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Anonymous Coward User ID: 819998 United States 07/17/2012 09:05 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth, is come, he will guide you into all truth: for he shall not speak of himself; but whatsoever he shall hear, that shall he speak: and he will shew you things to come. Quoting: King James Bible (Cambridge Ed.)it possess a male personality (to jesus), it never promotes it`self but it does listen, understand and translate "all things" and says it in sequences of information understandable to humans now we know motion = sound so it tells what motion means as in" what the sequences of structures (shapes) mean and forms the meanings into sense Awesome... |
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Blue Skies User ID: 19168576 United States 07/17/2012 09:14 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | morning blue, it is warmer and dry here today both of which have been missing in the uk Quoting: aether i was talking to salt last night What exactly is the difference between the Kingdom of Heaven and the Kingdom of God? Thread: What exactly is the difference between the Kingdom of Heaven and the Kingdom of God? and discovered the spirit of god which jesus names, the spirit of truth and jesus tells that this spirit will tell us the information he didn`t tell us because we were not in possession of enough information to understand him Morning Aether.....Glad the weather is better for you today. We sure could use some rain. In a drought :( Maybe we will all be at stage soon. Where we will be ready to understand and able to understand, the big picture :) :kitten on fence: |
Blue Skies User ID: 19168576 United States 07/17/2012 09:17 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | oh Quoting: aether but it never did confuse anyone, it pissed people of because the popular belief of our hebrews neighbors is planetary gods of flesh and it pissed the neighbors off so much that our hebrews were continuously attacked for their belief to the point, after approx. 600 years they stopped openly practicing their beliefs yes tricky topic even today Are you saying that they where pissed because a god should not be in flesh? :kitten on fence: |
aether User ID: 1412926 United Kingdom 07/17/2012 09:43 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | oh Quoting: aether but it never did confuse anyone, it pissed people of because the popular belief of our hebrews neighbors is planetary gods of flesh and it pissed the neighbors off so much that our hebrews were continuously attacked for their belief to the point, after approx. 600 years they stopped openly practicing their beliefs yes tricky topic even today Are you saying that they where pissed because a god should not be in flesh? it`s origin blue It's amazing how frequently the earliest-remembered events occur on a mythscape of uncertain location. Where was the ancient paradise? Where did the gods and goddesses and heroes of the mythical epoch actually live? Beyond the north wind? Atop the world's highest mountain? In the land of the rising sun? On a lost island in the middle of the sea? Quoting: observationIf anything has been proven by the flood of ancient texts that have come to light in the past hundred and fifty years, it is that the central personalities of myth did not, in the original concepts, dwell on earth. The theater in which the great mythical events were first played out was in the sky. Here is an indisputable fact. If you will trace the claimed history of ancient nations backwards, you will invariably reach a point at which humankind lived in the shadow of the gods. This distant epoch--what the Egyptians called the "time of the primeval gods"--cries out for clarification. Originally, the gods rule the world. First in an age of gold, but this age was followed by catastrophe and cosmic upheaval. That is the archetypal memory repeated around the world. In their first appearance, the gods are celestial through and through. As the stories are told and re-told across the centuries, however, these celestial powers are progressively localized, re-entering the chronicles in increasingly human guise. All of the profound cosmic events expressed in the earliest myths are eventually brought down to earth. Through each culture’s intimate identification with its own gods across the centuries, the cosmic powers eventually emerged as legendary ancestors of the nation telling the story. Each of the nations recalling the Golden Age, for example, insisted that their own forefathers had descended from the gods. At first glance, this pervasive claim will appear as sheer arrogance, a nationalistic pride carried to absurd extremes. But the origins of the idea have never been adequately appreciated. In truth, the worldwide racial claim, that "we are descended from the gods," or that "our race was originally divine," or that "we were the favored children of the gods" offers a key to the primitive experience. It confirms early man's unqualified sense of connection to the enigmatic celestial powers so vividly portrayed in the myths. And one cannot afford to ignore the equally significant principle, that these celestial powers are no longer present, no longer visible and active in the world. all of the older cultures within the levant formed their belief of god(s) from physical entities they experienced in the sky above their heads so when people whom become known as hebrews resurrected the knowing that god is an invisible structure, the authorities of the societies the invisible god believers lived within were not happy and even when the invisible god believers left to live on their own they needed to occupy lands which the material god(s) believers occupied to do so this started the conflicts Last Edited by aether on 07/17/2012 09:44 AM |
aether User ID: 1412926 United Kingdom 07/17/2012 09:49 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Are you saying that they where pissed because a god should not be in flesh? Quoting: bluethe hebrews like early christians and muslims today believe that god, being invisible by nature, never does become flesh, thus becoming visible the main reason for their being so adamant about this is that to them, as soon as you believe god becomes material, you are forced to worship that which is material (mammon) today we have the same conflicts with cern denying the existence of reality that is not caused by material motion materiaism Last Edited by aether on 07/17/2012 09:50 AM |
aether User ID: 1412926 United Kingdom 07/17/2012 09:53 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The Great Spirit or Great Mystery is generally believed to be personal, close to the people, and immanent in the fabric of the material world Quoting: observation[link to en.wikipedia.org] the mound builders of america express it well |
aether User ID: 1412926 United Kingdom 07/17/2012 10:00 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Immanence Immanence refers to philosophical and metaphysical theories of divine presence, in which the divine is seen to be manifested in or encompassing the material world. Quoting: observation[link to en.wikipedia.org] the god of flesh planetary god believers reduced everything to 1 a single 1 location/point a single physical god (1) so instead of god being in all things god become a material something , somewhere and from this location the one god effected all things whilst never being that which it effected god was removed from reality and placed in an imagined reality the place no one gets to know but according to planet god believers this god does on occasion become human hence our tradition of many forms of god man titles from our past leaders like julius caesar for example |
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aether User ID: 1412926 United Kingdom 07/17/2012 10:32 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | God, the reality version...streamlined. Quoting: ArunaLuna Sparky AND efficient... Love it...the explanation! it`s funny to me aruna because i was just looking, for the first time, at definitions of god in wiki and the catholic encyclopedia wow instant headache accompanied by instant knowing stay with the field`s information aether |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 18349809 Canada 07/17/2012 11:03 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | God, the reality version...streamlined. Quoting: ArunaLuna Sparky AND efficient... Love it...the explanation! it`s funny to me aruna because i was just looking, for the first time, at definitions of god in wiki and the catholic encyclopedia wow instant headache accompanied by instant knowing stay with the field`s information aether Who is responsible for the definitions? As extremists usually voice their opinions irritatingly loudest and proudest. It also leads to the denominator becoming more base and common as repeatability of their entitlement is key. Look to the silenced voices for definition which are transitory as this is the key to the sheerest and surest part of life. Madness grips those who hold tightest. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 18349809 Canada 07/17/2012 11:05 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | God, the reality version...streamlined. Quoting: ArunaLuna Sparky AND efficient... Love it...the explanation! The reality is as manyfold as their is the will to explore. The rules and patterns of construction few and unwavering. It has always been about controlling fire, from cave to high tech nanotech. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 18349809 Canada 07/17/2012 11:08 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | a life experience that experiences experiences from life of real meaning Quoting: aether as in: you discover by living yes living in a self aware environment (intelligent) hence the life experiences match/correspond to the intelligence of the possessor (person) who`s life is experiencing the experiences (feedback) deism As willingness to be silent is a measure of intelligence, thus awareness. Otherwise all that you hear and experience is you, thus bias. A quote: whatever intelligence discovered water; You can bet it wasn't a fish. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 819997 United States 07/17/2012 11:16 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | God, the reality version...streamlined. Quoting: ArunaLuna Sparky AND efficient... Love it...the explanation! it`s funny to me aruna because i was just looking, for the first time, at definitions of god in wiki and the catholic encyclopedia wow instant headache accompanied by instant knowing stay with the field`s information aether [link to www.youtube.com] And I'm so glad you do...and showed me too! |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 819997 United States 07/17/2012 11:21 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | God, the reality version...streamlined. Quoting: ArunaLuna Sparky AND efficient... Love it...the explanation! The reality is as manyfold as their is the will to explore. The rules and patterns of construction few and unwavering. It has always been about controlling fire, from cave to high tech nanotech. You're like the stoned guy in the corner...who just says words that mean something on a whole other dimension than the one we're all in... Hit or miss...I guess. |
aether User ID: 1412926 United Kingdom 07/17/2012 11:24 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | their functions form broader meaning once the environment that forms and supports their manifestation is incorporated into their meaning sequencing them into life as our knowing of what life is expands |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 4768415 United States 07/17/2012 11:40 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | God, the reality version...streamlined. Quoting: ArunaLuna Sparky AND efficient... Love it...the explanation! The reality is as manyfold as their is the will to explore. The rules and patterns of construction few and unwavering. It has always been about controlling fire, from cave to high tech nanotech. In The Hypostasis of the Archons (The Reality of the Rulers), Norea is the daughter of Eve and the younger sister of Seth; both are members of the pure race. The archons (demonic rulers of the world) decide to destroy the world with a deluge, but their leader, the evil Demiurge, warns Noah to build an ark, which Norea tries to board. Noah stops her, so she blows upon the ark and sets it ablaze. The archons try to rape her, but she cries to God for help. The angel Eleleth appears and frightens the archons away before revealing her origins; she is a child of God. Quoting: [link to en.wikipedia.org] Controlling fire: Seems a theme pretty engrained in the collective unconscious. From the Gnostic perspective anyway. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 4768415 United States 07/17/2012 11:46 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | God, the reality version...streamlined. Quoting: ArunaLuna Sparky AND efficient... Love it...the explanation! The reality is as manyfold as their is the will to explore. The rules and patterns of construction few and unwavering. It has always been about controlling fire, from cave to high tech nanotech. In The Hypostasis of the Archons (The Reality of the Rulers), Norea is the daughter of Eve and the younger sister of Seth; both are members of the pure race. The archons (demonic rulers of the world) decide to destroy the world with a deluge, but their leader, the evil Demiurge, warns Noah to build an ark, which Norea tries to board. Noah stops her, so she blows upon the ark and sets it ablaze. The archons try to rape her, but she cries to God for help. The angel Eleleth appears and frightens the archons away before revealing her origins; she is a child of God. Quoting: [link to en.wikipedia.org] Controlling fire: Seems a theme pretty engrained in the collective unconscious. From the Gnostic perspective anyway. The message seems pretty clear. Don’t tell ‘Norea’ she can’t ride the wave. |
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aether User ID: 1412926 United Kingdom 07/17/2012 11:51 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I read this a long time ago Quoting: FancyPants Our gross minds cannot imagine the Supreme without form, attributes, or story. We need a Rama, a Krishna, a Buddha, or a Christ to embody the supreme qualities and give us a form to worship. But when we say that the Supreme incarnates in Rama, Krishna, or Christ, and we develop a relationship with Him, it is not his body we worship but the great ideals He embodies. well that tells there was a time when we could no longer feel the sensation of that which we sensualised within and relied upon those that could still feel the meanings to explain to us what our emotions meant but we used not to be de-sensualised According to the Cheyenne of North America the original race roamed naked, innocent and free, enjoying the natural abundance of an eternal spring. What followed, however, was an age of flood, war, and famine. Quoting: observationThe Caribs of Surinam have a poignant memory of this fortunate epoch. "In a time long past, so long past that even the grandmothers of our grandmothers were not yet born," they say, "the world was quite other than what it is today: the trees were forever in fruit; the animals lived in perfect harmony, and the little agouti played fearlessly with the beard of the jaguar " The South American Indians of Gran Chaco and Amazonia recall this as the Happy Place, where work was unknown because the fields produced abundance of their own accord. The Hopi Indians proclaim that in the earliest time they were a marvelously contented race, at peace with their brothers. They knew nothing of sickness or conflict, and all things were provided by Mother Earth without any requirement of labor. But these are just the American Indian versions of the story. The aborigines of Australia insist that their first ancestors enjoyed a Golden Age, a Paradise of abundant game and without conflict of any kind. Northern Europeans once celebrated this earliest age as the "Peace of Frodi," a mythical Danish king. Throughout this peaceful epoch no man injured another and a magical mill ground out peace and plenty for the entire land. Memories of a Golden Age pervade the myths of Africa. The distinguished folklorist Herman Baumann reported that "Everything that happened in the primal age was different from today. People understood the language of animals and lived at peace with them; they knew no labor and had food in plenitude." Sacred texts of ancient India recall this as the Krita Yuga or "Perfect Age," without disease, labor, suffering or war. The Iranians called it the age of the brilliant Yima, an age with "neither cold nor heat," an eternal spring. According to ancient Chinese lore, the purest pleasure and tranquillity once reigned throughout the world. Mythical histories called it "the Age of Perfect Virtue" and declared that "the whole creation enjoyed a state of happiness. . . all things grew without labor; and a universal fertility prevailed." and it appears our altering environment is returning us to the similar sensory configuration that resides in our dna memory Last Edited by aether on 07/17/2012 11:52 AM |
Swinging on Spirals User ID: 865798 United States 07/17/2012 11:54 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I've got to jump back into meditating and playing in my lucid sandbox. Been a long time since I meditated. Been a while since I have made conscious thoughts on experimenting certain topics in my lucid sandbox. "Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming, "Wow! What a Ride!" We do not Die, We Awaken to the Dream that We Lived. |
Seer777 Ride the wings of the mind User ID: 3018467 United States 07/17/2012 11:56 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I've got to jump back into meditating and playing in my lucid sandbox. Been a long time since I meditated. Been a while since I have made conscious thoughts on experimenting certain topics in my lucid sandbox. Quoting: Swinging on Spirals Difficulties strengthen the Mind as labor does the body... ~Seneca |
aether User ID: 1412926 United Kingdom 07/17/2012 11:57 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | fire was evidence of god, as was firelight did we lose our fur because we desired to become closer to fire, or did we never possess fur but always possess our desire to be closer to god? An-Nur "Allah is the Light of the heavens and the earth. The parable of His light is as if there were a niche and within it a lamp: the lamp enclosed in glass: the glass as it were a brilliant star: lit from a blessed tree, an olive, neither of the east nor of the west, whose oil is well-nigh luminous, though fire scarce touched it: Light upon Light! Allah doth guide whom He will to His light: Allah doth set forth parables for men: and God doth know all things." Quoting: Quran 24:36[link to en.wikipedia.org] |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 4768415 United States 07/17/2012 12:06 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | “DNA memory” [i.e. genetic memory] = “Divine Autogenes” (Gnostic terminology) Quoting: Anonymous Coward 4768415 Ha! "Father of All, Ennoia of the Light, dwelling in the heights above the (regions) below, Light dwelling in the heights, Voice of Truth, upright Nous, untouchable Logos, and ineffable Voice, incomprehensible Father! Quoting: [link to en.wikipedia.org] It is Norea who cries out to them. They heard, [and] they received her into her place forever. They gave it to her in the Father of Nous, Adamas, as well as the voice of the Holy Ones, in order that she might rest in the ineffable Epinoia, in order that [she] might inherit the first mind which [she] had received, and that [she] might rest in the divine Autogenes, and that she (too) might generate herself, just as she also has inherited the living Logos, and that she might be joined to all of the Imperishable Ones, and speak with the mind of the Father. And she began to speak with the words of Life, and [she] remained in the presence of the Exalted One, possessing that which she had received before the world came into being. She has the great mind of the Invisible One, and she gives glory to [her] Father, and she dwells within those who [are actively awake] within the Pleroma, and she beholds the Pleroma. There will be days when she will behold the Pleroma, and she will not be in deficiency, for she has the four holy helpers who intercede on her behalf with the Father of the All, Adamas. He it is who is within all of the Adams, possessing the thought of Norea, who speaks concerning the two names which create a single name." |
Swinging on Spirals User ID: 865798 United States 07/17/2012 12:12 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I've got to jump back into meditating and playing in my lucid sandbox. Been a long time since I meditated. Been a while since I have made conscious thoughts on experimenting certain topics in my lucid sandbox. Quoting: Swinging on Spirals [link to www.youtube.com] rainbowserpentme: Serious. I have taken a long enough break. I need to jump back into the non-material and push myself again. Problem is that it can be so taxing to the consciousness. It is living in a constant state of awareness and evaluating EVERYTHING you do. And that doesn't include all the 'nasties' that come out of the woodwork. I've cleaned up the last couple months. Lost 15 pounds already. Time to go kick some ass like I used to. I used to do things and fuck the consequences. I remember one time I 'insisted' to know the universe. A MASSIVE force slammed into me from the left side. Everything went black and it felt like I was knocked across many, many layers. Ah, I've got to get that 'fuck it' mentality back and go do my stuff again... "Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming, "Wow! What a Ride!" We do not Die, We Awaken to the Dream that We Lived. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 4768415 United States 07/17/2012 12:13 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | “DNA memory” [i.e. genetic memory] = “Divine Autogenes” (Gnostic terminology) Quoting: Anonymous Coward 4768415 Ha! "Father of All, Ennoia of the Light, dwelling in the heights above the (regions) below, Light dwelling in the heights, Voice of Truth, upright Nous, untouchable Logos, and ineffable Voice, incomprehensible Father! Quoting: [link to en.wikipedia.org] It is Norea who cries out to them. They heard, [and] they received her into her place forever. They gave it to her in the Father of Nous, Adamas, as well as the voice of the Holy Ones, in order that she might rest in the ineffable Epinoia, in order that [she] might inherit the first mind which [she] had received, and that [she] might rest in the divine Autogenes, and that she (too) might generate herself, just as she also has inherited the living Logos, and that she might be joined to all of the Imperishable Ones, and speak with the mind of the Father. And she began to speak with the words of Life, and [she] remained in the presence of the Exalted One, possessing that which she had received before the world came into being. She has the great mind of the Invisible One, and she gives glory to [her] Father, and she dwells within those who [are actively awake] within the Pleroma, and she beholds the Pleroma. There will be days when she will behold the Pleroma, and she will not be in deficiency, for she has the four holy helpers who intercede on her behalf with the Father of the All, Adamas. He it is who is within all of the Adams, possessing the thought of Norea, who speaks concerning the two names which create a single name." "There will be days when she will behold the Pleroma, and she will not be in deficiency..." [link to www.youtube.com] “...in the time of once, once upon a time, before we knew of shame.” (i.e. Golden Age) |
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