least a small percentage of mental overlays going on. 2. Its a big ass universe. From curiosities sake, it would be an incredible experience to divine origins of other units. 3. There are too many gaps in this information to form anything from it. 4. Understood. 5.,6. Individuality is very comfortable when that is what we are formed from in material. Invasion of one's field of awareness can be an uncomfortable feeling, not only for humans, but for other beings/units as well. I would think this amounts to 'respect' in the non-material. God, if this is a close analogy of dream state, what would occur if someone that has near full control of dream states was placed there? (hehehe!) What would be the capabilities of a unit/human that has mastered lucid dreaming be over there? mental overlays i hear this often but i can never imagine doing it but i have experienced often the invitation to become as another and if it feels nice i do now when i say another i am never talking human and often not really talking shaped intelligence but intelligence who`s nature and personality fits mine thus it like magnification or rather it`s me with a natural elements abilities matching my own but scaled up to the scale of the element`s capacity these are what i refer to as natural archetypes and i can not imagine a natural archetype i don`t fit it never last longer than the purpose desired to achieve but it does alter my personality to the degree any achievement does quite natural and normal, one alters with experience i can never imagine overlaying something but i do magnify others i know and i enjoy their experience (feedback) of the magnification which in the case of human interaction prompts/inspires me also it`s like you both or the group get cleverer with them steering the topics/events and me benefiting and feeding back my responses to their information that`s my experiences of "mental overlays" I have had Greys (I think) create image overlays in my mind. I asked them to turn it off, and I would see him as he normally would. Asked him to turn it back on, and I saw him as this good looking brunette. But, this was in an altered state, so I do not know how 'real' it was. I discussed this with Dionysis. What ends up being true reality...what is really 'real'? |
aether User ID: 1412926 United Kingdom 02/14/2012 04:59 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | There is some overlapping going on in your thoughts... Quoting: sickscentOur domain is our aura, our own personal heliosphere. Our dreaming occurs within that area. Of course, that is our field that our 'consciousness' exists within. Our subconscious relegates this region of our existence almost completely. Now, we get to your overlaps. 24/7 control of dream state allows you to control pull/out. Basic awareness of 'where you're at' at any point. Basically, you don't fall out of lucidity (which I don't anymore. I lucid dream for hours and hours and hours pretty much each night, with no need to ever remind me that I am dreaming...I just constantly know) Then, you say lucid dreaming is an extension of that facility. That doesn't 'fit' in. What does it mean that it is not 'your dominant domain'? well maybe i am unaware what lucid dreaming is because i have never done it i imagine it to be the ability to do tasks within dream state whist aware one is dreaming and as such it is very clever "training" for non material that is what i detect of lucid dreaming for me i dream and if i desire i awaken the prompt is always something within the dream that prompts me to stop the dream and awaken and always it is a conscious decision within the dream i interrupt my subconscious always for the same reason, so it`s rare a human with ability effecting my dream the non material dimensions are unlike our dream domain our dream domain is within our own field of influence the non material dimension is the same a here on earth nothing dominates the dimension all is equal to be there |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 865798 United States 02/14/2012 05:09 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | There is some overlapping going on in your thoughts... Quoting: sickscentOur domain is our aura, our own personal heliosphere. Our dreaming occurs within that area. Of course, that is our field that our 'consciousness' exists within. Our subconscious relegates this region of our existence almost completely. Now, we get to your overlaps. 24/7 control of dream state allows you to control pull/out. Basic awareness of 'where you're at' at any point. Basically, you don't fall out of lucidity (which I don't anymore. I lucid dream for hours and hours and hours pretty much each night, with no need to ever remind me that I am dreaming...I just constantly know) Then, you say lucid dreaming is an extension of that facility. That doesn't 'fit' in. What does it mean that it is not 'your dominant domain'? well maybe i am unaware what lucid dreaming is because i have never done it i imagine it to be the ability to do tasks within dream state whist aware one is dreaming and as such it is very clever "training" for non material that is what i detect of lucid dreaming for me i dream and if i desire i awaken the prompt is always something within the dream that prompts me to stop the dream and awaken and always it is a conscious decision within the dream i interrupt my subconscious always for the same reason, so it`s rare a human with ability effecting my dream the non material dimensions are unlike our dream domain our dream domain is within our own field of influence the non material dimension is the same a here on earth nothing dominates the dimension all is equal to be there You are absolutely correct with the brief lucid dreaming explanation. Though, I have begun to realize how unique I am in this perspective, in how thoroughly I seemed to have mastered it, and how I can control it. There are many, many different 'states' of lucid dreams. To the extent that I cannot even consider many of them 'dreams', because they are truly not just dreams. The bold above...now I understand what you are saying. What would happen if an individual that had such control over their dream environment, and consciousness be able to do with consciously awake involvement in the non-material if the non-material is similar to the dream state? |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 10561448 United States 02/14/2012 05:26 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | no spells from ancients...spell is from the one you warned me would cast and had knowledge to do so.... Quoting: ebrah Explain yourself, soldier! sorry SS...from past experience...truth here does no good...not talking about your thread Aether...GLP in general Again...I wish you well on that interview....can't wait to hear it.... |
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aether User ID: 1412926 United Kingdom 02/14/2012 05:29 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I have had Greys (I think) create image overlays in my mind. I asked them to turn it off, and I would see him as he normally would. Asked him to turn it back on, and I saw him as this good looking brunette. But, this was in an altered state, so I do not know how 'real' it was. I discussed this with Dionysis. What ends up being true reality...what is really 'real'? Quoting: sickscenti once said maybe i have a personality fault but it is never what i am listening to, it`s always how it conducts it`self and what it says, i respond to remembering that my experiences are only when i`m awake/conscious thus i have never imagined "is this real" because i am conscious and i know it`s real yes i`m thinking not one question mark on real or not |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 865798 United States 02/14/2012 05:29 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | no spells from ancients...spell is from the one you warned me would cast and had knowledge to do so.... Quoting: ebrah Explain yourself, soldier! sorry SS...from past experience...truth here does no good...not talking about your thread Aether...GLP in general Again...I wish you well on that interview....can't wait to hear it.... :busythumb: |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 865798 United States 02/14/2012 05:30 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I have had Greys (I think) create image overlays in my mind. I asked them to turn it off, and I would see him as he normally would. Asked him to turn it back on, and I saw him as this good looking brunette. But, this was in an altered state, so I do not know how 'real' it was. I discussed this with Dionysis. What ends up being true reality...what is really 'real'? Quoting: sickscenti once said maybe i have a personality fault but it is never what i am listening to, it`s always how it conducts it`self and what it says, i respond to remembering that my experiences are only when i`m awake/conscious thus i have never imagined "is this real" because i am conscious and i know it`s real yes i`m thinking not one question mark on real or not That is very strange...you should get yourself checked out. j/k |
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aether User ID: 1412926 United Kingdom 02/14/2012 05:35 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You are absolutely correct with the brief lucid dreaming explanation. Though, I have begun to realize how unique I am in this perspective, in how thoroughly I seemed to have mastered it, and how I can control it. There are many, many different 'states' of lucid dreams. To the extent that I cannot even consider many of them 'dreams', because they are truly not just dreams. Quoting: sickscentThe bold above...now I understand what you are saying. What would happen if an individual that had such control over their dream environment, and consciousness be able to do with consciously awake involvement in the non-material if the non-material is similar to the dream state? i agree sickscent and i realize that my conversation on this topic is biased because when i say lucid dreaming is training i picking that up from you i wondered why it came out so strong but it is true your "friends" are getting you ready for what you desire is how it feels haha and it feels good for you this i confirm |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 1037270 United States 02/14/2012 05:43 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You are absolutely correct with the brief lucid dreaming explanation. Though, I have begun to realize how unique I am in this perspective, in how thoroughly I seemed to have mastered it, and how I can control it. There are many, many different 'states' of lucid dreams. To the extent that I cannot even consider many of them 'dreams', because they are truly not just dreams. Quoting: sickscentThe bold above...now I understand what you are saying. What would happen if an individual that had such control over their dream environment, and consciousness be able to do with consciously awake involvement in the non-material if the non-material is similar to the dream state? i agree sickscent and i realize that my conversation on this topic is biased because when i say lucid dreaming is training i picking that up from you i wondered why it came out so strong but it is true your "friends" are getting you ready for what you desire is how it feels haha and it feels good for you this i confirm My inner control freak loves lucid dreaming... I make her shut up sometimes because I honestly love to see what my subconscious pulls out of the closet whilst I sleep. I like to see how it all plays out, the symbolism my mind chooses while I'm aware that I'm unaware. But then I've already been through basic... just waiting for the prime time roll out so no one takes me to the rubber room, lmao :) I will own the advantage of everyone in my immediate environment allowing me room to be crazy/eccentric/strange. If I suddenly became "normal", I think that would be the point they'd cart me off, lol. (edited for a spellcheck, lol) |
aether User ID: 1412926 United Kingdom 02/14/2012 05:48 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You are absolutely correct with the brief lucid dreaming explanation. Though, I have begun to realize how unique I am in this perspective, in how thoroughly I seemed to have mastered it, and how I can control it. There are many, many different 'states' of lucid dreams. To the extent that I cannot even consider many of them 'dreams', because they are truly not just dreams. Quoting: sickscentThe bold above...now I understand what you are saying. What would happen if an individual that had such control over their dream environment, and consciousness be able to do with consciously awake involvement in the non-material if the non-material is similar to the dream state? i agree sickscent and i realize that my conversation on this topic is biased because when i say lucid dreaming is training i picking that up from you i wondered why it came out so strong but it is true your "friends" are getting you ready for what you desire is how it feels haha and it feels good for you this i confirm My inner control freak loves lucid dreaming... I make her shut up sometimes because I honestly love to see what my subconscious pulls out of the closet whilst I sleep. I like to see how it all plays out, the symbolism my mind chooses while I'm aware that I'm unaware. But then I've already been through basic... just waiting for the prime time roll out so no one takes me to the rubber room, lmao :) I will own the advantage of everyone in my immediate environment allowing me room to be crazy/eccentric/strange. If I suddenly became "normal", I think that would be the point they'd cart me off, lol. (edited for a spellcheck, lol) miss golden orb "all bets are off " she said with a smile |
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