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Anonymous Coward User ID: 15788170 United States 05/23/2012 06:16 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Dowsing, connecting to the collective memory field to find things. (Mugin) Thought and memory, like Odin's ravens in the symbolic consciousnesses, misconstrued by many. Just the first thought I had on reading those words. |
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SPIRAL COBRA User ID: 16041860 Mexico 05/23/2012 06:21 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Last Edited by SPIRAL COBRA on 06/13/2012 01:41 PM "Before you diagnose yourself with depression or low self-esteem, first make sure that you are not, in fact, just surrounded by assholes." William Gibson |
aether User ID: 1412926 United Kingdom 05/23/2012 06:23 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | dowsing Quoting: aether communicative intuition? between you and it whatever the it is our ability to feel is our ability to detect a weak magnetic field all things radiate a field electricity = magnetic field exorcism as above i imagine Hmmmmmm. have different experiences with the dowsing. pendulum, one needs to find out what directions are yes or no. often this is easy to do. rods, they seem to go pretty well on their own. wood, not much happen with it, have one around the house somewhere. maybe give it a shot again in the future. sorry, i still can not see how a cleaning and divination are the same??? oh good point spiral, i am describing myself as in: i am the artifact i have no experiencing of utilizing something other than myself to either detect or communicate sorry i misunderstood your post |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 819998 United States 05/23/2012 06:26 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Between exorcism and dowsing the connection for me about filtering from an interaction perspective...energy fields communicating with other energy fields. An exchange of energy...for information purposes. exorcism is the religious practice of evicting demons or other spiritual entities from a person or place which they are believed to have possessed dowsing is a type of divination employed in attempts to locate something The human body is basically like a filter. We are funneling all kinds of data/information that comes in... And our personality/soul/what ever it is that's US...is kinda like a translator of all that physical environment data. I don't see exorcism or dowsing as different because to me they are just the same things...a form of perspective filter. Until you get into the context anyway... |
SPIRAL COBRA User ID: 16041860 Mexico 05/23/2012 06:29 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Last Edited by SPIRAL COBRA on 06/13/2012 01:42 PM "Before you diagnose yourself with depression or low self-esteem, first make sure that you are not, in fact, just surrounded by assholes." William Gibson |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 15788170 United States 05/23/2012 06:38 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | dowsing Quoting: aether communicative intuition? between you and it whatever the it is our ability to feel is our ability to detect a weak magnetic field all things radiate a field electricity = magnetic field exorcism as above i imagine Hmmmmmm. have different experiences with the dowsing. pendulum, one needs to find out what directions are yes or no. often this is easy to do. rods, they seem to go pretty well on their own. wood, not much happen with it, have one around the house somewhere. maybe give it a shot again in the future. sorry, i still can not see how a cleaning and divination are the same??? oh good point spiral, i am describing myself as in: i am the artifact i have no experiencing of utilizing something other than myself to either detect or communicate sorry i misunderstood your post Well I would guess we are the artifact when it comes to using the pendulum. With rod/wood I have the feeling it is another energy that is making it work. Just because the tools differ doesn't equate difference in result. They merely focus what's already inside providing not a shortcut, that's the wrong word, maybe boost? It's all about accessing the same portions of the mind. But then I'm not a fan of the either/or paradigm... why can't it be both and more? |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 10696752 United States 05/23/2012 07:54 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The method of the urim and thummim(phonics,lol) led to great delusions for Joseph smith. Could of had divine interactions, but with that also had to have neg entities, just because when using divination it is opening the flood gates to everything. Which seemingly, IMO, created a mega ego that lead to his demise. |
SPIRAL COBRA User ID: 16041860 Mexico 05/23/2012 07:59 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Last Edited by SPIRAL COBRA on 06/13/2012 01:43 PM "Before you diagnose yourself with depression or low self-esteem, first make sure that you are not, in fact, just surrounded by assholes." William Gibson |
141 User ID: 10696752 United States 05/23/2012 07:59 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The method of the urim and thummim(phonics,lol) led to great delusions for Joseph smith. Could of had divine interactions, but with that also had to have neg entities, just because when using divination it is opening the flood gates to everything. Which seemingly, IMO, created a mega ego that lead to his demise. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 10696752 Plus he interacted with the masons, which makes me wonder if he was looking for answers about spirituality and became even more corrupted from there. There is a YouTube about richard gere being Joseph smith new incarnation, if true, looks like he zenned out awesomely. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 15788170 United States 05/23/2012 08:05 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The method of the urim and thummim(phonics,lol) led to great delusions for Joseph smith. Could of had divine interactions, but with that also had to have neg entities, just because when using divination it is opening the flood gates to everything. Which seemingly, IMO, created a mega ego that lead to his demise. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 10696752 I sense there's a connection between this concept and Odin's ravens Hugin and Munin, thought and memory. Anyone else get that feeling? I'm digging for non-pdf sources, but my intuition tells me there's more to the similarities than meets the eye. |
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141 User ID: 10696752 United States 05/23/2012 08:10 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The method of the urim and thummim(phonics,lol) led to great delusions for Joseph smith. Could of had divine interactions, but with that also had to have neg entities, just because when using divination it is opening the flood gates to everything. Which seemingly, IMO, created a mega ego that lead to his demise. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 10696752 I sense there's a connection between this concept and Odin's ravens Hugin and Munin, thought and memory. Anyone else get that feeling? I'm digging for non-pdf sources, but my intuition tells me there's more to the similarities than meets the eye. Sounds similar. A few pages back were some links on the language of the birds which talked about Odin. I think you are on to something. Haven't really read up on Odin. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 15788170 United States 05/23/2012 08:13 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The method of the urim and thummim(phonics,lol) led to great delusions for Joseph smith. Could of had divine interactions, but with that also had to have neg entities, just because when using divination it is opening the flood gates to everything. Which seemingly, IMO, created a mega ego that lead to his demise. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 10696752 I sense there's a connection between this concept and Odin's ravens Hugin and Munin, thought and memory. Anyone else get that feeling? I'm digging for non-pdf sources, but my intuition tells me there's more to the similarities than meets the eye. Sounds similar. A few pages back were some links on the language of the birds which talked about Odin. I think you are on to something. Haven't really read up on Odin. He received them as a gift from Hela before she was sent to be "Queen of the Underworld". But it fits, damnit, even if only in my own mind, lol. Wiki Article: [link to en.wikipedia.org] Scholars have linked Odin's relation to Huginn and Muninn to shamanic practice. John Lindow relates Odin's ability to send his "thought" (Huginn) and "mind" (Muninn) to the trance-state journey of shamans. Lindow says the Grímnismál stanza where Odin worries about the return of Huginn and Muninn "would be consistent with the danger that the shaman faces on the trance-state journey." |
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SPIRAL COBRA User ID: 16041860 Mexico 05/23/2012 08:31 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Last Edited by SPIRAL COBRA on 06/13/2012 01:43 PM "Before you diagnose yourself with depression or low self-esteem, first make sure that you are not, in fact, just surrounded by assholes." William Gibson |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 10696752 United States 05/23/2012 08:43 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The method of the urim and thummim(phonics,lol) led to great delusions for Joseph smith. Could of had divine interactions, but with that also had to have neg entities, just because when using divination it is opening the flood gates to everything. Which seemingly, IMO, created a mega ego that lead to his demise. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 10696752 I sense there's a connection between this concept and Odin's ravens Hugin and Munin, thought and memory. Anyone else get that feeling? I'm digging for non-pdf sources, but my intuition tells me there's more to the similarities than meets the eye. Sounds similar. A few pages back were some links on the language of the birds which talked about Odin. I think you are on to something. Haven't really read up on Odin. He received them as a gift from Hela before she was sent to be "Queen of the Underworld". But it fits, damnit, even if only in my own mind, lol. Wiki Article: [link to en.wikipedia.org] Scholars have linked Odin's relation to Huginn and Muninn to shamanic practice. John Lindow relates Odin's ability to send his "thought" (Huginn) and "mind" (Muninn) to the trance-state journey of shamans. Lindow says the Grímnismál stanza where Odin worries about the return of Huginn and Muninn "would be consistent with the danger that the shaman faces on the trance-state journey." Yeah sounds like trance state. I don't know if Joseph smith was in a state when he used the urim and thummim, I would think so because he wrote a long book, or translated lol. Interesting! |
141 User ID: 10696752 United States 05/23/2012 08:48 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Between exorcism and dowsing the connection for me about filtering from an interaction perspective...energy fields communicating with other energy fields. An exchange of energy...for information purposes. exorcism is the religious practice of evicting demons or other spiritual entities from a person or place which they are believed to have possessed dowsing is a type of divination employed in attempts to locate something The human body is basically like a filter. We are funneling all kinds of data/information that comes in... And our personality/soul/what ever it is that's US...is kinda like a translator of all that physical environment data. I don't see exorcism or dowsing as different because to me they are just the same things...a form of perspective filter. Until you get into the context anyway... See what you are saying. Sorry, I have to respectfully disagree. Yes, we are filters of a sort, of what, the hell if I know? lets try and look at the word Banishing Its kind of like the word Exorcism except the B-word is less intense than the E-word. There are those that are spiritualist mediums, have been around these types of persons often enough to know a fake from a real. These peeps always need a banishing afterwards. Thankfully, haven't the experience of looking at a full on possessed person crawling up the walls.(guessing I would hope to have a really big umbrella at that point) What I'm saying, is that divination and exorcism are not one in the same unless you have seen/experienced the difference between the two. As always, one needs to see to believe.. So, I understand that we will not see eye to eye on this subject, we all have are own learning/seeing to do. No worries :) I think divination is a form of meditation and exorcism would not be used in a meditative state. |
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aether User ID: 1412926 United Kingdom 05/23/2012 09:01 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | dowsing Quoting: aether communicative intuition? between you and it whatever the it is our ability to feel is our ability to detect a weak magnetic field all things radiate a field electricity = magnetic field exorcism as above i imagine Hmmmmmm. have different experiences with the dowsing. pendulum, one needs to find out what directions are yes or no. often this is easy to do. rods, they seem to go pretty well on their own. wood, not much happen with it, have one around the house somewhere. maybe give it a shot again in the future. sorry, i still can not see how a cleaning and divination are the same??? oh good point spiral, i am describing myself as in: i am the artifact i have no experiencing of utilizing something other than myself to either detect or communicate sorry i misunderstood your post There is something else in this post I wish to address. Utilizing ones self So you are saying, you just trust into your own feelings and/or remote viewing, Do they pan out? Speaking for most(not all)females perspectives, thoughts and feelings often dont warrant what the actual result comes out to be. never tried remote viewing...requires lots of practice and discipline, doesn't it? well i experience two forms of communication anything excluding people and people including anything the anything is straight forward as in: i get to the bottom of the meaning when i desire to or at least discover enough for me to be happy to continue discovering whilst implementing my discoveries the people plus everything i find complex because of peoples complexity , in my opinion, concerning anything including themselves often i discover difference between a person(s) and my translation of the meaning of anything else and it`s meaning to us until quite recently i didn`t attempt to discover why that is, i moved on and did what i was always going to do Last Edited by aether on 05/23/2012 09:02 PM |
aether User ID: 1412926 United Kingdom 05/23/2012 09:06 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Urim and Thummim In ancient Israelite religion and culture, Urim and Thummim is a phrase from the Hebrew Scriptures or Torah associated with the hoshen (High Priest's breastplate), divination in general, and cleromancy in particular. Most scholars suspect that the phrase refers to specific objects involved in the divination Quoting: observation[link to en.wikipedia.org] oh i never heard of that before now when those words were posted i thought nothing |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 6669575 United States 05/23/2012 09:08 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Thread: Greece dead center of earthquake fault whirlpool vortex. Lines up with Whirlpool Galaxy M51. IMAGE ( [link to i47.tinypic.com] ) [link to i47.tinypic.com] I discovered this shape while researching the quakes in Northern Italy and Bulgaria. I noticed the same Frozen Swirl pattern as the frozen Swirl patterns found on Mars recently. If you notice the quakes in this vicinity are also in a sort of swirl pattern. Also notice how the pieces of land mass appear to be torn and drawn towards the center of this vortex. The Island of Ktapodia Nisida lays right in the center of this vortex. Is this already known? What it is called? What could it possibly mean? Link to photo of frozen swirl on Mars; [link to www.google.com] |
aether User ID: 1412926 United Kingdom 05/23/2012 09:10 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Urim and Thummim Quoting: aether In ancient Israelite religion and culture, Urim and Thummim is a phrase from the Hebrew Scriptures or Torah associated with the hoshen (High Priest's breastplate), divination in general, and cleromancy in particular. Most scholars suspect that the phrase refers to specific objects involved in the divination Quoting: observation[link to en.wikipedia.org] oh i never heard of that before now when those words were posted i thought nothing History of use A passage of the Books of Samuel mentions three methods of divine communication - dreams, prophets, and the Urim and Thummim; the first two of these are also mentioned copiously in Assyrian and Babylonian literature, and such literature also mentions Tablets of Destiny, which are similar in some ways to the Urim and Thummim. The Tablets of Destiny had to rest on the breast of deities mediating between the other gods and mankind in order to function, while the Urim and Thummim had to rest within the breastplate of the priest mediating between Yahuah and mankind. Marduk was said to have put his seal on the Tablets of Destiny, while the Israelite breastplate had a jewelled stone upon it for each of the Israelite tribes, which may derive from the same principle. Like the Urim and Thummim, the Tablets of Destiny came into use when the fate of king and nation was concerned Quoting: observationLast Edited by aether on 05/23/2012 09:12 PM |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 16458592 United States 05/23/2012 10:48 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Thread: Greece dead center of earthquake fault whirlpool vortex. Lines up with Whirlpool Galaxy M51. Quoting: ArunaLuna IMAGE ( [link to i47.tinypic.com] ) [link to i47.tinypic.com] I discovered this shape while researching the quakes in Northern Italy and Bulgaria. I noticed the same Frozen Swirl pattern as the frozen Swirl patterns found on Mars recently. If you notice the quakes in this vicinity are also in a sort of swirl pattern. Also notice how the pieces of land mass appear to be torn and drawn towards the center of this vortex. The Island of Ktapodia Nisida lays right in the center of this vortex. Is this already known? What it is called? What could it possibly mean? Link to photo of frozen swirl on Mars; [link to www.google.com] not seeing it |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 6669575 United States 05/23/2012 10:55 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | now why would you say that its really funny how one comment can turn into something so bizzar Probably because that song is about the plague. [link to en.wikipedia.org] ROFL |