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Has anyone heard of the organic computer?
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utilizing something organic that is not human to ask questions of and receive intelligent reply requires the constructor of the organic something to be aware of the structure and function of our environment prior to successful replication (construction)

humanity does not possess that awareness at this moment
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Black Flares
Apr 11, 2012

Black hole theory contradicts itself.


Most astrophysicists try to explain narrow jets erupting from various sources by using words like “nozzle” or “high pressure,” contradicting the known behavior of gases in a vacuum. For example, according to a recent press release, “flares” have been discovered jetting from a source close to the center of our galaxy. Consensus opinions call that source a black hole................
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................Oddly, the indigenous Easter Island rongorongo script may hold the answer. But first we have to consider the concept of the fourth state of matter--plasma. Plasma consists of electrically charged particles. Familiar plasma phenomena on Earth today include lightning and auroras, the northern and southern lights, and upper atmospheric phenomena known as sprites. In the past, much more powerful plasma events sometimes took place, due to solar outbursts and coronal mass ejections (CMEs) from the Sun, or possibly emissions from other celestial objects. Powerful plasma phenomena could cause strong electrical discharges to hit Earth, burning and incinerating materials on our planet's surface. Los Alamos plasma physicist Dr. Anthony L. Peratt and his associates have established that petroglyphs found worldwide record an intense plasma event (or events) in prehistory.

Dr. Peratt determined that powerful plasma phenomena observed in the skies would take on characteristic shapes resembling humanoid figures, humans with bird heads, sets of rings or donut shapes, and writhing snakes or serpents--shapes reflected in countless ancient petroglyphs. The Easter Island rongorongo script, recorded on antique wooden tablets, is composed of similar shapes as the petroglyphs. Studying them in detail (inspired by my wife, Catherine Ulissey, who first noticed the connection), I concluded that the Easter Island rongorongo tablets (the surviving tablets are copies of copies of copies . . . .) record a major plasma event in the skies thousands of years ago. This, I believe, was the event that brought a final close to the last ice age...................
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Astronomical Retrocalculations and Chronology

In the past several decades, various researchers have sought to "correct" the conventional chronology of ancient and medieval history by deleting one or more centuries. A significant number of these researchers--Rose, Heinsohn, Marx, Whelton, James, Rohl, and various others--were influenced by the writings of Immanuel Velikovsky, who argued that some five centuries needed to be removed from Greek history, thereby eliminating the so-called Dark Ages. Velikovsky also envisioned shifting Ramses II and Hattusilis III forward in time by some seven centuries to the time of Nebuchadnezzar II (c. 600 BCE). For those of us who are not trained historians or intimately familiar with the relevant historical data, it is difficult to know what to make of these seemingly erudite and occasionally arcane arguments. Is it really possible, as Marx and Fomenko would have us believe, that conventional chronology is off by more than a thousand years and that Alexander the Great died in 900 AD? Are we to believe, as Illig and Whelton would have us do, that Middle Age chronology is inflated by two or three centuries? Other revisions, such as that offered by Heinsohn and Illig, are even more radical, calling for a deletion of several millennia at various points since Neolithic times (these two researchers hold that the Great Pyramid at Giza was built some time after 500 BCE!)..............
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Interesting...deleting history.

hmm
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Has anyone heard of the organic computer?
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utilizing something organic that is not human to ask questions of and receive intelligent reply requires the constructor of the organic something to be aware of the structure and function of our environment prior to successful replication (construction)

humanity does not possess that awareness at this moment
 Quoting: aether


It does seem, based on my own personal experience and observation something does. ; ) if I could post the image of mantis on wheels that came across my feed earlier it would
fit well here...

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Interesting...deleting history.

hmm
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1rof1

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Has anyone heard of the organic computer?
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utilizing something organic that is not human to ask questions of and receive intelligent reply requires the constructor of the organic something to be aware of the structure and function of our environment prior to successful replication (construction)

humanity does not possess that awareness at this moment
 Quoting: aether


It does seem, based on my own personal experience and observation something does. ; ) if I could post the image of mantis on wheels that came across my feed earlier it would
fit well here...

rockon
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that is a topic that few on the planet get

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1 like 0 only exist in the imagination of 2 or more if the 2 or more choose to imagine that way
thus there can be 1 agreed something
or no (0) agreed something
but only 2 or more can do that

there is and never can be nothing (0) and something (1) must and is always 1 within something (2)
 Quoting: aether


on the topic of few on the planet. one something must always exist within something is baffling the few who`s domain within humanity it is to make sense of this
so

they accept nothing (0) does not exist because our technology has proven that our non material dimensions are real
cern has done that
thus their minds do accept that what was believed to be nothing (0) is actually something (1)
when it comes to our material universe their minds require "an edge" to our universe, they can not accept material going out in all directions to infinity
but their minds can now accept that our material universe (1) exists withing something (1) non material
thus we seem to be settling for the convenience of humanities minds that our material universe (1) exists within our invisible dimension (1) thus the invisible dimension may be infinite even though our material universe may be finite in size within it
it gives them the "edge/definition" their minds appear to require at this moment whilst enabling thinking from this moment to truly commence at 2
thus the 2 or more have agreed what the 2 is
it is the material and non material combined
god becomes 2
thus all that god does commences in 3

that seems to be the thrust of thinking at the moment

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the good thing about this is the 0 and 1 now have a place that reflects reality
god can never be not god thus is never 0 or 1 , they do not exist but for convenience of identification they are allowed to be utilized as identification symbols
thus we use them in identifying/labeling what god does ( 3 onwards) but never use them to replace god, ever again
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1 like 0 only exist in the imagination of 2 or more if the 2 or more choose to imagine that way
thus there can be 1 agreed something
or no (0) agreed something
but only 2 or more can do that

there is and never can be nothing (0) and something (1) must and is always 1 within something (2)
 Quoting: aether


on the topic of few on the planet. one something must always exist within something is baffling the few who`s domain within humanity it is to make sense of this
so

they accept nothing (0) does not exist because our technology has proven that our non material dimensions are real
cern has done that
thus their minds do accept that what was believed to be nothing (0) is actually something (1)
when it comes to our material universe their minds require "an edge" to our universe, they can not accept material going out in all directions to infinity
but their minds can now accept that our material universe (1) exists withing something (1) non material
thus we seem to be settling for the convenience of humanities minds that our material universe (1) exists within our invisible dimension (1) thus the invisible dimension may be infinite even though our material universe may be finite in size within it
it gives them the "edge/definition" their minds appear to require at this moment whilst enabling thinking from this moment to truly commence at 2
thus the 2 or more have agreed what the 2 is
it is the material and non material combined
god becomes 2
thus all that god does commences in 3

that seems to be the thrust of thinking at the moment
 Quoting: aether


I couple things sticking out in my mind while reading this. The first is the material existing 'within' the non-material. How can this be defined that way when non-material is without distance/space/time? Is this a word being used for 'comfort' in their understanding?

Another thing...they are seeing the edge of non-material/material. Why cannot they think of the infinite universe's 'edges' as a similar construct as the separation of material/non-material? In other words, the 'edges' within infinite systems are merely changes in environment.

One of my personal quotes:

- What is at the edge of the universe?
- Change


Also, 'all that god does commences in 3'. That is your commentary on their thoughts, not their thoughts at this moment, correct?

If that is correct, theoretically, if you were to ask them what the 3 would represent, what would their answer be?

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the good thing about this is the 0 and 1 now have a place that reflects reality
god can never be not god thus is never 0 or 1 , they do not exist but for convenience of identification they are allowed to be utilized as identification symbols
thus we use them in identifying/labeling what god does ( 3 onwards) but never use them to replace god, ever again
 Quoting: aether


So, god is relationship...(?)
"Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body,
but rather to skid in broadside, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming, "Wow! What a Ride!"

We do not Die, We Awaken to the Dream that We Lived.
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Also, aether, are there going to be papers written on the findings? If so, then different terminology will have to be manifested into the research. Are they building that new lexicon yet?
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the good thing about this is the 0 and 1 now have a place that reflects reality
god can never be not god thus is never 0 or 1 , they do not exist but for convenience of identification they are allowed to be utilized as identification symbols
thus we use them in identifying/labeling what god does ( 3 onwards) but never use them to replace god, ever again
 Quoting: aether


clarification of "they do not exist"

they never exist in their own right (reality)
each of the ones of the two always have and do exist together thus they are in reality 2

because it helps to be aware of the structure and function of god it is right to label god as the 1 and the 1

this forces us to be real in forever knowing the 1 and the 1 act as 1 (3) thus being aware of the structure of god, when we replicate what god does we are forced to act as god by being aware of our 2 forces that always form the motive of our action (3)

this philosophy will be expanded in pace with the reasoning that arises from it`s current contemplation
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the good thing about this is the 0 and 1 now have a place that reflects reality
god can never be not god thus is never 0 or 1 , they do not exist but for convenience of identification they are allowed to be utilized as identification symbols
thus we use them in identifying/labeling what god does ( 3 onwards) but never use them to replace god, ever again
 Quoting: aether


clarification of "they do not exist"

they never exist in their own right (reality)
each of the ones of the two always have and do exist together thus they are in reality 2

because it helps to be aware of the structure and function of god it is right to label god as the 1 and the 1

this forces us to be real in forever knowing the 1 and the 1 act as 1 (3) thus being aware of the structure of god, when we replicate what god does we are forced to act as god by being aware of our 2 forces that always form the motive of our action (3)

this philosophy will be expanded in pace with the reasoning that arises from it`s current contemplation
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That is great news...
"Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body,
but rather to skid in broadside, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming, "Wow! What a Ride!"

We do not Die, We Awaken to the Dream that We Lived.
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Also, aether, are there going to be papers written on the findings? If so, then different terminology will have to be manifested into the research. Are they building that new lexicon yet?
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hey swinger rockon

late 2013 is the agreed date for this "philosophy" to be published officially and between now and then our sciences are under instruction to incorporate the new numerology into practical publicized experience

so
2014 is the big year when our "new "history and structure and function of our universe becomes practical debate outside the domain of america, russia and china (arc) as in:
from 2014 it should be up and running to be incorporated into global treatise which will take ..........
no one knows how long after that because the big 3 will have done it to the satisfaction of themselves
as they do

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Thread: Complexity of Influence - and Light that Does not Travel - Toroidal Manifestation


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Another flash, aether...

2 is the smallest number to exist ever, something and something else always

1 = 1 = Is considered to be a primordial unity. The beginning. The Creator.
 Quoting: aether


There MUST be relationship. So we have 1 and 1. As yet, the 1 and 1 exist, but are beyond relationship. THIS is the existence of Potential.

12 = 3 = Three is a moving forward of energy, overcoming duality, expression, manifestation and synthesis.
 Quoting: aether


The 3 is the all inclusive. It is the 'friction' of 1 and 1 having a relationship together. It is 'beyond' 1 and 1, because it is merely 1 and 1's relationship. Therefor, it is never 1 or the other 1...

This would make 3 everything and nothing at the same time. It is without physicality. It is the CAUSE of manifestation. Actually, it is the CAUSE of duality, expression, manifestation and synthesis.

12 is the pattern of relationship.
3 is...angular momentum. IT IS LIGHT.

Hahaha! CORRECTION... 3 = 'deformed' light...or, slowed down light.

The 'friction' of 1 and 1 causes light to slow down. 1 and 1 is what? Charge and Field. Maximize the energy being converted through the 'relationship' or friction between 1 and 1 (charge and field), by pulsation.

hmm There is something in this that is missing. The CAUSE for the pulse is missing. lmfao! That is what is ALWAYS missing when we do this fucking scenario!

Wait...the FRICTION must be the PULSE. Therefore, the pulse is the ratio of charge in relation to field. hmm

PULSE is Quantum Spin 1/2...?

If this deduction is correct, than we should have the pulse ratio of interaction between potential (1 and 1, charge and field) in numerical form when describing the Aether Unit.

Also, Q1/2 would be the first deformation of LIGHT into manifestation. There is no way to isolate that number though in real world...only mathematically.

Q1/2 would deform per the complexity of sacred geometry, with 4 spherical nodes being the first manifestation.

EDIT TO ADD: Deformation would occur as well because of Schrodinger's Cat.


Also, a note. If this is the case, then 3 is not consciousness like I thought, though it is integrated within the process. Somehow, even consciousness, is an effect of another, yet deeper, cause.

Is pulse Q1/2 ?

Is it Fibonacci?

Does it change due to complexity of influence?

If it changes due to complexity of influence, what is that ratio of change?

My answer to the above is that it changes due to complexity of influence. The answer may lie in the research: Thread: Self Organizing Criticalilty Points
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Also, aether, are there going to be papers written on the findings? If so, then different terminology will have to be manifested into the research. Are they building that new lexicon yet?
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hey swinger rockon

late 2013 is the agreed date for this "philosophy" to be published officially and between now and then our sciences are under instruction to incorporate the new numerology into practical publicized experience

so
2014 is the big year when our "new "history and structure and function of our universe becomes practical debate outside the domain of usa, russia and china as in:
from 2014 it should be up and running to be incorporated into global treatise which will take ..........
no one knows how long after that because the big 3 will have done it to the satisfaction of themselves
as they do
 Quoting: aether


umm...that's going to change everything...
"Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body,
but rather to skid in broadside, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming, "Wow! What a Ride!"

We do not Die, We Awaken to the Dream that We Lived.
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Also, aether, are there going to be papers written on the findings? If so, then different terminology will have to be manifested into the research. Are they building that new lexicon yet?
 Quoting: Swinging on Spirals


hey swinger rockon

late 2013 is the agreed date for this "philosophy" to be published officially and between now and then our sciences are under instruction to incorporate the new numerology into practical publicized experience

so
2014 is the big year when our "new "history and structure and function of our universe becomes practical debate outside the domain of usa, russia and china as in:
from 2014 it should be up and running to be incorporated into global treatise which will take ..........
no one knows how long after that because the big 3 will have done it to the satisfaction of themselves
as they do
 Quoting: aether


umm...that's going to change everything...
 Quoting: Swinging on Spirals


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1 like 0 only exist in the imagination of 2 or more if the 2 or more choose to imagine that way
thus there can be 1 agreed something
or no (0) agreed something
but only 2 or more can do that

there is and never can be nothing (0) and something (1) must and is always 1 within something (2)
 Quoting: aether


on the topic of few on the planet. one something must always exist within something is baffling the few who`s domain within humanity it is to make sense of this
so

they accept nothing (0) does not exist because our technology has proven that our non material dimensions are real
cern has done that
thus their minds do accept that what was believed to be nothing (0) is actually something (1)
when it comes to our material universe their minds require "an edge" to our universe, they can not accept material going out in all directions to infinity
but their minds can now accept that our material universe (1) exists withing something (1) non material
thus we seem to be settling for the convenience of humanities minds that our material universe (1) exists within our invisible dimension (1) thus the invisible dimension may be infinite even though our material universe may be finite in size within it
it gives them the "edge/definition" their minds appear to require at this moment whilst enabling thinking from this moment to truly commence at 2
thus the 2 or more have agreed what the 2 is
it is the material and non material combined
god becomes 2
thus all that god does commences in 3

that seems to be the thrust of thinking at the moment
 Quoting: aether


I couple things sticking out in my mind while reading this. The first is the material existing 'within' the non-material. How can this be defined that way when non-material is without distance/space/time? Is this a word being used for 'comfort' in their understanding?

Another thing...they are seeing the edge of non-material/material. Why cannot they think of the infinite universe's 'edges' as a similar construct as the separation of material/non-material? In other words, the 'edges' within infinite systems are merely changes in environment.

One of my personal quotes:

- What is at the edge of the universe?
- Change


Also, 'all that god does commences in 3'. That is your commentary on their thoughts, not their thoughts at this moment, correct?

If that is correct, theoretically, if you were to ask them what the 3 would represent, what would their answer be?
 Quoting: Swinging on Spirals


The first is the material existing 'within' the non-material. How can this be defined that way when non-material is without distance/space/time? Is this a word being used for 'comfort' in their understanding?
 Quoting: swinger


LOL
you may re think that /\.........


Another thing...they are seeing the edge of non-material/material. Why cannot they think of the infinite universe's 'edges' as a similar construct as the separation of material/non-material? In other words, the 'edges' within infinite systems are merely changes in environment.

One of my personal quotes:

- What is at the edge of the universe?
- Change
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........which will remove that /\


If that is correct, theoretically, if you were to ask them what the 3 would represent, what would their answer be?
 Quoting: swinger


"the supreme effect of effects"

springs to mind
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If that is correct, theoretically, if you were to ask them what the 3 would represent, what would their answer be?
 Quoting: swinger


"the supreme effect of effects"

springs to mind
 Quoting: aether


First 'layer' of cause?

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We do not Die, We Awaken to the Dream that We Lived.
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in practice 3 is god because god by existence (2) causes effect (3)

but within our 21 st century we are able to "enter" god hence we have gone beyond 3 into 2 and there is discovered that god is 2 in 1
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The line must be mirrored in opposite to cause effect. The photon discovers itself for a time entangling.

dna is that entanglement in memorex form.

the silence is golden, the noise and heat are white.
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There is an old Navajo warning that if you kill off the prairie dog there will be no one to cry for rain.

They studied this in Arizona as Bill Mollison states:

"Amused scientists, knowing that there was no conceivable relationship between prairie dogs and rain, recommended the extermination of all burrowing animals in some desert areas planted to rangelands in the 1950s....in order to protect the roots of the sparse desert grasses. Today the area (not far from Chilchinbito, Az) has become a virtual wasteland. Fierce runoff, soil compaction, and lack of fresh seedbed have carried the grasses away."

Burrowing animals like prairie dogs open breathing tubes in the Earth. The underground aquifers act like a diaphragm in human bodies, the moon as it passes raises and lowers the underground water table and the Earth breathes through the many fissures and tubes opened in by the burrowing creatures. The exhalation of moisture-laden air, filled with negative ions, helps create rain.


We all know trees are a major factor in rain making. Cutting trees in a major area results in one person's lifetime the creation of drought.

The interrelationships are congruent in to the ecosystem.
The separated parts, biosphere, atmosphere, lithosphere, and hydrosphere are not really divisions of the Earth but spheres of influence.

The real identity of the tree cannot be found in parts. It is expressions of the same thing in different forms. The tree doesn't end at its skin but exists also in the rain that falls downwind, many miles from the forest. In the seed exists the acorn, the oak, and the shade. The tree is also the fungi that live at its base, the bird that lives on its seed.
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WOW......Don't want to click from here. Who bought the site? Or was it a government job?
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Re: Marko Rodin - Smart Lazer Technology
A Ring of Truth

Rings around stars confirm Electric Universe theory.

A recent press release from the European Space Agency announces that a ring around the star Fomalhaut (Fo-mal-HOUT) demonstrates “the glow from dust in the debris disc – a structure resembling the Kuiper Belt in the primordial Solar System – around the young star Fomalhaut. Detailed studies suggest that the dust in this debris disc consists of “fluffy” aggregates of grains, which are produced by the frequent collisions taking place between comets within the disc.”..........
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