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I wrote about the plot of the film back in August, 2007, long B4 the movie, May 2008:

Thread: Indiana Jones: City of Gods, Aztec Pyramid and ARK (Page 3)

There was a gossip this Indiana Jones film could present Moses' copper snake. In Hebrew both words copper & snake are homophonous "nahash nehoshet" and in Aztec language "place of snakes" was "nachan" while in Sumerian is "emash", it's always the sound of shhhhh, the hisssssing of the preciousssss sssssnake. It was not "bronze" (arad in Hebrew), and I said "bronze" is a word just used from 18th Century on and it's an alloy of copper & tin. In Tel Aviv museum an ancient Hebrew copper snake was shown.

I did a drawing on a paper and I wanted to use that Moses' copper snake as a weapon inspired by gods in the time I imagined Shekinah cloud with God's angel presence was a bit like a UFO. I wanted to see that "tool" used by Moses parting a literal Red Sea and I hired an artist to make the painting for me.

[link to fotolog.terra.com.br]

We saw the metal snakes in the Egyptian temple in Raiders of the Lost Ark. BTW, it's true what Sitchin wrote in one of his several books, copper-62 is used nowadays as POSITRON emitter (anti-matter)devices.

Read Maurice Cotterell's The Lost Tomb of Viracocha to realize ancient Incas used copper in the stone temples to open the 3rd eye and to create a short circuit in the whole temple of the virgins of the Sun because some roofs were also covered with copper.

In National Geographic magazine I saw something SO RIDICULOUS it made laugh. In a special edition about Tiahuanaco Bolivian culture (and I know pretty well Peru and Bolivia) we see a "graphic" of some indians with a fire that couldn't even serve to make a simple barbecue but the "scientific drawing" was depicting them with that fire to "melt" the alloy and then insert them in holes done on megalith stones. Even the scale used to make the stones was wrong. They made them too short.

What these deceivers don't mention is those "hooks" would break like cookies after so many generations and EARTHQUAKES if that was the case. Due to the fusion the profile of those "hooks" would have to be convex because of the tension of the surface when they pour melted metal and that is not the case. The evidence shows and the color of the stones, THE STONES WERE MELTED AND THEN HARDENED LIKE CEMENT. More than this, analysis made discovered HUMAN HAIR, air bubbles and microscopic tissue INSIDE THE STONES. But the know-how is something I won't tell here....

If you read about metals you would understand the alloy of copper and tin requires high temperatures we achieved with special furnaces in the 1930's, right? WRONG! These "hooks" between blocks of stones are alloys of tin and copper. You have read 2 "gringos" Benjamin Franklin (Freemason) and Thomas Edison "discovered" electricity but millions have seen in Peru museums they used alloy of copper and gold. We see amazing things in China too. To make such alloys you outta know about electrolisis mechanism. Mochicas in Peru added salt bicarbonate to the alloy to create electricity.

The Egyptian pillars DJET were like modern devices and Erik Von Daniken used the Egyptian hieroglyphs to make a special "lamp" with phosphorescent violet neon light.
[link to fotolog.terra.com.br]
[link to fotolog.terra.com.br]

Egyptian hieroglyphs remind us something we see in George Lucas’ Star Wars (Spielberg friend who created Indiana Jones):
[link to fotolog.terra.com]
[link to fotolog.terra.com]
[link to fotolog.terra.com]


There are mistakes in the movie Indiana Jones 4, of course and yet there are similarities between Peru and Mexico, Peruvians usually are unaware. Nazca weaving was like Aztec stone calendar & Mayan Palenque object and even Golden Mask worn by Peruvian Moche Lord of Sipan & Wiracocha in Bolivia. Hollywood wasn't created to teach history but entertainment but we can ask ourselves if education is really so good in Peru even regarding their own past culture...I guess not. That’s why unfortunately we hear Indiana learned Quechua language of Incas in Peru, South America, with Pancho Villa which was a leader in Mexico, Central America. Yet, the language of Mayans was Quiché which could be easily mistaken with Quechua.

We watch the airplane going from Mexico to Cuzco, Peru, and then we see Nazca lines there which is not the case because is far away. BUT: why the emphasis on the SPIDER design? That spider although in Nazca desert is a specific specie which lives kilometers away in the Amazon!!!! It’s Ricunilei spider and related to Orion constellation. Between Brazil and Peruvian frontier. That’s why we see Iguazu waterfalls which we know belong to Argentina, Brazil and Paraguay frontiers. That reminds other things like HYBRID ant-spider from Lord of Sipan and the NEPHILIM in Hebrew with the Hebrew root “nemalah” meaning “ants”.

The fact some crystal skulls were discovered to be found in Brazil enhanced that:
[link to www.xispas.com]


Akakor is Paititi where 12 pyramids were discovered by Landsat II satellite, covered by thick jungle not even Josh Bernstein could have access (just used a chopper):
[link to home.hiwaay.net]
[link to news.nationalgeographic.com]
That place –according to the film- is where we see the knowledge of all cultures in all times.
Crystal skulls in Peru?
[link to www.v-j-enterprises.com]
Deformed skulls:
[link to www.world-mysteries.com]

Trephination was the surgical process of removing a section of skull. This is thought to have been performed to relieve pressure caused by the binding process or to allow access to the brain. It was not clear how these operations were performed until a complete surgical kit was discovered, including obsidian knives, spatulas made from sperm whale teeth, cotton balls, bandages, thread and needles. Surprisingly, patients survived these primitive surgeries as is evidenced by the healed bone edges. The act of elongating the skull was achieved by binding the head of a child with cloth, rope and boards. As the child's skull grew and developed, it would elongate. Analysis of Einstein's brain gives the clue because there were oddities uniting both hemispheres. The Egyptians, Mayans and Incas deformed their skulls TO ALTER THEIR BRAINS and the other thing they did was being PLUGGED into hyperdimensional reality with hallucinogenic substances which have a molecular symbiosis with the ones in the brain like tryptophan aminoacid and serotonin and endorphins. [link to deoxy.org]
[link to deoxy.org]

But as I said before, we are aware of the KNOW HOW, but WHY is as important: change the brain & consciousness. It wasn't to imitate their gods because we know their gods were hum-animal creatures. In this sense Spielberg shouldn't return to the same idea of Ets he has always had but more like Power Rangers Transformers but rebel interdimensional cherubim as described by Ezekiel.

In Peru they love to say their ancestral knew techniques to drill and do surgery but they forgot all about it and should learn about Einstein's preserved brain to understand they deformed the skulls TO ALTER BRAIN SHAPE and make them more akin to math and abstract concept... and were plugged to hallucinogenic stuff which was their internet and tv channel like in Egypt, Mexico, Guatemala, Honduras and Bolivia.

It was not to mimic gods’ heads or their helmets a la Sitchin/Daniken. But it’s true gods are INTERDIMENSIONAL.
Comparison between Bolivian and Mayan culture:
[link to www.mauricecotterell.com]
[link to www.mauricecotterell.com]
[link to www.mauricecotterell.com]
Egyptian and Mayan culture:
[link to www.world-mysteries.com]

Indiana Jones wears Charlton Heston’s Fedora and jacket from 1954 film Secret of the Incas and indeed the Indians of the Amazon jungle from Raiders of the Lost Ark are Peruvian and the golden idol. More than this the Egyptian medallion with the light beam was “borrowed” from Secret of the Incas scene and we see the similar golden disc in both films:
[link to fotolog.terra.com.mx]
[link to fotolog.terra.com.mx]
[link to fotolog.terra.com.mx]

From 6’50” on, check the video:



Naked Jungle ANTS with Charlton Heston:


Heston became famous with his role as MOSES and we know Cecil B. DeMille used Paleo-Hebrew alphabet (not Aramaic which is now called “Hebrew”) to depict God’s name in the Ten Commandments:
[link to fotolog.terra.com.br]

Heston was supposed to go to Orion or Betelgeuse in Planet of the Apes:
[link to fotolog.terra.com]

You remember the end of Burton’s remake, don’t you?
[link to fotolog.terra.com]

Now the remake ONGOING Rise of the Apes is supposed to send Taylor to MARS (dark side) which is the same place visited by Moses/Val Kilmer (in Prince of Egypt as a voice and the musical) in Red Planet:
[link to fotolog.terra.com]
Ben Kingley is a chrononaut Moses as well:
[link to fotolog.terra.com]

Heston along with Arnold Schwarzenegger (Total Recall which was the name of his campaign when Mars was closer to earth in thousands of years) had MOSES’ HORNS OF LIGHT in True Lies:
[link to fotolog.terra.com]

And we know Chuck was used as Moses because his likeness to Michelangelo’s statue (BTW Heston was Michelangelo himself in Agony and Ecstasy):
[link to fotolog.terra.com]
[link to fotolog.terra.com]
[link to fotolog.terra.com]
[link to fotolog.terra.com]

Arnold was supposed to be the geneticist in Oliver Stone’s version of Planet of the Apes. Now, in that movie TOTAL RECALL they were gonna depict a machine-sphinx but they changed the 5th script and we see the logo shows a PYRAMID which doesn’t have to be confused with the mining mountain.
[link to www.listal.com]

[link to fotolog.terra.com]

[link to ospsicoloucos.blogspot.com]

And somehow Arnold and Chuck Heston look alike with that strong jaw.

Spielberg knows many REAL secrets and he teaches for the ones who want to know some thing but in hidden way. If you click "pause" in the remote control in the Raiders of the Lost Ark scene (where an old bearded man interprets the Egyptian medallion) you'll see God's 4 -letters-name but not in Hebrew but PALEO-HEBREW or Phoenician from Canaan.
[link to www.homevideos.com]


That medallions allows the identification of the right place using a miniature of an Egyptian mock up temple. Now what he's not telling you is God's name was actually worshipped in Egypt in the Great Pyramid and the porphyry coffer in King's Chamber in Great Pyramid has almost the exact measurement of the Hebrew ark of the covenant (45 inches x 27 x 27) so an Egyptian "naos" was set inside the Great Pyramid.

In Indiana Jones 4 film we can see he’s teaching something on the blackboard (perhaps taken from Zecharia Sitchin books):

[link to fotolog.terra.com]



In the last part of the film Raiders we saw something like sand (so the nazis thought in ignorance). I bet Rabbies told his Jewish friend that was monoatomic white gold powder with iridium and rhodium elements which at certain temperature defies gravity and even what we consider physical laws or hyperdimensional. You outta read Laurence Gardner's book about the Ark to understand what I am talking about.

In Indiana Jones and Last Crusade we saw the Freemason sort of ritual mumbling God's name but both him and his dad (Sean Connery) wrongly say "Jehovah" which is just a Protestant version of God's real name. We know this because letter "J" was invented in Middle Ages about 1.600 years after "Jesus" with a wrong "J"! Hebrews call the first letter of God's name as "yod" but whenever they want they say "iod" admiting it was never a "J" but "I" instead of Greek letter Ypsilon (Y). That's why Hebrew names like ISrael and ISaiah don't sound like Egyptian name ISis but sound like the "I" of other languages. It sounds like EE.
Hence Indiana Jones almost dies when stepping on the false letter "J" and what does he do? He chooses the letter "I" followed by letter "E".

Now he adds WRONG LETTERS ON PURPOSE because he can't betray his Rabbi friends. We know the 4th letter of God's name was the same second one which was the "E" and the third one was "V". And yet for English speakers is almost impossible to make the sound of the real name IEVE!!! Why so? Because you have 2 sounds for the "I" and other 2 for "I". It's false misconception perpetrated by the same ones who hide simple vowels of a mere translated title like "god" (writing "g*d) to say Hebrew had no vowels and God's name was YHVH or Jehovah or Yahweh. Spielberg knows this because he chose Paleo-Hebrew alphabet in the Egyptian medallion.
[link to fotolog.terra.com]

Forget that ridiculous thing about YHVH, these are Greek letter Ypsilon Y and Greek Eta H. Whenever Jews want they write that smaller of their letters is "yod" and other times "iod". Well "iod" starts with a vowel! Even when they pronounce the names of those letters, they are already saying vowels AlEph, bEth, and so on.... There's
no such a stupid thing like consonant language. No one speaks CFGHTRPRWKLXZ!!!!!! This is a lie perpetrated by the same people who HIDE VOWELS in a simple translated title like "god" applied to men like Moses in Exodus 7:1, 2, false gods and judges in Psalms 82:6 (compare with Christ's words when Rabbies were saying he was a blasphemer due to THAT word "god" and they failed to understand and so do you). Jews who hide vowels and write "g*d" with * can't possible say the truth to you, non-Jews. That YHVH was actually the IEVE and there are secrets to hide that sound of the "I". In Hebrew names like ISrael and ISaiah they sound like other languages like EEs-ra-el and EEsahiah but ISis which is Egyptian name sounds like AY-sees!!!!!
IEVE sounds only in English like spelling EE (as in seed-weep) + EH (as in set-let-net) and VEH (as in very-vestal). If you have any doubts ask a Spanish speaker to say "snow" in his/her language. It's "nieve". Take out the consonant N and there you have the sound: IEVE. Even a Jew like Stan Tenan recognizes that H was E and the Y was I:

[link to www.meru.org]
[link to www.meru.org]

When they set the Paleo-Hebrew Phoenician language it's a huge mistake saying the letter that is exactly like our "E" was a false "heh" and the H was "heth", hence 2 letters H!!!! That was not the case, that letter E was exactly like ours but inverted like reflection on a mirror and a little tail so to speak. Yet, there's a problem with English because it's half French since Hasting battle centuries ago when Normands who spoke French were the warlords and English Anglo Saxon were servants. That's why you have 2 sounds for the "I" and 2 for the "E". At subconscious level everytime you think in "E" you immediately think in words like "meat-mean-seat-leap" you know why? Because the name of that letter sounds like EE!!!! Look that ridiculous thing like the word "even". Even has 2 different sounds for the same letter "E" as if it were "EE-VEN". But you never think in words like "set-let-net-wet-fed". The same happens with "I", since that letter's name is AY you think in words like "fire-file-wine-swine" but not in words like "sin-interesting-tin".
That's why for you the different sound in words like "thOUGH a cOUGH thOUGH & hiccOUGH plOUGH me thrOUGH" is a conundrun.
As you can see I'M FORCED TO WRITE A NON-EXISTING "H" when I write the translation of God's name IEVE. That happens only in English and I do that because I don't want you to confuse the sound of the "E" (as in set-let-wet-wear-west) with the "E" (as in seat-lead-weep-east). How can I make a difference? The only way I have is using the H in English. Now you are in position to understand the problems faced by translators in the past who were mainly Anglo Saxon Protestants using "Jehovah" and things like that while Catholics from Spain and Portugal with sefardit accent used Yahveh WITH A MUTE "H".

What happens when you make the sound TOGETHER of the "I" plus the "E" in English (E as in set-let-wet). Repeat it many times and what happens? It switches into something like saying Yeh or Jeh!!!!!!!!! Jester-yesterday-year-yellow-joke-yoke. Quite similar but not exactly the same. That's why I am saying to you it's better to spell EE-EH-VEH otherwise it’s gonna sound like Jeh-veh or Yeh-veh and I am adding a non-existing H.

Now, what you never think is that "J" as wrongly used by Indiana Jones sounds like H in Spanish!!! When you say "Jehovah" in Spanish it sounds like writing He-o-vah in English!!! In Portuguese the same written "Jehovah" sounds like Ye-ováh transliterated into English. You don't ever think the V in German language sounds like W neither think your "H" souns like J in Spanish, like R in Brazilian Portuguese, like X in Greek and Russian, a complete chaotic Babel.

Once I wrote on a paper the real God's name IEVE and gave it to 5 native English speakers, none of them agree with each other in the sound because unless you know other languages you're and will remain ignorant.
So let it be written, so let it be done!

One of the symbols set here is like a circle with a cross, like Eden's 4 rivers....

God's name is not "I am" that would be "ani hu" in Hebrew but that was not Moses' revelation in Exodus 3:14. It was the wrong translation "eyeh asher eyeh" that in English sounds like I-Jeh or better AH-EH-EE-EH. That's the meaning of IEVE and means "I will be" (something regarding His people) rather tah being someone that obviously He already Is.

Now go and read Isaiah 19:18, 19 and you will know God's name was part of a vow in that particular alphabet and in the middle and frontier of Egypt which was Gizah and Great Pyramid.

Spielberg probably also knows in Genesis in the Bible, Enoc was Cain's son and he built a city called "CITY OF ENOCH". Did you know in Mexico the Aztec City called T-Enoch-Titlan meant just that????? Enoch was taken by God and his age was a calendar of 365 days transformed into years. That is part of a pyramid calendar in Mexico called Teotihuacan!

Please remember in Raiders of the Lost Ark we saw the actor Alfred Molina (playing the character Satipo) who also did Spiderman's enemy and he spoke something in Spanish. One of the carriers was wearing a "chullo" or Peruvian head cloth. This was Peruvian Amazon jungle and so was the goddess golden idol. I wonder if Spielberg did this on purpose. You know why? Because according to Book of Jubilees ancient scroll of Jews, Cain married his sister-wife called AWAN and that's the ancient name of Incas' Empire T-AWAN-tinsuyo which is much older than archeologists are ready to admit using C-14 to "date" history and ignore oral Incas traditions and Spanish chronicles. Cain was pronounced in Mesopotamia as saying KA-IN rather than Cane, When you repeat Ka-In many times it transforms into amn inverted homophonous IN-KA just like Eden's place Hevila (Opir's brother is related according to Genesis with the golden El Dorado Opir, an inverted homophonous of PIRO/PERU where incredible amount of gold was also found).

In the book of 1 Kings chapter 10 we read Solomon imported gold but in Valera version of the Bible as old as 1909 we read the place relating both Opir with Brazil. Opir the land of gold and Brazil the land of the wood.

BRZL in Hebrew is “iron” and Brazil is the land known by iron throughout history. Brass is related to the name. In Brazil they say a LIE. We’re told the name came due to the wood of a tree called “pau brasil”. I know it’s false because we have cartographic evidence (maps) depicting part of Brazil written with “Ç” or “Z” OR “s” 200 or 300 years BEFORE the allegedly “founder” the Portuguese Alvares Cabral. The fact is the name of the tree couldn’t be called “brasil” by the native original Tupi Guarani Indians of “Brazil” because in their language the name of the tree was IBIRAPITANGA. Bersil was the Portuguese word for “EMBER” as used to work with metals… like iron. The association with the name came because the Portuguese conquerors taught the Tupi Guarani inhabitants to cut the trees of Ibirapitanga with axes made of iron rather than stone as they did B4 and therefore they chop off the trees faster than ever importing to Europe.

But the BRZL name was known centuries before just like Opir/Piro was the land which produced much more gold than Brazil’s Eldorado and California together in Peru. Irish fray went to Brazil at least 1000 years prior to Cabral “founder” and the place was Hy Bersil, etc. I ignore of HY is the short form of isle or island since they didn’t know the whole country. Or if it’s related to the so-called land of happiness.

Any pyramid will remind us the Babel Tower which is BABILU, a stargate or better "door of gods". So, the city of gods (which maybe the title of the film) could be any place where men were transformed into gods, places with pyramids. Not like Sitchin's books or Stargate film in the sense of spaceships in the shape of pyramids but pyramids of stone built in the electromagnetic "bellybuttons" of the planet.

Just want to remind you RAIDERS OF THE LOST ARK WAS ABOUT SNAKES from the very start in Peruvian Amazon EDEN Eldorado and the ones used in the very place where the ark was, right?
Now, do you know why AMERICA uses that name? Not from the famous navigator Americo Vespucio but maybe in reference to a WINGED-SNAKE PERUVIAN GOD called AMARUCA which makes us think about USA Marine secret RITUALS DONE ON ANCIENT BABYLON or modern Iraq which is one of the reasons for this war, ESOTERIC POWER TO WORSHIP GOD OF MARS, SATAN OR ahRiMAn as seen from Russian satellites:
[link to www.whatdoesitmean.com]

Yap, seraphim/dragon spits fire (photon) in aquatic medium. And yet, Satan himself disguises into light. Apostle Paul also uses Greek word "phosphorus" (light carrier) and "metaschimatizo" meaning metamorphosis. So the secrets of light or holographic universe. For hyperdimensional beings, the communication with our holographic mind is piece of cake. The very word "drugstore" comes from Greek "pharmakya" (pharmacy) and in the Bible was used altogether with SPIRITISM. In medicine the physicians have to make their vow to AESCULAPEUS snake.

Snake in Hebrew also means the one who knows the secret of copper (not electromagnetic). Isn't it true John 3 mentions Christ compares himself with Moses' copper snake. Not bronze, that word bronze was used in 18th century and it's just an alloy using copper.

And the interdimensional gods interact with them and asked them BLOOD=SOUL (nephesh in Hebrew)as exchange for knowledge. Then abandoned them and became APOCALYPTO:
[link to fotolog.terra.com]

All those magaliths and stargates or pyramids were purposely built in electromagnetic navels of the world, in certain Tropic (I think Cancer)and latitudes, separated in determined angles from each other to literally FILL THE EARTH WITH VIOLENCE, that's why blood calls blood and wars are done in the same battlefields, that's why Poltergeist phenomena happen in houses where blood was poured onto the ground, suicide or murder.
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Well, that doesn't sound at all crazy.
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I noticed that the ark of the covenant design in the IJ movie is eactly the same as used in the wikileaks "time to open the archives" image.
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Did you really take the trouble to compile all that Crap OP? Oh Dear OH DEAR!
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It's better than giving opinion about "Could America become the worlds newest superpower?" Mr. "beloved" by yourself.
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It's a pity you didn't even invest time in checking all images and youtube.
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It's a pity you didn't even invest time in checking all images and youtube.
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I looked! I did!

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It's better than giving opinion about "Could America become the worlds newest superpower?" Mr. "beloved" by yourself.
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Really? chuckle
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Pretty fascinating stuff, OP, there are so many hidden agendas in those movies and it takes skill and insight to tease them out of the storyline.
Keep up the good work, I think you are on the right track.
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Yes, but you won't find it in places written by people who think they don't write crap... like this one:
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Yes, but you won't find it in places written by people who think they don't write crap... like this one:
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That Um Good Thread. Many wise posts....


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Did you really take the trouble to compile all that Crap OP? Oh Dear OH DEAR!
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my sentiments exactly, OP? does your head hurt? it should, a cup of tea, a bex, and a good lay down, there, better?
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You remember in Raiders of the Lost Ark we saw the man and Indiana Jones covered with spiders, right?
How many Spiderman have we seen so far or Lord of the Rings 3 with that GIANT spider?
I mentioned Lord of Sipan which is Peruvian Moche/Mochica civilization. They had their SPIDERMAN with 8 legs and 2 appendix like antenna but only insects do have antennas while they have only 6 legs. The way these people mummified reminds us the silk of the spiderweb wrapping the eggs. The Incas mummified their dead kneeling inside layers of weaving. Lord of Sipan had spheres of spider eggs. And of course we have to think if MUMMY film sequel will be filmed in Peru or Mexico considering the link with Egypt and China.
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While the Mr. Who from Australia does have "sentiments" let the rest read more:
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Does it remind you a golden face?
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I'm not reading all of that.
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Other than the bad acting?
"Of all tyrannies, a tyranny exercised for the good of its own victims may be the most oppressive. It may be better to live under robber barons than omnipotent moral busy-bodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end, for they do so with the approval of their own conscience." -- C.S. Lewis
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I know, I understand many "posters" are too damn lazy to read (imagine if you ask them to read books!). You're welcome to withdraw.
Meanwhile:
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Based on the film and Indiana Jones comic books, the idol belonged to the Chachapoyan tribe in Peru, South America. It was sought in 1936, in the Peruvian Amazon jungle. They changed the name to “Hovitos”.
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Chachapoyas is known as Machu Picchu of the north:
[link to www.exploreperu.nl]
It's no surprise Spielberg & Lucas connected Paititi/Akakor with Nazca spider (living in Amazon jungle with Brazilian border) with Cuzco. They insist too much, don't you think?
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veryt good read...as a Seminary grad and bible student many of your findings ring true with my own studies.

5 stars
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As you can see the Chachapoyas culture is related to Amazon river:
[link to adventures.worldnomads.com]
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[link to phoenicia.org]
[link to michellepassos.blogspot.com]

" BADEZIR OF THE PHOENICIAN TYRE. THE FIRST SON OF JETHBAAL "

Jethbaal ruled Tyre from 887 to 856 BC.

In 1872, on the coast of Brazil near Paraiba, Joaquim Alves da Costa found on his property a stone that bore numerous characters which no one understood. He copied them and sent them to the President of the Instituto Historico. A translation is as follows:

We are Sidonian Canaanites from the city of the Merchant King. We were cast up on this distant island, a land of mountains. We sacrificed a youth to the celestial gods and goddesses in the nineteenth year of our mighty King Hiram and embarked from Ezion-geber into the Red Sea. We voyaged with ten ships and were at sea together for two years around Africa. Then we were separated by the hand of Baal and were no longer with our companions. So we have come here, twelve men and three women, into "Island of Iron". Am I, the Admiral, a man who would flee? Nay! May the celestial gods and goddesses favor us well.

This eight-line inscription could well be in Phoenician characters. There are reasons to believe that the king referred to was Hiram III (553-533 BC). Brazil was known, anciently, as Hy Brasil. The incorporation of ‘I’ or ‘Hy’ is typically Phoenician. According to Cyrus Gordon, Head of the Department of Mediterranean studies at Brandeis University, Massachusetts, the Phoenicians certainly knew Brazil, which they called "Island of Iron". Hy Brasil means "Island of Iron". Iron is still the country’s main resource.

Cyrus Gordon believed the king mentioned in the script can be identified as Hiram III who reigned 553-533 B.C. The inscription seems to verify an unusual statement found in the Old Testament. An ancient Biblical chronicler wrote:
"And king Solomon made a navy of ships in Ezion-geber, which is beside Eloth, on the shore of the Red sea, in the land of Edom. And Hiram sent in the navy his servants, shipmen that had knowledge of the sea, with the servants of Solomon. And they came to Ophir (Piro, Peru), and fetched from thence gold, four hundred and twenty talents, and brought it to king Solomon" (I Kings 9:26-28).

In the days of Solomon there was an alliance between Hiram, the king of Tyre and the Israelites under Solomon. They were not only allies, but very friendly toward one another (II Chronicles 2:2-12). Israelites and Phoenicians even worked together to build the Temple of God in Jerusalem (vs.13-18). This alliance included shipping together, although the Phoenicians were known to jealously guard the secrets of oceanic navigation from other nations. We read in II Chronicles 8, beginning verse 8:
"Then went Solomon to Ezion-geber, and to Eloth, at the sea side in the land of Edom. And Huram sent him by the hands of his servants ships, and servants that had knowledge of the sea; and they went with the servants of Solomon to Ophir, and took thence four hundred and fifty talents of gold, and brought them to king Solomon" (v.17-18).
In the heyday of Solomon silver was "not any thing accounted of" (11 Chron. 9:20). We read, "And the king made silver in Jerusalem as stones, and cedar trees made he as the sycomore trees that are in the low plains in abundance" (v. 27). Solomon had his own personal fleets and dominated world trade. "And king Solomon passed all the kings of the earth in riches and wisdom" (v. 22).

This text mentioned Brazil in Bible versions a century ago.

There is archaeological evidence, in fact, that the fleets of Solomon and Hiram of Tyre circumnavigated the globe, sailing from Ezion-geber, a port at tne terminus of the Red Sea, near modern Aqaba or Eliat! Hebrew customs, discovered by the early English settlers in the Americas, were found among some of the Indian tribes, including the wearing of phylacteries!

Quipus ropes with knots worn by Incas were also used by Chinese people and do have a math code similar to Sumerian.

Euphrates river is a bad translation because in the language of Babylon was URUTU meaning river of copper which is not UNLESS Babylon river was the place receiving ships of reed coming from Peru/Bolivia as Jim Allen thinks and he's not an amateur.

Minoan and Phoenician coins have been found, and inscriptions of ancient Phoenician and Minoan scripts, in Tennessee, Alabama, Georgia, and the Star of David was even found in an ancient ruin of the Pueblo Indians in New Mexico! In the middle of the second millennium, B.C., and down to the time of Solomon, circa 1000 B.C., oceanic travel by maritime powers in the Middle East seems to have been fairly common.


In the book of Isaiah we read the enigmatic statement: "I will make a man more precious than fine gold; even a man than the golden wedge of Ophir" (Isa. 13:12). Where was the legendary "Ophir"? What was this "golden wedge"?
The Hebrew word for "wedge" is leshonah and refers to a "tongue," an instrument of some kind. The wedge of gold was, then, a bar or instrument of gold-literally, a "tongue of gold."

Indiana Jones holding an Egyptian golden disc staff with God's name?


What could this "tongue" of gold have been? The gold of Ophir was not a scarce commodity since Solomon received 44 tons of it in a single year. Ophir was a place famous for its gold. Could it be that Isaiah was referring to a particular instrument of gold -- something famous in Ophir?
The Inca Empire was famous for the quantity and quality of the gold it produced. The Incas of modern Peru have a tradition that their earliest king was Pirua Paccari Manco. In modern Quichua Pirua means a granary or storehouse. The first dynasty of kings, called the Pirua dynasty, included the first eighteen kings in the king list. One of the commonest titles of the early kings was Capac which means "Rich."

One of the first kings was Manco Capac who founded the city of Cuzco ("Navel" in the special language of the Incas). Manco Capac is generally regarded as the progenitor of the Incas. Legends of the Incas tell us that he got rid of his three brothers and led the people of Cuzco. We read, "He took with him a golden staff. When the soil was so fertile that its whole length sank into the rich mould, there was to be the final resting place" (Markham, The Incas of Peru, p. 50, 53).

Another story calls this golden staff a "sceptre of gold about a yard long and two fingers thick" (Markham, Royal Commentaries of the Yncas, p. 64). Could this have been the "golden wedge" or "tongue" of Ophir?

John Crow relates another tradition of the ancient Incas. It is the story of "the Golden Wedge, according to which the Sun, wearied of the crude, barbaric ways of the uncivilized Indians, sent two of his children, a son and a daughter, to lift them from their primitive life. Placed on the earth near the banks of Lake Titicaca, these two children of the Sun were given a golden wedge which they were to carry with them wherever they wandered; and on the spot where this wedge sank without effort into the ground and disappered they were told to found their mother city. When the divine pair reached the vicinity of Cuzco, their talisman slid into the earth and vanished from sight" (The Epic of Latin America, p. 25).

Was this mysterious talisman -- this "golden wedge" -- the same thing mentioned by the prophet Isaiah -- the "golden wedge of Ophir"?

There is a close resemblance between the Pirua dynasty and the Hebrew word Ophir. In Hebrew, Ophir ("ph" can be pronounced either as an "f" or a "p") was the name of a place rich in gold (I Kings 9:28); sometimes the term Ophir was used for gold (Job 22:24). Ancient Peru would certainly fit the Biblical description of Ophir. It was famous for its gold. In the Temple of the Sun in Cuzco was a fantastic display of wealth. The four inside walls were covered with paper-thin sheets of gold. A giant golden figure of the Sun hung suspended over the main altar. A huge silver room was dedicated to the Moon. Surrounding the Temple of the Sun and several chapels was a huge stone wall, covered with a cornice or crest of gold a yard wide. Inside the Temple were decorations of gold and silver flowers, plants and animals. The Spaniards sacked the Temple and seized all the gold and silver ornaments.

From 1492 to 1600 about 2 billion pesos' worth of gold and silver flowed out of Spain's New World colonies -- at least three times the entire European supply of these precious metals up to that time. The total production of gold and silver in the Spanish colonies between 1492 and 1800 has been estimated at 6 billion dollars.

Historian Fernando Montesinos visited Peru from 1629-1642, a century after the conquest by the Spaniards. He travelled fifteen years through the country collecting material for a history of Peru. Montesinos wrote Ophir de Espana, Memorias Historiales y Politicas del Peru. He believed Peru was the Ophir of Solomon. He contended that Peru was first settled by Ophir, the grandson of Noah (Gen. 10:29).

Montesinos has been ridiculed and derided by historians. But since the early settlers of Peru were white-skinned and red bearded; since there was abundant gold in the region; since the name of the Pirua dynasty may correspond to the Hebrew Ophir; since the voyages of Solomon's fleet took about three years to complete; and since the "golden wedge" of Ophir could very well correspond to the "golden wedge" of Manco Capac; and since there is so much overwhelming evidence of cultural contacts betweens the ancient Peruvians and the Israelites, with close affinities in cosmology; and since there is definite evidence of the presence of ancient Semitic peoples in Peru, Equador, and the Western Hemisphere -- it seems very likely that Montesinos was right! Indeed, there is strong reason to believe that Peru was the ancient Ophir of the Bible!

What do Indiana Jones suggest to his students in number 4 saga? To study WHAT?

The Ugha Mongulala tribe of north-west Brazil preserve written records of an ancient city called Ofir (Ophir) which once stood at the mouth of the Amazon River.
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I'm not reading all of that.
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Of course not. You came as 90% of the "readers" and "posters" to have fun jum-ping paragraphs and have fun. I understand.

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I'm not reading all of that.
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THIS^^^^^^^^
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Of course not. You came as 90% of the "readers" and "posters" to have fun jum-ping paragraphs and have fun. I understand.

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I haven't read it all either, BUT I intend to... I just watched one of the movies recently and I thought, 'There is more truth to this than most people realize!'

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