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and notice something when you are shown a neanderthal
it prompts ancestral fear as in:
strikes a cord
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Wow, that documentary inspired me to go hunting. Cheers
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mr fearless rockon
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LOL...... or Mr Neandrathal
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Male/Female interaction as the Hot/Cool of the Electron/Proton.

Hot jagged flash of lightning across a cool Moon and plasmic void.

The original Sin( Moon) and inception and conception (electron to ground).

Male majic is a slight twist of vertical (y-axis) torsional field. Female from twist of (x-axis) ground, the void. (360(360^360)) expressions of potential. Magnetic interpolation and inductive being deduced from that (aether) just above null zero.


The dream fights to stay hot and dynamic and words do little to tie it down.

Time and gravity are induced and suffused into twisting vortical being as densities and quite apart.

Salts (alkaline) and Sugars acid create twisting magnetic battery in void. Trapped in the insulators of lipids and proteins to create enduring form.


Still an incomplete thunk.


Thread: Conciousness, filters and the eschatological age (Page 14)
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Congrats, you have discovered that Newton`s 3rd Law, aka Lenz`s Law is bullshit.
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Male/Female interaction as the Hot/Cool of the Electron/Proton.

Hot jagged flash of lightning across a cool Moon and plasmic void.

The original Sin( Moon) and inception and conception (electron to ground).

Male majic is a slight twist of vertical (y-axis) torsional field. Female from twist of (x-axis) ground, the void. (360(360^360)) expressions of potential. Magnetic interpolation and inductive being deduced from that (aether) just above null zero.


The dream fights to stay hot and dynamic and words do little to tie it down.

Time and gravity are induced and suffused into twisting vortical being as densities and quite apart.

Salts (alkaline) and Sugars acid create twisting magnetic battery in void. Trapped in the insulators of lipids and proteins to create enduring form.


Still an incomplete thunk.


Thread: Conciousness, filters and the eschatological age (Page 14)
 Quoting: Dionysian Fullaflatus


you have taken me to our past:

>>>>>well spotted

>>>>>can we become a tornado , well ......

Maybe we already are tornados and we just don't know it yet.
 Quoting: peanut 13516


keeping that in mind whilst discovering what was in the minds of our more recent ancestors, the hebrews, babylonians and egyptians etc...............

Ningishzida

Ningishzida is the earliest known symbol of snakes twining (some (One Greek myth of origin of the caduceus is part of the story of Tiresias, who found two snakes copulating and killed the female with his staff. ) say [copulation]][who?]) around an axial rod. It predates the Caduceus of Hermes, the Rod of Asclepius and the staff of Moses by more than a millennium.
 Quoting: observation

[link to en.wikipedia.org]
 Quoting: aether


Woah...
 Quoting: ArunaLuna


place yourself in the mind of our ancient ancestors whom still possessed some awareness of what we call electricity

i say some awareness because by the time of moses and people like that, electricity had become the symbol of god and whomever possessed ability to utilize it was considered chosen by god to do so

The spin positions of the Aether in which electrons and protons exist, as well as the electrons and protons themselves, could be described as having a snake-like appearance. We could even describe the electrons as female snakes, and protons as male snakes. A magic wand (conductive metal) placed between the snakes would encourage the two to climb aboard the wand and unite.

Nobody really knows where the caduceus originated, its origin being so far back in time. But we do know that it has been a part of many ancient cultures. We also know that the caduceus was a staff carried by Hermes (also known as Mercury), as he flew across great distances, at great speed, carrying his messages. Isn’t it rather fortuitous that thousands of years ago a mythical god carried messages at great speeds across great distances and holding a staff, which modern science can interpret as electricity? What great luck! It sounds like Hermes could be a modern symbol for radio transmission, or even the World Wide Web.

So is it really a myth? Electricity was known thousands of years ago, and ancient cities of grand proportions are being discovered on land and under sea that hasn’t been above water in over 11,500 years
 Quoting: observation

 Quoting: aether

Thread: BIBLE UNVEILED.. !!!!: The Hidden Story in the Stars. (Page 10)

......all of whom are survivors/ancestors of much older cultures

why did they consider electricity to be the manifestation of god and how did this attitude fit the purpose of surviving structures of their past they lived within but as today, did not possess memory for how these structures functioned or how their own social structures once functioned within them
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Thread: SAINT LOUIS ~ syncroni ~ €it¥ , Missouri (Page 19)

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Male/Female interaction as the Hot/Cool of the Electron/Proton.

Hot jagged flash of lightning across a cool Moon and plasmic void.

The original Sin( Moon) and inception and conception (electron to ground).

Male majic is a slight twist of vertical (y-axis) torsional field. Female from twist of (x-axis) ground, the void. (360(360^360)) expressions of potential. Magnetic interpolation and inductive being deduced from that (aether) just above null zero.


The dream fights to stay hot and dynamic and words do little to tie it down.

Time and gravity are induced and suffused into twisting vortical being as densities and quite apart.

Salts (alkaline) and Sugars acid create twisting magnetic battery in void. Trapped in the insulators of lipids and proteins to create enduring form.


Still an incomplete thunk.


Thread: Conciousness, filters and the eschatological age (Page 14)
 Quoting: Dionysian Fullaflatus


you have taken me to our past:

>>>>>well spotted

>>>>>can we become a tornado , well ......

Maybe we already are tornados and we just don't know it yet.
 Quoting: peanut 13516


keeping that in mind whilst discovering what was in the minds of our more recent ancestors, the hebrews, babylonians and egyptians etc...............

Ningishzida

Ningishzida is the earliest known symbol of snakes twining (some (One Greek myth of origin of the caduceus is part of the story of Tiresias, who found two snakes copulating and killed the female with his staff. ) say [copulation]][who?]) around an axial rod. It predates the Caduceus of Hermes, the Rod of Asclepius and the staff of Moses by more than a millennium.
 Quoting: observation

[link to en.wikipedia.org]
 Quoting: aether


Woah...
 Quoting: ArunaLuna


place yourself in the mind of our ancient ancestors whom still possessed some awareness of what we call electricity

i say some awareness because by the time of moses and people like that, electricity had become the symbol of god and whomever possessed ability to utilize it was considered chosen by god to do so

The spin positions of the Aether in which electrons and protons exist, as well as the electrons and protons themselves, could be described as having a snake-like appearance. We could even describe the electrons as female snakes, and protons as male snakes. A magic wand (conductive metal) placed between the snakes would encourage the two to climb aboard the wand and unite.

Nobody really knows where the caduceus originated, its origin being so far back in time. But we do know that it has been a part of many ancient cultures. We also know that the caduceus was a staff carried by Hermes (also known as Mercury), as he flew across great distances, at great speed, carrying his messages. Isn’t it rather fortuitous that thousands of years ago a mythical god carried messages at great speeds across great distances and holding a staff, which modern science can interpret as electricity? What great luck! It sounds like Hermes could be a modern symbol for radio transmission, or even the World Wide Web.

So is it really a myth? Electricity was known thousands of years ago, and ancient cities of grand proportions are being discovered on land and under sea that hasn’t been above water in over 11,500 years
 Quoting: observation

 Quoting: aether

Thread: BIBLE UNVEILED.. !!!!: The Hidden Story in the Stars. (Page 10)

......all of whom are survivors/ancestors of much older cultures

why did they consider electricity to be the manifestation of god and how did this attitude fit the purpose of surviving structures of their past they lived within but as today, did not possess memory for how these structures functioned or how their own social structures once functioned within them
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Thread: SAINT LOUIS ~ syncroni ~ €it¥ , Missouri (Page 19)
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Read the rest as I'm still trying to grapple with some volatile dreamtime experiences that are based on entangling suns, Keplers nesting and veils of conciousness as cubes of entrapping densities and subsequent flows.

Thank god I'm quite sane and seek to balance all these vivid images into a cantilevered road to..........?
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Thread: Conciousness, filters and the eschatological age (Page 14)
Weird scenes from inside the Goldmine

A Vision of Keplers nested Platonic solids and the Idea that they never amounted to much.

4, 8, 12, 20

faces with names and elements:

fire, air, aether, water

Nested within the cube.

earth

The vertex configuration of the cube is 4.4.4 (64)


2 axis figure prominently.

The 4 souls of the Egyptian mystery schools and three veils (4.4.4).

Ka-the etheric double.

Ba-Astral soul

Semi divine-saha

Divine soul-eternal and immutable.

Frequency of form and the Orphic egg.

The oil of Morpheus poured in.

Computational potential (360 (360^360))

Aether is neutral medium holding null, minimal density, minimal potential charge.

As a spiral toroid occurs by the twisting of aether(plasmic field) it induces a vortices. All matter is caused by the magnetic spiral twisting of space(aether).

It creates tension and like particles accrete and balance or twist further creating densities with formulation of dimension.

This is all modelled by the suns electric/magnetic/torsional fields. They induce and create form as they twist and are subsumed and assumed as they become unstable. Positronic/electronic force is made gas(plasma)

These are the realizations of dreaming universe.

A nightly interloper, dream and you channel the universe.
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Excellent thunk here, Dionysian.

I like this, because I can directly relate to much of it through personal experience while playing in the dream world...whatever that place truly is.

Platonic Solids are attracted mass spheres/toroids set in closest proximity to each other.

VERTEX configuration eludes me.

Because of initial stable torus form, which can only exist as it does because: charge/field/angular momentum (motion) and it's 'forces' of charge (+/-), field (attraction/repulsion) and angular momentum (motion in accordance with charge/field interaction)

3 veils with 4 souls per veil...4 souls are below...what are the 3 veils? Trinity of charge/field/motion? With each veil having 4 souls?

4 souls:
Ka-the etheric double.

Ba-Astral soul

Semi divine-saha

Divine soul-eternal and immutable.


4 souls are gradients, not truly divided, but overlapping.

Frequency of form = the shape and properties of which is the Orphic Egg: Correct?

Oil of Morpheus = dew...consciousness: Correct?

Aether is potential of mass (form/function). It is a dormant charge/field. A motion occurs that starts the twist that can only remain stable as described above, with the Trinity. The Trinity all happens at once. As soon as charge arrives, field arrives with it, and neither of these can exist without the motion which instantly becomes angular because of charge and field.

So, charge cannot exist without field, and vice-versa, and neither of the two can exist without motion, which is always angular. All of them are a locked piece.

Any further of this original is the life of complexity. Everything 'bleeds' off this original and creates other 'forces' to manifest, most importantly tensor forces. Tensor forces create the dimensional aspect you described above.



These are the realizations of dreaming universe.

A nightly interloper, dream and you channel the universe.



And so it seems I have...
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sorry if you already covered this...

[link to www.independent.co.uk]
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sorry if you already covered this...

[link to www.independent.co.uk]
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The atomic clocks used in the study are based on the tiny vibrations of aluminium atoms trapped in an electric field. These vibrations are in the same frequency range of ultraviolet light, detected by lasers, which effectively means that the atomic timepieces are optical clocks, accurate enough to measure billionths of a second and to keep time accurately over millions of years.
 Quoting: observation


okay that is what the clock is detecting , motion of light

Einstein's theory of relativity states that time and space are not as constant as everyday life would suggest. He suggested that the only true constant, the speed of light, meant that time can run faster or slower depending on how high you are, and how fast you are traveling.
 Quoting: observation


so einstein decided that light always traveled at the same velocity thus any changes must be the environment and not light

found that when they monitored two such clocks positioned just a foot apart in height above sea level, they found that time really does run more quickly the higher you are
 Quoting: observation


the force of gravity is strongest on the surface and reduces as you arise from the surface
light is less effected (slowed) by gravity as you arise from the surface hence it travels faster thus shown in the experiment
because light went faster the measurement between light signals (frequency range of ultraviolet light) shortened thus the measure symbol (time) was less

in other words the velocity of light is governed by the environment it travels through and not the information contained within light
light is a carrier of information, not it`s own master (constant)

the alternative is to pretend time is a dimension as in:
a separate non material structure that units (material structures) exist within

i don`t believe anyone would imagine the word time as a dimension
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sorry if you already covered this...

[link to www.independent.co.uk]
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The atomic clocks used in the study are based on the tiny vibrations of aluminium atoms trapped in an electric field. These vibrations are in the same frequency range of ultraviolet light, detected by lasers, which effectively means that the atomic timepieces are optical clocks, accurate enough to measure billionths of a second and to keep time accurately over millions of years.
 Quoting: observation


okay that is what the clock is detecting , motion of light

Einstein's theory of relativity states that time and space are not as constant as everyday life would suggest. He suggested that the only true constant, the speed of light, meant that time can run faster or slower depending on how high you are, and how fast you are traveling.
 Quoting: observation


so einstein decided that light always traveled at the same velocity thus any changes must be the environment and not light

found that when they monitored two such clocks positioned just a foot apart in height above sea level, they found that time really does run more quickly the higher you are
 Quoting: observation


the force of gravity is strongest on the surface and reduces as you arise from the surface
light is less effected (slowed) by gravity as you arise from the surface hence it travels faster thus shown in the experiment
because light went faster the measurement between light signals (frequency range of ultraviolet light) shortened thus the measure symbol (time) was less

in other words the velocity of light is governed by the environment it travels through and not the information contained within light
light is a carrier of information, not it`s own master (constant)

the alternative is to pretend time is a dimension as in:
a separate non material structure that units (material structures) exist within

i don`t believe anyone would imagine the word time as a dimension
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This is something that I haven't quite grasped...and I should have by now.

Light is a constant. But, it can slow down?

How about this. Light is a constant, but because of gravity, the light 'bends' which means it takes longer to travel from point A to B, because it is not a straight line.

I cannot believe I haven't looked into this yet. I need to today, as it effects everything within it's environment.

We have always generalized about light being constant, but here it is slowing down because of gravity...

hmm
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General Relativity

Einstein went on to discover a more general theory of relativity which explained gravity in terms of curved spacetime, and he talked about the speed of light changing in this new theory. In the 1920 book "Relativity: the special and general theory" he wrote: . . . according to the general theory of relativity, the law of the constancy of the velocity of light in vacuo, which constitutes one of the two fundamental assumptions in the special theory of relativity [. . .] cannot claim any unlimited validity. A curvature of rays of light can only take place when the velocity of propagation of light varies with position. Since Einstein talks of velocity (a vector quantity: speed with direction) rather than speed alone, it is not clear that he meant the speed will change, but the reference to special relativity suggests that he did mean so. This interpretation is perfectly valid and makes good physical sense, but a more modern interpretation is that the speed of light is constant in general relativity.

[link to math.ucr.edu]


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I just don't get this. Remember the observation rule. No matter the speed or position of the observer, light always appears to be traveling at c velocity to that observer.

So, we are seeing an effect outside of its environs, as we are not the initial observer of the 'clocks'. The initial observer of the clocks are the one's within the light environ...ie, the clocks.
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General Relativity

Einstein went on to discover a more general theory of relativity which explained gravity in terms of curved spacetime, and he talked about the speed of light changing in this new theory. In the 1920 book "Relativity: the special and general theory" he wrote: . . . according to the general theory of relativity, the law of the constancy of the velocity of light in vacuo, which constitutes one of the two fundamental assumptions in the special theory of relativity [. . .] cannot claim any unlimited validity. A curvature of rays of light can only take place when the velocity of propagation of light varies with position. Since Einstein talks of velocity (a vector quantity: speed with direction) rather than speed alone, it is not clear that he meant the speed will change, but the reference to special relativity suggests that he did mean so. This interpretation is perfectly valid and makes good physical sense, but a more modern interpretation is that the speed of light is constant in general relativity.

[link to math.ucr.edu]


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I just don't get this. Remember the observation rule. No matter the speed or position of the observer, light always appears to be traveling at c velocity to that observer.

So, we are seeing an effect outside of its environs, as we are not the initial observer of the 'clocks'. The initial observer of the clocks are the one's within the light environ...ie, the clocks.
 Quoting: SickScent


In special relativity, the speed of light is constant when measured in any inertial frame. In general relativity, the appropriate generalisation is that the speed of light is constant in any freely falling reference frame (in a region small enough that tidal effects can be neglected).
[link to math.ucr.edu]


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So, the way I describe light is validated. Light exists everywhere, it is just in the 'background' of everything. When we measure light, we are not measuring 'light' because it is a constant. It is the make-up of everything, we just can't see it in the background, because we can't see anything that is super-luminal.

It is the manifested mass of aether that allows a 'break' in the window and allows light to shine through. NOT COME THROUGH, as it already exists everywhere and is everything. The Orphic Egg Dionysian just referenced is a 'kind of' visualization of the structure/function that allows light to be 'seen'.

gaah

This is part of Walter Russell's thoughts...but we are at the quantum mass manifestation level, and I am describing it as if it is already a manifestation of mass.

There needs to be words to describe this process better, this vision I have, which I believe parallels what Walter envisioned.
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I just don't get this. Remember the observation rule. No matter the speed or position of the observer, light always appears to be traveling at c velocity to that observer.

So, we are seeing an effect outside of its environs, as we are not the initial observer of the 'clocks'. The initial observer of the clocks are the one's within the light environ...ie, the clocks.
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hope the graph comes out
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This figure is what happens when the moving observer frame is moving to the left at the speed of light:

- 6 ____-5_____-4____-3_____-2_____ 1____0_____1_____2_____3_____4_____5_____6


-b_______________________-a __________c___________+a______________________+b


-c_______________________-c __________c____________________________________

This is what Einstein should have imagined, while "riding the light pulse." He imagined the situation on the left. Notice that he never imagined another observer in this moving frame, going the same direction, and meeting the outgoing pulse head on!

Both the observer and the origin "c" are traveling with the wave front on the left.

The top line depicts the rays of light expanding each direction from the strobe at 0. Imagine observers at each whole number. Each pair ("-" and "+") are equal distances from the origin, and both [ unique pairs of observers regardless which system] at that point in the expansion see the pulse at the same time. As the two directions of the pulse leave these observers, the pulse reaches the next pair of observers in line. The wave fronts of the pulse are traveling away from each other at 2 times the speed of light.

The middle line represents the second origin (moving @ the speed of light) at three positions in time, color coded. Black is t=0 nanoseconds, Red is t= 2nanoseconds, Blue is t=6 nanoseconds. Moving origin "c" was at +1 foot, at one nanosecond before the flash.

The bottom line shows where the "c"origin is when the "c" coordinate system is moving to the left at the speed of light.

Observers +a and -a are not symmetrical around the origin in "c." That is the whole point. If you look at the two axis lines they are symmetrical around the original origin. ["they" is referring to the observers in both systems: both the fixed with the source observers; and the "moving observers" except the moving observers see the duration of the pulse being shorter on the right side of the source: longer, to the point that the pulse cannot be seen, on the left side. Both sets of observers at a given point in nanosecond time are looking at the same wavefront edge in the source system]

At six nanoseconds "-b" and "+b" are symmetrical around the original origin, but again not around the "c" origin. There is no source in the moving coordinate system for the observers in that system to see. The "c" origin becomes a ghost point after the flash.

You have to keep in mind that the "c" coordinate system is moving to the left while the wave fronts are expanding (both to the left and right) in the original coordinate system. This is what the "Galilean Transform" does not consider.

If one does not examine one single light pulse one has no idea where it is in relation to other points of interest. The at rest with the strobe observers at a given distance will always have the same light latency. Moving observers have varying latencies since their distances are continually changing. If one does not understand that separate observers are required in ether/both systems, at each moment, to observe the single pulse, confusion reigns.

All that Albert is examining is the latency; or finite speed of a wave train over a given distance, which in the source frame, is measured at about a foot per nanosecond. He finds something magical in contemplating moving observers.

An observer in the source frame, that is an observer at rest with the source, will remain at the same distance from the source as the wave train washes over him/her. A pulse of light of 10 nanoseconds will be visible for 10 nanoseconds.

On the other hand, a moving observer traveling on a linear course through the source at 1/2 foot per nanosecond will find either that the duration of the light pulse is 5 nanoseconds approaching the wave train, as the wave train and the observer mutually move past each other; or a duration of 15 nanoseconds as the wave train washes over him/her from behind.

So, the truth is that a moving observer can experience apparent dilation of time or contraction of time just depending which direction the wave train's motion is relative the observer's motion! The change in the duration of the visible pulse has nothing to do with the shortening or lengthening of the distance between the start and end of the wave train!
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I know someone with Irish roots that has two stomachs...genetic mystery?
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Family story about a relative having 2 buttholes, never got the nerve to ask before he died....English line.
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I just don't get this. Remember the observation rule. No matter the speed or position of the observer, light always appears to be traveling at c velocity to that observer.

So, we are seeing an effect outside of its environs, as we are not the initial observer of the 'clocks'. The initial observer of the clocks are the one's within the light environ...ie, the clocks.
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hope the graph comes out
this feedback arrived yesterday and an hour ago
with you name on it tounge

This figure is what happens when the moving observer frame is moving to the left at the speed of light:

- 6 ____-5_____-4____-3_____-2_____ 1____0_____1_____2_____3_____4_____5_____6


-b_______________________-a __________c___________+a______________________+b


-c_______________________-c __________c____________________________________

This is what Einstein should have imagined, while "riding the light pulse." He imagined the situation on the left. Notice that he never imagined another observer in this moving frame, going the same direction, and meeting the outgoing pulse head on!

Both the observer and the origin "c" are traveling with the wave front on the left.

The top line depicts the rays of light expanding each direction from the strobe at 0. Imagine observers at each whole number. Each pair ("-" and "+") are equal distances from the origin, and both [ unique pairs of observers regardless which system] at that point in the expansion see the pulse at the same time. As the two directions of the pulse leave these observers, the pulse reaches the next pair of observers in line. The wave fronts of the pulse are traveling away from each other at 2 times the speed of light.

The middle line represents the second origin (moving @ the speed of light) at three positions in time, color coded. Black is t=0 nanoseconds, Red is t= 2nanoseconds, Blue is t=6 nanoseconds. Moving origin "c" was at +1 foot, at one nanosecond before the flash.

The bottom line shows where the "c"origin is when the "c" coordinate system is moving to the left at the speed of light.

Observers +a and -a are not symmetrical around the origin in "c." That is the whole point. If you look at the two axis lines they are symmetrical around the original origin. ["they" is referring to the observers in both systems: both the fixed with the source observers; and the "moving observers" except the moving observers see the duration of the pulse being shorter on the right side of the source: longer, to the point that the pulse cannot be seen, on the left side. Both sets of observers at a given point in nanosecond time are looking at the same wavefront edge in the source system]

At six nanoseconds "-b" and "+b" are symmetrical around the original origin, but again not around the "c" origin. There is no source in the moving coordinate system for the observers in that system to see. The "c" origin becomes a ghost point after the flash.

You have to keep in mind that the "c" coordinate system is moving to the left while the wave fronts are expanding (both to the left and right) in the original coordinate system. This is what the "Galilean Transform" does not consider.

If one does not examine one single light pulse one has no idea where it is in relation to other points of interest. The at rest with the strobe observers at a given distance will always have the same light latency. Moving observers have varying latencies since their distances are continually changing. If one does not understand that separate observers are required in ether/both systems, at each moment, to observe the single pulse, confusion reigns.

All that Albert is examining is the latency; or finite speed of a wave train over a given distance, which in the source frame, is measured at about a foot per nanosecond. He finds something magical in contemplating moving observers.

An observer in the source frame, that is an observer at rest with the source, will remain at the same distance from the source as the wave train washes over him/her. A pulse of light of 10 nanoseconds will be visible for 10 nanoseconds.

On the other hand, a moving observer traveling on a linear course through the source at 1/2 foot per nanosecond will find either that the duration of the light pulse is 5 nanoseconds approaching the wave train, as the wave train and the observer mutually move past each other; or a duration of 15 nanoseconds as the wave train washes over him/her from behind.

So, the truth is that a moving observer can experience apparent dilation of time or contraction of time just depending which direction the wave train's motion is relative the observer's motion! The change in the duration of the visible pulse has nothing to do with the shortening or lengthening of the distance between the start and end of the wave train!
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 Quoting: aether


Excellent. Looking forward to this. I'm in the middle of data entry at work, and I've got to get it done before I can put my mind into visual mode.

But FINALLY, something that discusses this beyond the rudimentary example given by Einstein. We are furthering the complexity, so we should arrive at a different place of understanding.
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and notice something when you are shown a neanderthal
it prompts ancestral fear as in:
strikes a cord
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I know someone with Irish roots that has two stomachs...genetic mystery?
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Family story about a relative having 2 buttholes, never got the nerve to ask before he died....English line.
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one way
two ways out
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Excellent. Looking forward to this. I'm in the middle of data entry at work, and I've got to get it done before I can put my mind into visual mode.

But FINALLY, something that discusses this beyond the rudimentary example given by Einstein. We are furthering the complexity, so we should arrive at a different place of understanding.
 Quoting: sickscent


you know sickscent there never was a plan to this but it has recently crossed my mind that switching "it" off as in: walking away/disappearing is not so easy to visualize if that was desired
you know the environment forms so enlivened you can`t ignore it when it want`s your attention thus it`s best to incorporate it within future thoughts of lifestyle
i know i am stating the obvious but i have only just got this notion myself as i`m telling it recently
not something i have ever thought about in detail
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In special relativity, the speed of light is constant when measured in any inertial frame. In general relativity, the appropriate generalisation is that the speed of light is constant in any freely falling reference frame (in a region small enough that tidal effects can be neglected).
[link to math.ucr.edu]


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So, the way I describe light is validated. Light exists everywhere, it is just in the 'background' of everything. When we measure light, we are not measuring 'light' because it is a constant. It is the make-up of everything, we just can't see it in the background, because we can't see anything that is super-luminal.

It is the manifested mass of aether that allows a 'break' in the window and allows light to shine through. NOT COME THROUGH, as it already exists everywhere and is everything. The Orphic Egg Dionysian just referenced is a 'kind of' visualization of the structure/function that allows light to be 'seen'.

gaah

This is part of Walter Russell's thoughts...but we are at the quantum mass manifestation level, and I am describing it as if it is already a manifestation of mass.

There needs to be words to describe this process better, this vision I have, which I believe parallels what Walter envisioned.
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yes there is a question mark over light
as there is no void/empty space anywhere does light travel or is light the signal/trail of the pulse of the medium we named space as in:
is light a self contained substance or is it an animation of the solid (invisible/non material) universe
thus frozen light giving the illusion of motion when really because all is solid nothing in fact moves, only the non material information transmits through the solid environment
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In special relativity, the speed of light is constant when measured in any inertial frame. In general relativity, the appropriate generalisation is that the speed of light is constant in any freely falling reference frame (in a region small enough that tidal effects can be neglected).
[link to math.ucr.edu]


---

So, the way I describe light is validated. Light exists everywhere, it is just in the 'background' of everything. When we measure light, we are not measuring 'light' because it is a constant. It is the make-up of everything, we just can't see it in the background, because we can't see anything that is super-luminal.

It is the manifested mass of aether that allows a 'break' in the window and allows light to shine through. NOT COME THROUGH, as it already exists everywhere and is everything. The Orphic Egg Dionysian just referenced is a 'kind of' visualization of the structure/function that allows light to be 'seen'.

gaah

This is part of Walter Russell's thoughts...but we are at the quantum mass manifestation level, and I am describing it as if it is already a manifestation of mass.

There needs to be words to describe this process better, this vision I have, which I believe parallels what Walter envisioned.
 Quoting: sickscent


yes there is a question mark over light
as there is no void/empty space anywhere does light travel or is light the signal/trail of the pulse of the medium we named space as in:
is light a self contained substance or is it an animation of the solid (invisible/non material) universe
thus frozen light giving the illusion of motion when really because all is solid nothing in fact moves, only the non material information transmits through the solid environment
 Quoting: aether


i detect as i wrote that it will depend on how far/deep people desire to go and i get the impression few will desire to do that far
maybe for a very long time
and it is fine and makes little difference really i think
i don`t know
i do know i detect resistance to that depth of experience as in:
not desired
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Excellent. Looking forward to this. I'm in the middle of data entry at work, and I've got to get it done before I can put my mind into visual mode.

But FINALLY, something that discusses this beyond the rudimentary example given by Einstein. We are furthering the complexity, so we should arrive at a different place of understanding.
 Quoting: sickscent


you know sickscent there never was a plan to this but it has recently crossed my mind that switching "it" off as in: walking away/disappearing is not so easy to visualize if that was desired
you know the environment forms so enlivened you can`t ignore it when it want`s your attention thus it`s best to incorporate it within future thoughts of lifestyle
i know i am stating the obvious but i have only just got this notion myself as i`m telling it recently
not something i have ever thought about in detail
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It's specifically what I've been entangled in since I decided to see where 'universe' would take me. It's been a strange trip and I'm sure quite far from over.
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The word LIGHT has WAY too much baggage attached to it. Like the word God does.

Whenever LIGHT is mentioned, instantly, the only thing that comes to mind is the visual, shining aspect of it, when that is only one small percentage of what of light IS.

Light needs to be expressed without ever using the word light in describing it. Then, we can grasp this fucker a little better, instead of having the slithering bias of 'shining' light creep back into the depths of our thought processes.

I wish I had time. I would dissect everything about light, without ever saying light.
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Excellent. Looking forward to this. I'm in the middle of data entry at work, and I've got to get it done before I can put my mind into visual mode.

But FINALLY, something that discusses this beyond the rudimentary example given by Einstein. We are furthering the complexity, so we should arrive at a different place of understanding.
 Quoting: sickscent


you know sickscent there never was a plan to this but it has recently crossed my mind that switching "it" off as in: walking away/disappearing is not so easy to visualize if that was desired
you know the environment forms so enlivened you can`t ignore it when it want`s your attention thus it`s best to incorporate it within future thoughts of lifestyle
i know i am stating the obvious but i have only just got this notion myself as i`m telling it recently
not something i have ever thought about in detail
 Quoting: aether


I need a frame of reference, aether, otherwise, instead of purposely walking away/disappearing, I will probably do it on accident, or a subconscious push that way.
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sorry if you already covered this...

[link to www.independent.co.uk]
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The atomic clocks used in the study are based on the tiny vibrations of aluminium atoms trapped in an electric field. These vibrations are in the same frequency range of ultraviolet light, detected by lasers, which effectively means that the atomic timepieces are optical clocks, accurate enough to measure billionths of a second and to keep time accurately over millions of years.
 Quoting: observation


okay that is what the clock is detecting , motion of light

Einstein's theory of relativity states that time and space are not as constant as everyday life would suggest. He suggested that the only true constant, the speed of light, meant that time can run faster or slower depending on how high you are, and how fast you are traveling.
 Quoting: observation


so einstein decided that light always traveled at the same velocity thus any changes must be the environment and not light

found that when they monitored two such clocks positioned just a foot apart in height above sea level, they found that time really does run more quickly the higher you are
 Quoting: observation


the force of gravity is strongest on the surface and reduces as you arise from the surface
light is less effected (slowed) by gravity as you arise from the surface hence it travels faster thus shown in the experiment
because light went faster the measurement between light signals (frequency range of ultraviolet light) shortened thus the measure symbol (time) was less

in other words the velocity of light is governed by the environment it travels through and not the information contained within light
light is a carrier of information, not it`s own master (constant)

the alternative is to pretend time is a dimension as in:
a separate non material structure that units (material structures) exist within

i don`t believe anyone would imagine the word time as a dimension
 Quoting: aether


This is something that I haven't quite grasped...and I should have by now.

Light is a constant. But, it can slow down?

How about this. Light is a constant, but because of gravity, the light 'bends' which means it takes longer to travel from point A to B, because it is not a straight line.

I cannot believe I haven't looked into this yet. I need to today, as it effects everything within it's environment.

We have always generalized about light being constant, but here it is slowing down because of gravity...

hmm
 Quoting: SickScent


Here's a strange structure to stricture of definition. What if Omega singularity pulling at constant is outputting photonic flow by a constant motive force of compulsion or magnetic frictive force.

Gravity and tide alters this as being almost an antithetical function by pulling towards object rather than singularity,
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Excellent. Looking forward to this. I'm in the middle of data entry at work, and I've got to get it done before I can put my mind into visual mode.

But FINALLY, something that discusses this beyond the rudimentary example given by Einstein. We are furthering the complexity, so we should arrive at a different place of understanding.
 Quoting: sickscent


you know sickscent there never was a plan to this but it has recently crossed my mind that switching "it" off as in: walking away/disappearing is not so easy to visualize if that was desired
you know the environment forms so enlivened you can`t ignore it when it want`s your attention thus it`s best to incorporate it within future thoughts of lifestyle
i know i am stating the obvious but i have only just got this notion myself as i`m telling it recently
not something i have ever thought about in detail
 Quoting: aether


It's specifically what I've been entangled in since I decided to see where 'universe' would take me. It's been a strange trip and I'm sure quite far from over.
 Quoting: Dionysian Fullaflatus


I think I am understanding you guys, but there is a natural tendency, not to walk away, but to disbelieve. Doesn't everyone get to that point when they want to dive deep, at least at some point?

ya know, I often look around at the brethren, and think about what you posted pages back. They know nothing. They are content in their world, never pressing forward, always thinking that symbolism/archetypes are merely that, and nothing more...names attached to something that doesn't effect them. Little do they know.

Shit, I just started rambling. I don't even know what I am talking about right now. sigh
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sorry if you already covered this...

[link to www.independent.co.uk]
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The atomic clocks used in the study are based on the tiny vibrations of aluminium atoms trapped in an electric field. These vibrations are in the same frequency range of ultraviolet light, detected by lasers, which effectively means that the atomic timepieces are optical clocks, accurate enough to measure billionths of a second and to keep time accurately over millions of years.
 Quoting: observation


okay that is what the clock is detecting , motion of light

Einstein's theory of relativity states that time and space are not as constant as everyday life would suggest. He suggested that the only true constant, the speed of light, meant that time can run faster or slower depending on how high you are, and how fast you are traveling.
 Quoting: observation


so einstein decided that light always traveled at the same velocity thus any changes must be the environment and not light

found that when they monitored two such clocks positioned just a foot apart in height above sea level, they found that time really does run more quickly the higher you are
 Quoting: observation


the force of gravity is strongest on the surface and reduces as you arise from the surface
light is less effected (slowed) by gravity as you arise from the surface hence it travels faster thus shown in the experiment
because light went faster the measurement between light signals (frequency range of ultraviolet light) shortened thus the measure symbol (time) was less

in other words the velocity of light is governed by the environment it travels through and not the information contained within light
light is a carrier of information, not it`s own master (constant)

the alternative is to pretend time is a dimension as in:
a separate non material structure that units (material structures) exist within

i don`t believe anyone would imagine the word time as a dimension
 Quoting: aether


This is something that I haven't quite grasped...and I should have by now.

Light is a constant. But, it can slow down?

How about this. Light is a constant, but because of gravity, the light 'bends' which means it takes longer to travel from point A to B, because it is not a straight line.

I cannot believe I haven't looked into this yet. I need to today, as it effects everything within it's environment.

We have always generalized about light being constant, but here it is slowing down because of gravity...

hmm
 Quoting: SickScent


Here's a strange structure to stricture of definition. What if Omega singularity pulling at constant is outputting photonic flow by a constant motive force of compulsion or magnetic frictive force.

Gravity and tide alters this as being almost an antithetical function by pulling towards object rather than singularity,
 Quoting: Dionysian Fullaflatus


From out of nowhere, this is my response to what you just wrote.

You are expressing inversions.
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well that was very nice !!!!
brilliant guys !!!
makes me laugh because you know just what i`m saying
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...


...


okay that is what the clock is detecting , motion of light

...


so einstein decided that light always traveled at the same velocity thus any changes must be the environment and not light

...


the force of gravity is strongest on the surface and reduces as you arise from the surface
light is less effected (slowed) by gravity as you arise from the surface hence it travels faster thus shown in the experiment
because light went faster the measurement between light signals (frequency range of ultraviolet light) shortened thus the measure symbol (time) was less

in other words the velocity of light is governed by the environment it travels through and not the information contained within light
light is a carrier of information, not it`s own master (constant)

the alternative is to pretend time is a dimension as in:
a separate non material structure that units (material structures) exist within

i don`t believe anyone would imagine the word time as a dimension
 Quoting: aether


This is something that I haven't quite grasped...and I should have by now.

Light is a constant. But, it can slow down?

How about this. Light is a constant, but because of gravity, the light 'bends' which means it takes longer to travel from point A to B, because it is not a straight line.

I cannot believe I haven't looked into this yet. I need to today, as it effects everything within it's environment.

We have always generalized about light being constant, but here it is slowing down because of gravity...

hmm
 Quoting: SickScent


Here's a strange structure to stricture of definition. What if Omega singularity pulling at constant is outputting photonic flow by a constant motive force of compulsion or magnetic frictive force.

Gravity and tide alters this as being almost an antithetical function by pulling towards object rather than singularity,
 Quoting: Dionysian Fullaflatus


From out of nowhere, this is my response to what you just wrote.

You are expressing inversions.
 Quoting: SickScent


Null force and St. Elmos fire just happen to be sticking to the windscreen at the moment.

Heck, at least it's no perversions and revisions. ;)
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I think I am understanding you guys, but there is a natural tendency, not to walk away, but to disbelieve. Doesn't everyone get to that point when they want to dive deep, at least at some point?

ya know, I often look around at the brethren, and think about what you posted pages back. They know nothing. They are content in their world, never pressing forward, always thinking that symbolism/archetypes are merely that, and nothing more...names attached to something that doesn't effect them. Little do they know.

Shit, I just started rambling. I don't even know what I am talking about right now
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well not because they were never told
so
i don`t care
at all
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This is something that I haven't quite grasped...and I should have by now.

Light is a constant. But, it can slow down?

How about this. Light is a constant, but because of gravity, the light 'bends' which means it takes longer to travel from point A to B, because it is not a straight line.

I cannot believe I haven't looked into this yet. I need to today, as it effects everything within it's environment.

We have always generalized about light being constant, but here it is slowing down because of gravity...

hmm
 Quoting: SickScent


Here's a strange structure to stricture of definition. What if Omega singularity pulling at constant is outputting photonic flow by a constant motive force of compulsion or magnetic frictive force.

Gravity and tide alters this as being almost an antithetical function by pulling towards object rather than singularity,
 Quoting: Dionysian Fullaflatus


From out of nowhere, this is my response to what you just wrote.

You are expressing inversions.
 Quoting: SickScent


Null force and St. Elmos fire just happen to be sticking to the windscreen at the moment.

Heck, at least it's no perversions and revisions. ;)
 Quoting: Dionysian Fullaflatus


Dionysian, I think you know Toad, but we never discussed whether you do or not...but when Toad was explaining how black holes are places of inversion, everything took on a different meaning for me. It is one of the keys that rarely does one even understand, much less think about.

The other day, I was thinking about all the talk about how the hierarchical pyramid may flip on its head. That is seeing things with a lack of further dimensionality. Inversion allows that further dimensionality to be easily expressed.

What if the pyramid is in a process of inversion. It all takes on a new meaning by viewing it that way...and what is the cause of the inversion? The upward climbing pyramid and the downward falling pyramid...and their convergence.

Now we see further answers to what may be occurring, because we are viewing it as the non-material is inverting the material, and vice-versa.
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I think I am understanding you guys, but there is a natural tendency, not to walk away, but to disbelieve. Doesn't everyone get to that point when they want to dive deep, at least at some point?

ya know, I often look around at the brethren, and think about what you posted pages back. They know nothing. They are content in their world, never pressing forward, always thinking that symbolism/archetypes are merely that, and nothing more...names attached to something that doesn't effect them. Little do they know.

Shit, I just started rambling. I don't even know what I am talking about right now
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well not because they were never told
so
i don`t care
at all
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I think I am understanding you guys, but there is a natural tendency, not to walk away, but to disbelieve. Doesn't everyone get to that point when they want to dive deep, at least at some point?

ya know, I often look around at the brethren, and think about what you posted pages back. They know nothing. They are content in their world, never pressing forward, always thinking that symbolism/archetypes are merely that, and nothing more...names attached to something that doesn't effect them. Little do they know.

Shit, I just started rambling. I don't even know what I am talking about right now
 Quoting: sickscent


well not because they were never told
so
i don`t care
at all
 Quoting: aether


lol

I know you don't. Its just something I think about, standing amongst them.





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