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Circuit Breaker User ID: 1167715 United States 01/05/2011 07:11 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: HAARP Donut/Funnel Cloud Over Virginia Beach, VA Yesterday As Dead Fish Wash Ashore In Chesapeake Bay! Yes, of course, because I don't agree with your beliefs, you believe I'm a shill. I'm sorry if I know a lot more about RF than you do. Insta-woo woo Last Edited by Circuit Breaker on 01/05/2011 07:17 AM A voice of reason in a world of woo-woos. |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 1092082 United States 01/05/2011 07:14 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: HAARP Donut/Funnel Cloud Over Virginia Beach, VA Yesterday As Dead Fish Wash Ashore In Chesapeake Bay! Yes, of course, because I don't agree with your beliefs, you believe I'm a shill. I'm sorry if I know a lot more about RF than you do. Quoting: Circuit BreakerInsta-woo woo Sure ya do pal.. Sure ya do.. Did I mention that my father was a communications specialist for the USN and the FCC? Did you know that HAARP uses RF as well as a multitude of other frequencies? Did I mention that my father also worked at one of these facilities in Adak, Alaska in the late 70's? I know quite a bit.. Go fuck yourself! |
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Circuit Breaker User ID: 1167715 United States 01/05/2011 07:18 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: HAARP Donut/Funnel Cloud Over Virginia Beach, VA Yesterday As Dead Fish Wash Ashore In Chesapeake Bay! Sure ya do pal.. Sure ya do.. Quoting: Lost PatriotDid I mention that my father was a communications specialist for the USN and the FCC? Did you know that HAARP uses RF as well as a multitude of other frequencies? Did I mention that my father also worked at one of these facilities in Adak, Alaska in the late 70's? I know quite a bit.. Go fuck yourself! And we're supposed to believe what you say because? Even if what you say were true, he obviously didn't pass on his knowledge to you. HAARP is all the way up in Alaska and uses HF frequencies that have a rather long wavelength. Because the wavelength is so long and water molecules are small, the amount of energy absorbed is very low. And how do they "aim" all this radiated energy at various locations on Earth? They can't! The frequencies used are low and the energy is sent upward at such a steep angle that the ionosphere does not refract the signal back to Earth. Now, take your own advise and fuck yourself. Last Edited by Circuit Breaker on 01/05/2011 07:18 AM A voice of reason in a world of woo-woos. |
Circuit Breaker User ID: 1167715 United States 01/05/2011 07:20 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: HAARP Donut/Funnel Cloud Over Virginia Beach, VA Yesterday As Dead Fish Wash Ashore In Chesapeake Bay! The hole and funnel is strange, but the rippled clouds are normal. I can't remember what they're called, but my local meteorologist has mentioned them. I see them often hours ahead of a weather system coming in. Quoting: Dreamer567Those clouds are often referred to as "mackerel sky" formed from altocumulus clouds. The anomaly shown here is called a "hole punch" cloud. Do a Google search and you'll turn up lots of images. Here's one that's very similar: [link to commons.wikimedia.org] Last Edited by Circuit Breaker on 01/05/2011 07:23 AM A voice of reason in a world of woo-woos. |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 1092082 United States 01/05/2011 07:23 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: HAARP Donut/Funnel Cloud Over Virginia Beach, VA Yesterday As Dead Fish Wash Ashore In Chesapeake Bay! Sure ya do pal.. Sure ya do.. Quoting: Circuit BreakerDid I mention that my father was a communications specialist for the USN and the FCC? Did you know that HAARP uses RF as well as a multitude of other frequencies? Did I mention that my father also worked at one of these facilities in Adak, Alaska in the late 70's? I know quite a bit.. Go fuck yourself! And we're supposed to believe what you say because? Even if what you say were true, he obviously didn't pass on his knowledge to you. HAARP is all the way up in Alaska and uses HF frequencies that have a rather long wavelength. Because the wavelength is so long and water molecules are small, the amount of energy absorbed is very low. And how do they "aim" all this radiated energy at various locations on Earth? They can't! The frequencies used are low and the energy is sent upward at such a steep angle that the ionosphere does not refract the signal back to Earth. Now, take your own advise and fuck yourself. And we're supposed to believe what you say, because? I don't give a fuck what you say.. That shit is not normal. I would think in 43 fucking years, I would have seen a similar cloud in the area.. Blow it out your ass. And yes, he passed on plenty of info.. |
Circuit Breaker User ID: 1167715 United States 01/05/2011 07:24 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: HAARP Donut/Funnel Cloud Over Virginia Beach, VA Yesterday As Dead Fish Wash Ashore In Chesapeake Bay! And we're supposed to believe what you say, because? I don't give a fuck what you say.. That shit is not normal. Quoting: Lost PatriotDo some research on RF and propagation then. You'll find what I say is true. It's all out there...your problem is you'd rather believe there's conspiracy behind everything. You'd rather stick to your beliefs instead of learning something. I would think in 43 fucking years, I would have seen a similar cloud in the area.. Blow it out your ass. Quoting: Lost PatriotAnd yes, he passed on plenty of info.. Then present something instead of just talking out of your ass fuckwad. I'll even make a little easier for you: [link to www.wired.com] Last Edited by Circuit Breaker on 01/05/2011 07:27 AM A voice of reason in a world of woo-woos. |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 1092082 United States 01/05/2011 07:26 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: HAARP Donut/Funnel Cloud Over Virginia Beach, VA Yesterday As Dead Fish Wash Ashore In Chesapeake Bay! And we're supposed to believe what you say, because? I don't give a fuck what you say.. That shit is not normal. Quoting: Circuit BreakerDo some research on RF and propagation then. You'll find what I say is true. I would think in 43 fucking years, I would have seen a similar cloud in the area.. Blow it out your ass. And yes, he passed on plenty of info.. Then present something instead of just talking out of your ass fuckwad. Typical Military, Disinfo, Fuckhead! |
Circuit Breaker User ID: 1167715 United States 01/05/2011 07:28 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: HAARP Donut/Funnel Cloud Over Virginia Beach, VA Yesterday As Dead Fish Wash Ashore In Chesapeake Bay! Typical Military, Disinfo, Fuckhead! Quoting: Lost PatriotTypical response. You woo-woos are all alike - when you can't present anything to support your claims or it appears you're losing an argument, you all start calling people government agents hoping that it will make you look right in some delusional way. Why is that? You've made several claims here but presented nothing that shows what you say is true. I, on the other hand, have presented a few links that that support my claims which you, apparently, have chosen to ignore. And let's see...who started with the profane language? Oh, yes, it was you...simply because I posted something that didn't align with your beliefs. Last Edited by Circuit Breaker on 01/05/2011 07:40 AM A voice of reason in a world of woo-woos. |
Dreamer567 User ID: 1194915 United States 01/05/2011 07:40 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: HAARP Donut/Funnel Cloud Over Virginia Beach, VA Yesterday As Dead Fish Wash Ashore In Chesapeake Bay! Those clouds are often referred to as "mackerel sky" formed from altocumulus clouds. The anomaly shown here is called a "hole punch" cloud. Do a Google search and you'll turn up lots of images. Here's one that's very similar: Quoting: Circuit Breaker[link to commons.wikimedia.org] Thanks; that's it, "mackerel sky". I've seen the hole punch cloud pics online. Is there an explanation for them? Maybe a downdraft? |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 1201779 United States 01/05/2011 07:43 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: HAARP Donut/Funnel Cloud Over Virginia Beach, VA Yesterday As Dead Fish Wash Ashore In Chesapeake Bay! IMAGE ( [link to media.wvec.com] ) Definite Proof of HAARP Being Used??? The weather man was trying to play it off as a funnel cloud.. Bullshit, it was 40 degrees here yesterday.. And all of the Clouds around me had a distinct pattern to them(just like in the image above, rippled looking).. I was thinking to myself, "Hmmm, strange, they must be using HAARP around here".. Then I saw this image and it confirmed my suspicions! This is 60 miles from my house. Ears were ringing like crazy yesterday as well. What do you think? I was on 44th street ocean front yesterday and a porpose washed on shore, still alive |
Circuit Breaker User ID: 1167715 United States 01/05/2011 07:44 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: HAARP Donut/Funnel Cloud Over Virginia Beach, VA Yesterday As Dead Fish Wash Ashore In Chesapeake Bay! Thanks; that's it, "mackerel sky". I've seen the hole punch cloud pics online. Is there an explanation for them? Maybe a downdraft? Quoting: Dreamer567Hole punch clouds have been documented since the 1940s so they've been around a while even though the person starting this thread claims they aren't normal. They are, however, rare. It still isn't clear as to what causes them. A theory is that a plane can cause them but I don't think it's clearly understood as to how or why. This link provides some information: [link to en.wikipedia.org] If the OP thinks HAARP caused this, I'd like him to use his vast knowledge of RF he got from his father and explain how radio signals from Alaska end up where he lives to form a circle in the clouds. Last Edited by Circuit Breaker on 01/05/2011 07:51 AM A voice of reason in a world of woo-woos. |
Dreamer567 User ID: 1194915 United States 01/05/2011 07:54 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: HAARP Donut/Funnel Cloud Over Virginia Beach, VA Yesterday As Dead Fish Wash Ashore In Chesapeake Bay! Hole punch clouds have been documented since the 1940s so they've been around a while even though the person starting this thread claims they aren't normal. They are, however, rare. It still isn't clear as to what causes them. A theory is that a plane can cause them but I don't think it's clearly understood as to how or why. Quoting: Circuit BreakerThis link provides some information: [link to en.wikipedia.org] If the OP thinks HAARP caused this, I'd like him to use his vast knowledge of RF he got from his father and explain how radio signals from Alaska end up where he lives to form a circle in the clouds. Thanks. People don't look up often enough anymore to know what's normal or not. |
Circuit Breaker User ID: 1167715 United States 01/05/2011 08:05 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: HAARP Donut/Funnel Cloud Over Virginia Beach, VA Yesterday As Dead Fish Wash Ashore In Chesapeake Bay! I tend to lean towards what is verifiable. If you research hole punch clouds and HAARP, there are a lot of people that think these clouds are caused by it. But none of them present anything to support that belief. No one has explained how HAARP can cause it. As I said in another post, HAARP uses frequencies in the high frequency spectrum which ranges from about 3 MHz to 30 MHz. The wavelengths for those frequencies is from 80 meters (3 MHz) to 10 meters (30 MHz)...meaning if you could see the radio wave, it would be that long or high. That's why antennas come in various sizes...they're tuned to the frequency they're intended for. The lower in frequency you do, the larger the antenna and vice versa - the higher you go, the smaller the antenna. So, 80 meters up to 10 meters are are rather long wavelengths when compared the size of water droplets that form clouds. Their size in comparison to HF wavelengths means very little energy is absorbed. Water molecules react more to microwave RF...1 GHz and up, which all have very short wavelengths. For instance, 1 GHz has a wavelength of roughly 23 cm. That said, HAARP could use microwave energy...but because of the frequencies used, the ionosphere simply won't refract it back to Earth. So, how does it go from Alaska to Virginia Beach? Last Edited by Circuit Breaker on 01/05/2011 08:09 AM A voice of reason in a world of woo-woos. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 1154424 United States 01/05/2011 08:08 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: HAARP Donut/Funnel Cloud Over Virginia Beach, VA Yesterday As Dead Fish Wash Ashore In Chesapeake Bay! And we're supposed to believe what you say, because? I don't give a fuck what you say.. That shit is not normal. Quoting: Circuit BreakerDo some research on RF and propagation then. You'll find what I say is true. It's all out there...your problem is you'd rather believe there's conspiracy behind everything. You'd rather stick to your beliefs instead of learning something. I would think in 43 fucking years, I would have seen a similar cloud in the area.. Blow it out your ass. And yes, he passed on plenty of info.. Then present something instead of just talking out of your ass fuckwad. I'll even make a little easier for you: [link to www.wired.com] right..research..like the govt is going to let us in on it's dirty secrets. |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 1092082 United States 01/05/2011 08:09 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: HAARP Donut/Funnel Cloud Over Virginia Beach, VA Yesterday As Dead Fish Wash Ashore In Chesapeake Bay! I tend to lean towards what is verifiable. If you research hole punch clouds and HAARP, there are a lot of people that think these clouds are caused by it. But none of them present anything to support that belief. No one has explained how HAARP can cause it. As I said in another post, HAARP uses frequencies in the high frequency spectrum which ranges from about 3 MHz to 30 MHz. The wavelengths for those frequencies is from 80 meters (3 MHz) to 10 meters (30 MHz). Those are rather long wavelengths. Clouds are formed from small water droplets. Their size in comparison to HF wavelengths means very little energy is absorbed. Water molecules react more to microwave RF...1 GHz and up. That said, HAARP could use microwave energy...but because of the frequencies used, the ionosphere simply won't refract it back to Earth. So, how does it go from Alaska to Virginia Beach? Quoting: Circuit BreakerBarium, aluminum and other fine metals released into the atmosphere VIA aircraft allows the waves to bounce back to earth.. Stop playing stupid dude. |
Circuit Breaker User ID: 1167715 United States 01/05/2011 08:10 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: HAARP Donut/Funnel Cloud Over Virginia Beach, VA Yesterday As Dead Fish Wash Ashore In Chesapeake Bay! right..research..like the govt is going to let us in on it's dirty secrets. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1154424Right...like the government controls every scientist or engineer on the planet. A voice of reason in a world of woo-woos. |
Circuit Breaker User ID: 1167715 United States 01/05/2011 08:15 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: HAARP Donut/Funnel Cloud Over Virginia Beach, VA Yesterday As Dead Fish Wash Ashore In Chesapeake Bay! Barium, aluminum and other fine metals released into the atmosphere VIA aircraft allows the waves to bounce back to earth.. Quoting: Lost PatriotStop playing stupid dude. Not at the wavelengths used. That would only hold true for VHF and up. And how do these radio waves create these holes at specific locations? The amount of energy at the "receiving" end is relatively small. How much energy does it take to create these holes? How much energy is actually being refracted back and being "received" where these holes appear? How does the government know where to place the material you claim is used so that these radio waves show up where they want it? Considering the distance from Alaska to Virginia Beach, they would have to do this in several places because one hop wouldn't do it...which then means there should be hole punch clouds in other locations as the radio waves pass back to Earth and bounce back up to ionosphere to be refracted yet again to end up in Virginia Beach. Stop playing stupid dude. Last Edited by Circuit Breaker on 01/05/2011 08:16 AM A voice of reason in a world of woo-woos. |
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Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 1092082 United States 01/05/2011 08:23 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: HAARP Donut/Funnel Cloud Over Virginia Beach, VA Yesterday As Dead Fish Wash Ashore In Chesapeake Bay! Barium, aluminum and other fine metals released into the atmosphere VIA aircraft allows the waves to bounce back to earth.. Quoting: Circuit BreakerStop playing stupid dude. Not at the wavelengths used. That would only hold true for VHF and up. And how do these radio waves create these holes at specific locations? The amount of energy at the "receiving" end is relatively small. How much energy does it take to create these holes? How much energy is actually being refracted back and being "received" where these holes appear? How does the government know where to place the material you claim is used so that these radio waves show up where they want it? Considering the distance from Alaska to Virginia Beach, they would have to do this in several places because one hop wouldn't do it...which then means there should be hole punch clouds in other locations as the radio waves pass back to Earth and bounce back up to ionosphere to be refracted yet again to end up in Virginia Beach. Stop playing stupid dude. The main facility is in Alaska, there are "Elephant Cages" spread all across the USA and other Countries that are used as a sort of jumper... They don't need to know where to release the metals, they cover the whole fucking globe with the damn things. If you know about RF and HF frequencies, you should definitely know about the "Elephant Cages" or sometimes referred to as "Dinosaur Cages". [link to en.wikipedia.org] The AN/FLR-9 is a type of very large circular "Wullenweber" antenna array, built at many locations during the cold war for HF/DF direction finding of high priority targets. The worldwide network, known collectively as "Iron Horse", could locate HF communications almost anywhere on the planet. Due to their large size and shape, these units were often nicknamed "Elephant Cages" or "Turkey Farms". The arrangement permits accurate direction finding of signals from up to 4000 nautical miles (7 408 km) away. I've actually been to this one in Misawa, Japan: IMAGE ( [link to upload.wikimedia.org] ) Not playing dumb here Bubba.. As I said, I know my shit! And you just got fucking OWNED! |
Gannon User ID: 1217713 United States 01/05/2011 08:38 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: HAARP Donut/Funnel Cloud Over Virginia Beach, VA Yesterday As Dead Fish Wash Ashore In Chesapeake Bay! Fear is a great motivator of that control, too. YOU have it, or you wouldn't BE here spouting your 'only concern yourself with verifiable things' shilling. IF much of the data is held closely behind the walls of Top Secret clearance, which we ALL know is highly treasured by all within the Military/Industrial/Legislative complex, then how is a lowly citizen to verify anything? We watch and catch trends...and some are merely too obvious to miss. How does HAARP direct and focus ELF? With a VERY LARGE ARRAY and phasing of the signal. Can we PROVE ELF behavior? NO, because it has been closely held by the MIL complex ever since they discovered that Tesla was onto something he wouldnt' let y'all use for evil deeds. That is why people LIKE YOU killed him and stole the ethereal revelations which came into our present reality through him. Believe me, shill, you will be held to accont for your lying and disctracting from the truth. The karmic whiplash will be great upon you, and I fear even for your basic sanity when all of these carefully-laid plans get blown apart. You do NOT need to follow unethical orders, you do NOT need to continue this charade. Be careful and tread lightly, you will not want to be found positioned against the Greatest Power of the Universe, because at the moment you may enjoy the seat of power, but that will not continue unabated. Cheers to you, anyways. You will need it. Sicerely, John Detroit Last Edited by Gannon on 01/05/2011 08:40 AM Gadfly and Rogue Philosopher |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 943602 United Kingdom 01/05/2011 08:40 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: HAARP Donut/Funnel Cloud Over Virginia Beach, VA Yesterday As Dead Fish Wash Ashore In Chesapeake Bay! IMAGE ( [link to media.wvec.com] ) Definite Proof of HAARP Being Used??? The weather man was trying to play it off as a funnel cloud.. Bullshit, it was 40 degrees here yesterday.. And all of the Clouds around me had a distinct pattern to them(just like in the image above, rippled looking).. I was thinking to myself, "Hmmm, strange, they must be using HAARP around here".. Then I saw this image and it confirmed my suspicions! This is 60 miles from my house. Ears were ringing like crazy yesterday as well. What do you think? That surely looks WEIRDD! |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 1218127 Canada 01/05/2011 08:43 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: HAARP Donut/Funnel Cloud Over Virginia Beach, VA Yesterday As Dead Fish Wash Ashore In Chesapeake Bay! I tend to lean towards what is verifiable. If you research hole punch clouds and HAARP, there are a lot of people that think these clouds are caused by it. But none of them present anything to support that belief. No one has explained how HAARP can cause it. As I said in another post, HAARP uses frequencies in the high frequency spectrum which ranges from about 3 MHz to 30 MHz. The wavelengths for those frequencies is from 80 meters (3 MHz) to 10 meters (30 MHz)...meaning if you could see the radio wave, it would be that long or high. That's why antennas come in various sizes...they're tuned to the frequency they're intended for. The lower in frequency you do, the larger the antenna and vice versa - the higher you go, the smaller the antenna. So, 80 meters up to 10 meters are are rather long wavelengths when compared the size of water droplets that form clouds. Their size in comparison to HF wavelengths means very little energy is absorbed. Water molecules react more to microwave RF...1 GHz and up, which all have very short wavelengths. For instance, 1 GHz has a wavelength of roughly 23 cm. That said, HAARP could use microwave energy...but because of the frequencies used, the ionosphere simply won't refract it back to Earth. So, how does it go from Alaska to Virginia Beach? Quoting: Circuit BreakerAaahahahaahahhahahaa Circut Breaker wins the fail award of the month. LMAO at the DUHbunker |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 1218127 Canada 01/05/2011 08:45 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: HAARP Donut/Funnel Cloud Over Virginia Beach, VA Yesterday As Dead Fish Wash Ashore In Chesapeake Bay! right..research..like the govt is going to let us in on it's dirty secrets. Quoting: Circuit BreakerRight...like the government controls every scientist or engineer on the planet. HOW MUCH DO THEY PAY YOU TO WRITE THIS SHIT? |