Marko Rodin - Smart Lazer Technology

Imagine what superstitions we think we know to be right when it is wayyy off base now.

Yup, like those that cheered when the guillotine wheeled out, wove their little red fabric instead of saying "wtf? this isn't humane, this isn't human!" Like those who'd bow to kings who claimed godhood and fought to the death for them. Like those who were burned at the stake not because they were witches, but because those in power wanted to claim their possessions. And those from time immemorial who made slaves of their fellow man just to make their lives easier... and I'm not talking current as in the US and that paradigm, I'm talking the Romans Spartacus fought against. I'm sure many of our ancestors were good people, victim of their circumstances... but there's just as many who weren't. So we learn from them, from their mistakes... but it doesn't mean we have to revere them in the "those were the good old days" past. They weren't so good, IMO... nothing worth emulating as a path forward. We KNOW better now.

I have no idea what your ancestors are trying to get you to believe...I only know my experience...and mine are trying to tell their story, unlike what is written.

My what if is, what if you go back far enough to the last golden age and it isn't superstitious eating hearts and sacrifices of the dark ages. What if they knew more than we do now?

And what if they didn't? Speculation doesn't mean confirmation. I understand you have much reverence for your ancestors... and I don't, but not for the reasons you think. I feel like you think it's a lack of respect on my part, but it's not. It just feels like by looking back and back we ignore the now, what's in front of us.

This is inline with our convo about why they couldn't make the exotic tech work properly.

And, is inline with Dion's words of ridding the self of natural thoughts that we have learned through being submerged in the human condition; bias.

wrong ac. I believe in the now.

Joule, you have a gift.

Funny, we all have our areas of expertise. Our way of expressing thoughts that others cannot put to words.

This is beautiful. I 'felt' this before reading what you wrote, and there was no way I could possibly describe the feeling. You did.

We are like different facets. And when light shines on a particular facet, that one shines and absorbs the information to reflect it in a way the other facets can understand.

I do feel like to be centered and know yourself is to look to the past and the future and outward.

(take believe out of my post up top, don't like that word)

That's why I believe seeing with heart...if the heart is pure, then so should the mind.
But I'm sure some would disagree...

Was it a means to an end that was important. Justify the means as long as the outcome was 'right'.

Without proper knowledge or information, this is the only option.

That is my desire...pure heart, pure mind therefor it is...

If you desire it to be something different, it will be for you.

Have you ever seen who do you think you are? Reba was on not too long ago, I thought she was going to freak when she learned of her ancestors with slaves...she could not understand for she did not live during that time. When she got to her 8x great grandparents and how the mother died shortly after birth and how the father sent their son on a ship at 9 years of age whom was also recorded as a slave...had to work off many years in the tobacco fields...but after the journey and discovery of his sacrifice...she learned it was the only way he could start a new life and live it. She learned it was because of that great sacrifice, she was standing here today...she cried and told them she understood and thanked them...

And I agree. If purity is what you seek, then seek you should. I've never been one to seek purity for IMO purity lacks awareness. What I seek? Compassionate heart that trades purity for understanding and lack of judgement. Open, inquisitive mind that trades purity for that ability to create and innovate. In a pure state, I believe we'd be grazing with our pets and cattle, uncaring and unaware of the world around us. Incorruptibility and freedom, those are the targets my arrows seek. (Otherwise I'd feel like a sitting duck for those who don't share my vision!)

Note: (I'm getting bad of putting them in to clarify, but it's only to take the sting out of what might be construed as judgement...) I see innocence as seeing the world for what it is and embracing and loving other any way, in spite of and sometimes because of their faults. It's not my place to forgive them as many times, the label of sin gets slapped on because of the perceptions of others, not the act of sin itself.

I realize my reaction to their actions comes from my inability to see the world through their eyes, thus I have no right to assume they mean what I "think" they mean. I try not to project my experiences/projections on the words of another. THAT is the height of madness as we can both say the same thing in different words and fight about it... when we're stating the same thing, lol.

My desire is love, patience, and discrimination.

No, no I haven't. I make my history clear. I was given to people who didn't create me at six weeks old. I found out I was given to them at six years old. Now while this bothered me in a sickeningly profound way for the longest time, I found my attitude shifted when I pulled myself from the morass of "poor me". How? I watched blood families around me treat each other as doormats, dishrags and punching bags. For as many "acts of love" I witnessed, I saw just as many "acts of hate" that were automatically expected to be forgiven due to the blood relation. I also found a complete freedom from the past by realizing that once you "know" your blood ties, your birth right, you're tied to the sins of your fathers and mothers. IF and only IF you allow it.

It's like when my mom, not known for her tact, assumed that I'd be militantly pro-life since I was adopted. She freaked when I actually considered every side of the issue without emotion. While I am pro-life, more so because of the times we live in where if your condom breaks there's Plan B... I found myself in my birth mother's shoes... and realized it would have totally been her right to choose to abort me. I'm thankful she didn't, but wouldn't condemn her if she had. That wasn't my path to walk, not one I'd choose, but I have no right to decide for someone else, even, especially an ancestor. She's part of me always, even if I never know her... but she's not all I am and aside from that action, she has nothing at all to do with me. The past is the past, we can learn from it, but it feels a mistake to revere it as the "good old days" and assume they had their shit together anymore than we do in the here and now.

Revered good ole days and worshipping seems to be something you are stuck on...it is what it is...good or bad...but knowing it seems to make knowing it more clear...no one ever said anything about worshipping...in fact, they are not comming to anyone for worship...they are here to help us in the next transition.

Genealogy is a tricky thing. There could be whoopsies all in the tree. I mean there was in mine. My last name growing up I have no blood kin to, crazy! Didn't even know till a few years ago.

I think it's a cool path to travel....looking into ancestors. Everyone is different and if it helps for one's development, then hey that's great!

I like this saying:

If we approach the ocean with a cup – then we get a cupful of water

Very true. I found out that I was part English instead of French Canadian when my grandmother passed away. It was only disclosed at that time that she was adopted. I'm sure situations like that are very hard to track/recover.


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okay there is more

if we approach the ocean with a cup – then we get a cupful of water, the bigger the vessel the more we are able to carry. There is no meaning in blaming the ocean for what we have.

Yeah, they hide that stuff for their own reasons. I think that time era it was frowned upon to disclose stuff like this, my guess anyway.

Yes, it can be very tricky...and time consuming. I remember my father advising me to be careful, I may find something I do not wish to find. I thought long and hard before continuing on...and I'm glad I did choose to do so...50X is a long journey...

It really is a cool path. My parents do that and they found some interesting things!

Just read this:


What you experience now is not a beginning; it is a continuation of the past.

But is pertaining to individual self.

huh, didn't know this

maya or illusion is transitory world of names and forms

So if looking into the past ancestors (general) you would have to see past the names and forms of time?

I'm not sure I follow that...meaning understand it...I go mostly by indentifying the emotion and making connections that took me a long time to connect...pieces from past that just recently are comming together.