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aether  User ID: 1412926  United Kingdom05/30/2012 05:14 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If we take matter to be electrons and protons and that which they form (i.e. neutrons and atoms) and we take aether to be everything else, then the answer is no. All that we may say about matter is that it has material substance, which is mass, and that it may have motion, both linear and spin. Beyond this all "force effects" are due to the interaction of matter with the aether, such that the aether also mediates force effects between matter Quoting: observation (CERN)Usually the baryonic matter is not considered to be "something else" from the space-time aether. Rather, e.g, the proton is a disturbance of this space-time. This is called field theory. For example in the vicinity of a proton we say there is a non-zero mass density, or rather a non-vanishing stress-energy tensor, which also disturbs the space-time metric of the space around it. Quoting: nasa THEMIS 30thMay 2012Can you say that we have tornadoes and hurricanes, and everything else is the atmosphere? No, these structures are made of the atmosphere. Baryon A baryon is a composite subatomic particle made up of three quarks (as distinct from mesons, which comprise one quark and one antiquark) Quoting: observation[link to en.wikipedia.org] swinger you got an opinion of nasa`s comment? Last Edited by aether on 05/30/2012 05:15 AM |
| aether User ID: 1412926 United Kingdom05/30/2012 05:22 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | nasa still has time locked into their model as a dimension that`s fucked   Last Edited by aether on 05/30/2012 05:22 AM |
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| aether User ID: 1412926 United Kingdom05/30/2012 08:46 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | feedback: Quoting: aether If we take matter to be electrons and protons and that which they form (i.e. neutrons and atoms) and we take aether to be everything else, then the answer is no. All that we may say about matter is that it has material substance, which is mass, and that it may have motion, both linear and spin. Beyond this all "force effects" are due to the interaction of matter with the aether, such that the aether also mediates force effects between matter Quoting: observation (CERN)Usually the baryonic matter is not considered to be "something else" from the space-time aether. Rather, e.g, the proton is a disturbance of this space-time. This is called field theory. For example in the vicinity of a proton we say there is a non-zero mass density, or rather a non-vanishing stress-energy tensor, which also disturbs the space-time metric of the space around it. Quoting: nasa THEMIS 30thMay 2012Can you say that we have tornadoes and hurricanes, and everything else is the atmosphere? No, these structures are made of the atmosphere. Baryon A baryon is a composite subatomic particle made up of three quarks (as distinct from mesons, which comprise one quark and one antiquark) Quoting: observation[link to en.wikipedia.org] swinger you got an opinion of nasa`s comment? When something cannot be seen it may seem prudent to describe it only by its affects, and this is a perfectly reasonable scientific scepticism. The problem arises that this leads to the object being referred to and treated as its affects, which is to ignore cause and effect. This also rules out the possibility of even asking the question: how and why do these effects manifest?. Quoting: replyRather than attempting to define a model where protons and electrons are treated as real discrete objects that interact with an aethereal field, they are treated as only as associated numerical variables. There are obvious advantages to the mathematical construct approach. However, I am of the firm opinion that the universe is in no way magical and that therefore it is purely and completely physical (some may declare this to be a belief system, I view as an absence of belief system and a sound basis for objectivity). A physical universe must operate by mechanical rules, so probability functions are not a way of describing an object or process, they are a way of avoiding describing an object or process. Do we assume that the proton is an object with physical and interactional properties or do we take it to be the sum of its affects. Of course we may get ourselves into all sorts of semantic definitional tangles when trying to define the fundamental physical difference between a spoon and the invisible undetectable objects that cause the spoon to experience gravity or magnetism: material/immaterial, matter/aether, etc.. Recently I used the analogy of a sand castle on a beach of sand to compare to an aether particle "photon structure" in an aether particle field. Your tornado/atmosphere analogy is interestingly similar. But is it a valid analogy to describe a proton, does the tornado does not have a stable lifetime of at least 1029 years. |
| aether User ID: 1412926 United Kingdom05/30/2012 08:49 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | When something cannot be seen it may seem prudent to describe it only by its affects, and this is a perfectly reasonable scientific scepticism. The problem arises that this leads to the object being referred to and treated as its affects, which is to ignore cause and effect. This also rules out the possibility of even asking the question: how and why do these effects manifest?. Quoting: replynow we know cern has to support a physical origin for the above reality ..............watch this space.........  |
| aether User ID: 1412926 United Kingdom05/30/2012 09:16 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | When something cannot be seen it may seem prudent to describe it only by its affects, and this is a perfectly reasonable scientific scepticism. The problem arises that this leads to the object being referred to and treated as its affects, which is to ignore cause and effect. This also rules out the possibility of even asking the question: how and why do these effects manifest?. Quoting: replynow we know cern has to support a physical origin for the above reality ..............watch this space......... the cause of cause singular effect underpinning all sequences of effects is the known answer which being non material forms the geometry (tensegrity) within our non material dimensions that manifest as our material dimension classic shapes the classic shapes are formed to structure into function via the energy/information (charge) particles forming into them synchronizing, thus synergizing, with the intelligent field (s) the particles form within, thereafter forming layer upon layer of interlocking/functional structure until, the motivated (growing) layers of structure form the final structurally functioning shape, whatever that may be Last Edited by aether on 05/30/2012 09:19 AM |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 6669575 United States05/30/2012 09:26 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The shape of things to come... One of the major aspects in the creation of the World State envisioned by Wells is the complete crushing and eradication of all organized religion—an act deemed indispensable in order to give the emerging "Modern State" a monopoly over education and the complete ability to mould new generations of humanity worldwide into the required shape. Quoting: [link to en.wikipedia.org] The destruction of Islam is carried out by the Air Police, who "descend upon Mecca and close down the main holy places", apparently without major incident. Eventually, Islam disappears, its demise accelerated by the decay of Arabic and its replacement by "an expanded English". Some twenty mosques survive, deemed to be worthy of preservation on architectural grounds. There is only a single mention of Buddhism's abolition, and no reference to any serious problem encountered by the Modern State in eradicating it from East Asia. The most prolonged and formidable religious opposition envisaged by Wells is from the Catholic Church (there is little reference to Protestants). The Pope and entire Catholic hierarchy are gassed unconscious when blessing the new airplanes built by a revived Fascist Italy. After the Catholic Church is decisively crushed in Italy, it finds refuge in Ireland, "the last bastion of Christianity" which becomes a Catholic theocracy. Ireland is also subdued, after which limited Catholic resistance is maintained in Latin America, under "a coloured Pope in Pernambuco"—but it, too, is finally put down. Wells gives considerable attention to the fate of the jewish people. In this history, the enfeebled Nazi Germany is incapable of systematic murder on the scale of the Holocaust. However, jewish people greatly suffer from "unorganized" persecution, and there is a reference to anti-Jewish pogroms happening "everywhere in Europe" during the chaotic 1950's. And in a world where all nation-states were a doomed anachronism, Zionism and its ambition to create a new such state obviously came to naught. In the later struggle between the emerging world state and its opponents, jewish people are seen as caught between the hammer and the anvil. Following the launch of its anti-religious campaign, the Modern State closes down all kosher butcheries still in operation - while the opening act of the "Federated Nationalist" rebels opposing this state is to perpetrate a pogrom against jewish people in the Frankfurt area. Eventually, in Wells's vision, it is the Modern State's forced assimilation which wins out and the jewish people—who had resisted earlier such pressures—become completely absorbed in the general society and lose their separate identity. |
| aether User ID: 1412926 United Kingdom05/30/2012 09:31 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | so we have intelligent (motivated) shapes (structures) functioning (living) within an intelligent (motivated) functioning environment (structure) no matter the scale or shape of the material shape(s) they are always formed and maintained by the same non material dimensions of our material dimension and both material and non material express (function) the same way you and "everything that is not you" are bound by the same everything except your and it`s choice of how you each image all that is not you , to you on the basis that you, whomever you may be, did not form "all that is not you", the question is maybe what is "all that is not you", to you ? because that question is the root question no one in authority is prepared to endorse, at this moment it is the point of the debate currently scheduled to be completed 12.12.2014 |
| aether User ID: 1412926 United Kingdom05/30/2012 09:33 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | so we have intelligent (motivated) shapes (structures) functioning (living) within an intelligent (motivated) functioning environment (structure) Quoting: aether no matter the scale or shape of the material shape(s) they are always formed and maintained by the same non material dimensions of our material dimension and both material and non material express (function) the same way you and "everything that is not you" are bound by the same everything except your and it`s choice of how you each image all that is not you , to you on the basis that you, whomever you may be, did not form "all that is not you", the question is maybe what is "all that is not you", to you ? because that question is the root question no one in authority is prepared to endorse, at this moment it is the point of the debate currently scheduled to be completed 12.12.2014 The shape of things to come... Quoting: aruna |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 16940967 United States05/30/2012 09:40 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Gawd...and you call me sick cobra...you got real issues...I have hidden behind nobody...and I do not use people...I'm on this thread because it is the only one I am even interested in atm. Its where I have some natural connections and where I study and feel comfortable sharing...if it don't interest you, then overlook it...as you said before, you can smell my shit first sentence...which yea, really contradicts the hiding you claim I do... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1095970 Wf All Hail holy Mum of many ips Why so angry if I haven't touched on any truths? :stau1111: I'm not angry...in fact your actions here again last night just showed more people how you really are. Don't you find it odd everyone you have conflict with uses the same description of your actions "twist", you twist shit all the time...sad part is, from what I have witnessed has all started with your poor understanding of another...like what you pulled on Aruna...same thing you pulled on me in the very beginning...and btw....I'm surprised the posts you made here last night have not been deleted yet by you...since that is your usual pattern... I don't like snakes...but they do serve their purpose in nature just like anything else....they don't bother me, but when I have encountered them in the woods, they scare me... One time I stomped one to death out of fear. Yea, came up on one going into the woods early before daylight....it was still curled up sleeping and as I entered my blind first stepp in I stepped right on top of it....crap, all I could do was keep stomping it...the heavy hunting boots assisted...needless to say, my adrenaline rush was so high, I just sat in my blind and never even nocked an arrow that morning...could not hunt from all the shaking... wf and the mum stuff...does not bother me but I am still waiting again on you backing up your accusations...you know the pms you claim I am in contact with others on this site with an account deleted quite some time ago...the ip accusations I believe I explained to all here...more than once...it's really getting old you keep bringing that up...along with the same old shit...you sound like a broken record... and for your information, I deleted my last account because you were playing games with the other ladies...that giving them red karma and then accusing me of it...but that like came back and bit you in the ass later. Funny how that truth came out...if I had not given you know who a green karma that day...I could not have proven my truth about it. All I would have known to tell them would have been check the pattern of weekly green karma you usualy give them and look at the skipped week....why? because you can only give karma every 7 days as you already know this...so there would have been a longer period of no karma from you...yea, like a skipped week it would look like. (cause you gave em red)...I have to hand it to you....you are sneaky. oh...you also accused me of making a thread about ip's...I'm still waiting on that one too...If I recall correctly, your last reply after making that false claim was that you weren't going to waste your time searching for it...lame excuse...you had no problem searching for shit from 2 years ago and sending it to gogo to post on here...(we all know gogo ain't gonna spend her time looking it up....she would have told you to find it and she would post it)...yea I know... so put up or shut up... |
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| aether User ID: 1412926 United Kingdom05/30/2012 10:11 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Positive Lightning Strikes Intensify As Cosmic Rays Increase 29th May 2012 Look at the photos below which are being taken with increasing regularity around the world. These are real photos capturing Positive Lightning Strikes within various contexts across the planet. Do you notice the extraordinary power and intensity of the lightning? These are most often Positive Lightning Strikes, which are substantially larger, more powerful, and more destructive than the regular lightning that comes with a normal thunderstorm............. Quoting: observation[link to cosmicconvergence.org] |
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| Swinging on Spirals User ID: 865798 United States05/30/2012 10:48 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation |  "Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming, "Wow! What a Ride!" We do not Die, We Awaken to the Dream that We Lived. |
| aether User ID: 1412926 United Kingdom05/30/2012 10:51 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | okay Quoting: aether the circle the yin/yang symbol is written inside is the vorticle symbol so the people that wrote the original yin/yang symbol were writing it for an audience already aware that the circle is the singular effect of the two forces therefore upon seeing what is inside the circle, the yin/yang symbol, they would know what it said remember a whole ago we were discovering the origin of the circular culture`s use of a vortical (rotating) sign (circle) Lastnight I was reading about a concept called progressive revelation (which I'd never heard before) but it is based in the core teachings of the Bahai faith and talks about how every so often there are manifested messengers who bring the true voice of god to humankind and this is the basis for the different versions of religion. Quoting: ArunaLuna (nutshell...how I interpreted it anyway) It was interesting reading up on this thread then with the language of the angels (angles) etc...being mentioned.  The Rodin coil, the mathematical secret of all? Marko Rodin This led Marko into a journey of thoroughly studying all the world's great religions. When he was introduced to the Bahai Faith he immediately became a believer. Literally days later Marko decided to take The Most Great Name of Bahaullah (prophet of the Bahai Faith) which is Abha and convert it into numbers. He did this in an effort to discover the true precise mystical intonation of The Most Great Name of God. Since the Bahai sacred scripture was originally written in Persian and Arabic Marko used the Abjad numerical notation system for this letter to number translation. This was a sacred system of allocating a unique numerical value to each letter of the 27 letters of the alphabet so that secret quantum mechanic physics could be encoded into words. What Marko discovered was that (A=1, b=2, h=5, a=1) = 9. The fact that The Most Great Name of God equaled 9 seemed very important to him as everything he had read in both the Bahai scriptures and other religious text spoke of nine being the omni-potent number. So next he drew out a circle with nine on top and 1 through 8 going around the circle clockwise. Then he discovered a very intriguing number system within this circle. Marko knew he had stumbled upon something very profound. This circle with its hidden number sequence was the "Symbol of Enlightenment." This is the MATHEMATICAL FINGER PRINT OF GOD. Quoting: observation[link to www.soulsofdistortion.nl] Thread: TWO WITNESSES--What do They Witness About? (Page 32) we don`t know why marko chose to place what he has to tell within a circle to tell it but we do know that if you apply the vortical sign knowing the only two causes/forces, the cause of cause, that does form the original shaped motivated motion within all is charge and field, you are from that knowing able to satisfy both marko`s and tesla`s 369 in both how and why those labeled by number structures function as they do Last Edited by aether on 05/30/2012 10:55 AM |
| Swinging on Spirals User ID: 865798 United States05/30/2012 10:54 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | feedback: Quoting: aether If we take matter to be electrons and protons and that which they form (i.e. neutrons and atoms) and we take aether to be everything else, then the answer is no. All that we may say about matter is that it has material substance, which is mass, and that it may have motion, both linear and spin. Beyond this all "force effects" are due to the interaction of matter with the aether, such that the aether also mediates force effects between matter Quoting: observation (CERN)Usually the baryonic matter is not considered to be "something else" from the space-time aether. Rather, e.g, the proton is a disturbance of this space-time. This is called field theory. For example in the vicinity of a proton we say there is a non-zero mass density, or rather a non-vanishing stress-energy tensor, which also disturbs the space-time metric of the space around it. Quoting: nasa THEMIS 30thMay 2012Can you say that we have tornadoes and hurricanes, and everything else is the atmosphere? No, these structures are made of the atmosphere. Baryon A baryon is a composite subatomic particle made up of three quarks (as distinct from mesons, which comprise one quark and one antiquark) Quoting: observation[link to en.wikipedia.org] swinger you got an opinion of nasa`s comment? Yeah...there's something here. They are all talking our language now, so my/our thoughts on this stuff should be surfacing more easily. Give me a sec while I go through it all and see what pops up. "Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming, "Wow! What a Ride!" We do not Die, We Awaken to the Dream that We Lived. |
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| aether User ID: 1412926 United Kingdom05/30/2012 10:59 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | well the time 12.12.2014 is the time the men with the guns and bullets have given their troops to complete their debate not a date i have reason to think about Lol...no I meant the annihilation of...completed by the date. It was a lawn dart...  oh well your dart hit reality as they do |
| Swinging on Spirals User ID: 865798 United States05/30/2012 11:26 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Usually the baryonic matter is not considered to be "something else" from the space-time aether. Rather, e.g, the proton is a disturbance of this space-time. This is called field theory. For example in the vicinity of a proton we say there is a non-zero mass density, or rather a non-vanishing stress-energy tensor, which also disturbs the space-time metric of the space around it. Quoting: nasa THEMIS 30thMay 2012Can you say that we have tornadoes and hurricanes, and everything else is the atmosphere? No, these structures are made of the atmosphere. This is exactly what we have been trying to say. We've got the field that is 'dormant' until the disturbance comes along. Zero mass density would be the dormant area of field we always say is out there, but cannot be 'seen' because it is not 'material'. That's got to be damn frustrating on their end. This is awesome, I just got a flash. Dammit, I just got interrupted at work as soon as I received that flash. I'm going to back off for a minute or two and clear my head, and come back... This sucks. I may have lost that flash. I'll ignore it and carry on. The reason they are using baryonic matter is because it is 'strong', in other words, they will get some good variance in the once dormant - now, non-zero mass density - field. Again, we are seeing that no ONE thing comes into existence. Always TWO things must come. The baryonic matter (mass) pulls the field into manifestation. Can't have one exist without the other. That is an extremely important concept going forward. NEVER look for just one aspect. There will always be two aspects. HA! Like you have been saying, aether, it is 2 aspects that create a singular effect! This is a perfect representation of that. OK, now lets go further. The stress-energy tensor is the source of the gravitational field in the Einstein field equations of general relativity, just as mass is the source of such a field in Newtonian gravity. [link to en.wikipedia.org] In general relativity, the symmetric stress-energy tensor acts as the source of spacetime curvature... That is because of the way charge and magnetism 'moves'. We have discussed this ad nausea. So, we are peeling back the layers to find out what is creating gravity. Like we have always surmised, it is not a 'separate' force. It arises somewhere within the original trinity that furthers in complexity. The original trinity being the concepts of charge/field/motion. Now, we were linking motion/motive to angular momentum...or light. Light is the constant that keeps the stress-energy tensor NON-VANISHING, and keeps the mass a NON-ZERO density. Last Edited by Swinging on Spirals on 05/30/2012 11:28 AM "Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming, "Wow! What a Ride!" We do not Die, We Awaken to the Dream that We Lived. |
| Swinging on Spirals User ID: 865798 United States05/30/2012 11:31 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I have come to the conclusion that 'dimensions' as humans think of them, do not exist. How's that for monkey wrench in the gears?! "Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming, "Wow! What a Ride!" We do not Die, We Awaken to the Dream that We Lived. |
| aether User ID: 1412926 United Kingdom05/30/2012 11:34 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Positive Lightning Strikes Intensify As Cosmic Rays Increase Quoting: aether 29th May 2012 Look at the photos below which are being taken with increasing regularity around the world. These are real photos capturing Positive Lightning Strikes within various contexts across the planet. Do you notice the extraordinary power and intensity of the lightning? These are most often Positive Lightning Strikes, which are substantially larger, more powerful, and more destructive than the regular lightning that comes with a normal thunderstorm............. Quoting: observation[link to cosmicconvergence.org] Clearly, there are major changes occurring in the atmosphere and elsewhere which are super-charging positive lightning strikes to a degree never seen before. There are credible theories which have postulated that an increase in cosmic ray activity is responsible for the uptick in this atmospheric phenomena. Perhaps it’s time for the scientific community to verify these theories with data they can easily acquire. Quoting: observationyou can see that lightening being caused by cosmic rays is a guess hanging over from the old model of our universe (standard model) whatever the cause one thing is clear, charge is increasing within our environment within our magnetosphere which means our cause of cause must be altering in singular effect also because just as our lightening symbols a changing structure and function ratio of effect, so will our cause of cause |
| Swinging on Spirals User ID: 865798 United States05/30/2012 11:34 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | When something cannot be seen it may seem prudent to describe it only by its affects, and this is a perfectly reasonable scientific scepticism. The problem arises that this leads to the object being referred to and treated as its affects, which is to ignore cause and effect. This also rules out the possibility of even asking the question: how and why do these effects manifest?. Quoting: replynow we know cern has to support a physical origin for the above reality ..............watch this space.........  This is exactly what we have been trying to say. We've got the field that is 'dormant' until the disturbance comes along. Zero mass density would be the dormant area of field we always say is out there, but cannot be 'seen' because it is not 'material'. That's got to be damn frustrating on their end. Quoting: Swinging on Spirals "Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming, "Wow! What a Ride!" We do not Die, We Awaken to the Dream that We Lived. |
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| Swinging on Spirals User ID: 865798 United States05/30/2012 11:40 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | That was awesome.  "Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming, "Wow! What a Ride!" We do not Die, We Awaken to the Dream that We Lived. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 16940967 United States05/30/2012 11:41 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | well the time 12.12.2014 is the time the men with the guns and bullets have given their troops to complete their debate not a date i have reason to think about  been watching about a time in history of a generational war...Hatfields and McCoys...talk about crazy...where the guns were the law and just a remark like fornicating with a dog got you shot dead...and then of course all the moonshine...lolwf |
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| Swinging on Spirals User ID: 865798 United States05/30/2012 11:42 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation |  "Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming, "Wow! What a Ride!" We do not Die, We Awaken to the Dream that We Lived. |
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| Swinging on Spirals User ID: 865798 United States05/30/2012 11:50 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | That's one of my new ones.  "Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming, "Wow! What a Ride!" We do not Die, We Awaken to the Dream that We Lived. |
@ time.