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Magnetotard User ID: 1040464 United Kingdom 01/05/2011 10:58 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | the magnetic field does not explain how one type of bird dies all together in a one block area Quoting: _2 swords_same with the fish seems more like location, location Do you understand how magnetic fields work? They can be local and differ in strength from one area to another. It may be these birds who all smashed themselves into the ground were momentarily disorientated by a magnetic flux Same with the fish. They perhaps beached themselves. It explains WHY no other cause can be found. so you say the magnetic field can pin point one flock of birds and instantly kill them so they fall over a one block area? Yes but the magnetic field is a natural phenomenon, it's not something that goes "looking" for birds or fish it just changes in strength, dynamics and postition. You do know the earth is surrounded by magnetic fields didn't you? I hope you did! just not buying that the magnetic field is that selective, to be able to kill birds over only a one block area nice screen name btw :) Please tell me you cannot be that stupid to think that magnetic fields go around searching for flocks of birds to kill. Have you aver played with magnets and iron filings? Please for the sake of my sanity go try. |
Wingedlion User ID: 484472 United States 01/05/2011 10:59 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | IMHO this electromagnetic theory is nothing but a smokescreen. This occured a few hundred miles from where I live, and the preliminary autopsy report on at least 15 of the birds was "blunt force trama". It appeared as if their lungs exploded and many of their bones were broken. Unless they hit some kind of experimental force field, it was probably chemical rather than electromagnetic. Also, the clean up people were all wearing hasmat suits and gas masks...all of them, so what did they know that we don't? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1040464If you fell 100's of feet at 30-40+ mph and smashed into the ground with your arms open and chin up do you not think your lungs would explode through Blunt force trauma? Not if I were a bird with wings to glide. These birds were dead before they hit the ground. "Glory is what happens when faith overcomes adversity." |
Magnetotard User ID: 1040464 United Kingdom 01/05/2011 11:01 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | IT has nothing to do with Gravity, it's magnetic interference of their flight plan. Quoting: StrangewaysImagine .... to compare......you in a car and you sat nav system send you off the edge of a cliff yet the cliff is listed as being 5 miles further down the coast. In your theory, all it does is disorient the bird. Not kill them. So have you ever suffered Severe dizziness and been able to stand up at the same time? Most birds see via magnetic fields and when flocking (AS THEY WERE DOING) will flock via their magnetic compass NOT SIGHT.. This explains why they wouldn't have known the ground was where it was and smashed straight into it. Magnetic waves penetrate ground as other waves do, the birds see the wave, not the ground. Don't you understand? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 961432 United States 01/05/2011 11:01 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | To flog a dead horse, George Ure did specify that the novelty period would intensify and then crescendo sometime in early-mid January. Perhaps this electro-magnetic phenomenon is part of the novelty period? Anyone feeling particularly novel this year? Oh and I anticipate a resurgence of 1-11-11 threads in the coming days. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 516644 United States 01/05/2011 11:03 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Sitting here in Plano TX with my Compass out sitting on the desk and it just went from 180 degrees South to 194 degrees South without me touching it a 14 degree variance. Is anyone else in the area that can confirm large magnetic fluctuations? |
Magnetotard User ID: 1040464 United Kingdom 01/05/2011 11:03 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | IMHO this electromagnetic theory is nothing but a smokescreen. This occured a few hundred miles from where I live, and the preliminary autopsy report on at least 15 of the birds was "blunt force trama". It appeared as if their lungs exploded and many of their bones were broken. Unless they hit some kind of experimental force field, it was probably chemical rather than electromagnetic. Also, the clean up people were all wearing hasmat suits and gas masks...all of them, so what did they know that we don't? Quoting: WingedlionIf you fell 100's of feet at 30-40+ mph and smashed into the ground with your arms open and chin up do you not think your lungs would explode through Blunt force trauma? Not if I were a bird with wings to glide. These birds were dead before they hit the ground. You DON'T KNOW THAT AS FACT.. It appears the birds died of severe TRAUMA , CAUSED by them HITTING the ground. MY personal view is they hit the ground because of MAGNETIC FLUX. As I believe the fish beached themselves on the river banks because they were following the magnetic flux. SINCE there is no evidence of toxin/poison or infection this can be the only LOGICAL explanation |
_2 swords_ User ID: 1103170 United States 01/05/2011 11:03 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | the magnetic field does not explain how one type of bird dies all together in a one block area Quoting: Magnetotardsame with the fish seems more like location, location Do you understand how magnetic fields work? They can be local and differ in strength from one area to another. It may be these birds who all smashed themselves into the ground were momentarily disorientated by a magnetic flux Same with the fish. They perhaps beached themselves. It explains WHY no other cause can be found. so you say the magnetic field can pin point one flock of birds and instantly kill them so they fall over a one block area? Yes but the magnetic field is a natural phenomenon, it's not something that goes "looking" for birds or fish it just changes in strength, dynamics and postition. You do know the earth is surrounded by magnetic fields didn't you? I hope you did! just not buying that the magnetic field is that selective, to be able to kill birds over only a one block area nice screen name btw :) Please tell me you cannot be that stupid to think that magnetic fields go around searching for flocks of birds to kill. Have you aver played with magnets and iron filings? Please for the sake of my sanity go try. no i do not think the magnetic field goes around looking for flocks of birds to kill, you do if it were the magnetic field that caused the birds to die, it would not have happened to just a select few over such a small area, you are the one saying it could |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 859320 United States 01/05/2011 11:06 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The field is not a constant all over the globe...it fluxuates...and depending on how the sun is shooting off it's energy...there can be great affects to the earths fields...which have been proven to affect animals. Just because we don't SEE that doesn't mean it's not there... |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1218235 United States 01/05/2011 11:07 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Sitting here in Plano TX with my Compass out sitting on the desk and it just went from 180 degrees South to 194 degrees South without me touching it a 14 degree variance. Is anyone else in the area that can confirm large magnetic fluctuations? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 516644Georgia here, my compass has been off as much as ten degrees for due north. Of course GLP didn't buy it. LoL! |
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Magnetotard User ID: 1040464 United Kingdom 01/05/2011 11:09 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | the magnetic field does not explain how one type of bird dies all together in a one block area Quoting: _2 swords_same with the fish seems more like location, location Do you understand how magnetic fields work? They can be local and differ in strength from one area to another. It may be these birds who all smashed themselves into the ground were momentarily disorientated by a magnetic flux Same with the fish. They perhaps beached themselves. It explains WHY no other cause can be found. so you say the magnetic field can pin point one flock of birds and instantly kill them so they fall over a one block area? Yes but the magnetic field is a natural phenomenon, it's not something that goes "looking" for birds or fish it just changes in strength, dynamics and postition. You do know the earth is surrounded by magnetic fields didn't you? I hope you did! just not buying that the magnetic field is that selective, to be able to kill birds over only a one block area nice screen name btw :) Please tell me you cannot be that stupid to think that magnetic fields go around searching for flocks of birds to kill. Have you aver played with magnets and iron filings? Please for the sake of my sanity go try. no i do not think the magnetic field goes around looking for flocks of birds to kill, you do if it were the magnetic field that caused the birds to die, it would not have happened to just a select few over such a small area, you are the one saying it could NO NOT TRUE......... I DONT I think we are experience significant EARTH CHANGES in which our Magnetosphere is being affected The evidence is there for all to see with the Higher intensity of earthquakes in the areas or NEARBY where BIRDS HAVE BEEN FOUND DEAD and strangley enough all near FAULTLINES And it hasn't happened to just a select few. Are you another person who believes these sudden massive bird kills are normal?? in one period over a few days? |
Opeth User ID: 1173053 United States 01/05/2011 11:10 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Could these magnetic fluxes also be cause the very bizarre dreams and sleepless nights my family has been having? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1218235ABSOLUTELY, yes! I've been having alot of the bizarre equilibrium changes as well. You may want to assess other symtoms too.... There is seriously something disturbing amidst. "Today young men on acid realized all matter is merely energy condensed to a slow vibration... that we are all one conciousness experiencing ourselves subjectively. There is no such thing as death, life is only a dream, and we are the imagination of ourselves. ...Here's Tom with the weather" :Opeth-1: |
Mother Mary User ID: 628029 United States 01/05/2011 11:10 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Right now it is changing again. It is flipping again..It was pretty normal about 30 minutes ago. I check it every 10 minutes or so and it is really moving fast. [link to www2.nict.go.jp] My anthem to the shills of GLP: We're never gonna, believe in, the stories, that you're weavin' We're believin' in the proof, we're believin' in the truth We're believin' in each other, not you, you, you (Bang Bang Bang - Mark Ronson) ------------------------------------ Janey's "doesntwannabeglpsobad" ~Google It~ ------------------------------------ “Of course I'm crazy, but that doesn't mean I'm wrong.” - Robert Anton Wilson |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 860229 United States 01/05/2011 11:12 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Oh, and an Arkansas autopsy said the birds had exploded livers. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1040464SONIC WEAPONS The livers didn't explode when they hit the ground? Livers are made up of over 75% Blood. Lend me yours Ill smash it into the ground at 30mph (covered by a thin layer of feather from my duvet) and lets see what you get back. Have you ever hunted and shot a bird? For the love of God MAN, they drop to the ground without damage to internal organs! I have shot and cleaned enough pheasants and grouse to know this. The birds in Arkansas are considered a nuisance. They are routinely killed by poisoning them. On New Year's Eve this time they tried a new method. A sonic cannon! Witnesses heard loud booms. People here usually don't light off fireworks on New Year's Eve. It isn't like in Europe at all. The town is near an air force base. Perhaps they may use this device to clear flight paths of obstacle birds in the future.. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1216790 Argentina 01/05/2011 11:13 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If this was cuased by the sun you would have been seeing it regularly every single year world wide. Please, of course the sun impacts megnetism but it doesnt wipe out masses of birds and fish world wide withint 4 days for no apparent reason. We have seen highs and lows in solar activity on record and im afraid this just doesnt even begin to account for what happened recently. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 820306 United States 01/05/2011 11:14 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Something HUGE is afoot. I am sensitive to the magnetic field and have a great internal sense of direction. I can sense the full and new moon. These past few days I have been experiencing shifts in time line possibly related to mercury coming out of retro or solar eclipse. I checked my compass on LI, NY and it looks like it may be off just a bit but generally pointing north correct. I can just feel it in my soul that something magnetic is about to breakdown and we will all experience the most amazing transformation ever in the history of the universe. Get ready peeps, get right with spirit because all the rules are about to change. How do I know this. I CAN FEEL IT! Namaste |
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Magnetotard User ID: 1040464 United Kingdom 01/05/2011 11:15 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The field is not a constant all over the globe...it fluxuates...and depending on how the sun is shooting off it's energy...there can be great affects to the earths fields...which have been proven to affect animals. Quoting: ArunaLunaJust because we don't SEE that doesn't mean it's not there... It also penetrates LAND Sea and Air, otherwise whales and turtles wouldn't find their way across the planet. The magnetosphere on earth is fluctuating violently, Whether this is a space source anomaly or an earth Source anomaly is yet to be seen. We know earthquakes in the areas where birds have been found have been frequent or increasing in strength but that could be that the fault lines are being strained. It very interesting that we now have companies developing testing equipment to monitor earthquakes using the detectable differences in magnetic fields. |
Magnetotard User ID: 1040464 United Kingdom 01/05/2011 11:16 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If this was cuased by the sun you would have been seeing it regularly every single year world wide. Please, of course the sun impacts megnetism but it doesnt wipe out masses of birds and fish world wide withint 4 days for no apparent reason. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1216790We have seen highs and lows in solar activity on record and im afraid this just doesnt even begin to account for what happened recently. Study how magnetic fields work. you may learn something. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1216790 Argentina 01/05/2011 11:18 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Hmm look, everyone, you would really require some credible science or support to suggest that this was the sun. Changes in the magnetic field are constant, the sun has been doing this since long before we were around and we would have noticed if this was something which happened normally. This is an abnormal even, highly unlikely to be natural, so you would need to demonstrate why now the sun had this impact of birds and fish when it didnt have before? We arent experiencing any kind of extreme high, we are heading towards but have not reached a peak in solar activity however its not anything new, we have been through peaks and troughs before. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 765966 United States 01/05/2011 11:18 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | A very interesting Chinese article ties all of this together... Quoting: Mister ObviousOriginal link: [link to www.chou4.com] Translated: [link to translate.google.com] Specific proteins in migratory birds eye "cryptochrome" Human eyes contain cryptochrome proteins....can't see without them.... |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1218235 United States 01/05/2011 11:19 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Flight Animals Arkansas – 5000 + [link to www.cnn.com] Louisiana – 500 + [link to www.2theadvocate.com] Kentucky – dozens [link to www.wpsdlocal6.com] Sweden [link to www.thelocal.se] New Zealand [link to www.stuff.co.nz] Japan and Hong Kong, (H1N1 blamed) [link to www.nytimes.com] Germany [link to www.presseportal.de] UK [link to news.bbc.co.uk] North Carolina - hundreds of Pelicans (autopsy have ruled out humans killing birds) [link to www.carteretnewstimes.com] Italy - 300 doves [link to www.geapress.org] Bats in Arizona: [link to www.azcentral.com] Marine Life Arkansas [link to www.todaysthv.com] Fish in Maryland [link to www.wbaltv.com] Florida [link to www.wftv.com] [link to www.cfnews13.com] Texas [link to www.ksat.com] Indiana [link to www.wndu.com] Brazil, 100 tons of dead fish was ashore in the last week. [link to www.parana-online.com.br] New Zealand [link to www.nzherald.co.nz] [link to www.3news.co.nz] [link to www.stuff.co.nz] Canada [link to www.torontosun.com] Australia [link to www.themorningbulletin.com.au] [link to www.smh.com.au] UK [link to www.bymnews.com] [link to www.peterboroughtoday.co.uk] [link to www.liverpoolecho.co.uk] Viet Nam (150 Tons) [link to business.asiaone.com] Philippines [link to globalnation.inquirer.net] Haiti [link to www.france24.com] Florida Manatee deaths [link to www.orlandosentinel.com] Starfish, jellyfish [link to www.abcnews4.com] Whales [link to www.mysailing.com.au] [link to www.beachconnection.net] [link to www.newsday.com] [link to www.northernadvocate.co.nz] [link to www.abc.net.au] |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1216790 Argentina 01/05/2011 11:20 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If this was cuased by the sun you would have been seeing it regularly every single year world wide. Please, of course the sun impacts megnetism but it doesnt wipe out masses of birds and fish world wide withint 4 days for no apparent reason. Quoting: MagnetotardWe have seen highs and lows in solar activity on record and im afraid this just doesnt even begin to account for what happened recently. Study how magnetic fields work. you may learn something. I suggest you study history and recorded data which we have going back years and years on solar activity....and then try showing some scientific support for the idea that the sun caused this. If there was any credible science behind it, Mr Mainstream would have jumped all over it by now, there isnt and they havent because the simple fact is NOTHING in solar terms is new for us and this is NOT a normal happening due to solar activity and theres no scientific reason this should or would have occured. |
cg User ID: 1119788 United States 01/05/2011 11:20 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The field is not a constant all over the globe...it fluxuates...and depending on how the sun is shooting off it's energy...there can be great affects to the earths fields...which have been proven to affect animals. Quoting: ArunaLunaJust because we don't SEE that doesn't mean it's not there... great point, hey aruna, haven't heard from u in a while, this could lead to bigger things. Let be be finale of seem The only emperor is the emperor of ice cream--Wallace Stevens I have seen the eternal footman hold my coat and snicker and in short I was afraid--T.S. Eliot [email protected] Back on twitter--follow me [email protected] |
Magnetotard User ID: 1040464 United Kingdom 01/05/2011 11:25 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Oh, and an Arkansas autopsy said the birds had exploded livers. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 860229SONIC WEAPONS The livers didn't explode when they hit the ground? Livers are made up of over 75% Blood. Lend me yours Ill smash it into the ground at 30mph (covered by a thin layer of feather from my duvet) and lets see what you get back. Have you ever hunted and shot a bird? For the love of God MAN, they drop to the ground without damage to internal organs! I have shot and cleaned enough pheasants and grouse to know this. The birds in Arkansas are considered a nuisance. They are routinely killed by poisoning them. On New Year's Eve this time they tried a new method. A sonic cannon! Witnesses heard loud booms. People here usually don't light off fireworks on New Year's Eve. It isn't like in Europe at all. The town is near an air force base. Perhaps they may use this device to clear flight paths of obstacle birds in the future.. How many landed on tarmac? |
~SE~ User ID: 1113612 Canada 01/05/2011 11:25 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The birds in Arkansas are considered a nuisance. They are routinely killed by poisoning them. On New Year's Eve this time they tried a new method. A sonic cannon! Witnesses heard loud booms. People here usually don't light off fireworks on New Year's Eve. It isn't like in Europe at all. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 860229The town is near an air force base. Perhaps they may use this device to clear flight paths of obstacle birds in the future.. At least your explanation offers something plausible! But it doesn't, however, explain the hundreds of thousands of dead fish carcasses strewn for 20 miles down the Arkansas River! (Which also just so happen to be a favorite snaking food of scavenger birds!) Neither does localized flock poisoning for that matter. Mass poisoning such as that which occurs during "fracking" (fracturing the sub-strata for natural gas extraction) and the propagation of the chemical COREXIT 9500 (which is known to cause internal hemorrhage and was dumped all over the Gulf!) do offer a couple of explanations worth considering. Especially so since the largest shareholder is the same company in both NALCO (manufacturer of COREXIT) and BP !! ~SE~ |
_2 swords_ User ID: 1103170 United States 01/05/2011 11:25 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | the magnetic field does not explain how one type of bird dies all together in a one block area Quoting: Magnetotardsame with the fish seems more like location, location Do you understand how magnetic fields work? They can be local and differ in strength from one area to another. It may be these birds who all smashed themselves into the ground were momentarily disorientated by a magnetic flux Same with the fish. They perhaps beached themselves. It explains WHY no other cause can be found. so you say the magnetic field can pin point one flock of birds and instantly kill them so they fall over a one block area? Yes but the magnetic field is a natural phenomenon, it's not something that goes "looking" for birds or fish it just changes in strength, dynamics and postition. You do know the earth is surrounded by magnetic fields didn't you? I hope you did! just not buying that the magnetic field is that selective, to be able to kill birds over only a one block area nice screen name btw :) Please tell me you cannot be that stupid to think that magnetic fields go around searching for flocks of birds to kill. Have you aver played with magnets and iron filings? Please for the sake of my sanity go try. no i do not think the magnetic field goes around looking for flocks of birds to kill, you do if it were the magnetic field that caused the birds to die, it would not have happened to just a select few over such a small area, you are the one saying it could NO NOT TRUE......... I DONT I think we are experience significant EARTH CHANGES in which our Magnetosphere is being affected The evidence is there for all to see with the Higher intensity of earthquakes in the areas or NEARBY where BIRDS HAVE BEEN FOUND DEAD and strangley enough all near FAULTLINES And it hasn't happened to just a select few. Are you another person who believes these sudden massive bird kills are normal?? in one period over a few days? no i do not believe they are normal, just not buying that it is the magnetic field that is responsible so now you are saying that faultlines are responsible? which is it? i say neither |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1054369 United States 01/05/2011 11:27 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Great thread! Quoting: Mister ObviousThank you. I truly believe that this is the most likely cause for these die-offs, seen all over the world. It could be the precursor to something huge. its not the sun, dude, its man. GMOs. THEY cause mutations. when pharmedico, et al tell us its the sun or genetics or some other thing that we cant check ourselves then they are hiding something. death to monsanto, the number one repository for evil in this world right now. you would think a guy with your experience would have this down pat by now. |