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aether User ID: 1412926 United Kingdom 04/04/2012 11:22 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | oh nasa woke up as we wrote: I think you have this down correctly, regarding field line "reconnection" and double layer phenomena, and that the reconnection version is not only a reification of the imaginary lines used to describe local field direction (or lines of equal intensity, depending on the purpose) in 3-D magnetic fields, which are located as volumes in 3-D space, and not on sheets of paper in a book. Double layers are a necessary but not sufficient description of plasma events and interactions, and are absolutely foundational to understanding how energy is stored and released as well as conveyed across long distances throughout the cosmos. Quoting: observationWorse, scientists generally do not use the Alfvén corrections to the use of MHD in describing or modeling plasma physics, despite his realization and publication that it is too simplistic in the assumptions it makes to be computationally tractable. "Advice unheeded does not mean un-needed." Particle-in-cell (PIC) and its modern derivations are much better suited to tracking events at the particle level, as you know Peratt discusses at length in his textbook, even giving the TRISTAN pseudo-code so someone can follow the general outline of how the program works. Peratt updated his thinking on programs in Advanced Topics on Astrophysical and Space Plasmas, the proceedings of the 1994 International Conference on Plasma Physics in Brazil, in his talk titled Advances in Numerical Modeling of Astrophysical and Space Plasmas. Please keep up your references to good sources, textbooks and articles and links. They are invaluable. In fact, the more mainstream the source is in confirming the tenets of the EU perspective, the better, as those tend to be the hardest to argue against. I like to quote Philipp Kronberg's paper, "Current measurement in a Kpc-Scaled Jet" for that very reason. It helps other astronomers and EU enthusiasts both understand the carefully rigorous, very mainstream methodology he uses and the conclusions that he draws. It is harder for the types of "mainstream police" who harass Michael Suede to say that their own people are wrong and stupid for it, even though that is essentially what they can do on Wikipedia. And do, sadly. "Move on; move on. No counter-mainstream interesting chatter here." Thanks for your information. I need to study double layers in more detail. Quoting: nasa themisIEEE TRANSACTIONS ON PLASMA SCIENCE, VOL. PS-14, NO. 6, DECEMBER 1986 Double Layers and Circuits in Astrophysics [link to ieeexplore.ieee.org] good timing because nasa was touchy recently seems they are over it Last Edited by aether on 04/04/2012 11:22 AM |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 13683198 Canada 04/04/2012 11:24 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Motive is it's own motive as Imagination is the realization of potential. Ersatz imaginings are the imaginings based on what was/is predicating what can be. Thus the loop and artificial rationalized motive. Real motive is as much unpredictability based on ambiguous circulations of locality as false motive is capturing the imaginations in self fulfilling loops of supposedly logical constructs. |
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aether User ID: 1412926 United Kingdom 04/04/2012 11:30 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Some questions: If Lagrange points for gravity can be calculated, where are the Lagrange points for the electromagnetic forces? Electromagnetic force is reckoned to be 10 to the power of 43 times stronger than gravity. As these forces interact in the orbit around the sun the points must be moving. When will the earth be, once again, at the focal point of massive electromagnetic forces? What would the effect be? Can they be additive, subtractive, or reflective? Do the points comb interstellar space and latch onto debris? Quoting: observationThe trouble with this kind of theory is that it assumes the space around the objects is vacuum. In fact they are embedded in a plasma. In a plasma, charge carriers are free to move and will move to balance out the electric field and hence the field only extends out to a certain distance called a DeBye length. Quoting: nasa:themis[link to en.wikipedia.org] In almost all cases the DeBye length will be far inside any Lagrange point, unless you are willing to invoke some more interesting dynamic plasma physics which allows static electric fields to be stable in a conductive media, in which case I am all ears |
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aether User ID: 1412926 United Kingdom 04/04/2012 11:32 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Some questions: If Lagrange points for gravity can be calculated, where are the Lagrange points for the electromagnetic forces? Electromagnetic force is reckoned to be 10 to the power of 43 times stronger than gravity. As these forces interact in the orbit around the sun the points must be moving. When will the earth be, once again, at the focal point of massive electromagnetic forces? What would the effect be? Can they be additive, subtractive, or reflective? Do the points comb interstellar space and latch onto debris? Quoting: observationThe trouble with this kind of theory is that it assumes the space around the objects is vacuum. In fact they are embedded in a plasma. In a plasma, charge carriers are free to move and will move to balance out the electric field and hence the field only extends out to a certain distance called a DeBye length. Quoting: nasa:themis[link to en.wikipedia.org] In almost all cases the DeBye length will be far inside any Lagrange point, unless you are willing to invoke some more interesting dynamic plasma physics which allows static electric fields to be stable in a conductive media, in which case I am all ears this is the saturn/earth topic |
aether User ID: 1412926 United Kingdom 04/04/2012 11:32 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | thank you for your compassion...done as in can't do it anymore... bye aether Cheers, to inevitability. We all swim. thanks for your input Last Edited by aether on 04/04/2012 11:33 AM |
Swinging on Spirals User ID: 865798 United States 04/04/2012 12:17 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: aether all within a motive thus although appearing infinite within random probability they are infinite within defined possibility (motive) Inevitability, swim or die. The answer is always in the question or questioner. I think therefore I fail. THAT is a very difficult concept to even begin understanding properly. And, it takes a long time to get 'fluent' enough to trust in intuition and free thought as a way to structure your mental processes. I believe it may be circular in nature. In other words, first you must think, in order to get to a point of getting not-thinking to work properly. You said it right there, We will never understand it. Thinking is what got us into this mess in the first place. ;) Think too much and you'll be telling me there are giants in your underpants defying gravity. lol It's the line I like to use on my wife. "Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming, "Wow! What a Ride!" We do not Die, We Awaken to the Dream that We Lived. |
Swinging on Spirals User ID: 865798 United States 04/04/2012 12:20 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Some questions: If Lagrange points for gravity can be calculated, where are the Lagrange points for the electromagnetic forces? Electromagnetic force is reckoned to be 10 to the power of 43 times stronger than gravity. As these forces interact in the orbit around the sun the points must be moving. When will the earth be, once again, at the focal point of massive electromagnetic forces? What would the effect be? Can they be additive, subtractive, or reflective? Do the points comb interstellar space and latch onto debris? Quoting: observationThe trouble with this kind of theory is that it assumes the space around the objects is vacuum. In fact they are embedded in a plasma. In a plasma, charge carriers are free to move and will move to balance out the electric field and hence the field only extends out to a certain distance called a DeBye length. Quoting: nasa:themis[link to en.wikipedia.org] In almost all cases the DeBye length will be far inside any Lagrange point, unless you are willing to invoke some more interesting dynamic plasma physics which allows static electric fields to be stable in a conductive media, in which case I am all ears this is the saturn/earth topic I love thinking these thoughts... EDIT: Oops, Dion said not to think about them. I love connecting to these images. Last Edited by Swinging on Spirals on 04/04/2012 12:21 PM "Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming, "Wow! What a Ride!" We do not Die, We Awaken to the Dream that We Lived. |
HilosPP User ID: 1486547 United States 04/04/2012 12:39 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | In my mind, I have pictured aether as sitting in a fancy chair smoking a pipe with a bunch of books lol! Quoting: Anonymous Coward 12180333 In a red plush robe with gold trim, a roaring fire behind him. Yup, that's how I picture aether, too :) Hehe, too funny at the park the other day I was kind of drifting in between worlds and meditating and I envisioned my Skull catching on Fire, involuntary, like the Ghost Rider. The Silver Singing Saiyan; Israel's Redeemer. Justice found Equals Satan Usurped Shamelessly It's not me, I am not Him Freedom From Fear The Key To Troublesome Peace |
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Blue Skies User ID: 1337548 United States 04/04/2012 12:43 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 13751667 thank you for your compassion...done as in can't do it anymore... bye aether Cheers, to inevitability. We all swim. thanks for your input I just did something batshit crazy and it came out of the blue! Now I'm done What have you done now. lol :kitten on fence: |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 13683198 Canada 04/04/2012 12:46 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Some questions: If Lagrange points for gravity can be calculated, where are the Lagrange points for the electromagnetic forces? Electromagnetic force is reckoned to be 10 to the power of 43 times stronger than gravity. As these forces interact in the orbit around the sun the points must be moving. When will the earth be, once again, at the focal point of massive electromagnetic forces? What would the effect be? Can they be additive, subtractive, or reflective? Do the points comb interstellar space and latch onto debris? Quoting: observationThe trouble with this kind of theory is that it assumes the space around the objects is vacuum. In fact they are embedded in a plasma. In a plasma, charge carriers are free to move and will move to balance out the electric field and hence the field only extends out to a certain distance called a DeBye length. Quoting: nasa:themis[link to en.wikipedia.org] In almost all cases the DeBye length will be far inside any Lagrange point, unless you are willing to invoke some more interesting dynamic plasma physics which allows static electric fields to be stable in a conductive media, in which case I am all ears this is the saturn/earth topic I love thinking these thoughts... EDIT: Oops, Dion said not to think about them. I love connecting to these images. Watch them in your head and apply tones and chroma at your leisure. Without poisoning the well my 5 cents is that inevitability is the pendulum. It evokes time, locality and by inferring the totality of it's arc, the circle and by changing the length of it's weight it can confer the imperfection of the oblate sphere. It confers the impermanence of thought as by the time you infer 'there' it is 'here'. But, it amply confers dynamism and the nature of duality as to define good or any gradating pole we must know the compulsion of it's opposite. As material motive is impelled or compelled by it's opposite. The immaterial needs no gravity but orientation to define it's perfect cycles as localities are 'immaterial' and seamlessly move through one another without the perturbation of materials conjunction. The motive of the immaterial is as plain as dreams and potentiality, as scarcity and the mutability of object relationships do not need to be recognized as the interred patterns of motivation. Thus we see the compulsion of the material towards reconciling vision with 'reality'. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 13683198 Canada 04/04/2012 12:48 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I love thinking these thoughts... EDIT: Oops, Dion said not to think about them. I love connecting to these images. Watch them in your head and apply tones and chroma at your leisure. Without poisoning the well my 5 cents is that inevitability is the pendulum. It evokes time, locality and by inferring the totality of it's arc, the circle and by changing the length of it's weight it can confer the imperfection of the oblate sphere. It confers the impermanence of thought as by the time you infer 'there' it is 'here'. But, it amply confers dynamism and the nature of duality as to define good or any gradating pole we must know the compulsion of it's opposite. As material motive is impelled or compelled by it's opposite. The immaterial needs no gravity but orientation to define it's perfect cycles as localities are 'immaterial' and seamlessly move through one another without the perturbation of materials conjunction. The motive of the immaterial is as plain as dreams and potentiality, as scarcity and the mutability of object relationships do not need to be recognized as the interred patterns of motivation. Thus we see the compulsion of the material towards reconciling vision with 'reality'. Envision thinking as putting artificial constraints on the immaterial and corrupting the flow between two bodies. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 13683198 Canada 04/04/2012 12:49 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 13751667 thank you for your compassion...done as in can't do it anymore... bye aether Cheers, to inevitability. We all swim. thanks for your input I just did something batshit crazy and it came out of the blue! Now I'm done Do we need to call 911? or is the flow staunching itself? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 10597784 Japan 04/04/2012 12:50 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 13751667 thank you for your compassion...done as in can't do it anymore... bye aether Cheers, to inevitability. We all swim. thanks for your input I just did something batshit crazy and it came out of the blue! Now I'm done Inquiring minds would like to know! |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 13683198 Canada 04/04/2012 12:59 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | What is behind motive, or what creates motive? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 10597784 Is it lacking in information? A need to understand? Or experience? Space to fill. Stay in a white room long enough with no definable corners and the walls will eventually be filled to add dimension. Or sit in silent darkness until you manufacture the light. |
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aether User ID: 1412926 United Kingdom 04/04/2012 01:09 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 13751667 thank you for your compassion...done as in can't do it anymore... bye aether Cheers, to inevitability. We all swim. thanks for your input I just did something batshit crazy and it came out of the blue! Now I'm done that feels attractive |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 10597784 Japan 04/04/2012 01:09 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | What is behind motive, or what creates motive? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 10597784 Is it lacking in information? A need to understand? Or experience? Space to fill. Stay in a white room long enough with no definable corners and the walls will eventually be filled to add dimension. Or sit in silent darkness until you manufacture the light. I don't know why I thought of depth and height when reading this. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 819997 United States 04/04/2012 01:10 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I'mma go stand in line for a ticket to the magical mystery tour...and figure out how best to fake a "oooh ahhhh" surprised look so I can be convincing. Quoting: ArunaLuna A bottle of dlsd 25 will give you that look permanently, why fake it? ;) LOL...no thanks...I'm no good with permanence. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 13751667 United States 04/04/2012 01:12 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | What is behind motive, or what creates motive? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 10597784 Is it lacking in information? A need to understand? Or experience? Space to fill. Stay in a white room long enough with no definable corners and the walls will eventually be filled to add dimension. Or sit in silent darkness until you manufacture the light. I don't know why I thought of depth and height when reading this. did you know the ancient celtic cross was used by some as a device to measure height and distance of far objects? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 10597784 Japan 04/04/2012 01:13 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | What is behind motive, or what creates motive? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 10597784 Is it lacking in information? A need to understand? Or experience? Space to fill. Stay in a white room long enough with no definable corners and the walls will eventually be filled to add dimension. Or sit in silent darkness until you manufacture the light. Just thought of something! 667 gave me motive to know what they went batshit crazy about! I'm wondering if it is others that give motive, like the environment and people...like that is where it comes from. Could be within as well. ugghh! |